YTSEJAM Digest 861
Today's Topics:
1) WDADU, I&W, or Awake?
by Kevin Murray LaBrie <majesty@cyberspace.org>
2) No DT Content, Sorry.
by "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
3) Fave moments/Production etc
by Adam Soudure <gillius@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>
4) More expensive Awake
by jforte@acl.nyit.edu (Jeff Forte)
5) A Change of Seasons
by FilDBaskt@aol.com
6) SB-Con
by basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer)
7) EUROPEAN TOUR CANCELLED?
by Timo Haanp{{ UPR <thaanpaa@ra.abo.fi>
8) Flotsam
by Carmen J Pezzone <cpezzone@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
9) selling boots
by Carmen J Pezzone <cpezzone@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
10) I&W vs. Awake
by larsh@tor250.org (Lars Hellsten)
11) re: NOV tour dates
by q_bert@ix.netcom.com (Robert Quezada )
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 860
by BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu
13) Re: What's this
by "Michael Wolberg" <WOLBERG@chemie.uni-oldenburg.de>
14) DT & Iron Maiden + other things
by "Ken H ili" <KEN@benoni.nbr.no>
15) Don't Look Past Me....
by Chris_Mahaffey@ccmail.odedodea.edu
16) Re: Another bad trader?????
by An Angel's Kiss... <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
17) Megadeth!
by Robert_Kasper_at_Main__Post__office@voyager.capmetro.austin.tx.us (Robert Kasper)
18) FAQ Update Time
by jskewes@metronet.com (Jason Skewes)
19) guitarists
by nguyen john t <jtnguyen@cs.twsu.edu>
20) Re: TO
by Anderson/Noah Nordrum <trek221@wn.supertrek.k12.mn.us>
21) * RE: YTSEJAM digest 859
by Aviad Hay <aviad@mail.snunit.k12.il>
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 1995 17:28:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kevin Murray LaBrie <majesty@cyberspace.org>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (ytsejam)
Subject: WDADU, I&W, or Awake?
Message-ID: <199506202128.RAA25460@grex.cyberspace.org>
When WDADU came out I thought DT was the greatest band I'd had ever heard,
Then I&W came out with James singing and it blew me away, Then when Awake
was released I said, "What Happened?". But the Album grew on me and became
my most listened to album in my collection. Now that I got a freind of
mine into DT, he just loves I&W and I find myself listening to I&W more
than Awake. Weird.
KML
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Date: Mon, 19 Jun 1995 00:48:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam )
Subject: No DT Content, Sorry.
Message-ID: <199506190448.AAA28723@grex.cyberspace.org>
Sorry for the lack of DT content, but this list seemed like a good source
for my question:
Has anyone heard of a forthcoming Alex Lifeson solo
project? I heard Sabastian Back was singing a track on it? Thanx in
advance for any and all responses.
-John
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 13:11:20 +0800 (WST)
From: Adam Soudure <gillius@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Fave moments/Production etc
Message-ID: <199506210511.NAA15308@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>
> From: Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
>
> 2) "Best" Concept Album. O:M is ONE OF the best concept albums...perhaps
> the best "Metal" concept album...but, it's not considered "The Best"
> concept album of all time. That honor usually goes to PF's "The Wall." But...
>
I personally think the Wall is a huge excercise in Roger Waters
pandering to his own ego. I used to like it, but now I can't get through
the first disc :( Mindcrime is great as is Brave by Marillion, Misplaced
Childhood, Seventh Son of a Seventh son by Iron Maiden and Dark Side of
the Moon. I couldn't really tell you which is my favourite, 'coz that
changes with my mood :)
> 3) Could someone inform me where any band member has called "Awake" a
> concept album? Just curious as to whether or not I've missed something,
> or it's simply a case of people thinking too much...
>
I think people probably read too much into it, there are some recurring
themes in Awake but I would hardly call it a concept album.
