YTSEJAM Digest 741
Today's Topics:
1) prog music
by basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer)
2) Re: Tesla...nightmare band? -some DT content-
by pandora <pandora@u.washington.edu>
3) Blood on the Bricks
by William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca>
4) DT in London
by Jeremy Longley <jcl1008@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
5)
by E_PATTON@HUSKY1.STMARYS.CA
6) Some Extreme content
by Hemispheres <bdon@wam.umd.edu>
7) YtseJam Guitar
by alper ince <e064273@narwhal.cc.metu.edu.tr>
8) re: re: new bootleg cd...
by YBBX10C@prodigy.com (MISS JAIME K KIMPTON)
9) Still more various B.S.
by Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
10) me in the nightmare band?
by "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tam2000.tamu.edu>
11) Silent Man Single CD
by APJ <japhet@remus.rutgers.edu>
12) Re: MTV
by ALVAREZ1@AppleLink.Apple.COM (Alvarez, Paul)
13) DREAM IN PROGRESS!
by Kuniyuki OGUSHI <s7091019@ipc.akita-u.ac.jp>
14) My first post (if it works)(not all DT related)
by BRIL@morgan.com
15) Space-Dye Vest
by Rulon Clark <SL162@cc.usu.edu>
16) super mario DT
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
17) Blood on the Bricks
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
18) Skid Row (Little DT content)
by BOB HOLDER <BH7314@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA>
19) Dream Band
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
20) Re:Rabin/Howe and opinions
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
21) ALBATROSS!!!
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
22) Stuff
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
23) Stuff
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
24) First MTV video
by stern.35@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Stern)
25) Silent Man
by Michael Van Opstall <mavanop@grfn.ORG>
26) My first post (if it works)(not all DT related)
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
27) Space-Dye Vest
by "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
28) Re: First MTV song...
by Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 95 10:44:06 +0100
From: basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: prog music
Message-ID: <9503080944.AA06488@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
Hey guys!
I have another item I'd like to discuss here on this list
and (drummmmmmms) I think it's DT related...
So, how do you define 'PROG MUSIC'?
Is it just music with many unexpected breaks in it?
Is it music with many changes in songstructure, harmonies, tempi, ...
Is FW other prog than DT??
On this list there was mentioned QR is doing prog music too and
if that's true, where do you find the prog elements in the music
of QR?
Earlier I used to think that prog music was music that is based
on instrumental complicated structures and vocals 'running against'
the instruments. When I heard DT then, I noticed, that you can call
this prog too although there is a 'normal' song structure and not
just incredible breaks added to oneanother. Now I think that prog
music is (somehow) intelectuel music because it's based on intelligent
song writing and arrangements. Can you agree to this?
I hope this wasn't discussed on this list before and I could
perhaps give you one more interesting theme to talk (mail) about.
Just my 2 cents.
Bernd.
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 01:31:35 -0800 (PST)
From: pandora <pandora@u.washington.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Tesla...nightmare band? -some DT content-
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91a.950308012738.10518A-100000@saul4.u.washington.edu>
On Tue, 7 Mar 1995, DANIEL JAMES TEMMESFELD wrote:
> [said in Alcoholic's Anonymous tone...]
> My name is Dan...and I too, am a Tesla fan...
hehehe
> Seriously, though, I started getting interested in music by these
> guys. They weren't the usual commercial crap out there. They could
> actually play. My first artists that I listened to were Tesla,
> Stryper, and Steve Taylor.
Yes, yes, and... yes. I listen and enjoy all three... it was Tesla,
however, that caused me to pick up my first guitar... *that*, my friends,
is serious! :)
> I'd never lump them with Nirvana or the Smithereens.
Thank you! And thanks to everyone else who replied (both by e-mail and
post), I jsut *knew* that I couldn't be to only one out there!!! :) My
faith is restored...
~Jeff
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Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 13:34:41 -0700 (MST)
From: William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Blood on the Bricks
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9503071330.B5808-0100000@casual1>
Mike Bahr,
I wouldn't assume no one knows of Aldo Nova. You know how diversified our
tastes are.
