YTSEJAM Digest 759
Today's Topics:
1) Re: Membership Info
by Mark Tedhams <markt@gn2.getnet.com>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 754
by whziff@students.wisc.edu (William Ziff)
3) A different way to listen to DT
by Tim Villa <tvilla@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>
4) more
by Michael Van Opstall <mavanop@grfn.ORG>
5) Re: aol bashing/trolling
by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
6) Re: AOL and DT fans?
by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
7) Re: YTSE Convention Update
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
8) Membershibp numbers
by Richard K Henley <rhenley@gac.edu>
9) Re: I want 3!!!
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
10) Sub update
by Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com>
11) smiley
by basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer)
12) Re: Steve Vai's new disc.
by Greg "Big Brother" Lee <greg@aix.can.ibm.com>
13) Paranoid
by BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu
14) Thanks
by "Scott Snyderman" <sas220@email.psu.edu>
15) Info for FAQs
by Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
16) Another Mike Quote
by Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 758
by John B Ashcraft <jbashcra@uncc.edu>
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 16:22:56 -0701 (MST)
From: Mark Tedhams <markt@gn2.getnet.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Membership Info
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.950322161957.2548B-100000@gn2.getnet.com>
I have heard how people have received there membership and so on but have
not gotten any merchandise they bought. Well, I got my shirts before my
membership club thing, in fact I got the shirts THE DAY OF THE CONCERT
back in December, I was so excited. Oh well, hope that helped. . . if
you haven't gotten any merchandise yet than it should probably come
soon. Well, bye.
- Mr.T
finger me at: markt@gn2.getnet.com
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 17:28:58 -0600
From: whziff@students.wisc.edu (William Ziff)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 754
Message-ID: <199503222328.RAA33733@audumla.students.wisc.edu>
To whom it may concern,
I wish to cancel my subscription. Thank you.
Sincerely,
William Ziff
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 08:58:27 +0800 (WST)
From: Tim Villa <tvilla@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: A different way to listen to DT
Message-ID: <199503230058.IAA21772@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>
Following the suggestions of a number of fellow NiN listeners, I had a
listen to his/their The Downward Spiral album via stereo headphones with
the jack only half in. I don't pretend to understand much of this but
apparently the stereo parts of the music that are out of phase get
cancelled out when becoming mono, leaving behind "hidden" effects and
sounds not previously heard.
After an hour of freaking out to some pretty weird stuff I thought it'd
be interesting to have a listen to some other CD's and figured Awake
would be as good as any. Sure enough, there is a MAJOR difference-the
vocals are all but gone (giving it a karaoke feel *grin*) as are most of
the low end sounds (John M is gone, kick drum is barely audible). What
you do get however is incredible detail on all the guitar and a good
deal of the keys. Try listening to 6:00 and you'll be astounded at how
much detail there is in John P's playing! And Scarred is transformed
into a completely different sound, as if you were listening outside the
studio or in a small room or something :).
Anyway, to listen this way just muck around with the headphone jack so
it's about half in/out until you get mono, then a bit more until this
effect starts-keep trying until you get it, and believe me you'll know
it when you hear it! Apologies if this is some incredibly common
practise which is never discussed or anything, it's all new to me ;)
Tim
-- Tim Villa Faculties of Economics & Commerce, Education and Law Computer Officer The University of Western Australia Phone: +61-9-380-1796 Fax: +61-9-380-1068 tvilla@uniwa.uwa.edu.au http://www.ecel.uwa.edu.au/~tim/tim------------------------------
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 20:49:01 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Van Opstall <mavanop@grfn.ORG> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: more Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.950322204239.21242A-100000@freenet.grfn.org>
First of all to answer a couple of Marc Resspass' questions: No, DT doesn't really play songs from WDADU anymore. :( Probably hard to simulate that bass sound live :). I have LatM, besides Awake, it is the only DT CD that the local Best Buy has (the don't have I&W). If you don't have I&W, I recommend you find it. It is probably the best DT disc out there.
Answers to a couple of questions about Eve: it can be found on the Silent Man single or on a couple of bootlegs (like the one I've got, Milan '93), but often times when it is played live there are no samples. It is also going to be on Mike Bahr's Subconscious CD. YEAH! I believe it was written by Moore, it has certainly been performed by him up to a year or more before the Awake sessions began.
