YTSEJAM Digest 851
Today's Topics:
1) Re: The 'F' word
by Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
2) Ann Arbor
by Ben Kobashigawa <bk7585@mercury.sfsu.edu>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 850
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 850
by vanhoosr@cco.caltech.edu (Stephen D. Van Hooser)
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 850
by Anthony <AKOZAR@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU>
6) Re: alt.music.dram-theater
by whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White)
7) Lots if stuff from a lurker
by J R McCullough <jrmccull@freenet.columbus.oh.us>
8) Re: The 'F' word
by whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White)
9) Here's the Lowdown People (fwd)
by nguyen john t <jtnguyen@cs.twsu.edu>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 850
by Nathan Benjamin Meezan <cheval@leland.Stanford.EDU>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 850
by YBBX10C@prodigy.com (MISS JAIME K KIMPTON)
12) SaarbrueckenWho will be in Saarbruecken???
by wagner@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de
13) RE: midwest and german broadcast
by curth@execpc.com
14) Sadness and despair in the UK :(
by mtiplady@cix.compulink.co.uk (Mark Tiplady)
15) Re: DT show radio broadcast this weekend!!!!!!
by siggih@ibm.net (Siegfried Hanisch)
16) Re: Midwest Jammers
by omman@solar.sky.net
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 850
by BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu
18) DT show in NY
by jforte@acl.nyit.edu (Jeff Forte)
19) Malibu Show
by David Ernest Desalvo <desald@rpi.edu>
20) NJ show
by APJ <japhet@terrapin.rutgers.edu>
21) Question & Answer
by "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
22) Re: #2(2) YTSEJAM digest 850
by HuntNKill@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 20:11:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: The 'F' word
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950613201117.2865A-100000@oak.liii.com>
On Tue, 13 Jun 1995, Chris White wrote:
> > Coach Levy does not win championships, players do. The Houston
> > Oilers had a record string of trips to the playoffs up until last year, but
> > you do not here about their superior coaching. Why? Because they
> > had incredible personnel, just like us. Who can refute the fact that we
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > lost the first superbowl because of our coaching tactics? Our defense
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > played forty minutes compared to twenty for the offense. Are you
> > telling me that there was no place for a longer, time consuming Bills
> > drive in that Superbowl? I have followed the bills since the mid 70s
> > and am allowed to be cynical. I revelled in their success and
> > defended them in their 4 superbowl defeats and am entitled to say
> > that Levy is nothing great!
>
> And here I thought we lost the Super Bowl because our Defense forgot
> how to tackle... I remember a certain play where a certain receiver slipped
> oh, about 6 or 7 tackles on a third down to get a first down. No, I think
> we can blame the D for that, and not Levy. I think Levy deserves a lot
> of credit for focusing the team. Anyone remember "We have this river to
> cross, and we're not looking ahead to anything else"? Total focus, and I
> think that's the main reason for Buffalo's success (of course the players
> don't hurt ;)
> Chris
>
>
>
All this because LaBrie used the "F" word?
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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 18:26:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ben Kobashigawa <bk7585@mercury.sfsu.edu>
To: Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Ann Arbor
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950613182151.15511A-100000@mercury>
I will be heading over to Ann Arbor for eight weeks in the summer
(from San Francisco), and nothing would kick ass more than catching
a concert, or a couple of concerts that go by Ann Arbor. If anybody
catches word or anything. . .
Also, I've been wondering. On Live in Tokyo, I noticed that Kevin
Moore had something scribbled on the stand for his keyboard. Any
one else notice? Any one know what it means?
Wait for Sleep is probably not to hard for anyone whose been playing
keyboards for a while, but it would be almost impossible to figure
out what every line and harmony is. So unless Kevin Moore has taught
anyone to play it, Derek my not know how. I'm sure that Petrucci only
played the melody with a simpler harmony. Any comments?
-Jun-Dai Bates
"Are there spots in a leopard's eyes, also?"