I have to agree with the people who've posted their likes of 80's rock.
Although I'm into very technical playing (DT, Yngwie, etc) as a guitarist
of 14 years, I also love the simpler rockin' stuff such as Ozzy, Dokken,
AC/DC, Maiden, Tesla, MSG, as well as some newer stuff (Pantera, Jackyl,
etc).
Another note: I think we're too hard on people that can't spell Dream
Theater or abbreviations (DT). I notice a lot of grammatical mistakes as
well as spelling mistakes all the time, but I get the general idea. And
this is coming from an engineer!
Will
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 10:33:31 +0000 (GMT)
From: Jeremy Longley <jcl1008@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT in London
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950308103042.26134D-100000@puce.csi.cam.ac.uk>
I'll be there on the 15 to see DT for the first time (seems like I've
waited ages...)
Can anyone tell me how the band is arranged on the stage (ie who stands
where). If I'm going to queue for hours so I can stand under Myung's
nose, and then he comes on the other side of the stage I'll be a tad
peeved :-)
Cheerz, Jezza
PS just got hold of this DT interactive thing, but it won't run -
complains "out of memory"; [PC running windowze], yet I've got 8Mb and a
20Mb swap file - anyone know how to solve this??
_ _ jcl1008@ The way your heart sounds makes all
(_)___ ________ _| | cam.ac.uk the difference; it's what decides if
| / -_)_ /_ / _` |_| Jeremy Longley you'll endure the pain we all feel.
_/ \___/__/__\__,_(_) Selwyn College The way your heart beats makes all
|__/ Cambridge The difference in learning to live.
^`'~*-,._.^`'~*-,._.^`'~*-,._.^`'~*-,._.^`'~*-,._.^`'~* - Dream Theater.
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 1995 08:49:16 -0400 (AST)
From: E_PATTON@HUSKY1.STMARYS.CA
To: YTSEJAM@anthor.arastar.com
Message-ID: <01HNVYF9JTG28WYVLS@HUSKY1.STMARYS.CA>
Ok, I would like to get off your mailing list, please. I don't have the time
to read pages and pages of Dream Theatre stuff, so quit sending it please.
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 09:21:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Hemispheres <bdon@wam.umd.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Some Extreme content
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.950308091657.9399A-100000@rac4.wam.umd.edu>
I was walking on campus yesterday and I saw some guy on a bike wearing an
AWAKE t-shirt. At Maryland, it's very rare to see this because few people
like DT. Anyway...this is to the guy that I saw: who are you and are you
on this digest?
Brandon
P.S. The Extreme concert fuckin' RULED last night at Hammerjacks.
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 14:08:57 +0300 (MEST)
From: alper ince <e064273@narwhal.cc.metu.edu.tr>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: YtseJam Guitar
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.950308140305.244795A-100000@narwhal.cc.metu.edu.tr>
Hello to all!
Me,as a Turkish progressive rock gitarist,and my friends have formed recently
a group called Dream Theater Project,where we plan to play DT songs.I have
been working on Ytse Jam and I have problems with Johns solo part.Can someone
help me with Ytse Jam guitar tablatures.Other DT tablatures are also welcome.
Dream Out Louder!
ALPER INCE
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 1995 11:50:34 EST
From: YBBX10C@prodigy.com (MISS JAIME K KIMPTON)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: re: re: new bootleg cd...
Message-ID: <013.04291343.YBBX10C@prodigy.com>
> the Dream Theater discography... check it on the WWW and I
> think it was posted to the ytsejam recently...
I haven't had a chance to dredge up the WWW over here on
Prodigy. Been meaning to, just haven't gotten a chance yet.
I would LIKE to print a full discography of the bootleg CDs
(just the CDs, not every single bootleg concert), but I
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 12:20:07 -0500 (EST)
From: Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Still more various B.S.
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.90.950308114925.16752B-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
Well, hello...
Amazingly enough, I will refrain from posting anything having to do with
a_d_o e_g_n_er_ng. (i'm not even gonna SAY IT! HA!)
This regards the "lyrical interpretations" that are going on here.
