YTSEJAM Digest 846
Today's Topics:
1) Re: ACoS
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
2) Not a scam...
by bbechtol@cisco.com (Bill Bechtold)
3) DT Unplugged
by jforte@acl.nyit.edu (Jeff Forte)
4) Unplugged
by euan@waikato.ac.nz
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 845
by euan@waikato.ac.nz
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 843
by "Jonathan J.S. Tischio" <tischio@caip.rutgers.edu>
7) Prater Production
by Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
8) Go for Unplugged
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
9) Ytsejam #845 (New Kansas)
by jburks@pcs.MV.COM (Jamie Burks)
10) Go for DT Unplugged - echolyn show
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
11) eMpTyV-Europe news!
by jerry@muc.de (Andreas Schaefer)
12) my vote on the new project
by KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
13) Hairball's Band
by dneff@maaco.com (David Neff)
14) Re: Not a scam...
by Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>
15) Mud sticking thing
by hafke@panix.com (David Hafke)
16) scam schplam dude
by TIM LODGE -SGA/MACLAB POLITICAL SCIENCE '95 <LODGE_TIM@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>
17) A Cornucopia of Chat
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 844
by Qghost@aol.com
19) The miracle and the tapper.
by Aviad Hay <aviad@kids-mail.k12.il>
20) DT unplugged
by basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer)
21) Re: DT unplugged/WDAJU
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
22) Unplugged
by Wilco Barg <WBG@suppcent.ges.getronics.nl>
23) Re: FREE DREAM THEATER CDs? little DT here...
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
24) Re: Prater Production
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
25) con in SB
by basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer)
26) tour dates
by polzin@rci.ripco.com (Slick Doggy Dawg)
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 12:49:59 PDT
From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: ACoS
Message-ID: <199506081949.MAA24333@netcom11.netcom.com>
Heh,
Knowing Mike Portnoy, you probably could've just ASKED for a copy of
ACoS... he probably would've let you tape it right off the equipment...
Next time something like this happens and you guys want a copy of some
pre-studio thing... just ask Portnoy... He'll probably let you record
it... no need to sneak around...
-The Doc
-- #$%*#$*@ REAL: drkhoe@netcom.com + VIRTUAL: drkhoe@gnu.ai.mit.edu *@#$*@#$ *$%&%#$* The Dream Theater Archives: ftp.netcom.com: /pub/dr/drkhoe/dt &*@#$*@$ **%^$#$% WWW: "ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/dr/drkhoe/www/dthome.html" #$**@#*$ *$*$*$*# Reality Enhancement Software - Engineering Reality *$&#*#@$------------------------------
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 11:19:00 -0700 From: bbechtol@cisco.com (Bill Bechtold) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Not a scam... Message-ID: <abfcedb2070210036ee2@[198.93.167.85]>
Howdy,
I'm new around here, but of the 4 other lists I'm on this kind of blatent crap would not be tolerated.
>Anyone interested in FREE Dream >Theater CD's, please email me. >I'm speaking in direct reference >to the Instrumental, Instrumental II, >Rising Power, and Majesty Demos,a >and perhaps some others....
I want my free CD now, and I don't want to become a door to door CD salesperson (being pollitically correct.)
>For example, if you get someone >who is interested in buying you just forward them the appropriate >information..they cite you as the reference...and wham! you get >credit for the sale. The breakdown for sales is as follows: > >1) Sell 5 Compact Discs - Earn 1 free Compact Disc for yourself. > >2) Sell 3 Videos - Earn 1 free Video for yourself. > >3) Sell 4 tape sets, get 1 free. > >4) Depending on how this goes, I may offer a top sales cash award, > or something like that... :)
Maybe I'm just annoyed that I wasted my time returning an e-mail. Maybe I'm just annoyed I'm not getting a free CD. Maybe I'm just in a bad mood....OH WELL!
I still am interested in many of these CD's. ANyone got them for sale? After all, if you sell me five you could get one free!!!!!! (Top sales cash award!!!)
Peace, -Bill B.
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 17:39:03 -0400 From: jforte@acl.nyit.edu (Jeff Forte) To: Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: DT Unplugged Message-ID: <95060817390310@acl.nyit.edu>
Go for the unplugged first...I'm interested to hear how the songs sound.
