YTSEJAM Digest 845
Today's Topics:
1) Subconcious---HELP!---
by tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
2) Dt
by FWard92136@aol.com
3) ~ytsecon~subcon~mike's new prjcts
by jjens@osf1.gmu.edu (John Jens, Jr.)
4) DT Germany Tour dates
by goebel@inf.fu-berlin.de (Ties Goebel)
5) Free DT CD's
by lists@flatearth.xs4all.nl (Ruud van de Kruisweg)
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 844
by omman@solar.sky.net
7) Re: Ytsecon stick in the mud
by jforte@acl.nyit.edu (Jeff Forte)
8) DT UNPLUGGED!!
by nguyen john t <jtnguyen@cs.twsu.edu>
9) Selling this drama
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
10) Re: Timothy Adams and his flames
by "Mr. Senior-itis" <gchew@liii.com>
11) Re: 844 -- that stick in the mud
by "Mr. Senior-itis" <gchew@liii.com>
12) boots trading
by Wilco Barg <WBG@suppcent.ges.getronics.nl>
13) More Sub CDs available!
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
14) Unplugged....Please....
by kylania@mail.top.net
15) SUBCONSCIOUS
by sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
16) DT Fanclub and I & W fanzine
by WarrenDW@aol.com
17) German dates
by wagner@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de
18) DT Unplugged! (Ytsejam 844)
by jburks@pcs.MV.COM (Jamie Burks)
19)
by Look! Some mail from Andy! Cool! <andrew.moore@unn.ac.uk>
20) Re: #2(2) YTSEJAM digest 844
by HuntNKill@aol.com
21) Unplugged!
by John Mastin <jmastin@motown.ge.com>
22) Re: DT unplugged
by curth@execpc.com
23) ACoS
by mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu (Michael Burstin)
24) New Kansas
by sjensen@research.westlaw.com (Scott Jensen)
25) FREE DT CD'S...CORRECTION
by TIM LODGE -SGA/MACLAB POLITICAL SCIENCE '95 <LODGE_TIM@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>
26) Old Promo Signs
by JennieBear@aol.com
27) Drummers...
by JennieBear@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 17:58:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Subconcious---HELP!---
Message-ID: <9506072158.AA24938@junix.ju.edu>
Can anyone in or near the North Florida area please let me know if they
would be willing to dub a copy of the DT Subconcious CD for me. I was
unaware of this CD until they were all sold. Please help a fellow DT
fan/freak.
Trey Allen
tallen@junix.ju.edu
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 19:26:09 -0400
From: FWard92136@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Dt
Message-ID: <950607192606_88996516@aol.com>
Sounds like the convention was great!! I wish I did not live so far away
(North Carolina) !!! Please, if someone finds out if they are heading near
this area, please let me know. I really must see them live sometime.
I aggre with the message about the 'child' who decided to record ACOS at the
convention, hopefully DT will overlook something like this, it only takes
one jerk to ruin things for everyone else!
Fman
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 23:20:14 -0400
From: jjens@osf1.gmu.edu (John Jens, Jr.)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ~ytsecon~subcon~mike's new prjcts
Message-ID: <9506080320.AA31440@osf1.gmu.edu>
hey again 'Jammerz!
a few werdz for u (too much time on irc ;)
YTSECON: all you ppl that went: YOU SUCK! I HATE YOU!
ahhh, i feel much better now :) and onto better things...
SUBCONSCIOUS: crappy day at work; came home and there is was: an indiscript
brown mailer sitting on my place-mat. i dint even have to glance at the
mailing label to tell it was Subconscious #397. FUK YEAH, Mike! this is
awesome! this is my first boot-type-thingy and it's pretty good quality.
still on the very first listen. will give full account in later post.
