YTSEJAM Digest 828
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 826
by lark@cvfn.org (Jon Larkowski)
2) RAP and VAI
by stern.35@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Stern)
3) Jam #825
by Aviad Shkolnikov <shkola@kids-mail.huji.ac.il>
4) Gtr & Drm
by Aviad Shkolnikov <shkola@kids-mail.huji.ac.il>
5) Guitar Stuff
by "Adam m. Cook" <adamc@shore.net>
6) VH influences Derick?
by mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu (Michael Burstin)
7) Re: #2(2) YTSEJAM digest 824
by HuntNKill@aol.com
8) pronunciation
by 921458PB@GBVAXA.UWGB.EDU
9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 827
by James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
10) My Ultimate Medley
by Deebor@aol.com
11) "get ytsejam ytsejam.issue817"
by Deebor@aol.com
12) The Jam
by Deebor@aol.com
13) KC, Subconscious
by pgor@netcom.com (Paul Goracke)
14) RE: Another reason to wake up
by Paul Holloway <pjhollow@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
15) Ending to PMU
by debraun@fresno.edu (Randall Braun)
16) stuff
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 826
by omman@solar.sky.net
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 826
by omman@solar.sky.net
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20) Re: YTSEJAM digest 827
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
21) Mystery female vocals...
by JennieBear@aol.com
22) Letterman info!
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
23) Re: The Jam
by Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
24) Re: ytsecon scheduling conflicts!
by jbako01 <jbako01@barney.poly.edu>
25) Derek
by mpatrick@holli.com (Mike Patrick)
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Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 01:39:03 -0600
From: lark@cvfn.org (Jon Larkowski)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 826
Message-ID: <v01510100abe34cef7b50@[160.32.2.106]>
>how do you unsubscribe NOW?
to "ytsejam-request@arastar.com"
subject "asdf"
text "unsubscribe ytsejam"
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Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 01:48:37 -0500 From: stern.35@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Stern) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: RAP and VAI Message-ID: <199505200648.CAA28716@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Hi there,
>On my anti-Rap sig. IMHO, Rap does not qualify as music. Anyone can chant >lyrics to a 1 or 2 note dance beat while someone plays with something in >the background (usually abusing a synth/drum machine in the process). I AM >NOT flaming Rush or Extreme, Their inclusion of short Rap sections in some >compositions (Rush, Roll the Bones; Extreme, a couple of works on Porno & >3-Sides) is appropriate and tasteful, not abusive.
Okay...It seems as though I'm the only rap fan who's going to defend rap's MUSICALITY (am I the only one?). First let me start off in actually relating RAP to DT (brace yourselves). DT is not on MTV. Most of what MTV plays nowadays is rap. BUT.....the rap I listen to, however, is NOT on MTV. Most of us have ventured out to find bands such as Dream Theater without the spoonfeeding of MTV. Well, all I am saying is that there is MUCH MORE to rap than what MTV shows. Bands such as the Pharcyde, the Roots (both of whom are on Lollapalooza's second stage this year), KRS-1 (he's just one guy), Boogie Down Productions (KRS-1's old band, now defunct), the Heiroglyphics, Souls of Mischief, Disposable Heroes of Hipocrisy (also defunct), De La Soul (yeah yeah, they were on MTV in like 1988) and many others are NOT on MTV and, IMHO contain many good thoughts as well as poetry that I personally find quite pleasing. They are the one's who move rap towards a positive and, dare I say it, PROGRESSIVE level. But, as I said before, neither they nor DT are on MTV. I believe that these groups contain a good sense of musicality in their own realm...I mean you can't compare DT to rap. But you can't compare DT to Madonna either, can you? Many of these groups also play their own instruments, I might add (I won't even get into the Beastie Boys). There are also bands that use rap too mesh with other styles...we all know that Rage Against the Machine's lyrics are rap....but are they rap? I argue no....other bands such as Soul Coughing (one of my faves), Alphabet Soup, and G. Love and Special Sauce (another must have...blues induces rap! woo woo!) break the bounderies between rap and other various styles of MUSIC to make it a style all their own. I just can't imagine saying that rap is not music. I really don't think it is our judgements to say that. You may say that it is basic compared to other styles (even though I argue a lot of thought goes into rap...at least the rap I listen to). You may say it's BAD music...but nonetheless, music. Any thoughts, opinions would be greatly appreciated.