> 4) I&W v. AWAKE (again): I hate the drums on I&W. The more I listen to
> that (after hearing Awake), the more they bother me...and a lot of
> other production stuff really bugs the crap out of me. It just sounds
> so processed! Sure, maybe all of you like nice, overproduced material,
> especially after WDADU, but, after hearing what a REAL production team
> can do with DT, I&W just pales in comparison. Barron/Purdell are
> great. It actually sounds like a band - not like a bunch of sequencers.
> And as for the writing on Awake: If they'd put out another I&W, I would've
> tossed all my DT stuff. Probably the reason I like Awake more than I&W
> is simply because it's NOT like I&W. Yeah, I&W has it's moments, but,
> Awake's just a better album, writing-wise as well. Why? Lemme tell yas a
> story...
>
Absolutely agree here. I was watching Live in Tokyo yesterday (when I
should have been studying for an exam :) and found Mike's live sound
with his shitty old Tama Imperialstar sounded better than the triggers
on I&W. My band has tried triggers before and we hate them! Then again
our drummer does have a beautiful Tama DX Pro kit with a massive 9"
snare drum. I reckon the overall sound on Awake is much more open and
clean, you can hear all the instruments and it just seems to hang
together a lot better. I really don't like David Prater as a producer,
anybody who has heard some of his work with Firehouse would correct in
thinking a lot of the albums he does sound the same. John P's guitar
sound is awesome on Awake too...
> Basically, what I'm driving at here is this - I&W sold FAR more
> copies than Awake...at least in this country. (I dunno about Europe. They
> seem to have their shit together - maybe DT ought to go the Zappa route,
> and tell the American audiences to "Sit Down, Shut Up, and Listen.") Why?
> Because it wasn't another "PMU" album. Some of the best material around
> is stuff that DIDN'T SELL WELL to the masses, Especially if you're
> looking for Material that's off the beaten path. Proof? KING'S X- Anything.
> Galactic Cowboys. And select Kansas albums.
>
True enough, I like Awake firstly because it has great songs and
secondly because they didn't try to do I&W Mk II. It could have been
quite easy to do that and be almost guaranteed of a hit, but they seem
to be a little more intelligent than that :) I personally like bands
who do go their own way, and Hairball's examples are good examples of
that...
My fave DT moments:
1. The fast keyboard/guitar run just before the Keys solo in Scarred
2. The first verse of Learning to Live, with just the bass, drums and
keys
3. Opening riff of Under a Glass Moon on LiT
4. The back to back guitar and keys solos in UAGM
5. The guitar chords (ala Eddie Van Halen) at about 4:10 in Erotomania
6. JP's first solo in Erotomania, sounds a lot like Allan Holdsworth
7. The "Try to push me 'round the world some more" vocal in CIAW
8. Chorus for CIAW
9. The ultra fast band bit in AFIL on LATM
10. Mike's drum intro for 6:00
Adam
-- *** RUSH ELP YES QUEEN QUEENSRYCHE FATES-WARNING KING'S-X *** *** Adam Soudure: gillius@tartarus.uwa.edu.au *** *** *** *** "Your breath comes straight *** *** from Satan's bottom, Baldrick" *** *** - Edmund Blackadder *** *** IRON-MAIDEN MOTORHEAD GENESIS KANSAS TRIUMPH K-CRIMSON*** ==== Tottenham Hotspur FC Supporter. Come on you Spurs!====------------------------------
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 01:10:11 -0400 From: jforte@acl.nyit.edu (Jeff Forte) To: Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: More expensive Awake Message-ID: <95062101101131@acl.nyit.edu>
>New CD, Japanese import - $28.99 - is there another CD in here or >something? The packaging indicated that it was the same as the U.S. version.
This has got an extra CD in it with an extra song on it (either EVE or To Live Forever, someone help me on this one.)