Yume no gekijoo -The Crow
"The rain fell, like blankets of night."
bk7585@mercury.sfsu.edu -The Jester
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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 21:31:53 -0500
From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 850
Message-ID: <v01510100ac03f95cfd97@[199.232.46.229]>
> Oh, and on a DT-related issue...remember the discussion over the
>beginning of "The Mirror", and whether or not JP's guitar rhythm changes
>at all as the drums vary? It seemd to me that the consensus was that
>JP's part doesn't vary at all, but it obviously does. He is still doing
>"triplets", but which beat of the measure he starts on varies every few
>measures as MP's drum pattern changes. Sorry to drag this out again, but
>I had to say it...just HAD to...no, really I did.... =)
Oh man. Did I say that I wouldn't say anything about this? Someone has the
music book and said that it's notated in 12/8. It's common to play 4/4 with
a triplet or 12/8 feel. If you flip it and play 12/8 with a 4/4 feel,
that's The Mirror. Notice that the drums hit _only_ every beat, i.e.
nothing in between the bass and snare. But JP plays 3 notes on the first
beat. That's the triplet. It looks like this:
12 xxx-xxx-xxx-
8 B S B S
See how the drums hit every 3 eigth notes and where the guitar is playing
them? This is the most logical way to notate it even if it is hard to
count.
Marc Respass
mer@sol.iii.net
http://www.iii.net/users/mer.html
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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 18:53:43 -0800
From: vanhoosr@cco.caltech.edu (Stephen D. Van Hooser)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 850
Message-ID: <9506140253.AA00178@stanley.caltech.edu>
>Regarding the F-word in the new version of ACOS - what's the big deal???
>
>There's a band over here called The Wildhearts who totally take the piss out
>of the warning sticker business, cos they put stickers on their records saying
>
>WARNING - contains language that may offend some people even though they use
>it themselves!
>
>- I think that sums it up pretty well 8-D
I think most listeners of Dream Theater aren't looking for another heavy
metal band. Dream Theater is special, in a sacred sort of way. From what
I have seen, they tend to like Dream Theater's classic-style lyrics (which
draw heavily on allusions to mythology and history) and complex playing
style (lots of little interplays to listen to that you don't always hear
the second or third or fourth time through; classical music shares this
feature).
Images and Words really did these things well, and Awake to a lesser
extent. Profanity in a Dream Theater song sort of suggests that, yes,
Dream Theater is headed in a direction away from art-rock (and the Images
and Words style), and it's sort of a bummer in my opion.
______________________________________________________________________
Stephen D. Van Hooser MSC 903
California Institute of Technology Caltech
Fall, Winter, Spring: VanHoosr@cco.caltech.edu Pasadena, CA 91126
Summer: SVanHooser@aol.com (818)395-1324
World Wide Web Page: http://www.cco.caltech.edu/~vanhoosr/steve.html
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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 22:29:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Anthony <AKOZAR@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 850
Message-ID: <01HRO96G769M006TVJ@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU>
>
> Oh, and on a DT-related issue...remember the discussion over the
> beginning of "The Mirror", and whether or not JP's guitar rhythm changes
> at all as the drums vary? It seemd to me that the consensus was that
> JP's part doesn't vary at all, but it obviously does. He is still doing
> "triplets", but which beat of the measure he starts on varies every few
> measures as MP's drum pattern changes. Sorry to drag this out again, but
> I had to say it...just HAD to...no, really I did.... =)
>
nope.
count more carefully... there is one spot where JP SEEMS to change the rhythm
as you say, starting the three note pattern one triplet earlier.... but this
is NOT the case... if you count carefully you will find that portnoy in
the previous measure adds one triplet beat so that he is accenting one triplet
later than JP .... at the end of this section ( this is the section with the
wild guitar solo right before the vocals come in) , portnoy drops one triplet
beat , thus returning things back to normal... ( i believe that the tab book
notates the measure that adds a beat as 9/8)
*******************************************************************************
Anthony Kozar "The Divine Spirit found a sublime outlet in
Univ. of Toledo that wonder of analysis, that portent of the
1042 Acad. Ctr. ideal world, that amphibian between being
akozar@UofT02.utoledo.edu and not-being, which we call the imaginary
http://www.utoledo.edu/~akozar/ root of negative unity." -- Leibniz
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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 95 22:45:48 EDT
From: whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: alt.music.dram-theater
Message-ID: <9506140245.AA22374@mary.cs.fredonia.edu>
> Why is it not on my list? I use the News Watcher on my Mac. I see
> alt.music.progressive, but no Dream Theater. Is it a software problem or
> what???
[in regards to alt.music.dream-theater]
The reason it's not in your list is because your system administrator
isn't subscribed to it. Different sites pull in different Usenet groups.
