YTSEJAM Digest 730
Today's Topics:
1) YTSE Convention Date
by BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu
2) SPRUCE STREET REVIVAL IN NYC
by Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 727
by Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
4) Re: alone
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
5) Nightmare band!!!
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
6) Re: "best" drummer; mixing & production; Awake cover
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
7) Re: Galactic Cowboys, Kings X, Precious Death, Steve Taylor...
by "DANIEL JAMES TEMMESFELD" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
8) Re: DAVE GROHL SUCKS. thank you
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
9) Re: DAVE GROHL SUCKS. thank you
by John B Ashcraft <jbashcra@uncc.edu>
10) NIGHTMARE BAND
by Michael Herring <mpherrin@mtu.edu>
11) Ytse-Con in Phoenix, AZ
by Michelle Garcia <garcia@sluggo.sdsc.edu>
12) sorry for babbling :)
by kad@iris122.biosym.com
13) Re: Cairo (non-DT related)
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
14) Re: "best" drummer; mixing & production; Awake cover
by John B Ashcraft <jbashcra@uncc.edu>
15) Hot Band
by PBERESFO@EOS.WINCOM.NET (Paul Beresford)
16) Kevin Moore
by PBERESFO@EOS.WINCOM.NET (Paul Beresford)
17) my big post
by Michael Van Opstall <mavanop@grfn.ORG>
18) silent man
by Ricky Booth <rbooth@galaxy.galstar.com>
19) Re: Sorry, Nyquist again
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
20) Re: "best" drummer; mixing & production; Awake cover
by William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
21) Nyquist Limit
by drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
22) OH NO! NOT AGAIN!
by Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
23) Dream Band and Controversy
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu>
24) Lyrics...
by Race4Food@aol.com
25) KM Demo, Jason Becker...
by Brian M Polka <rycher@ksu.ksu.edu>
26) re: live mix
by Jarrod Kamsey-Lewis <jarrodk@up.edu>
27) DT POLL RESULTS (finally)
by AirDance@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 1995 11:19:46 -0500 (EST)
From: BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: YTSE Convention Date
Message-ID: <01HNNPU71FV6000FEP@sgenva.CC.GENESEO.EDU>
Hello ytse's, it's Babs. I think that I forgot to tell you that the target
date for the convention is Saturday, June 17. It was the best date available
since I had all those weddings to compete with. Also, I just remembered that
Father's Day is June 18 - so you will all be free for that. -BABS
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 11:29:38 -0500 (EST)
From: Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
To: Mike Ingenthron <MikeOAT1@aol.com>
Cc: Josh Hadden <JTHadden@pipeline.com>, babs <BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu>,
Subject: SPRUCE STREET REVIVAL IN NYC
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.90.950302112238.27420C-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
This is a mass mailing.
I just got the word from our drummer that our band will be playing in
NEW YORK CITY!
THE DATE: Next Thursday (March 9th)
THE TIME: 10-ish
WHERE : The R-Bar, 273 Church St. (Between Franklin & White)
HOW MUCH: No Cover, to my knowledge.
For those of you who have never heard us, let me just describe the band;
It's a hybrid between Phish, The Grateful Dead, Kansas, The Allman Bros.
and varied Blues influences.
If you're in the NYC area (and some of you are, which is why you got this
mailing!) please try to stop in. It would be appreciated.
Any Questions? Send email to me (hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu), and
I'll answer them the best that I can.
Thanks!
A very excited Hairball
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 11:46:07 -0500 (EST)
From: Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 727
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.90.950302112946.27420D-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
> to be on I&W. I don't think there's any musical room for louder or more
> aggressive bass.
This is true - however, with proper mixing, there can be.
> From: Michael Herring <mpherrin@mtu.edu>
> Subject: Production/Recording
> There has been a lot of traffic on the list about this field and I
would like to get as much information as I can get.
> John Kotzian
Well, there's several good publications around. There's books
written on studio building. And, again, I'd highly recommend Stanley
Alten's "AUDIO IN MEDIA" textbook. Regardless of how much or little you
know about it, you'll learn something.