________________________________________________________________________________ Jeff Forte jforte@acl.nyit.edu "I wanted to find An Innocent Mind, but only found myself waiting" --Kevin Moore ________________________________________________________________________________
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:39:51 +1200 From: euan@waikato.ac.nz To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Unplugged Message-ID: <v01510103abfd1e74db0d@[130.217.176.34]>
UNPLUGGED FIRST!!! then send me a copy.
Euan Kilgour Language Institute University of Waikato Private Bag 3105 Hamilton New Zealand.
"I look at the World and see no understanding..." _Dream Theater_ 'Learning to Live' - Images and Words
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:49:34 +1200 From: euan@waikato.ac.nz To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 845 Message-ID: <v01510105abfd1f761755@[130.217.176.34]>
>Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 00:02:57 -0400 >From: WarrenDW@aol.com >To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com >Subject: DT Fanclub and I & W fanzine >Message-ID: <950608000256_65138780@aol.com>
>BTW...about Mike and Derek moving to Arizona....I don' think so. >They need to see green forests, snow-capped mountains, and a beautiful >coastline. So it will have to be here in Portland, Oregon. >I just have to figure a way to make them believe that it gets really hot here >more than 12 days a year....hot = > 65 degrees. really hot = > 90 degrees. > I know just the place for the guys! Right here in New Zealand. No one (except a few faithful fans) know who they are and we have all kinds of weather and more coastline than the continental US (yes even Texas). A lot of other musicians come here to get away (Fine Young Cannibals, Rod Stewart to name a few) from it all and to gain inspiration. So, what about coming down under for a visit?
Euan Kilgour Language Institute University of Waikato Private Bag 3105 Hamilton New Zealand.
"I look at the World and see no understanding..." _Dream Theater_ 'Learning to Live' - Images and Words
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 18:14:39 -0400 From: "Jonathan J.S. Tischio" <tischio@caip.rutgers.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 843 Message-ID: <199506082214.SAA12760@caip.rutgers.edu>
If any of you are going to be at the show tomorrow at Birch Hill in Old Bridge, NJ tomorrow, let me know. It would be kewl to finally meet some of you who make this list go squeak.
Jonathan
Jonathan J.S. Tischio, Cook College Program Development Staff ECO Policy Center, Cook College, P.O. Box 700, New Brunswick, NJ, 08903-0700 Office: (908)932-9583 Fax: (908)932-9544 Home: (908)756-7061 E-mail: work: <tischio@caffeine.rutgers.edu> other: <tischio@tchaikovsky.rutgers.edu> <tischio@sage.sic.com> URL: http://www-caip.rutgers.edu/~tischio
Sleep is great, but it's no substitute for caffeine.
Bite the wax tadpole!!!!
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 18:30:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Prater Production Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.950608182400.13463B-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
I was just listening to I&W and remembered a few things about David Prater that I wanted to mention;
1) I was told by a member of the band Arcade that Prater has "a tendency to show you one mix, then, turn around and mix something completely differently." This is why Rick Parashar (sp) (who produced the 1st PJ album & Pride & Glory's album - which kicks serious ass BTW...) was called in to mix Arcade's debut.
So, while you heard live drums at YtseCon, I hope the boys have learned to stick around while Prater mixes so he doesn't put those DAMNED TRIGGERED DRUMS IN!!!!!!!! I really hate those things now, after listening to Awake so much...
2) I never really noticed it until recently, but, I&W has a lot of vocal double tracking on it. Best spot to hear where it kicks in: PMU -
"Watch The Sparrow Falling" <- single track... "Gives new meaning to it all..." <- double tracked
Again, I didn't notice it until listening to Awake constantly since last August/September (yes, I did get it then. I know when it came out.).
3) As I'm not a drummer, don't shoot me; but those timbales or rototoms that you hear during Metropolis are NOT what's been added sample-wise. The HIGH-HAT has. Listen to it very closely you'll hear it. Either that, or it's over-dubbed. (besides the obvious snare & kick, gag) Okay...more later. Hadn't technobabbled in a while. felt the urge.
