YTSEJAM Digest 905
Today's Topics:
1) Ages?
by "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
2) RE: The Drummer IS Most Important
by tempus88@nbnet.nb.ca (Vince French)
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 904
by James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
4) Dub site CLOSING
by Anthony <AKOZAR@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU>
5) Re: JP's acoustic guitar
by euan@waikato.ac.nz
6) poly-rhythms
by GVBunker@aol.com
7) DT World Premiere on Radio!!
by Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
8) B**ts in Milwaukee
by jkruger@ee.net (Joe Kruger)
9) .
by Trucci@aol.com
10) Re: Ages? etc...
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
11) A suggestion
by "Ken H ili" <KEN@benoni.nbr.no>
12) Re: Ages?
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
13) a couple questions
by mjnewb@ix.netcom.com (Monty Newberry )
14) DT fans in Philly going to Providence?
by ETBW44C@prodigy.com (MR DEREK J BOBER)
15) Re: Ages?
by Ibanez7@aol.com
16) Moshing in NY
by FilDBaskt@aol.com
17) Polly-Rythm?
by FilDBaskt@aol.com
18) WJ&TU?
by nguyen john t <jtnguyen@cs.twsu.edu>
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 13:02:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam )
Subject: Ages?
Message-ID: <199507271702.NAA15207@grex.cyberspace.org>
I was just wondering the ages of Ytsejammerz? I'm 23. Your turn.
-John
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 22:33:57 -0300
From: tempus88@nbnet.nb.ca (Vince French)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: RE: The Drummer IS Most Important
Message-ID: <9507280133.AA18714@darwin.nbnet.nb.ca>
<<...a poor bassist in a prog band wouldn't really make much difference...>>??
Are you crazy?? No offence to you, but who do you think Geddy Lee is? He
is definitely not expendable. He's an incredible bassist. John Myung is
also an incredible bassist. He is somewhat a little less audible than the
rest at some times, but at other times, he's at the forefront, and he's a
damned good bassist. To me, DT is the prototype Prog Band, where every
member is incredibly talented and shows it, in a very great manner. No one
member is trying to show off...which may be the case for other bands that
depend on their guitarist. They all work and write monstrous tunes
together...and that's the key word...together. No one is more important
than the other...and that's why DT is a "perfect" progressive band.
Vince
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 16:46:11 -0400
From: James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 904
Message-ID: <Pine.DYN.3.91.950727164353.3717A-100000@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
When will DT play in the Southeast???
I'm still waiting.... It sucks that I did not see DT and FW together....
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
:)
Jay Peele
For info on INFERNO, e-mail: jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 16:57:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Anthony <AKOZAR@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU>
To: DT:;@donews.uucp
Subject: Dub site CLOSING
Message-ID: <01HTDEK59M1E007X17@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU>
Hi yjammers!
just a note to let you know that my Kevin Moore dub site will be closing for
now ... if you have my name and email address on a web page or something listed
as a dubbing site , please remove it...
thanks a lot!
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Anthony Kozar "The Divine Spirit found a sublime outlet in
Univ. of Toledo that wonder of analysis, that portent of the
1042 Acad. Ctr. ideal world, that amphibian between being
akozar@UofT02.utoledo.edu and not-being, which we call the imaginary
http://www.utoledo.edu/~akozar/ root of negative unity." -- Leibniz
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 09:31:15 +1200
From: euan@waikato.ac.nz
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: JP's acoustic guitar
Message-ID: <v01510104ac3db5db3e80@[130.217.176.35]>
>>Does Petrucci use his classical guitar on any other songs except
>>"learning to live"?
>> ...Brandon
>John plays his acoustic guitar (the nice orange one) at "Silent Man",
>"Another Day" (where he doubles kevin's piano line).
As well as doubling his electric on the PMU intro...
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Date: Wed, 26 Jul 1995 22:54:27 -0400
From: GVBunker@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: poly-rhythms
Message-ID: <950726225425_123857732@aol.com>
This is to the guy who asked about poly-rhythms in the 902 Ytsejam.