It's published by Wadsworth Publishing Company, Belmont, CA
94002. Its ISBN # is 0-534-19602-0.
> From: Dario M Zagar <dmz2@columbia.edu>
> Subject: production, etc.
> Hey, guys, what's Up? Just wanted to express my extreme pleasedness
> (hey, did I make that up?) with this production thread.
> Thanks again goes to Hairball for the insight.
Thanks for the kind words. I'm very appreciative. =)
Cyas...
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 10:09:54 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: alone
Message-ID: <14525BF6788@UCS.ISU.EDU>
>Damn! Maybye I'll go to Arizona instead of Idaho for my
^^^^^
>summer vacation. I think I could scrape up a few cool
>jammers-in-spirit to come along for the ride. Too bad its
>so fucking hot in Southern AZ during the summertime. Oh
>shit! Thanks for the DOL CD Mike, I like it. Sorry about
>being so brain dead that I forgot to thank you 'till now.
>Zach
Forget Arizona, come here! Come on! I'm all alone up here!!!
ChucK
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 08:38:33 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Nightmare band!!!
Message-ID: <143A0043C1B@UCS.ISU.EDU>
>Now that this dream band stuff has come up again, I thought I'd
>flamebait a bit and name my NIGHTMARE BAND. So ladies and gentlemen
>(drumroll, please):
>Timo
This seems like a great way to attract some flames...
Here's mine...
Vocals -- Milli Vanilli (Heh, heh, what vocals?)
Backup vocals -- Salt n' Pepa (ICK!)
Lead guitar -- Garth Brooks (Lot's of rippin' shit here...)
Rhythm guitar -- Billy Jo (from Green Day, I think that's his name)
Bass -- This one kid I saw in a music store who thought he was really
cool, until I played Anasthesia and he bowed to me.
Drums -- They'll just use a drum machine...
Heh, heh.
ChucK
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 10:14:32 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: "best" drummer; mixing & production; Awake cover
Message-ID: <14539981487@UCS.ISU.EDU>
>This isn't intended to be a flame, just some information...
>I usually don't care all that much about spelling, but after
>seeing it spelled "Zonders" several times, and now seeing
^^^^^^^ (Heh, I have a knack for misspelling
drummers names:)
>his first name typed as "Matt," I just think it's
^^^^ My drummer's first name!
>about time everyone knew that the drummer from Fates Warning's name
>is
> Mark Zonder
>And he's my favorite drummer. If you want to know why, listen
>to Point of View (from Parallels) and Monument (from Inside Out.)
I love Point of View, my favorite FW song! I've still yet to get
Inside Out though.
>I also really like Fates' old drummer, Steve Zimmerman, and
>his work on No Exit is, in my opinion, some of the best produced
>drumwork out there. The snares just hit *so* hard...
The drums on this, IMHO, are better than any other of their albums.
(But I've still got one chance left for Inside Out).
ChucK
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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 1995 12:42:00 -500 (EST)
From: "DANIEL JAMES TEMMESFELD" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Galactic Cowboys, Kings X, Precious Death, Steve Taylor...
Message-ID: <2F5605B5.0CD8.7081.000@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
Re: drummers, GC, etc
>2. Sorry to hear about the G. Cowboys breaking up. Is this rumor
>or is this really true?
I sure hope it's not. I *just* got into them about a couple of
months ago, and heard that they were searching for a label...
>By the way, I like the recent post someone made about some of the
>ex-GC guys jamming with the boys from King's X. I'm a big GC and
>KX fan.
I like King's X and Galactic Cowboys a lot, too. I heard about a
concert with Galactic Cowboys, King's X, and Precious Death. That
show would have rocked. For those who don't know about Precious
Death, they are a band much like GC and KX, but they're on Metro One
Records (mainly constrained to distribution in the Christian
bookstores...). They are very similar to GC and King's X. Check 'em
out- their 2 albums _Southpaw_ and _If You Must_ were also
distributed by Sony for a bigger market. (I hear that the concert
was a "side thing.")
>That would be one awesome session.