IMO, "A Fortune In Lies" is about sacrificing your artistic integrity
to make money. (selling out)
"Here is a poor man, the heart of this monster creation"
Trans: "I'm broke, and that's why I'm thinking about doing shitty music"
"He said we both would be heroes, and I was lead into temptation."
Trans: "The starving musician in me says, 'I wanna eat. Do something that
will make money. Play brilliantly, and everyone will respect you.'
This sounded okay."
"You can make a fortune in lies" - make money doing music that's not you
"You can keep a giant alive" - sell lots of records for the record co.
"You can ride the red" - you can slide by on the "blood" of your
artistic sacrifice
"Until everybody smiles" - pretty self-explanatory.
Christianity? Eh. I don't think so.
I mean, as long as you can support what you're saying, you could say that
"Mary Had A Little Lamb" was about beastiality - "had" in a sexual context.
"His fleece was white as snow" - "fleece" = metaphor for semen.
Okay, well, MAYBE that's a little ridiculous, but, I hope you see my point.
As Freud once said..."Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."
(and, incidentally, did you all know that the line "Sail on silver girl"
in S&G's "Bridge Over Troubled Water" was interpreted by someone as a
reference to a hypodermic needle, and therefore, the song was about heroin?)
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Since I'm on my soapbox:
The only "BLATANT" religious references seem to come in "Voices." But,
personally, IMO, the whole "Mind Beside Itself" trilogy just reeks of
Extreme's "III Sides to Every Story"'s _Everything Under The Sun_.
If you haven't heard it, you should. But, to save you all some $, think
about this: The _3_ songs that make up "EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN" all
have to do with self-introspection, and many religious topics.
Is this coincidental? I don't think so. I know they listened to that
album, especially that "side." How? Because, as I previously (about 6
years ago) posted that when Kevin called my radio station to do an
interview I wasn't aware was gonna happen (thanks to my roommate), I was
in the middle of playing the 2nd out of those 3 Extreme songs, and told
Kevin we'd have to go on the air live, and we'd do it after this song.
When we hit the air, I said, "Sorry to interrupt that song..." blah-blah.
Kevin goes, "Yeah! Really! Put that Back On!"
Me: "Oh, you guys like that?"
Kev: "Yeah! We listen to it constantly on the bus."
Okay, it's paraphrased a bit, but, those words did come out of his mouth.
It has often been said that DT is "Rush for the '90's." Well, consider this:
A member of Rush (forget who, probably Neil or Geddy) said they act as a
sponge that absorbs what's going on around them musically, and squeezes out
their own interpretations with their own influences.
Now folks...(god, i sound too much like that other RUSH...DON'T GET ME
STARTED ON LIMBAUGH!)
I'm not saying this is bad. No, no. Maybe the statement about DT being
"Rush for the '90's" has some validity! =)
Ahem. <insert commercial>
I have a file that was probably d/l'ed off the internet before I got it
that has an interview with Kevin explaining what "Wait For Sleep" was about.
I can post it up if someone wants.
Love, Peace, and Hair Grease...
-Hairball, one of those a-d-o e-g-n-e-i-g* types
*if you still don't get that, fill in: u-i & n-i-e-r-n*
length, length, length!
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 11:27:23 -0600 (CST)
From: "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tam2000.tamu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: me in the nightmare band?
Message-ID: <199503081727.LAA00398@tam2000.tamu.edu>
> From: Corporate Community Relations <buckley@powdml.enet.dec.com>
> Subject: Nightmare Bands - The Final Chapter
> Of course, the *worst* nightmare band would be...
>
> Vocals James Labrie
> Lead Guitar Brian Cox
> Rhythm Guitar Mike Bahr
> Keyboards Jens Johannsen
> Drums The dude from Devine Regale
well thanks for the mention, but how did I get involved with this? :)
how do you even know i play guitar??
i would be offended, but to be put in the same band as jens and james labrie
is a pretty big honor. obviously you have never heard me play :)
is the guy from divine regale any good??