MIKE'S NEW VID PROJECT: sounds kool. too bad i'm too poor to own 2 let alone
1 hifi vcr - damn skool :7
MIKE'S NEW CD PROJECT (DT Unplugged): sounds tr3s kool. i agree w/ the dood
(sorry, deleted yer post too fast) who sed do the unplugged first since it's
complete then WDAJU. i want both tho :)
AFN,
-john
ps. tis a joke about hating the ytseconners. u know i luv u all :)
[23 daze 'til Yanni] [26 daze 'til Queensryche] [50 daze 'til +Live+]
john c. jens, jr. jjens@gmu.edu http://www.site.gmu.edu/~jjens/
'anger is a constructive emotion, hate is not' -MJK
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 95 11:41 MET DST
From: goebel@inf.fu-berlin.de (Ties Goebel)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT Germany Tour dates
Message-ID: <m0sJe5v-0002tXC@inf.fu-berlin.de>
New information about DT in Germany:
DT will play four headliner shows in Germany (Saarbruecken, Kassel,
Lichtenfels, Donaueschingen) and will also play on three or four Rock Over
Germany festivals as well as on a festival in Switzerland.
I don`t have the exact dates with me right now, but I`ll probably post
them tomorrow.
Ties
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Date: Thu, 08 Jun 1995 02:46:00 +0100
From: lists@flatearth.xs4all.nl (Ruud van de Kruisweg)
To: LODGE_TIM@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU
Subject: Free DT CD's
Message-ID: <060895024659Rnf0.79b6@flatearth.xs4all.nl>
>From: TIM LODGE -SGA/MACLAB POLITICAL SCIENCE '95 <LODGE_TIM@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>
>To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
>Subject: FREE DREAM THEATER CD'S
>Message-ID: <950606224152.20423aa8@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>
>
>Anyone interested in FREE Dream
>Theater CD's, please email me.
>I'm speaking in direct reference
>to the Instrumental, Instrumental II,
>Rising Power, and Majesty Demos,a
>and perhaps some others....
>
>Email for the details. no this is not
>a scam..Just some "sales" positions.
>
>:)
Yes, I'm interested. What's the deal?
Ruud
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 21:23:36 -0500
From: omman@solar.sky.net
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 844
Message-ID: <199506080223.VAA12250@sky.net>
This is to you Mike!
DREAM THEATER UNPLUGGED!!!!! (b4 WDAJU)
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 22:09:13 -0400
From: jforte@acl.nyit.edu (Jeff Forte)
To: Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Ytsecon stick in the mud
Message-ID: <95060722091385@acl.nyit.edu>
>I thought it was really wonderful that DT respected us enough as
>*fans* and *adults* to give us a chance to hear the new studio version
>of A Change of Seasons. This was someting quite special; when you
>share a new piece of music with someone, you are sharing part of your
>SELF with them. They didn't have to do it; they wanted to out of the
>goodness of their hearts.
>Then someone decided to destroy this special moment by using a
>hand-held tape recorder to steal this moment for themselves.
>Let me ask you something. Did you even THINK to ask any of the DT
>guys if this would be ok with them? Why not? You obviously KNEW what
>you were doing was incredibly sleazy and wrong because you were hiding
>your tape recorder like the little thief you are. Why did you feel
>the need to do this? Are you so pathetic that you need to do
>something like this to make you feel better or more privileged than
>others who will of course come begging you for copies? This is NOT
>the same as taping a show to trade, and you damn well know it.
>It's things like this that make me feel ashamed to be a music fan.
>That there are those who forget what it means to be a human being, and
>let nothing get in their way of doing whatever it takes to make them
>feel like they are "cooler" than other fans. How dare you consider
>yourself a true fan; using them to boost your own self-esteem. I hope
>someday you'll grow up and realize what a shitty thing you did.
I agree that with the overall idea that it was a shitty thing to do, I
think you are "reading" a little too deep into this. Saying that they did this
to boost their self-esteems. MAybe the person just wants to have a copy of the
song because they are a big fan (this doesnt change the fact that it
wasnt right). This is not a flame...just a difference of
opinion.
While it is not the same as bootlegging a show to trade...what about
the people who bootleg perfomances to sell them and make money off of them.
Thats about the same thing, using the band to boost financial value instead of
boosting "self-esteem. Im not saying i disagree with this, because i like
many other people on the list own bootlegged shows and discs of that nature.