But enough of that....now on to Vai. I am quite surprised that none of you have thought that his experimentation came from his playing days with FRANK ZAPPA. Well, IMHO, I'd have to say that Zappa was one of the most experimental artists of ALL TIME, and to say that he didn't rub off on Stevie would be just NUTSO! Especially since this was before his solo days, Whitesnake, and David Lee Roth (not Van Halen). Anyone else agree or disagree?
Well I think I've rambled on too long, so I'll await any opinions, gripes, and complaints from what I've written.....have a nice day.
--Jeff (that guy)
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Date: Sat, 20 May 95 11:04 +0300 From: Aviad Shkolnikov <shkola@kids-mail.huji.ac.il> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Jam #825 Message-ID: <m0sCja5-0000FUC@vmbb.cts.com>
Hey people! Could someone send over Jam #825, please? thanks. My adress is : Shkola@kids-mail.huji.ac.il
**************************************************************************** * "We went shoping for God, * "Can't you see there's only * * and got the God of Shoping..." * one me, and that me is me" * * Galiano * Faith No More * * * - Aviad Shkolnikov IS a cool name! * ****************************************************************************
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Date: Sat, 20 May 95 11:37 +0300 From: Aviad Shkolnikov <shkola@kids-mail.huji.ac.il> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Gtr & Drm Message-ID: <m0sCk4s-0000YDC@vmbb.cts.com>
G'day! Shit, I knew those damn guitarists would never shut up if given the chance to talk about their stupid axes... I say the hell with wimpy strings and amps! I say drummers unite, let us crush those smartass good for nothing guitar players ! You don't have to have a 1000$ guitar in order to be good. You could have a 100$ premier 1970 drum kit like I do! Never mind the bass drum pedal is making strange squeaky sounds and the snares are falling apart - you can ROCK with it! See ya!
(not a flame, just a joke) **************************************************************************** * "We went shoping for God, * "Can't you see there's only * * and got the God of Shoping..." * one me, and that me is me" * * Galiano * Faith No More * * * - Aviad Shkolnikov IS a cool name! * ****************************************************************************
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Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 10:02:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Adam m. Cook" <adamc@shore.net> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Guitar Stuff Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950520100044.17312A-100000@shore.shore.net>
Hey Jammers. I play an Ibanez aussi, but am I the only person here who likes their S series better than the RG series? I love the feel of the sleek slim mahogany body, and my guitar looks awesome in its transperant red finish. I play through a zoom 1012 and a Boss Metal-Zone, into a fender amp. I really want an ADA-MP1.
adam
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Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 12:20:15 -0400 From: mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu (Michael Burstin) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: VH influences Derick? Message-ID: <199505201620.MAA01897@cs.brandeis.edu>
I was just listening to a tape from the Paris 95 show, and noticed something... On \Derick's solo, before AMBI, he starts playing Eruption on the keyboard... I was listening... and all of a sudden, I thought... Cathedral... no Eruption... Anyway, I just thought that it was interesting that hw must have some VH influences...
Oh, BTW, for the person who asked about ?Vai playing w/ VH... Vai played on David Lee Roth's first solo CD after he left VH... -- +----------------------------------------+----------------+---------+ | And I'll smile and learn to pretend | Dream Theater | Michael | | And I'll never be open again | Space Dye Vest | Burstin | | And I'll have no more dreams to defend |-----Awake------+---------+ | And I'll never be open again | Let's Go Pens | +----------------------------------------+--------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu http://cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html
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Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 12:00:52 -0400 From: HuntNKill@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: #2(2) YTSEJAM digest 824 Message-ID: <950520120051_125514778@aol.com>
Dear jammers,
I'm shopping for an amp as well. I want something good for a small price i.e. the guy who got a 350W amp for $100. Right now, I'm playing through a piece o crap Crate 15W amp. If anyone is willing to part with a more powerful amp in exchange for a little $, e-mail me!