**always looking for rush/dream theater/queensryche/king's x bootlegs**
=============================================================================
Voices repeating me, Brian V. Cox Voices discussing me,
"Feeling threatened? lerxst@tamu.edu "Others steal your thoughts
We reflect your hopes Dream Theater- They're not confined
and fears." A Mind Beside Itself: II. Voices Within your mind."
=============================================================================
check out my new homepage: http://tam2000.tamu.edu/~bvc8995
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 12:49:00 -0500
From: APJ <japhet@remus.rutgers.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Silent Man Single CD
Message-ID: <199503081749.MAA07308@remus.rutgers.edu>
I picked up the Silent Man single CD yesterday evening. Track list
is as follows:
Silent Man (of course)
Take the Time (demo version)
Eve (studio version)
Silent Man is direct off of the Awake CD.
Take the Time demo version is pretty close to the real version. The
only thing that seems to have been removed is the annoying glam
metal echo that was on James' voice. Makes it sound like real
pussy metal.
Eve is an instramental song. First time I've ever heard it, it's
pretty cool. Has a Marty Friedman/Kitaro sound to it.
I also picked up the new Van Halen CD. I'm still kinda mixed
feelings about it. I also haven't given the thing a full listen
yet.
APJ
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Date: 08 Mar 95 14:53 GMT
From: ALVAREZ1@AppleLink.Apple.COM (Alvarez, Paul)
To: YTSEJAM@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: MTV
Message-ID: <794674536.7829568@AppleLink.Apple.COM>
>Anyone here remember what the first video MTV played was? I do,
>and a big full beer to anyone else who knows.
>Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com
Mike,
It was "Video Killed the Radio Star" by the Buggles with a young Geoff Downes
on keys!
Paul
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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 95 01:21:08 JST
From: Kuniyuki OGUSHI <s7091019@ipc.akita-u.ac.jp>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DREAM IN PROGRESS!
Message-ID: <9503081621.AA01361@ipc.akita-u.ac.jp>
Hey! Every-Jammers!
I bought DT's new bootleg CD.
This is "DREAM IN PROGRESS" double-cd set.
This live is final show of JAPAN-TOUR in 1993.
Live in Tokyo Complete Recording.
Tunes are same as "MISSION:IMPOSSIBLE".
Let's get it!
from the land of Rising Sun
Kuniyuki Ogushi
s7091019@ipc.akita-u.ac.jp
P.S. If Kaoru read this,PLEASE mail me!!!
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 12:04:00 -0500
From: BRIL@morgan.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: My first post (if it works)(not all DT related)
Message-ID: <95Mar8.120604est.41558@gateway.morgan.com>
Hey guys (and gals??),
I have now been receiving this digest for a week and I have a few comments/
observations/questions. First my questions: Since I am new, what
is this Subconscious cd thing, it sounds good but I have not seen much
in the way of details. Also, some of the acronyms are a little cryptic
( I can figure out some of the DT references to songs, but some of
the more conventional abbreviations have escaped me, like IMHO and
the likes). I also would like to know the accepted means of replying to
people, for instance can I e-mail people directly, or do I have to go through
the digest, are there preferences/restrictions I should be aware of??
OK, enough of the questions (For now). Now my observations:
I can definitely relate to the complaints about non-DT related materials,
but get a grip people, ignore it, read the contents of the digest, no
biggie. There is a lot of junk, but someone might learn of something
new and/or interesting if they read something they had no intention
of reading. I am hoping to find out about a 'Rush" list, and have
already seen some bands mentioned here that I have never heard of
that sound like they are AT LEAST worth a listen (Echolyn, Magellan,
etc..). Another observation is that many of your taste's out there are
VERY narrow (while, of course, others are not). I myself have a Very
eclectic taste in music (RUSH, Queensryche, (old) MARILLION, DT,
NIN, ...Thrill Kill Kult, KMFDM, Stone Temple Pilots,etc...), and do
not enjoy having bands that I have found some value in being slammed by
people who have not 'Taken The Time" to look at what some of these bands
are trying to say or do. I agree everyone has a right to their opinion,
but can't we all accept the fact that while we might not appreciate the
music, the bands are (hopefully) out there doing what THEY want to do,
and finding people who can relate to THAT. If some of it seems mindless,
that's OK, that might very well be what they are trying to appeal to...
and may in fact be doing it in an original way.