Yeah, too bad I'm from Ohio and never get to see those guys.
>3. Whoever posted about Steve Taylor, count me in. I've been a
>fan since "I Want to Be a Clone". Remember the song "Lifeboat"?
>Speaking of great Christian bands, anybody ever heard of Daniel
>Amos (aka Swirling Eddies)?
I posted about Steve Taylor. I'm also a long time fan. Weird, I
would have never guessed that 3 Dream Theater fans (there's my DT
content;-) like Steve Taylor too.
>Clarke
Dan Temmesfeld
s1133627@cedarville.edu
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 11:58:13 -0600 (CST)
From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: DAVE GROHL SUCKS. thank you
Message-ID: <199503021758.LAA09771@galaxy.galstar.com>
> This is the best series of books that you can find. My favorite one
> has been Elven Star. I never got past the 5th book, though, my
> library still hasn't got the other two in...
Yes! the second book Elven Star has been my favorite so far also! A)
Because Zifnab is a predominant character, and B) Weis and Hickman craft
such a great story, so sad, yet just funny enough to remind you that the
authors aren't depression maniacs. :)
However my friend swears that book 6 is the best. I just started it. Some
interesting twists right at the beginning of the book! We find out a
little more about what Xar has up his sleve and that he isn't as powerful
or all-knowing as we though. Just go buy book 6, i've bough every 1-6,
but will probably check out 7 if it isn't out in paperback when I am
ready to read it.
Again, all Ytsejamers! If you like reading books, read the Death Gate
cycle. Weis and Hickman are masterful authors.
> =) =) Sorry for the total absence of DT content (= (= ChucK
Yeah, uh, me too. :)
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 13:17:25 -0500
From: John B Ashcraft <jbashcra@uncc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: DAVE GROHL SUCKS. thank you
Message-ID: <199503021817.NAA08731@unccsun.uncc.edu>
Holy shit I can't beleive you guys have read the death Gate Cycle!!! I love
that series!! My favorite is probably either Elvin Star or Into The
Lybrynth!!
Sorry of the Non DT but this is just to cool!!!
Trey
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 95 13:19:29 EST
From: Michael Herring <mpherrin@mtu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: NIGHTMARE BAND
Message-ID: <9503021819.AA02059@maxwell11.ee.mtu.edu>
You want NIGHTMARE BANDS now, I got one: Dark Angel. I've heard their debut album and they boasted the most riffs on an album ever. It does, but their is no consisitency, the singer could be good, but can't find a melody over a million riffs. This band is by far a Nightmare.
-MPH
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 10:22:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Michelle Garcia <garcia@sluggo.sdsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Ytse-Con in Phoenix, AZ
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9503021012.C709-0100000@sluggo.sdsc.edu>
> > Yeah, I hear ya about those space limitations... I would actually
> > be happy to host a Ytsejam-con in Phoenix (Chandler) Arizona, but since
> > it's so far from EVERYTHING... ah well. Damn shame, too. I have the whole
> > house available to me for it, and a huge TV set and awesome stereo system
> > (with FOUR, count'em FOUR hi-fi VCRs and two dual-cassette decks).. all
> > the stereo equipment is in different rooms but I could put together an
> > "electronics wall" for Jammers to do their trading and listening on. But
> > how many people here could feasibly come all the way out to Arizona for
> > what would essentially be a weekend-long party? I would have good beer
> > available too.. :)
> >
> > Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com
Oh YEAH! I'm so there, I used to go to Phoenix every summer and enjoy the
126 degree weather with my family. Count me in. Does anyone know how long
it takes to drive there from San Diego or L.A.? We could rent cars and
carpool it on over.
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Michelle Garcia {{{{}}}} University of California, San Diego
San Diego Supercomputer Center USA email: garcia@sdsc.edu
{
"As a child, I thought I could live without pain
without sorrow..." - John Petrucci, DREAM THEATER }
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On Thu, 2 Mar 1995, Zack Gemmill wrote:
> >
>
> Damn! Maybye I'll go to Arizona instead of Idaho for my
> summer vacation. I think I could scrape up a few cool
> jammers-in-spirit to come along for the ride. Too bad its
> so fucking hot in Southern AZ during the summertime. Oh
> shit! Thanks for the DOL CD Mike, I like it. Sorry about
> being so brain dead that I forgot to thank you 'till now.