First of all, poly-rhythms are a term to describe when drummers play a part
that
had two or more rhythmic elements overlapping and played at the same time.
A crude way to imagine this is to picture a drummer playing triplets on the
ride
cymbal with his right hand, and then playing 16th notes on the bass drums
with
both feet. It'd sound strange, and I've never atually heard such a pattern
that I
can think of, but it goes back to the idea of Limb Independence.
Songs Neal Peart explores this idea with are Bravado(the outro), and Scars.
That's
all I can think of at the moment, but others may wish to contribute
(PLEEZE!!!)
Also, you mentioned that Neal Peart "invented" the Poly-Rhythm idea. This is
actually
an idea that originates in African styles of drumming. And although it's
impossible to credit the first North American drummer to incorporate these
ideas, generally
Max Roach (a hard bop drummer) and Tony Williams (Miles Davis' drummer in the
late 60's) were known for their ability to cleanly play difficult
polyrhythmic
passages.
I know that HAIRBALL is going to read this a flip out, so I can rest assured
that
anything that is incorrect will be corrected.
Hope this sort of helps
Spudders
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 19:08:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
To: DT List <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: DT World Premiere on Radio!!
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9507271917.B119041-0100000@acs4.bu.edu>
Hey y'all! I just read from the usenet that WRCN 94.3/103.9 (I think
it's a Long Island Radio Station) will be playing a DT world Premiere
around 8:00 on Friday, July 18th (on your way to the Hampton Bays show).
Someone PLEASE CHECK THIS OUT!! Who knows? It could be true and we'll
have a studio version of ACoS a few months before it comes out!!
Thanks! Talk to y'all later!
Brian
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 21:12:28 -0400
From: jkruger@ee.net (Joe Kruger)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: B**ts in Milwaukee
Message-ID: <199507280112.VAA05386@enet.colmicrosys.com>
I'm traveling to Milwaukee, Wisconsin in a couple of weeks and was wondering
if anyone on the list knew of any stores in the area that stock "rare live
import
recordings", especially DT.
Please respond by E-mail if you are as paranoid as the people on
alt.music.bootlegs. They think that every query such as this is a covert
investigation.
Thanks.
Joe
Joe Kruger
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 23:12:39 -0400
From: Trucci@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: .
Message-ID: <950727230838_124700363@aol.com>
Subscribe
Kyle Kruszewski
Ytsejam
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 95 20:32:23 PDT
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Ages? etc...
Message-ID: <9507280332.AA05877@tengs1.teng>
>
> I was just wondering the ages of Ytsejammerz? I'm 23. Your turn.
>
How about having everyone (who's interested) send their
ages *to you*, and then you can post a summary to the list,
rather than flooding the list with all these demographics?
I know traffic is light, but I'm sure September will see
things pick up.
Zach - 23 !>)>
p.s. if anyone in the South Bay wants a copy of _Mind Control_,
I saw the remaining copy (I got the other one last week) was
still at the Compact Disc Warehouse in Sunnyvale.
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 09:09:08 GMT+0100
From: "Ken H ili" <KEN@benoni.nbr.no>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: A suggestion
Message-ID: <MAILQUEUE-101.950728090908.256@benoni.nbr.no>
Let's cancel August so we won't have to wait so long for the ACOS EP.
Ken the Slave
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 01:08:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: Ages?
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9507280131.A29587-0100000@freenet2.scri.fsu.edu>
20 going on 21 in December!!! Who'S Next????? :)
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According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats:
If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) (i.e.
A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major would have
4 sharps.
StatisticZ show that if a person is born with Perfect Pitch, chances are
they will grow up to be a famous...Baseball Player!!! :)
"Just Lighten up and listen to the Music" -Kevin Moore (inside joke)
Eric Moegling: afn22909@freenet.ufl.edu
emoeglin@mail.coin.missouri.edu
fOr MoRE nFo AboUT mE fIngEr: emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu
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On Thu, 27 Jul 1995, John R. Kotzian wrote:
> I was just wondering the ages of Ytsejammerz? I'm 23. Your turn.
