YTSEJAM digest 758

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YTSEJAM Digest 758

Today's Topics:

  1) Re: AOL and DT fans?
by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
  2) help from someone in Japan
by mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu (Michael Burstin)
  3) Sub update CORRECTION + more
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
  4) Re: Ryche singles (Non DT content)
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
  5) Re: A little MORE applause
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
  6) RE: DT sucks?
by Oscar van Eijk <Eijk.Oscar.van@uniface.nl>
  7) GuitarSHOP
by filippo macchiettini <macchiet@dsi.unimi.it>
  8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 756
by ed158@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wally Chung)
  9) YTSE Convention Update
by BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu
10) Re: AOL and DT fans?
by "Huub J.P. de Lijser" <DELYSER@chem1.chem.dal.ca>
11) Fan Club Numbers....
by "Jason T. Breitweg" <jbreitwe@lobelia.physics.wisc.edu>
12) Re Reign Dance
by "Eric Draven A.K.A Porter Evans" <evansj@sun0.elon.edu>
13) I want 3!!!
by siggih@ibm.net
14) petrucci home vid at nat'l guitar summer workshop
by SGA/POLITICAL SCIENCE '95/MACLAB <LODGE_TIM@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>
15) aol bashing/trolling
by JennieBear@aol.com
16) Steve Vai's new disc.
by "Brian J. Wherry" <WB81%LAFAYACS.bitnet@lafibm.lafayette.edu>
17) CD's & Country Music (No DT Content)
by Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>

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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 21:12:50 +0800
From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: AOL and DT fans?
Message-ID: <9503220512.AA29653@anthor.arastar.com>

> From: SIONELL463@aol.com
>
> similar note while chuckling with glee? Dude, are you happy now that
> someone's paying attention to ya?

That account was never subscribed to the list (like the previous bozo)
so these responses are probably not being seen.

> Anyway, I just wanted to come out of hiding long enough to say that not all
> of us AOL'ers are complete idiots.

Would there be any objections to me tightening security a bit? I could
change things so only subscribers can post... Is there enough interest
that I should do this?

-- Ken Bibb "Upon a wave of summer kbibb@arastar.com A hilltop paved with gold jester@crash.cts.com We shut our eyes and make the promises we hold" David Sylvian--"Wave"

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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 22:57:45 -0500 From: mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu (Michael Burstin) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: help from someone in Japan Message-ID: <199503220357.WAA06389@cs.brandeis.edu>

Hi all... I have a favor to ask of for someone in Japan in Kaoru's area... I have been trying to get through to her about a trade for a while, and I know that she has been having email problems... So if at all possible, could someone call her up for me to ask some questions for me... Please email me privatly if you would be able to give me a hand, and I'll let you know what I need to ask her...

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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 22:25:45 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: garion@indirect.com Subject: Sub update CORRECTION + more Message-ID: <199503220525.WAA00457@bud.indirect.com>

SUBCONSCIOUS CD Update!! Hopefully this will make up for my error-wrought 3/20/95 update!!

Current update: 3/21/95

Estimated date of arrival of my blanks shipment: 3/31/95

1. Orders received 2. A quick review: what the hell IS Subconscious, and how can I get it? 3. Original press CDs for sale.. I don't need 'em, anyone collect this stuff? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

1. Orders received

Here is a brief list of the orders that I have received, paid, and the CD numbers you will all be getting... if you are on this list, I have your order IN MY HAND and you are DONE, FINITO... all you need to do is kick back, relax, toss back a Kypler's, and wait for my CDs to come in the mail to me, and subsequently, to you. :) I _am_ keeping a copy of this list, in case future authenticity issues arise, you can be assured of the full _value_ of your Subconscious CD. Given the number of DT albums sold total, there is one Subconscious CD for every 11,700 Dream Theater fans. Not a bad ratio eh!! A quick note: you will notice I have set aside a few low numbers for Kaoru, and I have done this because most of the Japanese Ytsejammers will be doing a group order through her, and I wanted to get *some* of the low #'s to the land of the Rising Sun, tis only fair after all. :) That's the only orders that are not yet paid, because she still has to get the orders from the others. Any Nihon-jin Ytsejam members, email Kaoru-san if you want to get a copy of the CD! If more are reserved than space I set aside, I will fill another block of numbers somewhere in the 100's.