>
> Zach
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 02 Mar 95 10:22:28 -0800
From: kad@iris122.biosym.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: sorry for babbling :)
Message-ID: <199503021822.KAA12010@iris122.biosym.com>
Ok, since I was asked for an opinion on YTSECON, I would agree with the
suggestion that we should go with the smaller, regional gatherings for
now, so we can get to know each other, throw some ideas around and get
better organized for a large scale thing. I am all for Southern Cali
ytsecon, I think I've met all San Diego area ytsejammers by now (if
there is somebody in SD I don't know yet, please speak up! ;) a couple
from LA as well, so I know there are a lot of really cool people around
here. And!!! If we do that... we might have a wonderful visitor from
Canada as well! (Hi Tim! :)
In YTSEJAM digest 727, Mats Rydstrom writes:
> We previously talked about the lyrics to the mirror and said that "how on
> earth could you possibly..." would fit better than "how the hell..." or
> whatever he sings. When hearing DT perform the Mirror live last tuesday I
> think I heard just that one lyric-line changed. Yep, I'm 80% sure
You're kidding! Yeah, I was the one who suggested that line would sound
better with "on earth" the first time instead of "the hell". I thought it
would not only sound better but give an interesting contrast with the
meaning. I didn't get the impression that anybody agreed with me though :)
Anyways, I would be really interested in hearing it since this line always
bugged me somehow.
> I saw Queensryche live last Sunday and I must say that if there's anyone
> that really is god, it's Geoff Tate!
Yes!!! Can't agree more! Geoff is absolutely DIVINE! :) Sorry for developing
a non-DT subject here but I have a quick question and since on Screaming In
Digital there are no set lists postings allowed anymore (ARGHHH!!!), I have
to ask if it is true that QR is playing Neue Regel on this tour... it is
essential for me to know since it is my all time fave song. I'm DYING to
hear/see it LIVE!
Thanks for any info,
Kinga
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 12:28:19 -0600 (CST)
From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Cairo (non-DT related)
Message-ID: <199503021828.MAA10297@galaxy.galstar.com>
> I'm quite surprised that nobody has discussed Cairo's new (first) CD
> before. The album is out for 4 weeks now or so.
> It's a great album in the veign of Kansas, Shadow Gallery, Magallon,
> Yes, Saga, IQ and King Crimson. Some solo's remind me of DT however.
> The album has 6 (long) songs on it. The best one (IMO) is 'Silent
> Winter'; it has some great parts. The last song, which lasts for over
> 20 mins., does remind me of King Krimson and DT.
> Somebody else on this list has this album?
> (BTW: it's on the Magna Carta label)
> Cairo has contact with their fans on internet. Anyone got their
> address?
> Cheers,
Damn, this band sounds great! Can they be found at a local store, or mail
order only? Where'd you get your copy? Also, isn't Echolyn's new CD
coming out soon? If so, when, and will it be available at records stores too?
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 13:28:55 -0500
From: John B Ashcraft <jbashcra@uncc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: "best" drummer; mixing & production; Awake cover
Message-ID: <199503021828.NAA09000@unccsun.uncc.edu>
In the progressive rock/metal regime, the arena is no clearer. There's
Neil, of course. His technical style is well documented and imitated. Yet
there is a musical flavor that is so very uniquely Neil's. He draws the
listener to every subtlety in each roll and fill, and he knows when to
'cut loose' and when to reserve himself (or not overplay, in any case!).
His lyric-writing and composition skills are exemplary.<<<<<<<<<<<
I know exactly what you mean about hearing all of his subtleties. My best
friend and I worship Peart. And there is this drum part that is so subtle
but it is so awesome that every time we hear the song we go crazy over the
part, espically when we heard them live!!! The part is in Animate. It is
right after Geddy sings "My counterpart my foolish heart a man must learn
rule his tender part" then E Neil Hits one of his toms 4 times and
then three bass beats. This part happens very quickly but I think it is
a great example of what you are talking about.