Glad to hear about the EP of Change of Seasons.
Comments furthur: To whoever asked me if I had heard of Sacrament... I have their cassette "Haunts of Violence" The band and especially guitar players are killer, but the singer scares the life from me. He's terrifying. Concerning the Tourniquet comments: The only thing that prevents me from liking STB more is the high pitched falsetto vocals that pervade almost all the songs. The guitar playing kills, especially on Ark of Suffering - I have the tab and it's all tapped (kind of like Fortune in lies) and I can't play it.
Enough for now.
M.A. VanOpstall mavanop@grfn.org
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 22:06:26 +0800 From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb) To: ytsejam Subject: Re: aol bashing/trolling Message-ID: <9503230606.AA09622@anthor.arastar.com>
> From: JennieBear@aol.com > > this is really getting tiresome, ladies and gentlemen... every time someone > on this list makes an anti-aol statement, it's a slap in the face to another > jammer.
AOL'ers: if you're unhappy with the treatment, *please* talk to aol about it. They could have set things up in a way that would have avoided all of the negativeness that's currently prevalent but they decided that it would be better to make the users suffer than to take the 8-20 hours that would have been required to have done things correctly.
If AOL was truly interested in your business, they would keep an eye out for problems like the last two faked posts from aol and they would actively try to improve the image of their users. As Jenniebear points out, most of the users are cool--it's a few visible ones that cause problems. And if AOL would act concerned about the "bad apples" there would be a lot less animosity.
As a comparison, let's look at penet.fi Whenever I've had a problem with an anonymous user from penet, things are quickly resolved and penet makes sure that things are resolved satisfactorily. Why can't aol be more responsive like that?
My opinion is that they aren't responsive because they don't care.
-- Ken Bibb "Upon a wave of summer kbibb@arastar.com A hilltop paved with gold jester@crash.cts.com We shut our eyes and make the promises we hold" David Sylvian--"Wave"
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 1995 22:15:26 +0800 From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: AOL and DT fans? Message-ID: <9503230615.AA09681@anthor.arastar.com>
> From: "Huub J.P. de Lijser" <DELYSER@chem1.chem.dal.ca> > > Hmmm, I think that's a bit drastic. This is only the second dumb post > I have seen so far (in over a year or maybe even longer) so it's not > really that bad.
I'm concerned by the frequency (which appears to be increasing) and by the number of responses that each one generates.
> I agree with The Doc that we shouldn't reply to > these things, at least not to the list. We can flood their mailboxes > though...
I agree that you shouldn't reply. If you decide to flood their mailbox, remember that you'll be affecting other users at aol besides the bozo (for example, you might prevent airdance from getting your request for a kev tape, or prevent jenniebear from getting your personal email).
> Another thing is that some new people only have the address of the > list and don't know how to subscribe so they send a message "Please > subscribe me, etc." If nobody gets to see their message, how will they > subscribe?
These messages should *never* go to a bounce address[1]. Same goes for unsubscribe requests. Period. The software filters most of these out, but occasionally someone figures out a way to get one past the filters.
When a message is filtered out (or bounced because the sender's not subscribed) a copy of the bounce goes to the list manager(s). They then respond (unless they see that the user has already subscribed).
[1] If you want to subscribe to a list and you only have the bounce address and the list is a music list, get mkwong@ucsd.edu's List of Music Mailing Lists (lomml). It includes addresses for subscribing to all of the included lists.
Alternatively, the list is probably either a listserv or a majordomo. If it's a listserv, you can subscribe at listname-request if it's a majordomo, you can subscribe at majordomo@site
-- Ken Bibb "Upon a wave of summer kbibb@arastar.com A hilltop paved with gold jester@crash.cts.com We shut our eyes and make the promises we hold" David Sylvian--"Wave"
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 95 22:24:29 PST From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSE Convention Update Message-ID: <9503230624.AA05213@tengs1.teng>
> From: BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu > > Here's a little question for discussion to lighten our > spirits - How many ytse's do you think we can fit into a hotel room (ha ha). > ALSO, SINCE I AM A FEMALE I DEMAND BATHROOM PRIVILEGE'S, NO LEAVING THE > SEAT UP GUYS! (I just had to get a little weird for a moment). > > -BABS
I resent that! I always put the seat down (perhaps I was a woman in my other life?).