!!!!!!!!! Quick note!! If you "reserved" a copy with me, but have not yet sent in payment, you won't be in this list yet... DON'T PANIC! I've still got your reservation, and I _did_ say that because of the delay in the CDs getting to me in shipment (my blanks) that you could wait on payment if you wanted to. !!!!!!!!!

000 Original press master copy (CD-R Gold) 001 Glass master disc 002 Final press master #1 003 Final press master #2 004 Mike Bahr :) 005 Mike Portnoy 006 Kevin Moore 007 Michael Burstin 008 Brian Cox 009 Chris King 010 Jenn Albert 011 Alfredo Cappello 012 Andreas Schaefer 013 (reserved) Kaoru Kobayashi 014 (reserved) Kaoru Kobayashi 015 (reserved) Kaoru Kobayashi 016 (reserved) Kaoru Kobayashi 017 (reserved) Kaoru Kobayashi 018 (reserved) Kaoru Kobayashi 019 (reserved) Kaoru Kobayashi 020 (reserved) Kaoru Kobayashi 021 Timo Haanpaa 022 Timo Haanpaa 023 Timo Haanpaa 024 Timo Haanpaa 025 Timo Haanpaa 026 Timothy Byrd 027 Timothy Byrd 028 Timothy Byrd 029 Steve Chew 030 Mark Stahl 031 Cheryle West 032 Paul Poehler 033 Douglas Slauson 034 Stephan Dobay 035 Stephan Dobay 036 Jason Macdonald 037 Jeff Chew 038 Jeff Chew 039 Jeff Chew 040 Bernd Basmer 041 Jeff Stewart 042 Brian Anderson 043 Brian Anderson 044 Michael Van Opstall 045 Greg Bunker 046 Albert Balkiewicz 047 Albert Balkiewicz 048 William Buckley 049 William Buckley 050 Jamie Burks 051 Joel Gregie 052 Uffe Moller 053 Uffe Moller 054 Andy Dixon 055 Anna Davidson 056 Randy Collins 057 Brian Vivier 058 Brian Vivier 059 Bill Nottingham 060 Alfredo Cappello 061 Alfredo Cappello 062 Andreas Schaefer 063 Timo Haanpaa 064 Eric Gauthier 065 Eric Gauthier 066 Michael Backof 067 Tim Altman 068 Mathew Yee 069 Christopher White <- this has to be the coolest number :) 070 Alex Fraser 071 Jason Breitweg 072 George Sorsby 073 Brian Polka 074 Kristian Reyes 075 Dave Fausel 076 John Kotzian 077 Matthew Berger 078 Paul Humm 079 Brent Phillips 080 Bob Holder 081 James Runde 082 Krysten DeBroka 083 R. Christopher Hailey 084 Siegfried Hanisch 085 Jason Birzer 086 Carmen Pezzone 087 Carmen Pezzone 088 David Bell 089 Dan Tshin 090 Stephane Auzilleau 091 Stephane Auzilleau 092 Stephane Auzilleau 093 Russell Brooks 094 Alexander Reinelt 095 Alexander Reinelt 096 Ken Atwell 097 Kevin Werner 098 Kevin Werner 099 Huub J. P. de Lijser 100 Robert Dalton 101 David Rolla 102 Jonathan Larkowski 103 Nathan Bradley 104 Nathan Bradley 105 Nathan Bradley 106 Scott Spehar 107 Adam Ensinger 108 Todd Hartmann 109 Todd Hartmann 110 Paul Goracke 111 Brian Ross 112 Rob Schuldt 113 Randy Haskin 114 Chuck Hanley 115 Brandon Elhai 116 Jonah Lin 117 Eric Anderson 118 Joseph Jurczyk 119 Kevin Howard 120 Henrik Gustafsson 121 Lars Karlsson 122 Derek Reubish 123 Anthony Kozar 124 Brandon Vaughn 125 Bracken Odiorne 126 Mark Tedhams 127 Jeff Penka 128 Jeff Penka 129 Jeff Penka 130 Rick Atkinson 159 Andreas Kasper 244 Andreas Kasper 200 Justin Poulter 300 Brandon Beach 303 John Mastin 333 William Bazjek (#666 on the CD) 400 David Fox 420 John Mastin 500 Steve McMaster

If I messed up, TELL ME! I had a few major errors the other day, and I'm still trying to sort 'em out.