Just my 2 cents.
Trey
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Date: 02 Mar 95 13:55:35 EST
From: PBERESFO@EOS.WINCOM.NET (Paul Beresford)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Hot Band
Message-ID: <E2CB552F016C1173@-SMF->
Hi everyone ,
Just to let you know I heard on the radio (WRIF) a Detroit station 101.1
that Journey is back together with it's orignal line-up , Greg Rolie was
taking and said he's still talking to Steve Perry and hopefully he will
come back to the project. They are planing to have a CD and also tour by
this summer. Has anyone else heard anything on this subject?
Later, Paul Beresford
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Date: 02 Mar 95 13:58:18 EST
From: PBERESFO@EOS.WINCOM.NET (Paul Beresford)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Kevin Moore
Message-ID: <E3CB552F016C1173@-SMF->
Does Kev have an e-mail address if so does any one know it , I would
really like to converse with him on some keyboard arrangements and
sounds.
Thanks and later,Paul Beresford
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 14:09:49 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Van Opstall <mavanop@grfn.ORG>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: my big post
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.950302140624.28128C-100000@freenet.grfn.org>
I'm quoting myself here because I mistyped the address and got a return
to sender: I really wrote this myself!
> The original message was received at Thu, 2 Mar 1995 14:02:27 -0>
> I love the sound of the bass on WDADU.
>
> Maybe it sucks production-wise (I can tell that it does suck) but I sort
> of like it, especially the super bad tone on the bass "solo" near the end
> of "Killing Hand" The sampled "I can't see where this is going" in
> "Light Fuse and Get Away" does suck though. It is not at all clear.
> Charlie Dominici is pretty cool, I've heard James sing OAMT and Afterlife
> on the Milan 1993 boot, and it sucks, probably just because the singing
> on the whole thing sounds rotten.
>
> If you really want to hear the bass, just listen to the end of "Lie", the
> beginnings of LSOAD and Scarred, and CIAW over and over again.
>
> Dream Band (while I'm at it):
> Vocals: Geoff Tate (just kidding) Christopher Scott
> Guitars: Three of 'em: Petrucci, Mike Phillips & George Ochoa
> Bass: J. Myung
> Keyboards: M. Van Opstall (with occasional guitar stuff too)
> Drums: Ted Kirkpatrick
>
> Just my 2 cents on what's going on now: I sort of like the Dream Band
> thing, I like the Awake cover discussion, I LOVE LONG POSTS!, technical
> recording stuff is cool. Anyone on this list that also gets the Don
> Digest is cool (just send me e-mail if you want to be as cool).
>
> Now lets discuss the covers of WDADU (who is that guy, a young JP?) and
> I&W (is that really the mirror from awake?).
> My long post ! YEAH! Sorry if you don't like it.
>
> M.A. VanOpstall
> mavanop@grfn.org
> "I'll smile and I'll try to pretend, and I'll never be open again"
> -Space-Dye Vest, Dream Theater
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 13:26:24 -0600 (CST)
From: Ricky Booth <rbooth@galaxy.galstar.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: silent man
Message-ID: <199503021926.NAA11380@galaxy.galstar.com>
AWAKE cover stuff:
I know where the silent man is. It's not on the cover though! It's on the
inside where the band pics are. The Silent Man is the pic of John Myung.
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 11:58:44 PST
From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Sorry, Nyquist again
Message-ID: <199503021958.LAA13268@netcom13.netcom.com>
Yees... you are correct... I was thinking of the other limit...