Many people say that it takes money out of the pocket of the artist, this is
not true because with the price of bootlegs, anyone who buys them is usually
a big fan of the band and will buy their new records anyway.
________________________________________________________________________________
Jeff Forte jforte@acl.nyit.edu
"I wanted to find An Innocent Mind, but only found myself waiting"
--Kevin Moore
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 22:06:43 -0500 (CDT)
From: nguyen john t <jtnguyen@cs.twsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT UNPLUGGED!!
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950607220040.26174C-100000@emcity>
Hello to all jammers!
This goes to MIKE BAHR. Hey Mike, it's John from Wichita, Kansas. My
vote for the recent DT UNPLUGGED vs WD&JU goes to UNPLUGGED> I don't
know, the way I see it, we have all heard the songs off of WD&DU. It's
great that we'll be able to hear James do them (I've never been a Charlie
fan, sorry). But I think a higher interest lies in hearing *totally*
different versions of some DT songs (ie- UNPLUGGED versions!). Besides,
have you gotten a hold of enough material to tackle WD&JU yet? So
here's my vote: UNPLUGGED! GO for it Mike! You know we're ALL behind ya!!
PS - those vidoes sound like they're to die for too! Go for it!
somebody pull me together... - FnM
JOHN
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 20:32:08 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Selling this drama
Message-ID: <199506080332.UAA24187@bud.indirect.com>
Hi all!
Well, time to sell a few more of my rock collectibles, since I've
listened to them quite enough, and I need some more money to put into the
production of the Cygnus and DT Unplugged discs.
All of the following are in excellent condition and guaranteed to
be skip-free, or I'll refund 'em. (In other words, they won't skip.)
RUSH CD BOOTLEGS, your pick, $20 plus shipping ($1 USA, $2 Canada, $4 other)
"Fly In The Night" Montreal, PQ 12/1/77, audience recording, stereo
Tracklisting:
Xanadu
A Farewell to Kings
Closer to the Heart
Something For Nothing
Cygnus X-1
1. The Voyage
Working Man
Fly By Night
In The Mood
Drum Solo
Cinderella Man
"A Right to Passage" Denn Hagg Stadium, Geleen, Holland "Pinkpop Festival"
6/4/79, original master radio tape (CRYSTAL clear, stereo, A+)
Tracklisting:
A Passage to Bangkok
Xanadu
The Trees
Hemispheres
1. The Sphere
Closer to the Heart
La Villa Strangiato
2112
1. Presentation
2. Soliloquy
3. Grand Finale
In The Mood
Drum Solo
Something for Nothing
"Spirit of St. Louis" Kail Auditorium, St. Louis, MO, 2/14/80, FM master (A)
Tracklisting:
2112
1. Overture
2. Temples
3. Discovery
4. Presentation
5. Soliloquy
6. Grand Finale
Spirit of Radio
Natural Science
1. Tidepools
2. Hyperspace
3. Permanent Waves
Beneath, Between & Behind
Medley
1. By-Tor & the Snow Dog
2. Xanadu (all)
Medley
1. Working Man
2. Finding My Way
3. Anthem
4. Bastille Day
5. In The Mood
6. Drum Solo
La Villa Strangiato
Doubtless you all know my address by heart by now, but I will sell
these to the first to e-mail a response to any of 'em. You can buy only one,
two of the three, or all of them if you like. Just let me know and I'll echo
the address back to you.
-Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 01:23:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Mr. Senior-itis" <gchew@liii.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Timothy Adams and his flames
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950608011624.21450B-100000@rowan.liii.com>
Yes, I do give a big hand to Babs for all of the organization of the
convention. . .Nevertheless, Jeff was the one who gave the convention a
LOT of flare, getting Management to listen to Babs and also getting
3/5ths of the band. We wouldn't have those nifty posters, our first listen
to ACoS, etc. It seemed to me that Jeff received no recognition (except
for "Jeff Chew and his Rolodex" in small print) from ANYONE else, and I
believe that Jeff should've gotten more recognition, possibly as much
recognition as Babs.