-Hairball
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 18:43:44 -0500 From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Go for Unplugged Message-ID: <v01510100abfd3ae725fb@[199.232.46.229]>
Mike,
I'm putting in my vote for the Unplugged disk before WDAJU.
Marc Respass mer@sol.iii.net http://www.iii.net/users/mer.html
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 18:52:38 -0400 From: jburks@pcs.MV.COM (Jamie Burks) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Ytsejam #845 (New Kansas) Message-ID: <199506082252.SAA22317@mv.mv.com>
>Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 10:42:06 -0500 >From: sjensen@research.westlaw.com (Scott Jensen) >To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com >Subject: New Kansas >Message-ID: <9506081542.AA12831@research.westlaw.com> > > >A couple of days ago Ed Payne wrote about the new Kansas Freaks of Nature >disc and how good it is. I must second this as it an outstanding CD and >a worthy addition to any DT fan's CD collection. > >As it was Kansas that originally turned me onto DT I highly recommend this >bit of musical excellence to all of you. >
Does this mean that this new Kansas album is out? ------------------------------------------------------------------ "...the voice of reason against the howling mob" "Nobodys Hero" - Rush Jamie Burks - jburks@pcs.mv.com ------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 19:16:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Go for DT Unplugged - echolyn show Message-ID: <199506082316.TAA15140@umbc9.umbc.edu>
I say go for the the unplugged CD before the WDAJU. I would also love to see the video!!
Anyone else going to see echolyn at the Bayou on Saturday in DC? Friday is thier 1st show with DT so it will be interesting to talk to the guys in the band and see what they thought. Plus they are playing with DT on the 13th (right?). I was thinking that it would be really cool if some of DT (namely Mike) came to the echolyn show to see them do a full set!!
Also, someone was looking for some boots in the last jam. I've got alot if you wanna check out my list. Also, I can dub videos (only hifi to mono) for a few more days if anyone is interested.
-- ************************************************************************** * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu * * * * You're fighting the weight of the world, * * and no one can save you this time. * * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. * * * * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater * **************************************************************************
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 02:41:41 +0200 From: jerry@muc.de (Andreas Schaefer) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: eMpTyV-Europe news! Message-ID: <95Jun9.013829met_dst.25552-2@colin.muc.de>
Hi 'jammers, Got this news from a confidential source at eMpTyV-Europe in London (Mike you know..): The Ronnie Scotts'-gig will be the aired at the end of june/ beginning of july! Seems they got some request for that one, and not only from the ytsejam. So let's wait and see.. and of course clean the heads of our VCRs..
Also good news: I finally received my Subconscious-copy today!!! Mike you're the soul of this list! Absolutely f*cking great.. A echter Wahnsinn.. My guess for track 15: some jingle from a japanese TV-station or video company. BTW i vote for DT-unplugged before WDAJU.
read you - jerry :--)
---------------------------------------------------------------- Andreas Schaefer email: jerry@muc.de "..this one goes to eleven" Spinal Tap ----------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 19:51:34 -0400 From: KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: my vote on the new project Message-ID: <9506082351.AA11872@>
Hello all! It's good to see that there are still some of you who haven't lost your accounts for the summer :-) Anyway, even though I still haven't sent Mike my $$ for Subconscious (by the way, what's the address again???) I vote for the unplugged thing, mostly because I like Charlie singing Charlie's songs as opposed to an overwhelming desire to hear DT undone (oops...unplugged!) What else? Congrats to those who went to the convention. I must admit that I skipped it because I figured no one would show up. I gambled, and lost. That's about all. Oh, to continue a personal tradition (don't ask), my five are: Mindfunk- People Who Fell from the Sky, Crimson Glory - Same, Trouble - Plastic Green Head, Souls at Zero - Taste for the Perverse, and The Organization - Savor the Flavor. (Big thanks to cdnow!) Gotta go watch the Wings finish of the Blackhawks... -- Kevin Madden (kwmadden@usa.pipeline.com) Go Wings in 95!! Octopus strangles Black Hawk. News at Eleven.