Later :)
________________________________________________________________________________ Jeff Forte jforte@acl.nyit.edu "Heaven must be more than this, when angels waken with a kiss, sacred hearts won't take the pain, but mine will never be the same." --Kevin Moore
"A twisted soul--the mortar Despair--the bricks To build a temple to sadness" J. O'Barr "The Crow" ________________________________________________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 01:33:02 -0400 From: FilDBaskt@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: A Change of Seasons Message-ID: <950621013301_75086013@aol.com>
This might sound stupid, but I am realitivly new to Dream Theatre. Not all that new, I own there three main recorded albums (When Day..., I&W, Awake) and InstruMental II. I plan to get some of the other items they have put out soon. My question is about ACOS as the subject implies. Does ACOS have words to it? It is on the Instrumental II and as the name implies is instrumental. But many of the songs that are on Instrumental I have had words added to them and Metropolis Part I, which is on Instrumental II also has had words added so I would like to know if ACOS has had words added as well. Also, as a general question, what recorded material buy DT should I seek to purchase? What I know of is as follows: InstruMental I, The Live Album from Japan(forgot the name), and there is also a copy of what I believe is their first demo back from the Majesty days that I can get. What else is there?
Thanks.
New Here, Phil
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 07:55:25 +0200 From: basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: SB-Con Message-ID: <9506210555.AA12411@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
Hi Jammers!
>Hi Jammers, >how about meeting at the bar in the KuFa. There are several bars, I would >say the one to the right (when facing the stage) would be the best place. >Usually the mixing console is just next to it and most of the people go >to the left bar (so we have a good chance to meet the right people). > >So long, > >Tim Schwartz > Ok, I think that's a good idea. We (Tilman and me) first thought about meeting in the city but that would have caused more difficulties than just having fun. So lets meet at the right bar. I'm looking forward to it!! Finally we'll see the people we write to on the jam. :)
Bye.
Bernd.
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 11:44:31 +0300 (EET DST) From: Timo Haanp{{ UPR <thaanpaa@ra.abo.fi> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: EUROPEAN TOUR CANCELLED? Message-ID: <199506210844.LAA13179@aton.abo.fi>
Dream Theater have cancelled all their European dates!! I heard this from a Finnish ticket office, so I guess it is rather reliable.
Timo
-- * Timo Haanpaa * Turku, Finland * Forgetting how to SMILE! * Dream Theater! *
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 08:59:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Carmen J Pezzone <cpezzone@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Flotsam Message-ID: <199506211259.IAA16931@beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
this is for the Flotsam & Jetsam discussion. The last poster said that Jason Newsted was on No Place For Disgrace. This is not true. Jason played on only one album, 'Doomsday for the Deciever.' The following albums, 'When the Stom Comes Down','No Place for Disgrace', and 'Cuatro' all had different base players. they finally stuck with the base player from Cuatro and made 'Drift.' this is the first time they have made two albums with the same base player. by the way, Kerrang! gave Cuatro 5 stars. That almost never happens. Well, I just thought I'de pass all of that on. I don't have the CDs on me so I cannot check the base players names, sorry. Hope this helps.
Later, Carmen
-- Mr. Carmen J. Pezzone Jr. (Aero/Astro Eng) cpezzone@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu you can reach me also at pezzone.1@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu Take the Time^Roll the Bones^Up the Irons^Balls to Picasso^Rust in Piece Mouth for War^Kill 'em All^A Jar of Flies^Songs for Instects^Speak the Word
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 09:08:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Carmen J Pezzone <cpezzone@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: selling boots Message-ID: <199506211308.JAA18230@beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Hi everyone, Well, i am in need of some money to pay my rent and have two boots to sell. They are 'Live in Long Island' and 'A kick Into A Dream.' check the boot discography fro the tracks. I don't want to waste bandwidth with the long description. The first is a single CD from the I&W tour. The second is a 2CD set from the Awake tour. Lemme know.
Later, Carmen
-- Mr. Carmen J. Pezzone Jr. (Aero/Astro Eng) cpezzone@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu you can reach me also at pezzone.1@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu Take the Time^Roll the Bones^Up the Irons^Balls to Picasso^Rust in Piece Mouth for War^Kill 'em All^A Jar of Flies^Songs for Instects^Speak the Word
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Date: 19 Jun 95 20:37:19 -0500 From: larsh@tor250.org (Lars Hellsten) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: I&W vs. Awake Message-ID: <61e_9506210835@tor250.org>
Well, this is my second post about I&W vs. Awake, but I didn't get every- thing in last time, and I had to to post today. ;)
To Jason Hartman: I'm one relatively new DT fan. I got into them only last winter, I had never heard of them until I started getting into some other relatively prog stuff (QR, King's X), and I heard stuff like "Promised Land sounds too much like Dream Theater", and "If you like QR, you'll love DT", so I went out and got I&W. From the opening strains of PMU, to the amazing outro to LTL, I knew I'd found a new favourite band.