-The Doc
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 15:04:05 -0500 (EST)
From: William T Bajzek <impaler+@CMU.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: "best" drummer; mixing & production; Awake cover
Message-ID: <0jJWGp600YUzIHK9UQ@andrew.cmu.edu>
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Organization: Aepithex (guitars)
i also get annoyed by seeing dance of eternity as dances of eternity
but you sleep like a ghost with me -william bajzek- come to my madness
its as simple as that -http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu- my opium den
so tell me i'm mad -/u/wb2a/home--/cdsale-/reviews- come to my madness
roll me up and breathe me in -guitars,aepithex- make sense of it again
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 12:10:45 PST
From: drkhoe@netcom.com (Dr. Mosh)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Nyquist Limit
Message-ID: <199503022010.MAA14683@netcom13.netcom.com>
Yes... to my error... I was thinking of some other thing, that I can't
even remember the name of now... The Nyquist is indeed twice the sampling
frequency of the highest frequency you are attempting to sample, therefore
the 44.1Khz for digital sampling to 20khz maximum frequency response.
There is a Yamaha DAT that does sample at 96Khz, effectively having a FR
of twice that range, although I don't know how it deals with aliasing.
Aliasing is the sampling of higher or lower harmonics into the digital
sample.
The minimum SPL that a human can hear is 0db at 3000hz, the threshold of
audibility. And the threshold of pain is 140db.
-The Doc
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 15:37:10 -0500 (EST)
From: Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: OH NO! NOT AGAIN!
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.90.950302153327.11778K-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
Yeah, but, I'll make this brief.
I was speaking with one of my former audio instructors about the Myung
Bass controversy. He, having not heard the records, seemed to think that
my theory was plausable, but, would be the result of either "a bad
engineer" or something "that producers do sometimes, for whatever reason."
Further, seeing as this guy is a "purist" - i.e. he hates 6 string
basses, 7 String guitars, and is really into producing/recording jazz,
said "too much compression squashes your frequency response." This,
admittedly is one of compression's shortcomings.
Ah well. More techno-babble later, I suppose.
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 16:29:03 -0500 (EST)
From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu>
To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Dream Band and Controversy
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.950302155217.72414A-100000@moose.uvm.edu>
Since everyone is so keen on posting their dream bands, I figured
I would surrender to the peer pressure:
Lead Vocals: Sebastian Bach (Skid Row)
Backing Vocals and Acoustic Guitar: Jani Lane (Warrant)
Lead Guitar: Eddie Van Halen (hmm....)
Rhythm Guitar and Backing vocals: Nuno Bettencourt (Extreme)
Keys: Bruce Hornsby (sp?)
Bass: Billy Sheehan (Mr. Big)
Drums: Tommy Lee (Motley Crue)
Lyrics: Stevie Blaze (Lillian Axe) and John Petrucci
This album put together by these guys would *have* to be produced
by either Bob Rock or Michael Wagner.
And while I'm at the computer, I might as well degrade myself
even further by participating in the Portnoy/Peart Controversy. While I
agree that in the cosmic sense, musicians are of equal value, I can't
help but be drawn the Portnoy's style over Peart's. I am not a big fan
of Rush to begin with (though I do like some of their songs) and most of
the reason is Peart's sound. What he is playing is obviously challenging
and well-suited to the song, but his drum sound is lacking of, well, balls.
That's probably why until the last Metallica album (which I do not own) I
was not praticularly impressed with Lars. Also, although Neil plays for
the song, it pretty much stops there. He has his moments of flash
but they are so sparce that, in my opinion, they are almost out of place.
Maybe that was wrong choice of words. They just take me by surprise in a
slightly negative way. However, I will admit that the man is incredible.
But Portnoy is another story. He is much more over-the-top and,
quite honestly, a lot more fun to listen to then Peart. His playing is as
dynamic as a roller-coaster ride and immediately commands attention
without detracting from the other member's contributions. Maybe it's
because of my hard rock background, but I love flashy drummers. While I
have never seen Rush live, the personality conveyed by Neil's playing
doesn't seem to lend itself to this type of atmosphere, which is fine.
I'm not saying that Portnoy is *better* than Peart, just that I enjoy
what he plays more and find myself in awe of Portnoy, contrasted with the
mere respect I have for Peart. It's rather like choosing friends: some
people you just have better connection with than others. That doesn't
mean that one is a better person than the other, however. All right, I'm
done. Sorry for the long post but I got carried away.