>
>
> -John
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 23:33:36 -0700
From: mjnewb@ix.netcom.com (Monty Newberry )
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: a couple questions
Message-ID: <199507280633.XAA13518@ix8.ix.netcom.com>
I have a couple questions:
1. What do the Ytsejam T-Shirts look like?
2. How can I get one?
3. Does anyone have a copy of the Ronnie Scotts gig they would be
willing to copy for me?
Thanks a bunch. God bless.
Dale R. Newberry
"He who eats crackers in the bed of reality gets scratchy."
-The Tick
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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 1995 22:54:27 EDT
From: ETBW44C@prodigy.com (MR DEREK J BOBER)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT fans in Philly going to Providence?
Message-ID: <013.09180683.ETBW44C@prodigy.com>
I was wondering if there are any Dream Theater fans in the
Philadelphia area who are going to Providence to see their August 3rd
show. I wanted to go with another person or two to the show. If you
want to go please contact me at "etbw44c@mail.prodigy.com"
See ya later,
Derek
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 09:33:12 -0400
From: Ibanez7@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Ages?
Message-ID: <950728093245_42695253@aol.com>
I am 16.
Jon Dery (Ibanez7)
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:34:44 -0400
From: FilDBaskt@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Moshing in NY
Message-ID: <950728143440_125152575@aol.com>
The experience that the person living in Austrailia described is a good
moshing experience. While I still feel moshing is moronic, at least when the
people moshing care about each others well-being it is slightly less moronic.
But unforunatley any concerts I have gone to that involved moshing were
violent. Moshing is violence. Music should NOT inspire violence. I am not
by any means a pascifist, but music has and never will inspire anger and
viilence within. I believe that anyone who feels the need to mosh in order
to hurt someone(this is anyone that moshes, except those that are just doing
it cause everyone else is and they feel like bouncing around at a concert) is
an idiot. I don't care if I have offended anyone on the 'jam with that
statement because I know that I am right and I really don't care what anyone
has to say in defense. Moshing=Unnecessary Violence.
Phil
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:31:16 -0400
From: FilDBaskt@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Polly-Rythm?
Message-ID: <950728143115_125152621@aol.com>
Was that a joke? MP does not play Polly-rythms, he plays polyrythms which
were not invented by a guy named Polly. I can't remember the name of the guy
who actually made them into a technique, but I believe he was an instructor
and not in a band. A Polyrythm is like a two part rythm. In drumming it
would be something like this: The snare drum would go
1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3, etc.... and while that was happening the cymbal
might be played 1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4, etc.... all in the same amount of
time that the snare was doing the 1-2-3. A Polyrythm can be played on a band
level as well with the drummer playing at a different rythm than the rest of
the band. I believe that the beginning of the Mirror involves polyrythms.
Also at the end of TTT, as the song is fading out you can hear MP change the
feel of the music while the band keeps playing the same thing. This too I
believe is polyrythmical. If someone who knows more about them than I do can
back me up or correct me it would be appreciated.
Phil
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Date: Fri, 28 Jul 1995 14:21:45 -0500 (CDT)
From: nguyen john t <jtnguyen@cs.twsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: WJ&TU?
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950728141405.11459A-100000@emcity>
Hello to y'all (I'm a Kansan!). Anyway, special hellos to Mike Bahr (who
posts the MOST interesting info to the 'ole JAM!). I'd just like to add
my $.02 about the new title Mike put on his WHEN DREAM & JAMES UNITE
project: "When Dream and Today Unite". Well, I like the title, but not
after I had already gotten used to the old one. Mike, if this was the
origional title, I would've LOVED it, but the old one seems to fit more.
Still, who am I to argue with the heart and soul of the YTSEJAM!!!???
One more thing, will you be putting YTSEJAM on it? No one's really
ever mentioned doing that and I don't think you have either. Just curious.
Of course, it would seem illogical NOT to put it on there, so I don't
even know why or what I'm asking. I must be too tires (baby kept me up a
while last night!).
a status seeker,
John Nguyen
a.k.a. NUPRIN
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