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Date: Thu, 08 Jun 1995 19:11:55 -0600 From: dneff@maaco.com (David Neff) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com ('smtp:ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com') Subject: Hairball's Band Message-ID: <1995Jun08.190727.1059.1511@smtp.maaco.com>
>Hey - somewhat DT related thing here: > >Dave Neff came out & saw my band tonight at this dinky shithole bar!
Dave who? I dunno, I kinda like "dinky" little neighborhood bars. It was the Old State Tavern in Media, PA. I've been in MUCH worse! Andy the bar tender was real cool too.
>Ask Dave what he thinks of our drummer...
Yowie-zowie, he is good! Not many local bands do really good drum solos any more (at least not around here). :( In fact, everyone in the band is really good, especially Hairball on bass, natch.
>Wanna know what we sound like? Ask Dave.
Hmmm. Jazzy, light, bluesy rock? All original. Very enjoyable, even for an incurable metalheal like myself. (Sabbath & Motorhead at the Tower July 12; QR in Camden - YES!)
We'll be expecting ALL of you jammers on 6/9 and 6/17, including you Europeans, Asians, Aussies, etc. I don't want to hear any excuses!
>So, Dave, I'd like to publically thank you for coming out
My pleasure!
Looking forward to seeing Spruce Street Revival again ... (that IS the name, isn't it?)
- Dave Neff dneff@maaco.com
P.S. Hairball's post was somewhat DT related because I wore my I&W shirt, FYI. (That must have been what he meant...!)
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 18:05:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Not a scam... Message-ID: <199506090105.SAA26876@malibu.sfu.ca>
> > Howdy, > > I'm new around here, but of the 4 other lists I'm on this kind of > blatent crap would not be tolerated.
that explains it (you are new around here). I tolerate Tim's messages because he's different from others who try to sell stuff on the net. I think he provides a valuable service to ytsejam, by offering the dream theater cds that he does. i've bought 3 or 4 from him myself, and if he hadn't posted to this list i would never have known about these cds. i don't know of any other place that sells the cds he does (majesty demos, instrumental I, and II), so i'm glad that he lets us know when something new comes out (like instrumental II).
if i knew people in my city that like dream theater, i'd definitely let them know about tim (and not just to get my free cd).
tim (just sticking up for the other tim) :)
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 21:48:17 -0400 From: hafke@panix.com (David Hafke) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Mud sticking thing Message-ID: <199506090148.VAA23021@panix.com>
To the person who recorded the convention:
How much would it cost for you to make me a copy? Just kidding.
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 22:00:13 -0400 (EDT) From: TIM LODGE -SGA/MACLAB POLITICAL SCIENCE '95 <LODGE_TIM@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: scam schplam dude Message-ID: <950608220013.24000eb5@CSUSYS.CTSTATEU.EDU>
] Ok. everyone calm down. Someone tell that guy to take something for that!!!
It was not a scam. i just though perhaps people would be interested..ok if you are not ITS A FREE COUNTRY.
get over it.
Tim
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 19:09:24 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: A Cornucopia of Chat Message-ID: <199506090209.TAA17892@bud.indirect.com>
Ok now to address a whole pile of subjects at once.
1. So far it's (no kidding) 71 in favor of Unplugged before WDAJU, and 2 against, so I'm going to go ahead and do Unplugged next. It will be done "sooner" than the huge delay between Sub and Cygnus, since I know a lot of you hate waiting. :)
2. As far as Jeff taping ACOS... he's owned up to it, apparently it didn't happen, so I guess it's a dead issue now. I would suggest to everyone that we don't keep riding Jeff about this, because it's not as if he pulled a Jeremy Haynes on us. Being a "country bumpkin" from the remote wilds of Arizona, I know I have no etiquette whatsoever and would probably have committed even worse faux-pas, which is part of the reason I didn't go to Ytsecon (James LaBrie hates me already, and I sure don't want to be on Portnoy's bad side.) So what I'm getting at is... it happened, it's over, and now we move on.