Yours, Jeff =)
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Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 11:36:20 -0500 (CDT) From: 921458PB@GBVAXA.UWGB.EDU To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: pronunciation Message-ID: <01HQQ3HSV3JM0000NA@GBVAXA.UWGB.EDU>
In the "Dance of Eternity" bootleg set James pronounces YTSEJAM as "yet-see-jam". Just an observation.
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Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 13:09:02 -0400 From: James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 827 Message-ID: <Pine.DYN.3.91.950520130807.27186A-100000@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
Does anyone know why KC did not play on Letterman? I thought it was definite! I was very pissed....
Anyone?
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Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 13:30:31 -0400 From: Deebor@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: My Ultimate Medley Message-ID: <950520133021_125554074@aol.com>
My idea was that "The Majestic Jam" wouldn't include just parts of old songs but new material as well, which provides the transition to other songs. Also, the song wouldn't actually have any segments that sound exactly like their predecessors, they would be redone and reworked until some of them end up being very obscure. Kind of like Erotomania, except with all the albums, not just one. Again, this is just an idea, and I don't really expect DT to do it anytime soon. Just on their tenth album :)
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Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 14:03:55 -0400 From: Deebor@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: "get ytsejam ytsejam.issue817" Message-ID: <950520140354_125567273@aol.com>
um... It didn't work. Could someone post again the message you're supposed to send to get back issues? Thanks
Deebor
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Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 14:04:07 -0400 From: Deebor@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: The Jam Message-ID: <950520140406_125567389@aol.com>
Yeah, that would be pretty cool, having the Majestic Jam on an album all its own. Then people who wouldn't support the idea wouldn't have to buy it.. but then it wouldn't really sell much... hmmmmm.... :^\`| (<-I was trying to draw a guy holding his hand up to his chin in deep thought. nevermind..)
Deebor
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Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 11:17:36 -0700 From: pgor@netcom.com (Paul Goracke) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: KC, Subconscious Message-ID: <v02110100abe3d5876e5b@DialupEudora>
Two weeks ago today was one of the best days for new cds I've had in a long time. I _finally_ found a copy of King Crimson's THRAK (I was beginning to consider a record store conspiracy to prevent me from owning it). And apparently lending the Kevin demos to a friend increased my karma points to the bonus level, because I came home to find _Subconscious_ in the ol' mailbox. Dilemma, dilemma, which to listen to first? So they've been dominating my disc player for two weeks now, and finally have the time to talk about them.
King Crimson for newbies: I have just recently been introduced to KC, so I think I can provide this insight - *get it*! Get VROOM, too. THRAK has a wide variety of songs, from light tunes that could be radio hits if they weren't too good for that medium, to instrumentals that could leave you with a vacant stare and drool running down your chin if you are only used to 4/4 and straight, predictable melody lines - the complexity would fry your neurons. I would compare the instrumentals to some of Primus' stuff, in that the first couple times it may sound like random noise, but eventually you find yourself grooving to a beat you really can't put a finger on - quite subtle. William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> summed it up pretty well with:
> In short, if you want to scar a young girl for life, buy her this CD. Her > ears will be bleeding from the strange melodic lines in no time.
:^) :^) :^)
> One last thing to say: TURN IT UP LOUD. You won't be disappointed.
Whole-hearted agreement: LOUD it must be. I can't wait to see them in Seattle on 22jun. They were on Letterman last night? Bummed I missed it, but successful first dates take precedence (see, I'm not a totally pathetic music fiend.)
Quick Primus tie-in: it makes much more sense that Larry LaLonde and Kirk Hammett took lessons from Satch when you realize they're all from the SF Bay Area.
Subconscious: Thank you, Mike! This is my first (and probably only) boot. I'm just too much of a stickler for sound quality (and lack of inane crowd prattle). The opportunity to hear unrealeased tunes, at quality better than that of the original boots, is much appreciated.