Question: if the LI ytsecon does happen, what month (if you can narrow it down to that) are you shooting for? A friend and I (a ytsejammer in spirit) were thinking of visiting a buddy of ours (who's in the army there) and going down to NYC. Of course, being the mountain boy that I am, I'd rather go to Idaho (or AZ if it wasn't so damned hot!) but this is something for me to think about...
-Zach "There _are_ no other lives!" -Volzchek in Wiseguy
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 00:51:54 (CST) From: Richard K Henley <rhenley@gac.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Membershibp numbers Message-ID: <199503230651.AAA18370@hermes.gac.edu>
You are all beaten. I know a guy with the number 109. See you all in the front row!
Rick
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 00:57:47 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: I want 3!!! Message-ID: <199503230757.AAA04602@bud.indirect.com>
> Hi! > >084 Siegfried Hanisch > I have mailed you about that already, you said you corrected it, but I am still > on the list only once although I ordered 3. Please dont forget me! else 2 of my friends > are gonna kill me.
I have not posted a new update of the list since Monday, when I got it wrong... I promise you, I have it corrected for the next Monday list.
Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 01:01:29 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <garion@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: garion@indirect.com Subject: Sub update Message-ID: <199503230801.BAA04798@bud.indirect.com>
SUBCONSCIOUS CD Update!!
Current update: 3/24/95
Estimated date of arrival of my blanks shipment: 3/31/95
1. Orders received 2. A quick review: what the hell IS Subconscious, and how can I get it? 3. Original press CDs for sale.. I don't need 'em, anyone collect this stuff? =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
1. Orders received
Here is a brief list of the orders that I have received, paid, and the CD numbers you will all be getting... if you are on this list, I have your order IN MY HAND and you are DONE, FINITO... all you need to do is kick back, relax, toss back a Kypler's, and wait for my CDs to come in the mail to me, and subsequently, to you. :) I _am_ keeping a copy of this list, in case future authenticity issues arise, you can be assured of the full _value_ of your Subconscious CD. Given the number of DT albums sold total, there is one Subconscious CD for every 11,700 Dream Theater fans. Not a bad ratio eh!! A quick note: you will notice I have set aside a few low numbers for Kaoru, and I have done this because most of the Japanese Ytsejammers will be doing a group order through her, and I wanted to get *some* of the low #'s to the land of the Rising Sun, tis only fair after all. :) That's the only orders that are not yet paid, because she still has to get the orders from the others. Any Nihon-jin Ytsejam members, email Kaoru-san if you want to get a copy of the CD! If more are reserved than space I set aside, I will fill another block of numbers somewhere in the 100's.
!!!!!!!!! Quick note!! If you "reserved" a copy with me, but have not yet sent in payment, you won't be in this list yet... DON'T PANIC! I've still got your reservation, and I _did_ say that because of the delay in the CDs getting to me in shipment (my blanks) that you could wait on payment if you wanted to. !!!!!!!!!