If you want it, maybe you should try mailing the sys-admin and tell him
you'd like to be on it (personally I don't read it -- I think Ytsejam is
100X better, but that's my opinion :)
ANyway, hope this helps!
Chris
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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 22:36:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: J R McCullough <jrmccull@freenet.columbus.oh.us>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Lots if stuff from a lurker
Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9506132239.A22987-b100000@acme>
Hi guys. This is my first post, but I've been lurking
for a few weeks now. I have some questions/comments on
several topics.
1) I'm from the midwest - Columbus, Ohio. I've seen DT twice.
Once last Halloween at the Newport, and once during the I&W
tour at a small club called the Alrosa Villa. I enjoyed myself
immensely at these shows, but I must say that after hearing
what the band did on these tours later in the schedule, I feel
cheated! I guess both of these shows were at the beginning of
the tours and they hadn't had time to experiment with the
arrangements yet. Oh well. Maybe they'll come bach through
this sumer (PLEASE)!
2) What do jammers know about this topic? Will DT ever link up
with a big-time band and open? I think this would be great
exposure to large crowds. Maybe this is what they need to
launch record sales into the heavens. I'd love to see DT open
for Van Halen (they're coming to Columbus on 8/12 - got my
pavillion seats!) just so Eddie could be blown off the stage
by the new god of guitar - JP!
3) A guy asked in YJ850 about careers. I'm a technical writer
and trainer for Banc One. I went to Northwestern where I was
a 4-year member of Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia, the professional
men's music fraternity? Any Sinfonian jammers out there?
4) I agree with most people who have recently posted that Awake
is masterfully recorded. It is without a doubt, the best
sounding CD in my over 300 CD collection!
5) Finally, which of these CDs would jammers recommend? Majestic
Harmony, Kick into a Dream, Wake Up, or Dance of Eternity? I'm
very particular about sound quality, so which has the best sound?
In which one is James singing (and not yelling, as he has been
apt to do - no flames please - just IMHO!).
Sorry for the long post - but I had a lot of things to get off
my mind.
J.R.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 95 22:50:27 EDT
From: whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: The 'F' word
Message-ID: <9506140250.AA22423@mary.cs.fredonia.edu>
[Misc Bills info deleted]
> All this because LaBrie used the "F" word?
Ooops, today's not my day with the old mailer, is it? *chuckle* Guess
I must've accidentally replied to the wrong note, sorry guys! And just
a couple minutes ago, I think I accidentally sent a blank message... *sigh*
I think I better just go to sleep now. Sorry again for any of the confusion!
Chris
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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 22:52:22 -0500 (CDT)
From: nguyen john t <jtnguyen@cs.twsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Here's the Lowdown People (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950613225201.2640A-100000@emcity>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 22:51:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Dietr Miller <ytsejam@strauss.udel.edu>
To: "John T. Nguyen" <jtnguyen@kirk.cs.twsu.edu>
Subject: Here's the Lowdown People
I said the set was 2 1/2 hours, maybe I was off by 10 or twenty minutes,
but when I attempted to start a tread with my good friend John about the
differnt possiblities of the summer set list (who we all
know forward my mail because of my address problem) everybody told us to
go to hell (barring a few). They said DT was not METALLICA and didn't
have five albums out and didn't play ice hockey arenas. I am sorry I
said Fuck, Mike Patrick, but for the way people ripped into me before I
felt it nessacary. I sorry if I come off egotistical but people have to
be open mined and play along with things. Its only logic that DT plays
over a two hour set.
Hey, John Mastin, I borrowed your pen to get Derrick's Autograph.
thanks. I forgot to say hi to the four YTSEJAMMERS I met. That guy at
Micky D's is getting left out I think (You know the Indian with the I&W
t-shirt).
I think thats about it, oh Yeah, everybody tell Mike Bahr to put
the acoustic Another Day on the Unplugged.
Later Andy
You know where to reach me
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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 21:03:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Nathan Benjamin Meezan <cheval@leland.Stanford.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 850
Message-ID: <199506140403.VAA28259@elaine18.Stanford.EDU>
In the last Jam, someone wrote this:
> Oh, and on a DT-related issue...remember the discussion over the
>beginning of "The Mirror", and whether or not JP's guitar rhythm changes
>at all as the drums vary? It seemd to me that the consensus was that
>JP's part doesn't vary at all, but it obviously does. He is still doing
>"triplets", but which beat of the measure he starts on varies every few
>measures as MP's drum pattern changes. Sorry to drag this out again, but
>I had to say it...just HAD to...no, really I did.... =)
Well, I wasn't in the first argument, but I don't think the guitar part changes
at all. The drum part changes meter (well, the whole song changes meter), but
Petrucci's notes are exactly the same. They seem to be faster or something,
but that's an aural illusion caused by the drums. Oh, and he never plays
triplets; he's always playing three notes and a rest, a pattern of four.