Flame not intended, just speaking my mind.
Greg :)
BTW, Mike Portnoy and the others didn't even know Babs until the convention.
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[1;29m Gregory Chew -- "Catching every drop of hope in my empty cup..."
Gchew@liii.com :):):):):):):) -- Lea Salonga [0m
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 01:38:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Mr. Senior-itis" <gchew@liii.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: 844 -- that stick in the mud
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950608013518.21450D-100000@rowan.liii.com>
About that person recording ACoS. . .I would have to agree with you on
that one. I personally feel that the convention was at a family level,
and that Mike Portnoy and the others trusted that we would not tape the
song while it's being played. I know the person who did it, and I feel
that he was way out of line. I'd suggest to him that he'd destroy any
material he has regarding the studio version of ACoS.
I hope I haven't made any enemies on this list!
Greg :)
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[1;29m Gregory Chew -- "Catching every drop of hope in my empty cup..."
Gchew@liii.com :):):):):):):) -- Lea Salonga [0m
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Date: Thu, 08 Jun 1995 07:45:00 +0200
From: Wilco Barg <WBG@suppcent.ges.getronics.nl>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: boots trading
Message-ID: <sfd6acd4.025@suppcent.ges.getronics.nl>
Hi there,
During the last few months, since I became a member of the Digest, I #ve
read alot about boots of DT and QR. Being a great fan of both I wonder if
there is someone willing to trade boots with me. I just have one DT boot
on tape (Dance On Eternity) and I am dying for more DT and QR input.
Have alot of boots to trade about f.e. Marillion, Genesis, IQ, Rush, Yes
and many others. Please email me on the address mentioned below and I
will send you a list.
Greetings,
Wilco
WBG@GES101.GES.GETRONICS.NL
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I know it#s easier to walk away than look it in the eye Surrounded
How long can you stand
tightening up?
avoiding the fight
avoiding the truth
tighten the smile
will you get what you want ? ...
to be cursed with your dreams King by Marillion
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 23:03:32 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: More Sub CDs available!
Message-ID: <199506080603.XAA18142@bud.indirect.com>
I've got 20 more Subconscious CDs to sell, courtesy of a cancellation.
Get 'em while they last! :) You know the price & place.
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 01:28:00 -0500
From: kylania@mail.top.net
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Unplugged....Please....
Message-ID: <199506080628.BAA05544@dns.top.net>
I'll be the second one to vote for DT Unplugged before WDAJU. While
I'd love both, I'd like unplugged better.
Also am I the only DT fan in the Midwest?!? Doesn't seem to be many
out there!
Later.
Dave
"One you've touched you stand alone to face the bitter fight. Once I
reached for Love now I reach for Life." Learning to Live/Dream Theater
"Sacrifice they said, is a sign of nobility, But where does one draw the
line in the face of injury?" Someone Else?/Queensryche
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 10:05:40 +0200 (MESZ)
From: sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam List)
Subject: SUBCONSCIOUS
Message-ID: <9506080805.AA42229@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de>
Hi!
It's nearly a week since I received my copy of Subconscious and since then I
didn't manage to get ACOS out of my mind. Great song on a great CD, thanks,
Mike.
Now tell us what the hell this mystery track really is! Sounds like a cheap
synth playing a poor THX-style-jingle. A game-over-jingle perhaps?
Steffen
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 00:02:57 -0400
From: WarrenDW@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT Fanclub and I & W fanzine
Message-ID: <950608000256_65138780@aol.com>
Anyone who knows the addreses to subscribe to the I & W fanzine and/or
knows who to write to about the Fanclub that has the
never-hear-from-them-again-after-they-cash-your-check-syndrome please e-mail
me. I asked for this a month or so ago, got it, and promptly put it off
until I lost the information.
BTW...about Mike and Derek moving to Arizona....I don' think so.
They need to see green forests, snow-capped mountains, and a beautiful
coastline. So it will have to be here in Portland, Oregon.
I just have to figure a way to make them believe that it gets really hot here
more than 12 days a year....hot = > 65 degrees. really hot = > 90 degrees.