I like darn near everything on this disc (although Gorilla Session only every other day or so). Some random thoughts: Eve was released as the bonus to the Japanese _Awake_, right? I'm going to have to try to dig that up, now. I will definitely be near the front of the line for the ACoS EP when it is released. Never thought I'd utter the statement, "O Holy Night _rocks_". I really like their version of "Carry That Weight," even though I've never been a huge fan of the Beatles. I liked Charlie's voice before, but even more so on these songs. I'd like to hear more along the line of Myung's "Experimental" in the future (not total direction, just flavors hear and there). "Wanted" is hilarious! I played it at the office, and the secretary said, "Is that a new Bon Jovi live album? I love that song," and I could hardly contain my laughter - "Gimme a gun, I'll shoot him". I am now in the process of trying to obtain a high quality vid or aud of the Uncovered gig (yeah, I know I said _only_ boot earlier, but...)
pg
"I've got a contract out on them for $5,000, so... umm... I gotta go."
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Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 15:04:19 -0400 From: Paul Holloway <pjhollow@novice.uwaterloo.ca> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: RE: Another reason to wake up Message-ID: <Pine.3.87.9505201519.A16516-0100000@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
[lots of stuff deleted] > OK, so I am a fanatic. But, "If I know I'm going crazy I must not be > insane." I cannot say enough good things about Dream Theater. They > singlehandedly restored my faith in metal. Disks 5 and 6 in my Sony > are permanently reserved for I&W and Awake. I suppose when WDADU > arrives at Tower (I AM SO STOKED!) it will assume the number 4 slot > for a month or two until I can hear each song in my head like an > anthem. Can you get an I.V. for this stuff? [snip] > Now you know - fear me. I'm the guy in the Megadeth T-shirt standing > next to you on the elevator. The wild look in my eyes is devotion. I > am moved by a higher power - I'm on a mission. All men must be told - > we must join in carrying the word to every land. A new religion for > an apathetic mass of faceless humanity searching for a reason to exist > and to bother even drawing another breath. We shall call it > 'Petruccianity!' Our holy text will be the complete lyrical > transcription of every Dream Theater song ever written! Cry, oh you > people living each day without inspiration. Weep for your salvation...
Aaaagh!! It's like you're reading my mind!! I walk around campus, mumbling DT lyrics under my breath, fingering out Kevin's keyboard stuff into the air... people must think I'm some sort of wacko! I just can't help it though. I can remember one day when all I said to myself was 'Evil genious, this secret plan must be dealt with a losing hand...'. The chords kept ripping through my thoughts, my hand kept tapping my leg, the desk, my pen magically became a drumstick. I eagerly grab guitar tab, and the first thing I do when I get home is to transcribe it to keys, just to see how close (or sadly, how far) I am from being able to flawlessly imitate what Dream Theater has crafted. I must have played Kevin's intro and long solo from TTT 1000 times, and I still can't do it right! Every compilation tape I make features DT in one way or another, but _no-one_ I know appreciates them, or their kind of music, the way I do. It's really sad actually: DT (and the genre) music, with all it's effects and impact on the activity of my brain and my emotions, yet no one to share it with.
Ok, but if there's supposed to be a point to this post, this is it. I think those of us that listen to this kind of music, commonly called 'progressive', are alone at the top of the aural spectrum. Maybe it's just me, or us, but this stuff does _so_ much for me, I wonder if we're luckier than everyone else to be able to appreciate this, or just crazy?
"How come you dont understand me..." -'Scarred'
. .. . . .. . . . ... ..[pjhollow@novice.uwaterloo.ca] . . .. . . . ... .. . : and here we are again the my perfect life may U of Waterloo yyz : | doors close behind us and deceive me tonight Engineering | | the road goes on and on realize overcast skies Waterloo, Ont | : jm/fates warning bp/northern pikes Canada AFiL : . ... . ... . ..... ... . . ... ..... . ... . ..... ... . . ... . ... . ... .
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Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 12:53:02 -0700 From: debraun@fresno.edu (Randall Braun) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Ending to PMU Message-ID: <v01520c02abe3a86d1b4b@[204.161.33.79]>
Although this question has probably been answered in some earlier digest, before I subscribed: Why doesn't DT's Pull Me Under have a 'Real' ending rather than just the cutoff, and what do they do with this in live performance. Do they change the ending, or do they bridge into another piece? I've never had the opportunity to see/hear any live recordings as of yet.