That's enough of THAT for now.
Now for a comment/rebuttal: NO one can slam RUSH and get away with it...
Rush may seem like a sell out to some metal aficionados(?), but
what they have consistently tried to do is stay current with what is
happening musically around them, as well as experiment with things (and
not always successfully, look at what happened to 'Roll the Bones').
The instrumental excellence as well as the multifaceted lyrics make
this band a hard one to top. (Any wonder why DT is consistently compared
to them??). And Finally (yeah, I know I've gone on and on but...),
I know you guys have already answered about MTV's first video,
but I am not sure of the level of awareness this list possesses about
the members of "The Buggles" who did Video Killed the Radio Star;
Two of the members joined YES for the DRAMA LP, and then went on to
form ASIA, they were Geoff Downes, and Trevor Horne. Just thought I
would throw that in (THAT SHOULD EARN ME THAT BEER AS WELL, HUH???)
Brian
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Date: Wed, 08 Mar 1995 12:12:51 -0600 (MDT)
From: Rulon Clark <SL162@cc.usu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Space-Dye Vest
Message-ID: <01HNW55TXQCEI8RK2Z@cc.usu.edu>
There were a couple of people talking about the lyrical content of some
Dream Theatre songs, and I couldn't let the discussion die without addding
my two bits.
Dream Theatre are technically superb. Almost God-like in their mastery of
their respective instruments. But insturmental mastery won't make a good
band on its own. A truly great band is able to communicate ideas and emotions
through there music, which Dream Theatre does. In fact, you can take the lyricsto almost any Dream Theatre song and you will have a very good piece of poetry,
which isn't all that common in todays world of music. The song Space-Dye Vest
sticks out in my mind as an especially good example of this, which is why I'm
so sorry to see Kevin Moore leave the band. Space-Dye Vest expresses almost
perfectly the feelings I had in a relationship I was in with a girl in my
apartment building. I listen to the song, and it's like I'm with her all
over again. The words apply "I'll smile and I'll learn to pretend",
"Love is an act of blood and I'm bleeding", "Don't ever come near me again,
Do you really think I need you?"
Yep. Dream Theatre are musical Einsteins. Awesome musical ability, relevant
lyrical subject matter, poetry, excellent live shows and tight, crisp, playing.
Who can ask more from a band? LONG LIVE DREAM THEATRE!!!!!!!!
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 11:24:54 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: super mario DT
Message-ID: <1D669CA03C7@UCS.ISU.EDU>
>Actually, most of the people I've played Metropolis to (including
>myself) do think that the gtr/keys after the bass-solo sounds just
>like some computer-game music. So I guess it would be appropriate
>for them to do such a thing as playing the super mario-song!
Personally, (and a few other people I know as well) it reminds me of
a bugs bunny cartoon. The 'Untouchables' one. When Elegant Mess
(Bugs) is being chased around through that food processing plant, the
background music sounds very similar. I always get visions of Bugs
sliding down into the mixer when I hear this part (funny, eh, I am
still linked to my childhood in many ways).
That's all Folks!
ChucK
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 11:31:12 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Blood on the Bricks
Message-ID: <1D6848A0318@UCS.ISU.EDU>
>I wouldn't assume no one knows of Aldo Nova. You know how
>diversified our tastes are.
What is Aldo Nova? My friend has a boot tape with some live shit
recorded on it from Phoenix. I've haven't listened to it, but he
really seems to like it. Clue me...
ChucK
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 13:34:21 -0500 (EST)
From: BOB HOLDER <BH7314@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: BH7314@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA
Subject: Skid Row (Little DT content)
Message-ID: <950308133421.2021f225@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA>
Please don't Flame me for the non-DT content but I am posting this for anyone
interested in Skid Row.