Mike Bahr....I wish I had the bucks to go and buy another stereo Hi-Fi
VCR.......those videos sound great.
Later
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 12:24:44 +0200 (MESZ)
From: wagner@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (ytsejam)
Subject: German dates
Message-ID: <9506081024.AA13736@penelope.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de>
Hello german ytsejammers,
is seems that DT are going to do four headlining-shows druing their festival-
tour in germany. The dates are (i got them from a friend of mine who got them
from Roundtable-Management, so they are mainly confirmed):
19.06. Kassel
20.06. Lichtenfels
27.06. Donau-Eschingen
28.06. Saarbruecken
Perhaps I'm going to Saarbruecken and to Kassel. Hope to see you guys.....
--
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---- Freedom belongs only to those without video screens for eyes and mouth ----
---------------------- Queensryche - Screaming In Digital ----------------------
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- Sometimes words can't say wahat the heart feels. But music can express what -
---------------------------- our language cannot. ------------------------------
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Till 'Tillroy' Wagner <wagner@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de>
Elisabethenstr. 42f; D-63225 Langen; Germany
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 06:43:21 -0400
From: jburks@pcs.MV.COM (Jamie Burks)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT Unplugged! (Ytsejam 844)
Message-ID: <199506081043.GAA19168@mv.mv.com>
> Finally, we were given an audiotape that can ONLY be expressed
>int he form of a CD. I want a vote as to whether to do it this fall
>BEFORE WDAJU, or wait till after. It's Dream Theater UNPLUGGED! And >it's
>crystal clear. Plus it has some tracks from when they were on the Bruce
>Dickinson show. The track list is:
>
> Caught in a Web
> Lifting Shadows off a Dream
> Lie
> Perfect Strangers (BD on vocals)
> Lifting Shadows off a Dream
> Wait For Sleep (GUITAR used instead of Piano... INCREDIBLE!!)
> The Silent Man
> The Lie Acoustic Boogie (you guys have to hear this)
> Tears (so beautifully perfect your head will explode)
>
> So what do you think all? DT unplugged as the next CD? And >the
>tape trees for the videos shall begin in earnest in a little while,
>possibly mid-august when the school people return.
You gotta be kidding me!!!!! This would be unbelievable!!! I would just
about kill to get a copy of this, and in CD form?!?!?!?!?!? Oh my god!
Yes, please please, please, please do it!!!!
------------------------------------------------------------------
"...the voice of reason against the howling mob"
"Nobodys Hero" - Rush
Jamie Burks - jburks@pcs.mv.com
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 13:32:48 +0100 (BST)
From: Look! Some mail from Andy! Cool! <andrew.moore@unn.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Message-ID: <950608133248.20405d3a@heaton.unn.ac.uk>
Hi,
I've been subscribing to this list for a few weeks but this is the first
time I've actually posted something!
what i'd like to know is, if ACOS EP is out Sept/Oct this year, is that
a worldwide release or just in the U.S.?
I've been into DT for the past couple of years, ever since I heard the live
version of 'Surrounded' (from LATM). It was featured on a free compilation
CD with Metal CD magazine and I played it to death! Another issue of this
mag had 'Take The Time' on the CD, and that inspired me to buy I&W.
Since then I have bought everything they have released over here, as well
as getting WDADU on import.
There seems to be some discussion about what the best album is, but in my
opinion it's gotta be 'Awake' - DT just keep getting better and better!!!
As far as I know 'The Silent Man' has not yet been released in the UK - I
keep checking the metal press to find out a release date. It was supposed
to be out to coincide with the RS gig - we're still waiting!!
Some of the RS gig was shown on a TV rock show over here called Noisy Mothers
but it was shown around 3.30 in the morning so many people may have missed it!
They played excerpts of about three songs - can't remember which offhand -
Damage Inc. was one! - and it was cool!
Sorry about the length - getting carried away a bit!!!!
Can't wait for the new stuff - roll on sept.!!!!!
Andy
"How can you possibly forgive me, after all the hell I put you through..."