Richie "Still Trying to Learn the Second Half of Metropolis" Rivera
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 16:30:58 -0500
From: Race4Food@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Lyrics...
Message-ID: <950302163057_37290397@aol.com>
Hello everyone, first time caller and short time listener but don't fret, I
love Dream Theater. The one thing I'd like to discuss would be the lyrics of
Dream Theater. They put a lot of effort and time into their music and I feel
the same about their lyrics. The lyrics are powerful but can easily be
misunderstood. I myself donot fully understand every word and I'm open to any
one's interpertation. Let's talk about Space-Dye Vest off of their latest,
Awake. It's Kevin's tune and the song is obviously about a relationship once
had. During the first break in the song there is dialogue of man explaining
how his love is true and anothers is false. What I'm trying to figure out is
who is doing the talking? Could it be Kevin in the sense that he is trying to
convince this girl that it's his love that is true or is it his nemisis who
is trying to convince this girl that Kevin's love is the false. Anyone?
Mike : )
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 18:47:04 -0600 (CST)
From: Brian M Polka <rycher@ksu.ksu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: KM Demo, Jason Becker...
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9503021826.A13138-0100000@abc.ksu.ksu.edu>
Hey there,
It's been a long time since I read my e-mail and an even longer time
since I posted so forcive me if this gets long. I have an announcement
first of all. My address as a Demo site has changed, anybody in the
midwest wanting one should get a hold of me at Rycher@unix.ksu.edu now
:-) I'd be happy to copy for anyone.
Second of all, I was wondering if anybody online had info on the
condition of Jason Becker. For those who don't know, he was this guitar
virtuoso (at least in my mind) that at the age of 18 or 19 devolped ALS.
He did a lot of work with Marty Friedman back when shred was king. (Yes,
I admit, I'm a closet shredder and I'm proud I say, proud ;-)) They had a
absloutely flawlesses chemistry in the band Cacophony and there solo
efforts were phenominal. He was suppose to release an album produced via
computers, old demos, and some playing done by another incredible
Shrapnel Shredder Micheal Lee Firkins. I haven't heard about him at all
lately and I never got the chance to meet Marty Friedman after the
Megadeth show. :-( Oh well... hopefully one of you may know more. By the
way, anybody wanting to trade copies of Jason and Marty's work in
Cacophony and their solo albums for something like a boot, let me know.
Finally, my dream band would be as follows...
Guitars: JP, Marty Friedman, and Jason Becker (back when he could :'( )
Bass: JM
Keyboards: KM
Drums: MP, Nick Menza
Vocals: Geoff Tate
Thanks again,
Brian
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 16:45:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Jarrod Kamsey-Lewis <jarrodk@up.edu>
To: DREAM THEATER <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: re: live mix
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950302163946.2652A-100000@upsun16.up.edu>
I too was at the concert held at the Roseland Theater in
Portland, OR. I'd have to agree that James' voice was difficult to hear,
but none the less I was very impressed. I also had no trouble hearing
Derek. I'm one of those people who like a loud show, so maybe that's why
I wasn't as dissapointed as you.
I also thought it was really cool at the show when James put on
that guys hat.
Oh, I too brought a friend with me who was not too familiar with
DT. He is now a huge DT fan who regularly plays DT on his radio show. He
was mainly influenced by the show that DT put on.
Jarrod Ramsey-Lewis
University of Portland
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Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 19:57:59 -0500
From: AirDance@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT POLL RESULTS (finally)
Message-ID: <950302195738_37508965@aol.com>
Hi everyone,
Paul Holloway has been having some problems sending mail to the list, so he
asked me to forward the DT poll results he compiled to Ytse Jam in his
behalf. Enjoy! :)
Jennifer
<airdance@aol.com>
"Heaven is empty you'll find out it's a wonderful story..."
Kevin Moore/_Normal Words_
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From: pjhollow@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Holloway)
* * * * Official Dream Theater Song Poll Results - Winter '95 * *
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[Overall Rankings: Music and Lyric scores averaged]
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