Last night (March 7) I had the chance to see Skid Row at RPM's in Toronto,
next door to the Warehouse of "Bad Back Jam" Fame (DT content) on their Live
Listening Tour. I can say this much after the first couple of listenings
(yes, they played the CD in full prior to show) that the new stuff is much
heavier. They played for approx. 2 hours (two encores included). They played
all the new songs and a few old ones. Last song of the night, "Get the Fuck
Out".
Best thing is, tickets were only $13.00 Canadian. For those in the US that's
about $5 US :) Going to see them tonight again but in Buffalo @ a much
smaller club (Blind Mellon's).
FYI from Buffalo they go to Providence then New York then to Europe to play
in 10 different cities.
BTW Toronto & Buffalo were both sold out.
Bob
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 11:39:55 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Dream Band
Message-ID: <1D6A9D24CAE@UCS.ISU.EDU>
>Don't get me wrong, I love DT, but in my books, no one will ever come
>close to Smashing Pumpkins!
To surrender to a major flaming and to quote myself as before...
SMASHING PUMKINS SUCK AND BILLY CORGAN NEEDS TO VISIT HIS DENTIST A
LITTLE MORE OFTEN!!!
Only MHO
ChucK
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 11:50:40 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re:Rabin/Howe and opinions
Message-ID: <1D6D7922DC9@UCS.ISU.EDU>
>>While Steve had a good talent for
>>acoustic guitar, his electric style was sloppy (missed notes, screechy tone
>>etc.)..........
Ahem (throat clearing noises), can you play better than Steve Howe?
I rest my case. I like the comment about accoustics, but I really
like his soloing, too. I don't know about Yes, never really listened
to them, but with Asia, his solo work is very impressive. His new
work with them on "Aqua," he only plays the rhythm accoustical parts.
Al Petrelli (a very good lead guitarist) has taken his soloing
position for it. Overall, it makes an excellent album.
ChucK
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 11:53:32 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ALBATROSS!!!
Message-ID: <1D6E3877F07@UCS.ISU.EDU>
> C - F - Gmin - F <- Intro
>
> C - F - C - F (Sunny Day, Chasing the Clouds away)
> C - F - G - F/A - G/B (blah-blah-blah, and that's where we'll
> meet)
> F7 - G - F (intro) (Can you tell me how to get, etc.)
> Try it out. Works great. =)
I got totally dissed when I plyed this for my friends. I figured
this out on bass. I thought the bass solo would be cool, but I got
ripped (Hey, look, it's a Chuckalupugus, bleah). They stuck me with
that nickname... (Bleah!)
ChucK
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 11:58:56 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Stuff
Message-ID: <1D6FAC4145C@UCS.ISU.EDU>
> Also Mike related. A while ago I posted a help question for
>people who don't like Fatez. Well, I dragged Parallels of my shelf,
>LISTENED to it once or twice all the way through, and now I can't
>make it through the day without singing the melody to "The Eleventh
>Hour" (the whoa-whoa part). I LOVE THEM. I need to go out and buy
>the others now, but just thought some of you long time Fates fans
>would like to know that your "conversion" efforts are not going
>unheeded. Thanks gals and guys!
No, shit! Just don't start listening with Awaken the Guardian
(ICK!) I did and totally dissed em'. After getting enough info to
buy Parallels, I fell in love with it on the 1st listen. I find
myself at work humming We Can Only Say Goodbye (I think that's my
favorite, with Point of View running right behind it). I apologize
for all of the flaming that I gave them (but I can't stand John Arch).
ChucK
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 12:01:38 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Stuff
Message-ID: <1D706B96391@UCS.ISU.EDU>
> Anyway. Just wanted to thank Mike-Man Bahr for the incredible
>amount of crap he's going through to get us the Subconcious CD. I
>don't think there's too many people on this list (or any other list
>for that matter) that would go to this much trouble to give fellow
>fans something this special. So everyone with a beer close at hand,
>hoist it and yell "FUCK YEAH MIKE!" at the top of your lungs! He
>deserves it!! ^ insert comma here :P
FUCK YEAH, MIKE!!! I'm trying to dig up enough cash to spot ya' for
the CD, I hope my reservation is still in order, as I don't know how
long it'll be before I can send it. It ended up the money I was
going to send had to go toward my degree... :P School sux and then
you graduate and lose your net account...