The Mirror, Dream Theater
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 09:37:30 -0400
From: HuntNKill@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: #2(2) YTSEJAM digest 844
Message-ID: <950608093728_89733421@aol.com>
In a message dated 95-06-07 18:24:01 EDT, you write:
>HOWEVER, an event transpired that I just can't let sit. No names
>will
>be mentioned here, but you know who you are, and I have a feeling
>many
>of you know who it was as well. And if that's actually true, I think
>that makes quite an interesting statement in and of itself.
>
>I thought it was really wonderful that DT respected us enough as
>*fans* and *adults* to give us a chance to hear the new studio
>version
>of A Change of Seasons. This was someting quite special; when you
>share a new piece of music with someone, you are sharing part of your
>SELF with them. They didn't have to do it; they wanted to out of the
>goodness of their hearts.
>
>Then someone decided to destroy this special moment by using a
>hand-held tape recorder to steal this moment for themselves.
>
>Let me ask you something. Did you even THINK to ask any of the DT
>guys if this would be ok with them? Why not? You obviously KNEW
>what
>you were doing was incredibly sleazy and wrong because you were
>hiding
>your tape recorder like the little thief you are. Why did you feel
>the need to do this? Are you so pathetic that you need to do
>something like this to make you feel better or more privileged than
>others who will of course come begging you for copies? This is NOT
>the same as taping a show to trade, and you damn well know it.
>
>It's things like this that make me feel ashamed to be a music fan.
>That there are those who forget what it means to be a human being,
>and
>let nothing get in their way of doing whatever it takes to make them
>feel like they are "cooler" than other fans. How dare you consider
>yourself a true fan; using them to boost your own self-esteem. I
>hope
>someday you'll grow up and realize what a shitty thing you did.
I know that you didn't mention my name, but I've decided to come out in the
open. Yes, I was holding the tape recorder. Yes, I did ask Mike if I could
record it. No, there was nothing recorded. I repeat, there is _no bootleg
copy of A Change of Season_. I didn't have any plans to bootleg the song,
but my friend gave me his recorder anyhow. Well, I didn't want to tell him
that I didn't want to do it, so I took the recorder then "accidentally" shut
it off as soon as he gave it to me. Why? Well, I asked Mike about it, and he
said no. So, I repected that. So, I say again, there is _no bootleg copy of
A Change of Season_. Also, I must add that I told my friend to stop his
video camera while the song was playing. So, whoever posted this post about
me, don't begin flaming people until you get the complete story.
I feel really bad about what has happened. So, when I see Mike next week,
I'll tell him what happened at the convention. I'd understand if all of you
guys don't respect me anymore. I deserve it.
Yours,
Jeff
P.S. I read another post about my friends thanking me. Well, I think that
Babs deserves more credit than I do. I didn't do much. I just showed up at
the convention and made a complete ass of myself.
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 07:38:48 -0400
From: John Mastin <jmastin@motown.ge.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Unplugged!
Message-ID: <199506081138.HAA24307@cybertron.MOTOWN.GE.COM>
I say go for the unplugged CD next, Mike!
Johnny
DT tomorrow night in NJ. Only one more sleep! :D
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 06:35:36 -0500
From: curth@execpc.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: DT unplugged
Message-ID: <199506081135.GAA02717@earth.execpc.com>
Mike, you have my vote to go ahead with the new tapes instead of WDAJU - don't
get me wrong...I still will get WDAJU (when you put it out), but these new
items sound a lot more exciting!!! One quick question - how long is the total
length gonna be???
Scott Hansen
curth@execpc.com
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 10:33:08 -0400
From: mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu (Michael Burstin)
To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>, ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ACoS
Message-ID: <199506081433.KAA25359@cs.brandeis.edu>
Well... I have a few commments on the discussion over ACoS...
First off... about the use of f*ck in the song... Since most of us have
not heard it... we can't really comment on it... There are some songs
where it does seem appropriate... Think of the line from Spreading The
Disease "25 bucks a f*ck"... it seems extremly appropriate in this
instance... I don't believe that anything else would have fit into the
nature of the song...