Eg. at the beginning, it's in 4:4
guitar: X X X O X X X O X X X O X X X O (X==note, 0==rest);
drums: B S B S (B==bass drum, S==snare);
then, it's in 12:8, with the drums in four playing triplets. But the eight
notes don't change at all in the guitar part.
guitar: X X X O X X X O X X X O X X X O (X==note, 0==rest);
drums: B S B S B S (B==bass drum, S==snare);
As you can see, there's a relationship change between the guitar and drums,
from 1:1 to 2:3. But the guitar part never changes.
That's my two cents. Oh, to the guy who asked what we do, I'm an undergrad
in Mechanical Engineering. Pretty crazy for a Rush/DT fan huh? (ha ha).
Nathan Meezan
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 01:22:37 EDT
From: YBBX10C@prodigy.com (MISS JAIME K KIMPTON)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 850
Message-ID: <013.07572655.YBBX10C@prodigy.com>
Quoth Michael Martin:
> has anyone ever heard of Crimson Glory, ans if so, do you know what ever
> happened to them?
I've been a fan of CG since approximately 1988, they're one of my
_favorite_ bands and one of the first that got me into that branch of music.
I'm really not sure what happened to them - I do know they broke up after
_Strange And Beautiful_, and I believe they reformed under the moniker "Zen
Boy". I think they're still around, I have a vague memory of seeing a
letter from someone in a magazine recently raving about them.
Jaime the Dragon
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 12:09:18 +0200 (MESZ)
From: wagner@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (ytsejam)
Subject: SaarbrueckenWho will be in Saarbruecken???
Message-ID: <9506141009.AA16709@polydora.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de>
Hello german ytsejammers,
Bernd Basmer wrote some digest ago:
<<<Seems like there will be quite a lot ytsejammers in Saarbruecken...
How about a little ytse-con around there? :) Anyone interested?>>>
Of course. I will be there (if nothing comes im my way). I hope to see some
of you guys out there....
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Elisabethenstr. 42f; D-63225 Langen; Germany
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 09:39:17 -0500
From: curth@execpc.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: RE: midwest and german broadcast
Message-ID: <199506141439.JAA15961@earth.execpc.com>
Hi 'jammers,
First of all...I hope someone out in Deutschland (did I spell it right?) has a
DAT deck and I hope the station will broadcast the entire DT show cuz I sure
want a copy of it! (Thanx Ties for the post!) Anybody who is planning on
taping the show, please e-mail me!! Also, anyone who taped last night's or
the NJ gig, I'd like to hear from you too!
Okay, and to the person (sorry, don't remember who posted it) that said DT
should move to the Midwest, I say YES!! I too live in the Midwest (Milwaukee
to be exact) and think it'd be great. And hey, an added bonus, if they were
to move to Milwaukee, is all the beer around here!
Last, to M. Martin who wanted to know occupations: I finished most of my
classes for a printing program at Milwaukee Area Technical College last year
(got three academics to go B4 I can get my associates degree - yechh!) and
have been working at a Pre-press house for the last year. I work on Macs,
assembling scans with page files (provided by the customer) and outputting the
pages to film (which are used to make printing plates).
That's all for now...bye!
Scott Hansen
curth@execpc.com
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 16:10 BST-1
From: mtiplady@cix.compulink.co.uk (Mark Tiplady)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Sadness and despair in the UK :(
Message-ID: <memo.953525@cix.compulink.co.uk>
Hi everyone,
bad news for us UK 'jammers. Picked this up from the
alt.music.dream-theater newsgroup just now :-
> There will be no Dream Theater tour to the
> UK in July.
> Great sadness once again for all the fans
> in UK as we had hoped for 6 concerts after
> the European Festivals.
> Neil from the fanzine is going to New York
> to see the shows there. He will find out
> the reasons from the band themselves.
>
> Patricia McLoughlin
The infamous and much discussed F-word springs to mind :( I hope to God
they're still releasing TSM over here.