2. What the hell IS Subconscious, and how can I get it?!?

Subconscious is a CD, a project I undertook simply because I thought maybe it should be done. It's totally privately financed, and I think with the number of reservations that have been made, I will come out of it with my head above water, for which I owe the trustworthy members of Ytsejam a bow of gratitude. :)

NOTICE: This CD, I found out, is LEGAL because: 1. It's for promotional purposes only, not for resale 2. It's not for sale to the public. It's only for sale to buyers I contact personally, which means you people on Ytsejam. 3. The cost only covers manufacturing and shipping. I don't even make minimum wage. Maybe I should turn myself in to Immigration! :)

What happened was, I felt it was time to release some of Dream Theater's rarer songs on CD, and thus I sought good copies from everywhere, including some that came from sources connected directly to the band! Thus, I think I can safely say that these are the best copies you can find outside of those in Portnoy's vault at home.

I bought a CD burner and rented equipment from a CD pressing plant nearby, so I could produce the discs. They will have printing on them and a liner cover. I had to order blanks and jewelcases in lots of 500 or more, though, and thus the risk was made: I emptied my bank account and placed the order. Fortunately, it seems I will make up the difference with CD sales.

I will thus get my shipment of blanks + boxes around the end of March, and I will begin shipments immediately, as I can press the CDs faster than real-time. The price will be $25.00 US per disc. It was originally going to be $27.50, but the CD place had a good price on blanks.

Why, though, you may ask, should I send a payment now, when I don't get the CD for some time to come?

Well, you don't have to. I don't want anyone doing anything they are uncomfortable with. BUT! I will provide as much information as possible to make you comfortable with sending the money. I will provide full ordering and disclosure info below, and plus, the order I get the money in, determines which number CD you all get, and how fast you get it, so sending payment early gets "rewarded" in a way.

The CD pressing plant I got all my materials from previewed my current master, and decided it just wouldn't do. Without charging me a penny more for another glass master, they agreed to take on the job of fully digitally remastering the disc! They gave me a great rate on the studio time too.

So now it's done! The disc has been totally redone in Dolby Digital Surround Sound, compatible with any CD player but MUCH MUCH better than before, and compatible with Pro-Logic systems for full instrument separation on most tracks. The studio used the certified THX transfer guidelines to make sure everything would be as good as possible on the disc.

Every track stands out so much better, Eve and Change of Seasons are _better than they were on TDOE_, and songs that I was hoping would sound better, such as Don't Look Past Me and Mission Impossible, now have nary a fuzz or distortion spot. It's so clean, it's the way CD was meant to be. I was confident before that this disc would satisfy the DT collector that _had_ to have it all... now I am confident that if you like DT at all and are familiar with the usual sound of their older boots.. it will BLOW YOU AWAY. :)

The tracks that were the worst originally; Wanted Dead Or Alive, Tears, Winter, and The Gorilla Session, were improved tremendously. WDOA is now on par with the best, Tears and Winter are downright tolerable (if you'd only heard the HISS...) and Gorilla... well... we tried. :) It's okay, for a recording that was horribly done to begin with.

Here's the still-final tracklist:

1. Eve (live w/samples) 2. A Change of Season (live) 3. O Holy Night 4. Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight 5. Don't Look Past Me 6. Wanted Dead or Alive 7. To Live Forever (acoustic version) 8. The Gorilla Session 9. Mission: Impossible 10. The Back Pain Jam (RPM Warehouse) 11. Awake Heavy Jam 12. Experimental 13. Tears 14. Winter

In some cases, the rawness of the original recording will be evident, but at least you know you're hearing it the best way it can possibly be reproduced. Subconscious will be _the_ DT event of early 1995! :)

Here's how to order:

1. Please use a money order. It's simply the best way, and they cost twenty to forty cents. Make it out to me for $25.00 per disc that you want (limit 5 to a person) and I am paying the shipping cost. Each CD will be mailed in a cushioned mailer so it won't get damaged. Please make out the money order to me, Michael Bahr, not to Feel The Rush or anything like that, since this is really just my own personal endeavor.