I got Awake once I'd had time to let I&W sink in. I was slightly disappoint- ed at first with Awake, but I guess I was expecting something like I&W, and I can see why that was the case at the time - but looking back, I wouldn't want another I&W, the more diversity, the better - DT are talented enough musicians, that no matter what they do, it'll kick ass. (BTW, have you received my money order for the CD, tape and video yet? Been meaning to e-mail you about that...)
Now, about I&W vs. Awake. I didn't know how to express this before, but I think I'll do a little better this time. :) Someone mentioned they liked Awake better because the lyrics are more realistic, and the songs are rawer, and not over-produced. Well, those are pretty much the reasons I prefer I&W.
First, as far as the lyrics go (although, they're not a huge determining factor for me), I'd have to say I prefer I&W. I think the lyrics on I&W are more poetic (or better poetically, whatever), and the fact that they are mostly fantasy appeals to me. I mean, it's good to have a bit of both, ultimately I'd prefer an album that has a bit of both poetic, fantasy-type lyrics, and then stuff like "Voices".
Secondly, is that they had much longer to work on the music and refine it. I think they managed to add an amazing feel to the music, especially with the keyboard work, which was much better than on Awake. The music basically flows really well, and that appeals to me a lot. I don't really like songs like "Scarred" where it seems more often than not, one riff follows another and they just don't flow together at all, it just doesn't sound right/natural.
I guess the bottom line for me, is that I&W is like a fantasy, the music seems sur-real, and the over-production job (those snares are getting annoying though - gee, someone just HAD to mention it, I'd probably have never noticed... :) ), and heavy use of keyboards seems to add to that. It's not just the production though, because even live, the songs on I&W stand apart from Awake just as much as they do on the album. Evern time I sit down and listen to I&W - and I know this will sound corny - it's like some surreal experience, and all my other thoughts get left behind.
Well, I guess that's about all I have to say on the subject. Sorry for the length, but if you don't have all day to read this stuff, but what can I say, I have all day to write it. =)
-- Lars Hellsten <*> larsh@apc.tor250.org <*> MatrixSoft Development
All my life they said I was going down / but I'm still standing, stronger, proud / and today, I know there's so much more I can be / I think I finally understand - Queensryche "Someone Else?"
-- |Fidonet: Lars Hellsten 1:250/320 |Internet: larsh@tor250.org
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 07:04:57 -0700 From: q_bert@ix.netcom.com (Robert Quezada ) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: re: NOV tour dates Message-ID: <199506211404.HAA15478@ix7.ix.netcom.com>
Those dates are from last year, from what I've been told. There's a follow-up post to the original post. When I posted the dates, I wasn't sure if they were for this year. Someone told me that they were for 1994.
RQ from NJ *********************************** "...it's 100 degrees, I can't breathe."
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 11:02:03 -0500 (EST) From: BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 860 Message-ID: <01HRYRJDPV7I0003IG@sgenva.CC.GENESEO.EDU>
Hello everyone, it's Babs. Please be patient while I have a flashback to the mid-eighties:
"We sailed away, we walked a 100/1,000 (?) miles and then we slipped away...."
Wow, I remember the band Zebra (their stuff was really nice). Thanks to whoever made me have that flashback - I will have to go through my old album collection and see if I still have that. Wow!
BTW, to my buddy Tom Tubbiola - no you are not the only one old enough to remember Gamma. I remember them! Perhaps you could put them on the back of some of those wonderful tape(s) you're gonna make for me (grin).