--Randall L. Braun
It felt like the impossible attempt to create a sensory image of non-existence --AYN RAND, Atlas Shrugged
I never saw a u-haul being pulled by a hearse --Extreme, Cynical (see 1 Timothy 6:6-12)
You'll be gone tomorrow... Extreme, Hip Today (see Luke 12:14-21)
Am I ever gonna change, will I always stay the same say one thing,then I do the other same old song, goes on forever rise, rise n'shine, a new day is coming yes it is --Extreme, Who Cares? (see Romans 7:17-25)
cRap Musi is an oxymoron. (with apologies to Rush & Extreme) ^ | |________|
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Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 17:19:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: stuff Message-ID: <199505202119.RAA13989@umbc9.umbc.edu>
I've got a few things to say... I hope I don't forget them before I get to the end!
Does anyone think that there is someone else singing the second verse of O Holy Night? I think it is someone else or maybe Charles is just singing different than he is in the 1st verse. I figured I'd ask this question now that about 500 more people have heard this song thanks to Mike and Subcon.
I like Chris Cintrons rendition of Don't Look Past Me (or should I say Look?) better, although that version doesn't have any guitar in it. It was kinda cool, I didn't listen to the other versions for a long time and I never noticed that the Chris version didn't have guitars and then one day I decide to try one of the other versions and it sounded like a completly different song with guitars in it!
Someone inthe last jam was looking for a good keyboard for around $500. I would say to go with the Yamaha PSR-510. It's a newer of the 500 that you are using. I'm not sure what the differences all are but I think the main was is that this one is configured to the General Midi standard so most midi files should be ready to play without doing alot of doctoring of voices. It has onboard effects such as delay and built in DSP for Hall, Room, Plate etc. reverbs. You should easily be able to find it for $500 maybe even $450.
Does anyone on here have a Tascam 644 Midistudio that they would like to sell? I'm in desperite need of one of these. I'm gonna jump off of a bridge if I don't get one soon.
I think I actually remebered everything I wanted to say! huh huh cool...
-- ************************************************************************** * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu * * * * You're fighting the weight of the world, * * and no one can save you this time. * * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. * * * * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater * **************************************************************************
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Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 16:24:58 -0500 From: omman@solar.sky.net To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 826 Message-ID: <199505202124.QAA25209@sky.net>
>Well, I pronounce Ytsejam as It-see-jam with the emphasis on It. This >seems the most logical way if you think about how you pronounce the "sty" >part of Majesty (although I called Ytsejam this way before realising that >it was Majesty backwards). Well, if you think of saying majesy backwards, it would say ITS A JAM, not IT SEE JAM. I personally think that ITS A JAM is more fitting and more appropriate. Maybe we should ask they guys at DT! James
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Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 16:38:39 -0500 From: omman@solar.sky.net To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 826 Message-ID: <199505202138.QAA26683@sky.net>
>My top ten list: (how could they let Kevin go?) Okay, here's MY top Ten 10)Ytse Jam 9)The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun 8)The Killing Hand 7)Surrounded 6)Pull Me Under 5)The Mirror/Lie 4)Metropolis Part 1:The Miracle and The Sleeper 3)Space Dye Vest 2)Scarred 1)A Mind Beside Itself A Change of Season would be up here to, but there's no more room!!!
>we must join in carrying the word to every land. A new religion for >an apathetic mass of faceless humanity searching for a reason to exist >and to bother even drawing another breath. We shall call it >'Petruccianity!' Our holy text will be the complete lyrical Hehe, it does seem like DT isn't just a music group, its a religion with its fans as its followers, and people like EastWest Music and Mike Bahr and everyone else who puts out there music as their Prophets!
-James
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>>Hairball (I think) wrote:
>>On my anti-Rap sig. IMHO, Rap does not qualify as music. Anyone can >>chant lyrics to a 1 or 2 note dance beat while someone plays with >>something in the background (usually abusing a synth/drum machine in >>the process).