000 Original press master copy (CD-R Gold) 001 Glass master disc 002 Final press master #1 003 Final press master #2 004 Mike Bahr :) 005 Mike Portnoy 006 Kevin Moore 007 Michael Burstin 008 Brian Cox 009 Chris King 010 Jenn Albert 011 Alfredo Cappello 012 Andreas Schaefer 013 (reserved) Kaoru Kobayashi 014 (reserved) Kaoru Kobayashi 015 (reserved) Kaoru Kobayashi 016 (reserved) Kaoru Kobayashi 017 (reserved) Kaoru Kobayashi 018 (reserved) Kaoru Kobayashi 019 (reserved) Kaoru Kobayashi 020 (reserved) Kaoru Kobayashi 021 Timo Haanpaa 022 Timo Haanpaa 023 Timo Haanpaa 024 Timo Haanpaa 025 Timo Haanpaa 026 Timothy Byrd 027 Timothy Byrd 028 Timothy Byrd 029 Steve Chew 030 Mark Stahl 031 Cheryle West 032 Paul Poehler 033 Douglas Slauson 034 Stephan Dobay 035 Stephan Dobay 036 Jason Macdonald 037 Jeff Chew 038 Jeff Chew 039 Jeff Chew 040 Bernd Basmer 041 Jeff Stewart 042 Brian Anderson 043 Brian Anderson 044 Michael Van Opstall 045 Greg Bunker 046 Albert Balkiewicz 047 Albert Balkiewicz 048 William Buckley 049 William Buckley 050 Jamie Burks 051 Joel Gregie 052 Uffe Moller 053 Uffe Moller 054 Andy Dixon 055 Anna Davidson 056 Randy Collins 057 Brian Vivier 058 Brian Vivier 059 Bill Nottingham 060 Alfredo Cappello 061 Alfredo Cappello 062 Andreas Schaefer 063 Timo Haanpaa 064 Eric Gauthier 065 Eric Gauthier 066 Michael Backof 067 Tim Altman 068 Mathew Yee 069 Christopher White <- this has to be the coolest number :) 070 Alex Fraser 071 Jason Breitweg 072 George Sorsby 073 Brian Polka 074 Kristian Reyes 075 Dave Fausel 076 John Kotzian 077 Matthew Berger 078 Paul Humm 079 Brent Phillips 080 Bob Holder 081 James Runde 082 Krysten DeBroka 083 R. Christopher Hailey 084 Siegfried Hanisch 085 Jason Birzer 086 Carmen Pezzone 087 Carmen Pezzone 088 David Bell 089 Dan Tshin 090 Stephane Auzilleau 091 Stephane Auzilleau 092 Stephane Auzilleau 093 Russell Brooks 094 Alexander Reinelt 095 Alexander Reinelt 096 Ken Atwell 097 Kevin Werner 098 Kevin Werner 099 Huub J. P. de Lijser 100 Robert Dalton 101 David Rolla 102 Jonathan Larkowski 103 Nathan Bradley 104 Nathan Bradley 105 Nathan Bradley 106 Scott Spehar 107 Adam Ensinger 108 Todd Hartmann 109 Todd Hartmann 110 Paul Goracke 111 Brian Ross 112 Rob Schuldt 113 Randy Haskin 114 Chuck Hanley 115 Brandon Elhai 116 Jonah Lin 117 Eric Anderson 118 Joseph Jurczyk 119 Kevin Howard 120 Henrik Gustafsson 121 Lars Karlsson 122 Derek Reubish 123 Anthony Kozar 124 Brandon Vaughn 125 Bracken Odiorne 126 Mark Tedhams 127 Jeff Penka 128 Jeff Penka 129 Jeff Penka 130 Rick Atkinson 131 Paul Holloway 132 Antti Nyrhinen 133 Antti Nyrhinen 134 Olov Ringman 135 Olov Ringman 136 Olov Ringman 137 Olov Ringman 138 Olov Ringman 139 Olov Ringman 140 Jarrod Ramsey Lewis 141 Mike Johander 142 Mike Johander 143 Steve Borzilleri 144 Steve Borzilleri 145 Michael Hutchinson 146 Matt Leger 147 Bill Barry 148 Chris Fyhr 149 Chris Fyhr 150 Siegfried Hanisch 151 Siegfried Hanisch 159 Andreas Kasper 244 Andreas Kasper 200 Justin Poulter 300 Brandon Beach 303 John Mastin 333 William Bazjek (#666 on the CD) 334 William Bazjek (another #666) 400 David Fox 420 John Mastin 500 Steve McMaster
If I messed up, TELL ME! I had a few major errors the other day, and I'm still trying to sort 'em out.
2. What the hell IS Subconscious, and how can I get it?!?
Subconscious is a CD, a project I undertook simply because I thought maybe it should be done. It's totally privately financed, and I think with the number of reservations that have been made, I will come out of it with my head above water, for which I owe the trustworthy members of Ytsejam a bow of gratitude. :)
NOTICE: This CD, I found out, is LEGAL because: 1. It's for promotional purposes only, not for resale, and; 2. It's not for sale. What you're actually purchasing from me is psychiatric advice. I'm throwing a free CD in with every session. Notice all of my messages end with "Take care"? That's pretty good advice! :) 3. The cost only covers manufacturing and shipping. I don't even make minimum wage. Maybe I should turn myself in to Immigration! :)
What happened was, I felt it was time to release some of Dream Theater's rarer songs on CD, and thus I sought good copies from everywhere, including some that came from sources connected directly to the band! Thus, I think I can safely say that these are the best copies you can find outside of those in Portnoy's vault at home.