Take care everyone, sorry to annoy anyone w/ my flashback - don't worry I don't have them that often (snicker). -BABS
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 18:05:54 GMT+100 From: "Michael Wolberg" <WOLBERG@chemie.uni-oldenburg.de> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: What's this Message-ID: <67EEFFE72AC@chemie.uni-oldenburg.de>
ROTFL ! That's somewhat funny. Like trying to say something important and your voice fails in the crucial moment...("and the last digit is....hnnngph..")
Where can I receive the "I'm the YJ-Idiot of the Week"-prize ?
bye, MiWo (hoping at least this message will be complete)
P.S.: Hi Siggi, thanks for the clue ! By the way, which word starts the self-destruction of the mailer ?
P.P.S: This is a test, please skip.
/From .From >From end FRom
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 16:33:37 GMT+0100 From: "Ken H ili" <KEN@benoni.nbr.no> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: DT & Iron Maiden + other things Message-ID: <MAILQUEUE-101.950621163337.288@benoni.nbr.no>
Somebody suggested that DT should do a Maiden cover. At first I thought "Please! No!", cause Maiden has really bored me the past few years, but then I changed my mind.
I think some of the older stuff could probably sound cool if DT did something with it. They could play "Moonchild" or anything from Maidens first three albums. Oh well, I guess it won't happen.
Now for my thoughts on the ongoing I&W / Awake debate. It seems very simple to me: they're both great albums! They're not flawless, but still great.
As for what I do, I'm working at Norway's National Library in Mo i Rana, a small town located just south of the Arctic Circle. Here I register films and film related material.
I think this post is getting to long and boring. Sorry...
Ken the Slave
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 95 10:38:52 EST From: Chris_Mahaffey@ccmail.odedodea.edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Don't Look Past Me.... Message-ID: <9505218037.AA803756332@ccmail.odedodea.edu>
Since Don't Look Past Me is probably my fav song off Subconscious at this point (sorry for those ACOS fans) I have attempted to transcribe the lyrics. I just need someone to proof this for me. My apologies if these exist somewhere out there, but I haven't seen them yet... a ( ) means I am unsure of the word/phrase.
By the way, how many of you guys know that Pat Mastelotto of KC played drums for Mr. Mister?
Flotsam & Jetsam's Quatro is good - check it out.
On the guitarist thread - Dann Huff is excellent, formerly of Giant, now back as a session dude - mostly on country!
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Don't Look Past Me
<dialog> I don't know... I feel a lot of distance and I feel far away I'll see you later...
I have seen you born before me I have watched you die I have heard every word you've said to me Leave no question in your mind There is no brighter star to guide you Don't look past me to the sun, the sun is (life) I am the sun...
So close the door behind him He wanders slowly to the car Trying to lift his heavy heart
<some dialog I can't make out, followed by...> Feel bad bout this? Just, just let me feel bad about this!
I'm through just getting by Countless times a friend has told me Watch out for the waves Now it seems the sea will be my grave And still you speak to save me Even though the water is much colder now Even though the water is much colder now
Sometimes you can act on intuition Sometimes you can use a different point of view I've found that in such a position I could always come to you <sun>I've seen you weep I have seen you tired and lonely <without you> But it only takes one heart <heart> To lift you up and send you on Can you understand the life I've shown you Understand it's me (I've given you)
I have seen you born before me I have watched you die I have heard every word you've said to me I have no question in my mind There is no brighter star to guide me Don't look past me to the sun, don't look past me to the sun, the sun is...
So love is broken (They) are asking me how and the hell When you don't even know how that feels I don't need a thousand reasons When someone starts to cry When someone says their heart needs lifting Don't ask how far ask how high
I have seen you born before me I have watched you die I have heard every word you've said to me Leave no question in your mind There is no brighter star to guide you Don't look past me to the sun, the sun is (life) Leave no question in your mind There is no brighter star to guide you Don't look past me to the sun, ( ???? )
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Thanks for hanging in there....Kevin Moore write this?