I accepted checks for the Rush Video Montage, but a few bounced, and I was left holding the bag. I've put too much money into this, and can't afford to be stuck with bad checks, even though I trust 99% of you Ytsejam members. Plus, best of all, a money order can be traced by you, traced by me, and you know for a _fact_ that you will either get a CD, a refund, or I will get thrown in the slammer! :)

2. International customers, I know international money orders are expensive. If there is another way you wish to pay (wire, transfer, or other) let me know and if I can do it, we'll do it. So far just sending cash has been 100% successful, so I guess there's no real harm in it.

3. Please allow 4-6 weeks for delivery. By now, you know why. :) I will be literally sending out discs the DAY I get my order of blanks, so nobody will or should have to wait more than 6 weeks. If it turns out that it WILL last more than 6 weeks, I will contact you directly, or you may contact me, so that I can either discount the CD or give you a free concert on tape.

4. My new apartment complex won't hold enough mail for all the mail I will be getting from the list, and also I figured you guys and girls wanted to send money to a more permanent address, so I will be using my parents' (aka my permanent) address for the orders. I am 21, so don't let the word 'parents' scare you into thinking I'm some sort of kid. Also, I am in touch with my parents on a daily basis, so I will be getting the mail immediately, and they can reach me just about 24 hours a day.

If you happen to live in the Phoenix area feel free to page me at 602-232-6647. Besides all the CD stuff, I'm always up for lunch 'n' trading with local Jammers.

Send to: Michael Bahr 3383 W. Monterey St. Chandler, AZ 85226

That's a real address, folks, not a PO box, so you _know_ I'm not going to jump the border tomorrow. :) I'm putting it all on the line so you will all be comfortable enough with the project to make it a success. If you are still having doubts, let me know via email, and I will give you my home phone (don't want to post it publicly) and I will take the modem offline so you can actually raise me on it. :)

5. Send in your order: . Your NAME . The ADDRESS for me to SEND your CD(s) to . The money order, made out for $25, $50, $75, whatever . your EMAIL address, in case I need to contact you (emerg.)

. (OPTIONAL) your home phone.

I won't require home phone because I want you to all feel safe that I am not selling mailing lists. :) If you _do_ include it, I will use it in case of emergency (maybe the mailman spills coffee on your order and I can't read your address or something).

Again, 4-6 weeks for delivery... and if I can get anything faster than that, I will. I've already requested a breakup of the order into two packs of 250 CDs + 250 jewels, but they said 500 is the minimum blanks they can even sell.. so... heck, it brought the price down, so it's worth it. If they get here faster, I send out the CDs right away.

3. Original press masters... I don't need 'em, anyone collecting this stuff?

Oh, one final thing! I'm selling the original (gold disc CDR) master CD from this whole operation... now that the glass master and press masters are made, it's no longer needed. It's more of a distinctive collector's item now, since it has the music BEFORE the digital remastering job. You could really tell the difference with both CDs, I'll tell you THAT! :) Since it's a thing for rock memorabilia collectors moreso than for Dream Theater fans, it'll just go to the highest bidder... the bidding being open to anyone. Please bid in $1 increments, though. I'm not really worried about who gets it, since I've heard it a million times, but some collectors have been pretty insistent about it.

The current bid is > $30 < for the gold master disc #000.

Also, if I get to keep it, I'll sell the glass master. It costed me $400 to have made, so I doubt I'll get many takers for that. :) Still, if you've the means to buy and a yearning to add a piece-de-resistance to your collection, this is easily the rarest, most valuable, most prized Dream Theater item in existence. Except, of course, Charlie Dominici's notice of termination. :)

The current bid is >not open yet< for the glass master #001.

4. Epilogue

I am at garion@indirect.com and will remain there until the end of time, so please mail me if you are confused, need information, are angry, sad, lonely, maybe even a little whimsical, and need to get in touch with me. Thank you ALL for showing such solidarity that a 21-year-old college student emptied his bank account to order tons of plastic! :) You are truly, one and all, ladies and gentlemen, the best fans Dream Theater could hope for.