I bought a CD burner and rented equipment from a CD pressing plant nearby, so I could produce the discs. They will have printing on them and a liner cover. I had to order blanks and jewelcases in lots of 500 or more, though, and thus the risk was made: I emptied my bank account and placed the order. Fortunately, it seems I will make up the difference with CD sales.
I will thus get my shipment of blanks + boxes around the end of March, and I will begin shipments immediately, as I can press the CDs faster than real-time. The price will be $25.00 US per disc. It was originally going to be $27.50, but the CD place had a good price on blanks.
Why, though, you may ask, should I send a payment now, when I don't get the CD for some time to come?
Well, you don't have to. I don't want anyone doing anything they are uncomfortable with. BUT! I will provide as much information as possible to make you comfortable with sending the money. I will provide full ordering and disclosure info below, and plus, the order I get the money in, determines which number CD you all get, and how fast you get it, so sending payment early gets "rewarded" in a way.
The CD pressing plant I got all my materials from previewed my current master, and decided it just wouldn't do. Without charging me a penny more for another glass master, they agreed to take on the job of fully digitally remastering the disc! They gave me a great rate on the studio time too.
So now it's done! The disc has been totally redone in Dolby Digital Surround Sound, compatible with any CD player but MUCH MUCH better than before, and compatible with Pro-Logic systems for full instrument separation on most tracks. The studio used the certified THX transfer guidelines to make sure everything would be as good as possible on the disc.
Every track stands out so much better, Eve and Change of Seasons are _better than they were on TDOE_, and songs that I was hoping would sound better, such as Don't Look Past Me and Mission Impossible, now have nary a fuzz or distortion spot. It's so clean, it's the way CD was meant to be. I was confident before that this disc would satisfy the DT collector that _had_ to have it all... now I am confident that if you like DT at all and are familiar with the usual sound of their older boots.. it will BLOW YOU AWAY. :)
The tracks that were the worst originally; Wanted Dead Or Alive, Tears, Winter, and The Gorilla Session, were improved tremendously. WDOA is now on par with the best, Tears and Winter are downright tolerable (if you'd only heard the HISS...) and Gorilla... well... we tried. :) It's okay, for a recording that was horribly done to begin with.
Here's the still-final tracklist:
1. Eve (live w/samples) 2. A Change of Season (live) 3. O Holy Night 4. Golden Slumbers/Carry That Weight 5. Don't Look Past Me 6. Wanted Dead or Alive 7. To Live Forever (acoustic version) 8. The Gorilla Session 9. Mission: Impossible 10. The Back Pain Jam (RPM Warehouse) 11. Awake Heavy Jam 12. Experimental 13. Tears 14. Winter
In some cases, the rawness of the original recording will be evident, but at least you know you're hearing it the best way it can possibly be reproduced. Subconscious will be _the_ DT event of early 1995! :)
Here's how to order:
1. Please use a money order. It's simply the best way, and they cost twenty to forty cents. Make it out to me for $25.00 per disc that you want (limit 5 to a person) and I am paying the shipping cost. Each CD will be mailed in a cushioned mailer so it won't get damaged. Please make out the money order to me, Michael Bahr, not to Feel The Rush or anything like that, since this is really just my own personal endeavor.
I accepted checks for the Rush Video Montage, but a few bounced, and I was left holding the bag. I've put too much money into this, and can't afford to be stuck with bad checks, even though I trust 99% of you Ytsejam members. Plus, best of all, a money order can be traced by you, traced by me, and you know for a _fact_ that you will either get a CD, a refund, or I will get thrown in the slammer! :)
2. International customers, I know international money orders are expensive. If there is another way you wish to pay (wire, transfer, or other) let me know and if I can do it, we'll do it. So far just sending cash has been 100% successful, so I guess there's no real harm in it.
3. Please allow 4-6 weeks for delivery. By now, you know why. :) I will be literally sending out discs the DAY I get my order of blanks, so nobody will or should have to wait more than 6 weeks. If it turns out that it WILL last more than 6 weeks, I will contact you directly, or you may contact me, so that I can either discount the CD or give you a free concert on tape.