Also... as far as someone taping ACoS at YtseCon... well... I personally
see nothing wrong w/ it... Its not like the person isn't planning on buying
the EP when it comes out... I mean... its something that is new that we
all want to hear... Its the same as before Awake came out, I trade the
Providence Silent Man demo, CiaW demo from Nightwatch, and Lie from the
'Net... and then traded the pre-release copy of Awake that we got... I
don't see much difference myself...
--
+----------------------------------------+----------------+---------+
| And I'll smile and learn to pretend | Dream Theater | Michael |
| And I'll never be open again | Space Dye Vest | Burstin |
| And I'll have no more dreams to defend |-----Awake------+---------+
| And I'll never be open again | Let's Go Pens |
+----------------------------------------+--------------------------+
For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 10:42:06 -0500
From: sjensen@research.westlaw.com (Scott Jensen)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: New Kansas
Message-ID: <9506081542.AA12831@research.westlaw.com>
A couple of days ago Ed Payne wrote about the new Kansas Freaks of Nature
disc and how good it is. I must second this as it an outstanding CD and
a worthy addition to any DT fan's CD collection.
As it was Kansas that originally turned me onto DT I highly recommend this
bit of musical excellence to all of you.
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 12:43:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: TIM LODGE -SGA/MACLAB POLITICAL SCIENCE '95 <LODGE_TIM@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: FREE DT CD'S...CORRECTION
Message-ID: <950608124307.2022141c@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>
Ok..For all the irate customers of mine who think I
am GIVING away the CD's that they have paid $$$ for..
THIS IS NOT TRUE. Not true at all. All I was trying to do
was establish a sales program whereby if you can refer a
certain amount of sales to me, then you get free stuff..
compensation for your work......and it would take WORK.
So everyone..please calm down.
:)
Tim
if you want more details..email me.
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 15:13:05 -0400
From: JennieBear@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Old Promo Signs
Message-ID: <950608151304_66332703@aol.com>
The following appeared in Ytsejam #842:
> I was crusing down the street the other day when I came upon a
red light. Sitting at this red light, I noticed a DT promotional sign on
a telephone pole. I was amazed that it was still there. The sign was
advertising a show that never happened almost two years ago!!! I thought
wow, I should grab that sign, but then I thought, it would be better to
leave the sign in place for all to see. Now I make a special point to let
all of my buddies know that the sign is there<
I'm assuming this was here in town (Sacramento) since you're back for the
summer? That's something I've noticed around here: people love to post signs
on telephone poles, but they never get taken down (to be honest, the
two-year-old sign doesn't surprise me that much <g>). That is, unless one of
my ex-boyfriends walks by...he had a wall in his room literally wallpapered
with Cattle Club posters...
So, where is this sign anyway??
Jen
--
"Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" - Magellan
"I am the beat of your pulse/the computer word made flesh" - Queensryche
jenniebear@aol.com kethry@netcom.com
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 15:12:56 -0400
From: JennieBear@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Drummers...
Message-ID: <950608151254_66332580@aol.com>
The following appeared in Ytsejam #837 (yes, it's old, but I was one of those
unfortunate souls who was unsubscribed due to some bug, and I am just now get
the issues I missed!):
>In other news, are there any drummers on the list? And do you think that
Portnoy is just fucking amazing!! I'm a bass player and I can't play one
beat on drums but I've been paying a lot of attention to Portnoy lately and
he is blowing my mind! I hope he influences a lot of drummers because he is
incredible.<
Well, Marc, I guess you may have missed the "don't play DT in the car/air
drumming/air guitar" thread...I mentioned that my husband is a drummer. He
idolizes Mike. :) Neil Peart (please don't let this start another Peart vs.
Portnoy thread!!) was his favorite drummer prior to hearing Dream Theater,
but Mike bumped Neil to second place...
Jen
--
"Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" - Magellan
"I am the beat of your pulse/the computer word made flesh" - Queensryche
jenniebear@aol.com kethry@netcom.com
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