Take care of yourselves, everybody, and happy whomping day! :)

-Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com, humble DT discog editor, anime' collector, videogame player, CD presser, bass player, guitar player, backup vocalist, beer drinker, college stoodent, and secretly, vampire by night. :)

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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 95 22:17:36 PST From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Ryche singles (Non DT content) Message-ID: <9503220617.AA27985@tengs1.teng>

> From: mtiplady@cix.compulink.co.uk (Mark Tiplady) > > In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.90.950319202917.9800A-100000@freenet.grfn.org> > It's me again. Sorry about the non DT content but I thought a few words > about the new UK Queensryche singles might be of interest to our non > European friends. > > The production on the live tracks is superb and there's some lovely work > from the band including a cool re-working of My Empty Room which neatly > segues into Real World. Prices are GBP 1.99 for each CD (3$). > > Mark.

Damn! I paid $10 each for the two I got. It was still worth it to get the one with the full band version of Someone Else (totally blows the album version away!). They should've put that one on the album and made the other one a B-side. I have part I of the other Bridge single (with Damaged, TKW, and The Lady Wore Black). The last two are kind of weak versions, but the sound is superb.

Zach (oops, wrong list!)

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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 95 22:20:55 PST From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: A little MORE applause Message-ID: <9503220620.AA27990@tengs1.teng>

> From: Alex Lifeson <TRMD@grove.iup.edu> > > ...goes out to Mike Bahr. Every day that goes by is a day closer to > receiving the _Subconscious_ cd!!! YES!!! Mike is a TRUE fan of Dream > Theater. Can anyone believe that he LOWERED the price of the cd!??! Most > would raise it whether they go the blanks for a lower price or not, just > because people would get it anyhow. And 90% of people would leave the price > alone if they got the cds for a lower price. But NO, he lowers it. Just > shows that there are some people that are actually in the spirit of helping > others enjoy music, and not just out to make a buck.....(clap, clap, clap). > The crowd goes wild.... > briaN M eichorN > TRMD@oak.grove.iup.edu

Of course he is keeping the price down. He knows that if we found out he was making a huge profit off of it, we'd totally thrash his house when we come down for Ytsecon Arizona !>)>

Zach

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 12:01:44 WET From: Oscar van Eijk <Eijk.Oscar.van@uniface.nl> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: RE: DT sucks? Message-ID: <0098DBD5.2A543B60.1@hopper.uniface.nl>

> Remember, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A SUBSCRIBER TO THE LIST IN ORDER TO POST > TO IT. There is no sense in flaming that person by posting the flame to > the list. Chances are he (or she) is not a subsciber. But I would say that > the best thing to do is direct your flame to the address in question: > > BenGrim@aol.com

Why should he be flamed at? All he did was send a message *with* DT content, that a lot of us not allways do. Like myself at the moment ?... Oh no, mistake... HELP, don't flame me for non DT content... euh... Mike Pornoy did a great job in MTV's (Mike TV's as he called it) HBB!

Pieuw, just saved myself from 700 e-mails :-}

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 11:13:11 +0100 From: filippo macchiettini <macchiet@dsi.unimi.it> Subject: GuitarSHOP Message-ID: <199503221013.AA197837191@pluto.sm.dsi.unimi.it>

Hi all! Here you are some lines from the feb.95 GuitarSHOP issue about John Petrucci and his strings... hope it could be interesting...

GS: Do you buy into the argument that heavier strings make for a better tone? JP: I use heavier strings on the D, A, E, and low B of my 7-string, and I do find that they are tighter and more focused for "low chunky riffs".

GS: What brand and gauge do you use? JP: D'Addario EXL125(.009, .011, .016, .026, .036, .046) and .056 for the low B.

GS: Do you have any special trick to keep your guitar in tune or keep strings from breaking? JP: Yes, a tech! All kidding aside, I use fresh strings for every show and thoroughly stretch them by playing for at least an hour prior to show time.

GS: How often do you change strings on average? JP: On the road and recording, everyday. At home, 1-2 times a week.

GS: What innovations in string technology would you like to se in the future? JP: A guitar that has a bridge with a "roll" of strings that is recessed into the body. You could simply pull the strings out from the roll for quick changing - sort of like a roll of tape from a dispenser.

And in the same issue there is a nice article about Chris DeGarmo and Micheal Wilton guitar setting etc. Moreover DeGarmo explains how Queensryche recorded "Promised Land".

Filippo macchiet@ghost.dsi.unimi.it

"Time ain't by your side, don't sit idly by, you've got just to try."