Question for Ties about this weekend's German radio broadcast - Ties (or
anyone amongst our German friends), do you know if NDR2 broadcasts over
any of the astra satellite stations? If it does any of us with dishes
will be able to pick up the show in near CD quality.
And finally...Mike you've got my vote for the Unplugged set!
Mark.
"...your arms cover me like a blanket, maybe that's all that I need"
- Kevin Moore -
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 09:57:53 CDT
From: siggih@ibm.net (Siegfried Hanisch)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: goebel@inf.fu-berlin.de
Subject: Re: DT show radio broadcast this weekend!!!!!!
Message-ID: <199506141514.AA138597@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net>
>The Rock Over Germany festival this weekend (Lueneburg) will be broadcasted
>completely (I hope) by NDR2. DT is playing on Sunday 18th.
>`jammers in north Germany (Jason!), record it!!!
>I don`t get NDR2 here in Berlin, but maybe I can find a way....
The NDR2 radio channel is also available over the ASTRA 1B satellite
(freq 11.582, polarity H, audio track stereo 7.38&7.56, no scrambling)
I will try to connect my DAT to the satellite receiver (I have never done
that before) and record the show.
Does anyone know at what time the broadcast will be, esp. when DT will
be on stage? How long will the show be (I can record max. 6 hours on one tape).
Greetings # They shoot without shame
Siegfried Hanisch # In the name of a piece of dirt
=====================================# For a change of accent
siggih@ibm.net # Or the colour of your shirt
ssaver@ibm.net (ScreenSaver support) # Better the pride that resides
=====================================# In a citizen of the world
PGP public key available # Than the pride that divides
Team OS/2 # When a colourful rag is unfurled RUSH
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 10:14:17 -0500
From: omman@solar.sky.net
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Midwest Jammers
Message-ID: <199506141514.KAA29975@sky.net>
>Minneapolis, to be exact (for the moment). While I'm on the subject,
>does anyone know when DT is due back in this area (and why Fates Warning
>won't come with them)?
Hehe...proud to say that when DT came to Kansas City back in Nov 94
Fates Warning came with them! They originally advertised the show with
I Mother Earth, but they had a change at the last minute (or week or whatever)
Great show! Too bad when I saw it I hadn't purchased Awake yet..=(
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 12:05:52 -0500 (EST)
From: BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 850
Message-ID: <01HRP1LJCAKY0007EK@sgenva.CC.GENESEO.EDU>
Hello everyone, it's Babs. Here's my 2 cents on the F word:
I made my friend Nannette go to the YTSE Convention because I didn't want
to be the only female there. Nannette is not a lover of heavy metal music
or long-haired guys, but after several years of listening to me praise DT
and after meeting them at the convention her first response was:
"What a nice bunch of guys. They were so polite and not one of them talked
trash (i.e. swore)." I told her that that was what was so great about their
music. That it's epic and deep. When I talked to her on the phone last
night I told her about how they put the F word in ACoS. She thinks that we
should start a petition to get it taken out of there (giggle). Upon further
deliberation we both concluded that we will let it slide this time, but
if behavior like that continues further action will be warranted.
Ok everyone - let the flames begin.
-BABS
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 12:59:02 -0400
From: jforte@acl.nyit.edu (Jeff Forte)
To: Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT show in NY
Message-ID: <95061412590247@acl.nyit.edu>
Hey everyone...the show last night was unreal. I wont go over the set
list again since it was pretty much the same as the other nights show.
One major complaint about the show....it was WAY TOO LOUD. It made the
points where LaBrie hit his high notes unbareable if not impossible to listen
to. The sound was pretty good otherwise. The acoustic Wait For Sleep was just
perfectly played (hopefully they will do that as a future B-side or something).
Im not sure about the changes they made to ACOS. Id have to hear it
again because my view on a song tends to change after i hear it a couple of
times. I do agree with the fact that they slowed it down a little. (Doesnt
start out as intense as it used to). I am upset because the lyrics that they
changed were the lyric parts that i like.
Another shock is that they didnt playTake the Time or Another Day.
Anyone know why?
At on point during LSOAD. Derek hit a really bad note and LaBrie gave
him a look like "what the fuck was that". Derek just grinned and kept playing.
Also during LTL, During the part in the middle where its all piano (sounds like
a sped up wait for sleep). Derek really screwed up...stopped....and then
restarted that part again. People around me groaned...but i said..." give the
guy a break look at all the stuff he has learned in a short period of time.