4. My new apartment complex won't hold enough mail for all the mail I will be getting from the list, and also I figured you guys and girls wanted to send money to a more permanent address, so I will be using my parents' (aka my permanent) address for the orders. I am 21, so don't let the word 'parents' scare you into thinking I'm some sort of kid. Also, I am in touch with my parents on a daily basis, so I will be getting the mail immediately, and they can reach me just about 24 hours a day.
If you happen to live in the Phoenix area feel free to page me at 602-232-6647. Besides all the CD stuff, I'm always up for lunch 'n' trading with local Jammers.
Send to: Michael Bahr 3383 W. Monterey St. Chandler, AZ 85226
That's a real address, folks, not a PO box, so you _know_ I'm not going to jump the border tomorrow. :) I'm putting it all on the line so you will all be comfortable enough with the project to make it a success. If you are still having doubts, let me know via email, and I will give you my home phone (don't want to post it publicly) and I will take the modem offline so you can actually raise me on it. :)
5. Send in your order: . Your NAME . The ADDRESS for me to SEND your CD(s) to . The money order, made out for $25, $50, $75, whatever . your EMAIL address, in case I need to contact you (emerg.)
. (OPTIONAL) your home phone.
I won't require home phone because I want you to all feel safe that I am not selling mailing lists. :) If you _do_ include it, I will use it in case of emergency (maybe the mailman spills coffee on your order and I can't read your address or something).
Again, 4-6 weeks for delivery... and if I can get anything faster than that, I will. I've already requested a breakup of the order into two packs of 250 CDs + 250 jewels, but they said 500 is the minimum blanks they can even sell.. so... heck, it brought the price down, so it's worth it. If they get here faster, I send out the CDs right away.
3. Original press masters... I don't need 'em, anyone collecting this stuff?
Oh, one final thing! I'm selling the original (gold disc CDR) master CD from this whole operation... now that the glass master and press masters are made, it's no longer needed. It's more of a distinctive collector's item now, since it has the music BEFORE the digital remastering job. You could really tell the difference with both CDs, I'll tell you THAT! :) Since it's a thing for rock memorabilia collectors moreso than for Dream Theater fans, it'll just go to the highest bidder... the bidding being open to anyone. Please bid in $1 increments, though. I'm not really worried about who gets it, since I've heard it a million times, but some collectors have been pretty insistent about it.
The current bid is > $40 < for the gold master disc #000. by Doug Yoder.
Also, if I get to keep it, I'll sell the glass master. It costed me $400 to have made, so I doubt I'll get many takers for that. :) Still, if you've the means to buy and a yearning to add a piece-de-resistance to your collection, this is easily the rarest, most valuable, most prized Dream Theater item in existence. Except, of course, Charlie Dominici's notice of termination. :)
The current bid is >not open yet< for the glass master #001.
4. Epilogue
I am at garion@indirect.com and will remain there until the end of time, so please mail me if you are confused, need information, are angry, sad, lonely, maybe even a little whimsical, and need to get in touch with me. Thank you ALL for showing such solidarity that a 21-year-old college student emptied his bank account to order tons of plastic! :) You are truly, one and all, ladies and gentlemen, the best fans Dream Theater could hope for.
Take care of yourselves, everybody, and happy whomping day! :)
-Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com, humble DT discog editor, anime' collector, videogame player, CD presser, bass player, guitar player, backup vocalist, beer drinker, college stoodent, and secretly, vampire by night. :)
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 95 13:13:13 +0100 From: basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: smiley Message-ID: <9503231213.AA12722@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
Hi jammers!!
I'm just surprised about the variety of SMILYs you create here on this list... :)
It's real fun...
I'm just a little bored...
Oha, no DT content.... Hmmmm... I can't await ACOS coming out. I've never heard it but I noticed that it's some 20 Minutes long and that will be the Wooooaaaahhhh-effect of the year I think. Imagine... 20 Minutes high-DT-quality in only ONE song... Isn't DT too good for this world? I mean, too good for all these people who don't recongnize them as one of the best bands ever? Just some thoughts of a bored guitar player sitting at this f**king terminal, damned to work... 8)
Bye.
Bernd.