("Time's up"/Living Colour)

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 06:51:50 -0500 From: ed158@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wally Chung) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 756 Message-ID: <199503221151.GAA26963@piglet.INS.CWRU.Edu>

I would like to be temporarily taken off this mailing list, for I don't have much time anymore to read these things, and all they do is fill up my mailbox...Although, there will be a time, again, where I will have time.... sya

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 08:37:37 -0500 (EST) From: BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: YTSE Convention Update Message-ID: <01HOFHRYHJ9K0009PL@sgenva.CC.GENESEO.EDU>

Greetings everyone, it's BABS. I know that I have been quiet for a few days, but I wanted everyone to know that Jeff Chew and I are really pursuing this with a vengence. We are having trouble maintaining contact with their management. Also, the dates are up in the air still. I need help once again from the Long Islander's - can you recommend any other hotels in the Nassau area of where we can have this. The Uniondale Marriott is booked to capacity, so it's hard to rearrange dates with them, I will need alternatives. Please be patient everyone. Here's a little question for discussion to lighten our spirits - How many ytse's do you think we can fit into a hotel room (ha ha). ALSO, SINCE I AM A FEMALE I DEMAND BATHROOM PRIVILEGE'S, NO LEAVING THE SEAT UP GUYS! (I just had to get a little weird for a moment). Also, I feel that I would be a great candidate to take over MTV's Headbangers Ball, I would play great/interesting stuff (I swear). Sorry though I refuse to to Beavis and Butthead impersonations - I had to stop watching them because everytime I watched them it was the same episode where Butthead is choking on a chicken nugget (I'm sure that you all have seen that one!). See ya.

-BABS

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 09:27:11 AST From: "Huub J.P. de Lijser" <DELYSER@chem1.chem.dal.ca> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: AOL and DT fans? Message-ID: <9C372F1858@chem1.chem.dal.ca>

*Would there be any objections to me tightening security a bit? I could *change things so only subscribers can post... Is there enough interest *that I should do this? * *-- *Ken Bibb "Upon a wave of summer *kbibb@arastar.com A hilltop paved with gold *jester@crash.cts.com We shut our eyes and make the promises we hold" * David Sylvian--"Wave" *

Hmmm, I think that's a bit drastic. This is only the second dumb post I have seen so far (in over a year or maybe even longer) so it's not really that bad. I agree with The Doc that we shouldn't reply to these things, at least not to the list. We can flood their mailboxes though... Another thing is that some new people only have the address of the list and don't know how to subscribe so they send a message "Please subscribe me, etc." If nobody gets to see their message, how will they subscribe?

Huub

---------------------------------------------------------------------- Huub J.P. de Lijser Calvin: "I've been thinking, Hobbes" Department of Chemistry Hobbes: "On a weekend?" Dalhousie University Calvin: "Well, it wasn't on purpose" delyser@chem1.chem.dal.ca delyser@ac.dal.ca ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 08:04:34 -0600 (CST) From: "Jason T. Breitweg" <jbreitwe@lobelia.physics.wisc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Fan Club Numbers.... Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.950322080243.23563F-100000@cleome.physics.wisc.edu>

Well since some people are posting their Fan Club membership numbers I guess I will have to brag a bit since mine is the lowest I have seen so far. My number is #119. I have waited since last February to get this damn thing. I just hope that we get some merchandise catalogs soon.

Also I would like to get a copy of the Terra Firma Cd/or tape. How do I get one?

Jason

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jason T. Breitweg Internet: jbreitwe@lobelia.physics.wisc.edu | | | | When she's sad the world is lonely. Silver clouds are crying only for the | | pain she feels so deep inside. | | | | The love she thought would save her has somehow now enslaved her. To a | | dream she thought she wanted to come true. | | | | - "Painted Skies" | | Crimson Glory | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 09:45:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Eric Draven A.K.A Porter Evans" <evansj@sun0.elon.edu> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re Reign Dance Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.90.950322094454.25436A@sun0>

Does anyone know how I can mail order there new album please Email me at evansj@sun0.elon.edu

thanks a lot porter

************************************************************ * "Nothing is ever easier the second time around * * thats what I found out" * * - Reign Dance * ************************************************************ * Porter Evans 4195 Campus Box Elon College N.C. 27244 * * (910) 538-3393 * ************************************************************