3. Holy shit, all three Cds sold in less than a day. (rush boots)
4. Regarding the tape trees for the videos, I'll start these up in early to mid August. I'll post a "call to attention" here on the Jam so my trusty dubbers can hear. :)
5. Generic info.
Of those 20 extra copies of Subconscious I had, 8 were snapped up within hours, leaving me 12. If you wish me to reserve you one, just let me know. The price is $25, and the address is:
Michael Bahr 3175 N. Price Rd. #1066 Chandler, AZ 85224
If you want a copy, _please_ take advantage of this now. Those remaining copies include my own personal extra copies, and when these 20 are history, there really won't ever be any more.
Cygnus... pre-ordering is in full steam. I'll post an update soon. The address is as above, the price is $23, and there is no limit to the number of Cds you can order. You also don't have to reserve: there are only 800 Jammers, there will be 1000 Cygni, and all of you are getting a shot at it before anyone else, so there will be enough. :)
Mainly I'm just rehashing this info to keep orders moving along smoothly, and to help with people who just need the price or address and already knew about the projects.
Next up: Dream Theater Unplugged!
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com Take care, everybody...
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 23:21:31 -0400 From: Qghost@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 844 Message-ID: <950608232117_67084659@aol.com>
I was away for a while...what is WDAJU? Thank you. ================================== Ghost Qghost@aol.com
"I'm sitting in the fireplace burning up my time." ==================================
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 95 8:14 +0300 From: Aviad Hay <aviad@kids-mail.k12.il> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: The miracle and the tapper. Message-ID: <m0sJwSa-0001q8C@crash.cts.com>
Marc wrote: >I must have missed your post Aviad. Doesn't matter because I'm not >attempting a transcription. I'm not very good at tapping. Anyway, I thought >it was all a two handed tap thing a la Sheehan. Do you think he's picking >the first three four notes then hammering that 15th fret in the right then >picking again? I don't read Tab too well. I'd love to know how you play it >though.
Well, I'm not picking anything here, just doing a more let's say "complex" tapping: I use four different fingers. I hammer'em sometimes but the general idea is using more fingers then let's say: the ordinary billy sheehan style. But my transcription is obviously far from what John really do there. If you like I could tell you my exact fingering on this.
BTW: "I'm not so good at tapping" - just invent you're own nice little patterns (I have thousands) with different fingers just to get your fingers in shape and then you'll natrually progress and make more complex patterns - Find all you need in your mind if you just take the time.
Marc also wrote: >If anyone from Dream Theater reads this list: WE WANT THE BASS >TRANSCRIPTIONS. How about all the bass players on the list do an email (or >snail mail) petition. What's up with this? Who cares about the guitar >parts. Take out the bass and what've you got?
Yes! Yes! exactly my words! get out the bass and what have you got???????? Maybe we SHOULD do a petition of some sort - WE WANT THE BASS TABLATURE. NOW!!
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Mike Patrick wrote: >Um, this has been talked about before, but ever heard of Stu Hamm? I bet >John Myung has.
Ok. Ok. So what stuart hamm album should I buy in order to get a full tapping "school"?
And if it has been talked about before - did anyone actually transcribed the god damn thing?? I could use the tablature...
10x in advance.
Aviad "Horse's food" Hay.
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 07:50:07 +0200 From: basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: DT unplugged Message-ID: <9506090550.AA05581@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
Hi Jammers!
This is for Mike Bahr!
DO DT UNPLUGGED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bye.
Bernd.
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 95 22:47:55 PDT From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: DT unplugged/WDAJU Message-ID: <9506090547.AA08027@tengs1.teng>
> > > Finally, we were given an audiotape that can ONLY be expressed > > int he form of a CD. I want a vote as to whether to do it this fall > > BEFORE WDAJU, or wait till after. It's Dream Theater UNPLUGGED! And it's > > crystal clear. Plus it has some tracks from when they were on the Bruce > > Dickinson show. The track list is: > > > > Caught in a Web > > Lifting Shadows off a Dream > > Lie > > Perfect Strangers (BD on vocals) > > Lifting Shadows off a Dream > > Wait For Sleep (GUITAR used instead of Piano... INCREDIBLE!!) > > The Silent Man > > The Lie Acoustic Boogie (you guys have to hear this) > > Tears (so beautifully perfect your head will explode) > > > > So what do you think all? DT unplugged as the next CD? And the > > tape trees for the videos shall begin in earnest in a little while, > > possibly mid-august when the school people return. > > well, do you have _all_ the songs from WDADU that James sings on? > personally, i think you should wait until you do...it's not the same > without one of the songs. > so i vote for UNPLUGGED first, then WDAJU when you get _all_ the songs. > > tim a.