They did say that they would be back in a month to play the NYC area
again...:) I just hope they turn it down a little. I know this review sounds
kinda negative...but it definitely was one of the best shows ive been to.
Anyone want to know anything more specific just mail me....
Later
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Jeff Forte jforte@acl.nyit.edu
"Heaven must be more than this, when angels waken with a kiss,
sacred hearts won't take the pain, but mine will never be the same."
--Kevin Moore
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 13:46:57 -0400
From: David Ernest Desalvo <desald@rpi.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Malibu Show
Message-ID: <199506141746.NAA08140@rebecca.its.rpi.edu>
This is my first time posting to this list although I've been reading for
some time. My reason for writing is the show last night at Malibu in Long
Island. This was my first DT show and it was unbelievable!! I know others
will give a more detailed review so I'll be short.
1) La Brie was exceptional - I have a few bootlegs and he sounded incredibly
better than he does on any recording I have.
2) Derek was good all night except that his one obvious mistake came at the
worst possible time. During the encore they were playing LTL, and right when th
e piano breaks into WFS, he lost his timing and had to stop and restart. OOPPS!
Overall, a fabulous show.
PS Portnoy said that they would be returning in a month or so....So will I!!
Until then....
Dave
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 14:03:32 -0400
From: APJ <japhet@terrapin.rutgers.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: NJ show
Message-ID: <199506141803.OAA02695@terrapin.rutgers.edu>
Well a lot of other people have all ready given their reviews on
the show, I guess I can give mine also :) Thankfully, they remebered
the set of songs better than I do.
First off, I know this will probably upset a lot of you, but I have
to say it anyhow: I (and my friends) thought Echolyn SUCKED. I mean,
these guys sound like they have some musical talent as far as playing
their instruments go, but their melodys seem so convoluted and messed
up, it really strained my ears. I had to go outside.
Second, the long wait for DT sucked. Just thought I'd get that off
my shoulders also (fuck 104.3 also, I've never heard you play DT).
Onto DT! My first time seeing them live and well worth it! What I
really liked about the show was how they played the songs that run
together well on the album (ie, Mirror -> Lie, A Mind Beside Itself
(the whole thing), Wait for Sleep -> Learning to Live). I really
liked the acoustic Wait for Sleep and Silent Man (doin' that Mr.
Big thing, Portnoy is hilarious). They also played the FULL entire
version of LtL, which is one of my favs, along w/ Under a Glass
Moon (Petrucci's solos rocked, as always). Hey and Petrucci doesn't
look overweight anymore, like he did on the pix in Awake. As for
Change of Seasons...I dunno, can't say I was disappointed, 'cuz it
sounded really cool, but it kinda sucks to have to hear it for
the first time live after standing in that place for like 6 hours.
It'll probably mean more after I listen to it on the album and get
to know it a little better. PS, La Brie said the album would be out
sometime in Sept, including some live stuff taken from some shows in
England (or was it Europe, I forget). Anyhow, 'nuff for now.
APJ
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 14:37:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytse jam)
Subject: Question & Answer
Message-ID: <199506141837.OAA04186@grex.cyberspace.org>
Hey Jammerz,
First a Question: I read in "Guitar for the Practicing
Musician" magazine and while back that JP and Steve Morse recorded a track
together for a compilation album. Of course, I can't find that issue. Does
anyone know if this track exists? and if so, what is the name of the album.
Now an answer: to the question fo what we jammerz do for a living,
I currently am trying to make ends meet while a freind and I are starting
up a recording studio in Ypsilanti, MI. Slated to open aprrox. Spring '96.
-John
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 17:26:40 -0400
From: HuntNKill@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: #2(2) YTSEJAM digest 850
Message-ID: <950614172639_70814602@aol.com>
In a message dated 95-06-13 22:24:34 EDT, you write:
>One question for all you YTSE-Jammers...what do you all do? I
>know some are students, but for what? And for those of you with
>careers,
>what would they be? I was just curious...one DT concert I was at had
>
>several people in shirts and ties listening, and we all know that DT
>is
>far more sophisticated tham most bands (with many classical touches
>theory-wise), so I was just curious to hear what walks of life you
>all
>come from.
Well, I just graduated High School, and I'll be going to Columbia University
School of Engineering and Applied Science this fall. Hope that helps!
Yours,
Jeff =)
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