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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 95 17:07:40 -0100 From: siggih@ibm.net To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com, garion@indirect.com Subject: I want 3!!! Message-ID: <9503220110.AA0679@localhost>

Hi! >084 Siegfried Hanisch I have mailed you about that already, you said you corrected it, but I am still on the list only once although I ordered 3. Please dont forget me! else 2 of my friends are gonna kill me. Greetings # They shoot without shame Siegfried Hanisch # In the name of a piece of dirt =====================================# For a change of accent siggih@ibm.net # Or the colour of your shirt ssaver@ibm.net (ScreenSaver support) # Better the pride that resides =====================================# In a citizen of the world PGP public key available # Than the pride that divides Team OS/2 # When a colourful rag is unfurled RUSH

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 16:12:22 -0500 (EST) From: SGA/POLITICAL SCIENCE '95/MACLAB <LODGE_TIM@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: petrucci home vid at nat'l guitar summer workshop Message-ID: <950322161222.20207a45@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>

Would the person who said that they had a home video

of John Petrucci playing and teaching at last summer's

National Guitar Summer Workshop, please email me?

I lost the address and am VERY intersted in it!!!

Thanks

Tim

lodge_tim@ccsu.ctstate.edu

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 14:04:31 -0500 From: JennieBear@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: aol bashing/trolling Message-ID: <950322140430_57572897@aol.com>

>On Mar 17, 21:30, BenGrim@aol.com wrote: >> Subject: Dream theater Sucks! >> Dream theater is the worst band ever! >> >> >> -- End of excerpt from BenGrim@aol.com

> I'm not sure if you are aware of AOL's overall reputation >among the more respectable denizens of the Internet, but thank >you graciously for strengthening it.

this is really getting tiresome, ladies and gentlemen... every time someone on this list makes an anti-aol statement, it's a slap in the face to another jammer. it's allowing 'one bad apple' to taint the whole basket. how 'bout a short list of some of my fellow aol'ers? air dance (the friend of kev's who made the tape tree possible), prognosis1 (editor-in-chief of the mag *prognosis*), auracle (another *prognosis* staffer), warmwetos (yet another *prognosis* staffer), t tubbiola, mattymo, svrip, huntnkill, bredstik, tim lodge... and many others, both lurkers and posters.

btw, those of you who are long-term net citizens should be familiar with the term 'trolling' then... if you read your faqs and usenet primers, you would know that the best way to respond to a troll is to *not* respond.

jen

-- "Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" - Magellan "I am the beat of your pulse/the computer word made flesh" - Queensryche

jenniebear@aol.com kethry@netcom.com

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 95 14:58:48 EST From: "Brian J. Wherry" <WB81%LAFAYACS.bitnet@lafibm.lafayette.edu> To: <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Steve Vai's new disc. Message-ID: <22MAR95.16178732.0037.MUSIC@LAFAYACS>

Anybody get Steve Vai's new disc? Whaddayathink? Thanks!

Brian

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 09:32:47 -0500 (EST) From: Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: CD's & Country Music (No DT Content) Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.90.950322082811.1661A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>

>>is mastering, because it is always Digital. Can someone remind me what >>the others are (I knew at one time, I believe it goes recording, mixing, >>mastering). Thanks.

You're right.

ADD would be Recorded on Analog, Mixed To DAT (or other Digital), and mastered to CD (D).

There was a movement to stop this labeling of CD's - basically because anal-retentive engineers thought that if something was recorded on a digital tape unit, but, mixed through an analog mixing board, it wasn't TRULY digital...<shrug> Eh, well...

And, to that country/metal fan: You're not totally alone! =)

I'll admit publically that I LOVE Restless Heart's "Wheels" album to death. There's some GREAT songwriting on it, some really good guitar playing, and harmony vocals that'll put you through the wall.

And hey - I'll pop on the country station every once in a while. Helps to prevent burn-out. Case in point: 2 guys I went to high school with were DIE HARD SLAYER FANS. All they wanted was HEAVY METAL all the time. They wore denim & leather jackets, had long, greasy hair, ripped jeans, the whole 9 yards.

By the time we graduated, Bill & Bryan (the guys in question) had cut off their hair, started wearing preppie clothes, and went to dance clubs on a regular basis. Why? They burnt out on the whole metal thing, because that's all they listened to. <shrug>

Ah well. Just thought I'd share.

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