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 10:40:11 -0400 (EDT) From: An Angel's Kiss... <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Another bad trader????? Message-ID: <m0sOR3N-0002mBC@donews.cts.com>
I'm still around - I am not a bad trader - there are two people from which I had made previously and are waiting for tapes. I am in the process of doing them now - I had a REALLY bad semester and an equally bad second VCR (James Bako and Mike Burstin can vouch for this), and couldn't make them then. I posted on here that they
are going to be done soon.
I had made the mistake of not saying to you or James B. not to send me anything until you got my stuff, and I made sure I said that to another trader.
Again, I apologize and understand you're getting pissed off, but they are being done now, along with an extra thing added along, and will be there soon. If you don't trade with me again, that's fine, I wouldn't wat to trade with me either (although its easier to trade to myself).....
My apologies again,
Al Balkiewicz vocals, Half Naked
trader extraordinaire (not)
> > Has anyone had a successful trade with Al Balkiewicz? JUne 6 > was the date he promised he would get the tapes he owes me done. So > 2 weeks later nothing... No tapes, no replies to email, nothing. > > It has only been 4 months. How long does it take to hook up 2 vcrs, > push record on one and play on the other???????????? I mean I am > a busy person too, yet I got my tapes out within a week or so. > > After the first week or so he said something liek he tried to do the > tapes but the first 15 minutes of the recorded tape was blank or something. > > Looks like another Jeremy (Haynes that is since there are other Jeremy's > on the list) to me. > > I wonder if I will ever do a trade again. :( > > > > **** Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com **** > ** "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater ** > ** "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files ** > **** ****GO ORIOLES!!!!**** **** > > > >
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 10:17:12 -0500 From: Robert_Kasper_at_Main__Post__office@voyager.capmetro.austin.tx.us (Robert Kasper) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Megadeth! Message-ID: <fe81c570@voyager.capmetro.austin.tx.us>
>> How about Marty Friedman and Jason Becker! >> Does anyone have a tape or cds of Marty previous bands - Aloha >> and Hawaii?? Please let me know. Also does anyone have any live videos >> or tapes/cds of Marty's pre- Megadeth band, Cacaphony?? >> How does every feel about Megadeth?? "Time has a way of taking time and ;oneliness is not only felt by fools! Alone I called to ease the pain; yearning to be held by you... ...alone so alone - I'm lost consumed by the pain. Pain. Pain. Pain. Won't you hold me again?!? You just laughed, "Ha ha!", you BITCH! My whole life was work built on the past, time has come when all things must pass. This good thing passed away!" - In My Darkest Hour So Far, So Good, So What! Megadeth was absolutely, positively, without any 'shadow of doubt' my all time favorite band circa 1984-1989. For five long, torturous years Dave Mustaine kept on putting into words and song all the frustration and angst that inflamed my soul! _So Far, So Good, So What_ is STILL one of my favorite albums. "Mary Jane", "In My Darkest Hour", and "Liar" are superb examples of the style and attitude that made them my favorite for so long. Then, a bizarre thing happened. Jeff Young, the guitar on _SF, SG, SW?_ was taken from us before his time. Dave replaced him with your boy, Marty. (Now here's the part you're gonna flame me for...) Marty Friedman doesn't belong in that band. His style differs completely from the classic raw and angry sound that Mustaine championed so well. On _Rust in Peace_, Dave held on to his stylistic vision, except for the 'parade-ish' styles on the interlude between "Holy Wars" and "The Punishment Due" and the happy-go-lucky guitar on "Hangar 18", the album conformed quite nicely to my idea of Megadeth. "Lucretia" RULES! But with the release of _Countdown to Extinction_ and the following fiasco of _Youthanasia_, Megadeth has become 'Megadumb.' I refuse to buy the new album. If Dave kicks Marty out of the band and gets back on heroin NOW, he might be able to save his career. I await the flames of this, my personal Hell... - Rob "Beware my friends as you pass by as you are now so once was I. As I am now so you must be prepare my friends to follow me!" - Mary Jane So Far, So Good, So What? PS: Dream Theater is now, and may always be, my FAVORITE BAND! I am no longer a fan of the current Megadeth. (This is a disclaimer?)