If the unplugged songs are as great as you say they are, then count this as a vote for that before WDAJU. But Mike said he'll contribute the missing track anyway, so I think all the WDAJU songs are available. Since most of us have heard the sources that WDAJU songs are coming from (*decent* quality, but not *great*), then, hell--- do the DTUP CD first.
Zach
PS, I know Mike was excited about the WDAJU CD when he found out about it, but what does he think about Sub. and this new project?
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Date: Fri, 09 Jun 1995 07:44:05 +0200 From: Wilco Barg <WBG@suppcent.ges.getronics.nl> To: Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Unplugged Message-ID: <sfd7fc1f.004@suppcent.ges.getronics.nl>
Mike I think people are right. It's better to wait till you've got All WDADU songs sang by James. I therefore vote for the unplugged CD as well.
By the way how long do I have to wait for my Subconsious. All those great reviews have made me curious about it (It's about six weeks ago, that I ordered the disc).
If people are interested in an old interview I had with James last year, it was in August 1994 just before the European release of Awake, please let me know. I don't know if I can put it on the maillist, because it's about six or seven A4 pages text. In this interview he's telling the stories behind the Awake songs and also the fact that ACOS will be recorded and released as an EP. It was an interview I had In the Amstel Hotel in Amsterdam of about half an hour.
Greetings, Wilco WBG@GES101.GES.GETRONICS.NL
************************************************************************************** I know it#s easier to walk away than look it in the eye Surrounded
How long can you stand tightening up? avoiding the fight avoiding the truth tighten the smile will you get what you want ? ... to be cursed with your dreams King by Marillion *************************************************************************************
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 95 23:01:23 PDT From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: FREE DREAM THEATER CDs? little DT here... Message-ID: <9506090601.AA08084@tengs1.teng>
> > Anyone interested in FREE Dream > Theater CD's, please email me. > I'm speaking in direct reference > to the Instrumental, Instrumental II, > Rising Power, and Majesty Demos,a > and perhaps some others.... > > Email for the details. no this is not > a scam..Just some "sales" positions. > > :) > > tIM
Yes, network marketing--- the sales method of the future (many companies sell billions and billions of $$ worth of product this way worldwide). NM simply eliminates most of the overhead costs for a company that engages in it. Although many people have been left with a bad taste in their mouth in the past few decades by such companies like Amway, it is a legitimate (legal) marketing method. Compensation plans and methods of distribution vary greatly from company to company (i.e. you don't have to stock your garage with product, many companies take care of the distribution (and record-keeping) for you. Many well-known companies like Colgate-Palmolive, Hunydai (sp??), MCI-Sprint, use NM to move a certain percentage of their product. This is not well known since NM relies on word-of-mouth. The industry is growing (often exponentially) each year world-wide.
Tim, you wouldn't happen to be a member of JWI? No? Just checking !>)>
Zach (sorry 'jammers, we haven't had a good off-topic thread since school let out--- flame me at leisure!)
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 23:18:06 PDT From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Prater Production Message-ID: <199506090618.XAA05573@netcom18.netcom.com>
I don't think Prater is producing the EP... nothing that I've heard anyways...
I have noticed that his productions are rather sickly generic sounding and sort of thin...
-The Doc
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 08:24:23 +0200 From: basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: con in SB Message-ID: <9506090624.AA06069@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
Me again!
Seems like there will be quite a lot ytsejammers in Saarbruecken... How about a little ytse-con around there? :) Anyone interested?
Later,
Bernd.
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 01:25:32 -0500 (CDT) From: polzin@rci.ripco.com (Slick Doggy Dawg) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: tour dates Message-ID: <m0sJxVc-0001AzC@golden.ripco.com>
Does Anyone know when dt is coming to the chicago area? (or milwaukee or st. louis or somewhere within 250 miles of chicago?) Thanks.
Ed
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