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 95 9:33:18 EST From: Greg "Big Brother" Lee <greg@aix.can.ibm.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Steve Vai's new disc. Message-ID: <199503231433.JAA105767@hal.mkm.aix.can.ibm.com>
> Anybody get Steve Vai's new disc? Whaddayathink? Thanks! > > Brian
Did not know there was one...What's it called...I can't say I like _Sex_and_Religion_ that much...but Passion and Warfare is amazing guitar work (even if you can hear the copy cat stuff from _Flex_Able_).
Later!
Greg.
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 09:40:28 -0500 (EST) From: BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Paranoid Message-ID: <01HOGYLDPRTE000DRW@sgenva.CC.GENESEO.EDU>
Hello everyone, it's Babs. Before I fell asleep last night I was brain- storming convention ideas and then this popped into my head. Now that the DT guys are back in the states do you think that they are checking out our posts? I suppose that I should address this to Ken Bibb. Are the Gods watching us? -BABS
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 10:49:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Scott Snyderman" <sas220@email.psu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Thanks Message-ID: <38976.sas220@email.psu.edu>
Hello Jammers, I would once again like to thank everyone who has been helping me out with club and bar info along the East Coast. Many new people have written me and I appreciate it a lot. I have a special message for Steve from Baltimore. Somehow, my old disk dissappeared with the info you sent me. Sending it again again would be a huge help. Talk to you soon. If anyone else can help, please let me know. Thanks to everyone again.
P.S. This list is far better than any other bands!!!!!!!!!!
Scott Snyderman Mass Illusion sas220@psu.edu
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 10:58:37 -0500 (EST) From: Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Info for FAQs Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.90.950323104825.2126A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
I finally got to the FAQ/WWW site, and noticed there was a bit of a question regarding what TTT meant. I remembered suddenly that I had asked Mike Portnoy what that song was about since it was the only one on I&W he had contributed to (because ACOS was pulled from the album), so, here's Mike's explanation of it; Could someone get this to the person in charge of that?
"We decided to write a song about everything we'd been going through for the past three years - looking for a new singer, a new label & new management - just all the changes we made & all the frustrations we went through...but, have it coming from each of our four different perspectives. So, we broke it up, and said 'Okay, you take the 1st verse, you take the 2nd verse,' went away, wrote lyrics about our feelings about all the stuff we were going through, and then put it together. Then [we] wrote the chorus together. That was the 1st time we had ever done that, and it's the only song on the album where the lyrics were actually written by everybody."
- Mike Portnoy on "TTT"
I haven't listened to this in a while, so, I nearly forgot about the actual content. And the only copy I have of it right now is a tape I made off of what went out over the air, of the edited version - cut some stuff out for various reasons - finding the original is at the top of my list of things to do, since the tape deck I played the interview from decided to cut out one of the channels a few times.
Some of the information on it is kinda outdated - I mean, this was '92, I think...
Anyway, there it is. If I find anything else relevant, I'll let who ever needs to know know, provided they see this and get in contact with me.
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 11:03:33 -0500 (EST) From: Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Another Mike Quote Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.90.950323110106.2126B-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
Found this on the tape I mentioned last post:
"Driving while listening to Metropolis should be illegal." -Mike Portnoy
I told him I almost ran my car off the road while listening to that for the 1st time. =)
Anyway, more later... -Hairball
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 1995 11:06:25 -0500 From: John B Ashcraft <jbashcra@uncc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 758 Message-ID: <199503231606.LAA18138@unccsun.uncc.edu>
*Would there be any objections to me tightening security a bit? I could
*change things so only subscribers can post... Is there enough interest
*that I should do this?
*
*--
*Ken Bibb "Upon a wave of summer
*kbibb@arastar.com A hilltop paved with gold
*jester@crash.cts.com We shut our eyes and make the promises we hold"
* David Sylvian--"Wave"
*
Hmmm, I think that's a bit drastic. This is only the second dumb post
I have seen so far (in over a year or maybe even longer) so it's not
really that bad. I agree with The Doc that we shouldn't reply to
these things, at least not to the list. We can flood their mailboxes
though...
Another thing is that some new people only have the address of the
list and don't know how to subscribe so they send a message "Please
subscribe me, etc." If nobody gets to see their message, how will they
subscribe?
Huub
I Think that there is a solution. Ken do you have a program that will make your system block out the oposts by non-subscribers and then send then a mes- sage giving them info about the list and how to subscribe. It could be the DT FAQ that is sent to them.
Am I dreaming.
Oh well just a suggestion.
Trey
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