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 15:57:10 GMT From: jskewes@metronet.com (Jason Skewes) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: FAQ Update Time Message-ID: <199506211556.AA10941@metronet.com>
Well, I figure it's about time for a new update of the FAQ.
Current plans are to have it done by July 10th.
I plan to add in info about the following:
1) Ronnie Scott's Gig 2) YTSECON 3) Info about new EP 4) Kevin Moore's Status 5) Subconscious 6) Info about obtaining T-Shirts 7) The DT / Doors connection
And ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN THINK OF!!!
Please e-mail me anything you have to contribute. The more information you can provide - the better we can make this for all DT fans!!!
Thanks!! Jason
====================================================================== Jason Skewes * 'Nervous flashlights scan my dreams. Ft Worth, TX * Liquid shadows silence their screams.' jskewes@metronet.com * DREAM THEATER - 'Under a Glass Moon' ====================================================================== Interested in trading boots....? E-Mail Me!!!!!!!!! ======================================================================
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 11:24:08 -0500 (CDT) From: nguyen john t <jtnguyen@cs.twsu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: guitarists Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950621110622.15119A-100000@emcity>
Here is a list of some of my favorite shredders (in order): John Petrucci Marty Friedman Joe Satriani Jason Becker Randy Rhoads (R.I.P.) Zakk Wylde Paul Gilbert Alex Skolnick
Petrucci - 'nuff said, he's THE guitarist of the century!!!! If you had a chance to hear any of these huys solo stuff, they're ALL incredibly AMAZING! Some people might gripe about Zakk becasue of his southern influences, but I think he's got his own thinng going that's very cool (Pride & Glory is actually a good band/album). Marty Friedman - somepeople who've listened to Cacophony might say that Jason Becker is more talented. Well, I think that Backer is TECHNICALLY more talented (only by a centimeter) but Marty Friedman is a MUCH better composer! His three solo albums are INCREDIBLE! The later two (Scenes, Introduction) are better. Friedman's musical vision is outstanding! (My feelings on Megadeth, well, the latest album isn't NEARLY as good as Rust in Peace, and Countdown). Satch - 'nuff said, he's soooooooo smooth! Jason Becker - like I said, not as musical as Friedman, mostly technical Randy - 'nuff said, he's a legend Paul Gilbert - a great guitar player, doesn't show off in MR BIG as much as his solo stuff Alex Skolnick - diving into the jazzier(yet still metal-ish) realms of the guitar after his TESTAMENT days, with a metal-ish twist, he's got a unique sound
Sorry aobut length. Later, John Nguyen
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 12:12:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Anderson/Noah Nordrum <trek221@wn.supertrek.k12.mn.us> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: TO Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9506211200.B22568-0100000@wn.supertrek.k12.mn.us>
On Mon, 19 Jun 1995, APJ wrote:
> woah! Wait a minute...JP blows Eddie Van Halen away?? Hmm, that's > a very very hard pill to swallow. How about lets just say they are > both excellent guitarists (JP probably learned a lot from Eddie also) > APJ > > What!!!! VH has minimal skills and ever since David Lee Roth left, they haven't written a decent song. JP in FAR better that VH. JP in in the same league as Satriani, and Vai, a class in which VH could only dream to belong to.
Spanky
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 95 21:17 +0300 From: Aviad Hay <aviad@mail.snunit.k12.il> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: * RE: YTSEJAM digest 859 Message-ID: <m0sOUNu-0003HFC@donews.cts.com>
>David wrote: >In response to a question on YTSEJAM #1: > >I think the singer's name is James LaBrie, but I could be wrong. Anyone else >out there wanna back me up on this?
Well Dave - I can't tell you much but I can tell you this: NOTHING'S CLOSED YET. The guys are deliberating - nothing's still permenant and the vocalist (this labrie fellow) is not a sure thing - they're gonna have to go through a lot in order to get along and stuff - but we'll keep each other posted.
Ain't the 'jam a great thing? We know everything before anybody else.
BTW: I heard Dream Theater are preparing for a third album. I can't wait.
See ya all and keep up the nose for news attidute!
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