ChucK
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 15:07:21 -0600
From: stern.35@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Stern)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: First MTV video
Message-ID: <199503082005.PAA23090@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu>
The first MTV video to be played was "Video Killed the radio Star" but I
forgot who did it. It should be remade into "Video MAKES the radio star"
though.
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 15:41:10 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael Van Opstall <mavanop@grfn.ORG>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Silent Man
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.950308153341.2221B-100000@freenet.grfn.org>
Silent Man seems to be about someone that really sits back and doesnt'
care about the bad things that are going on in the world. First, Petrucci
asks whether silence is a voice never heard - nothing is being said, or a
message with no receivers - something is being said but no one is
listening. The Silent Man, apathetic, thinks he is a victim of his
parents, brought into a cruel world by their earthly desires. If he
remains apathetic and rebels, do they stand to lose their values in
depression because they care about his future. Meanwhile, he is only
awake when there is reason and balance, he enjoys the good but ignores
the bad, when "they have to suffer" or "when theres no answer" He wants
to hide behind the great wall of security and separate himself from real
people. At the end the Silent Man considers sin and God, and decides
rather than "sailing by on the winds of silence" or remaining unknown and
separated from the world (a theme of Caught in a Web, and a recurring
theme from Awake, possibly because Dream Theater considers themselves
removed from the world of pop music), he will swim as a productive member
of society.
Not so sure about that ending, but that's my feelings on this song. I'll
have more later.
M.A. VanOpstall
mavanop@grfn.org
"How is it that the clouds hang on you?"
"No, sire, I am too much i' the sun"
-Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 1, W. Shakespeare
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 13:58:59 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: My first post (if it works)(not all DT related)
Message-ID: <1D8FB6E4BCB@UCS.ISU.EDU>
Heh, seems I've brought a voice on... :)
>the members of "The Buggles" who did Video Killed the Radio Star;
>Two of the members joined YES for the DRAMA LP, and then went on to
>form ASIA, they were Geoff Downes, and Trevor Horne. Just thought I
^^^^ Chalk up another Asia fan (I hope)
>would throw that in (THAT SHOULD EARN ME THAT BEER AS WELL, HUH???)
>Brian
Welcome aboard, Brian! Glad to see you made it.
ChucK
(Ibanez)
(Dreamtheater)
(Eotl)
(I'm rambling again...)
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 14:06:09 MST
From: "UG REIS CHARLES R" <REISCHAR@ucs.isu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Space-Dye Vest
Message-ID: <1D919AF6224@UCS.ISU.EDU>
>The song Space-Dye Vest sticks out in my mind as an especially good
>example of this, which is why I'mso sorry to see Kevin Moore leave
>the band. Space-Dye Vest expresses almost perfectly the feelings I
>had in a relationship I was in with a girl in my apartment building.
>LONG LIVE DREAM THEATRE!!!!!!!!
^^ (Suffering from Fatez Warning syndrome)
Space-Dyed Vest has inspired me lyrically like you would never
believe. I think it's one of the best songs (Kev's best) they have
written. It kinduv reminds me of this girl I had a crush on and was
too chickenshit to talk to her (I don't even have the balls to just go
up and say "Hi"). Everytime I hear this song, it almost me
think, "Try." It's weird. Much better than the Bugs Bunny
experience, I think, anyway...
ChucK
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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 17:26:50 -0500 (EST)
From: Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: First MTV song...
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950308172508.5387A-100000@oak.liii.com>
On Tue, 7 Mar 1995 schew@tis.com wrote:
> > Anyone here remember what the first video MTV played was? I do,
> >and a big full beer to anyone else who knows.
> >
> Sure... "Video Killed the Radio Star" by The Buggles... Now, did
> anyone here *see* that video when it premiered? ;-)
>
> Steve
>
>
>
Okay, now can anyone tell me what's the connection between Video Killed The
Radio Star and Dream Theater?
Andy
akeegan@liii.com
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