No, Dave, I didn't say that. I'm not saying I disagree with it, but, I didn't say that. Sorry. Anyway...I also didn't post the thing about needing Bush concert dates either...not to say that you said I did; I just didn't want anyone to attribute that to me.
ANYWAY: Still haven't had time to fully listen to Subconsious.
In all fairness to Mike and the engineer who probably pulled their hair out, it sounds pretty good over all. I don't think I really WANT to go into specifics, because I'd just be pointing out engineering things that they REALLY had little control over, which I understand.
So, let me just say that this CD is a very cool thing to have, and Kudos to Mike and the engineer-type (grin) who put it together for an outstanding effort.
And, for any of you who might have gripes about little sound drop outs - there's not much they can do to fix them once they're on tape. There's not much ANYONE can do to fix 'em! That big wipe-out on one of the tracks actually sounds like the tape (I assume it was a DAT) got overloaded - it's right after a big crescendo, so, that's probably what caused it. I'll listen again later - right now, I have to be to work in about 6 hours (and have to get up in about 3.5)...so, I'm gonna bolt.
Later all, Hairball, the misquoted train engineer.
(hey, who did that?)
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Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 17:47:32 -0500 (CDT) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 827 Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9505201752.B21433-0100000@galaxy.galstar.com>
On Sat, 20 May 1995, James Peele wrote:
> > Does anyone know why KC did not play on Letterman? I thought it was > definite! I was very pissed.... > > Anyone?
hacks me off too. a LOT. my guess is this: they lined up two bands, KC and the other band who was on it (forget their name.)
KC played such cool songs the audience hated em, booed em off the stage, just becaues Fripp started shredding on his mellotron while the two drummers started playing in different tim sigs. And everyone loved the other band. Well Letterman isn't live because at that time it would be 4 in the morning, so they had it pretaped, and they just put the more popular band on there. but who knows?
I'm sure pissed though, because KC isn't coming anywhere near Tulsa, OK this year and they're one of, if not the best, live acts to see.
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Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 19:15:11 -0400 From: JennieBear@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Mystery female vocals... Message-ID: <950520191510_125987898@aol.com>
>Anyone know the source of the female vocal singing samples used in Kev's "shallow"? I heard the original song (some dance thing) while in a cafe recently. I didn't know it was sampled (thought it was his jd800 or something) and am curious. Not that I'd buy a dance album -- just curious :)<
Actually, I mentioned this particular tid-bit early on, but I don't think anyone was paying attention! :(
The vocal sample is of the Icelandic vocalist Bjork, formally from the band The Sugarcubes. It comes from "Crying," off her solo debut album (it's used in the chorus).
Something I didn't mention the first time, though, is that in Bjork's song there's a line that says something like, "Crying because I'm *shallow*." Coincidence? I really don't know.
So I have a very eclectic music collection! :)
Jen -- "Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" - Magellan "I am the beat of your pulse/the computer word made flesh" - Queensryche
jenniebear@aol.com kethry@netcom.com
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Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 18:24:00 -0500 (CDT) From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Letterman info! Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9505201828.A22063-0100000@galaxy.galstar.com>
Ah ha! I have found out good news! it seems that all shows taped in london have been aired the day after! in this case, they played on the 19th, which is a Friday. that means the next day the shows airs, this Monday, the 22nd, they will be on! So, all those who missed it, have one more chance!!
[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] [] Six o'clock the siren kicks him from a dream... Welcome back my [] [] friends to the show that never ends... Cat's foot, iron claw... And [] [] the light dies down on Broadway... Carry on my wayward son... I get [] [] up, I get down... And here I stand at the crossroads edge... Brother [] [] can you spare another war, another wasteland, and another lost [] [] generation... And your wise men don't know how it feels to be thick [] [] as a brick.. -- William Wright wwright@galaxy.galstar.com [] [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]
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Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 21:28:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: The Jam Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950520212652.29527A-100000@oak.liii.com>
On Sat, 20 May 1995 Deebor@aol.com wrote:
> Yeah, that would be pretty cool, having the Majestic Jam on an album all its > own. Then people who wouldn't support the idea wouldn't have to buy it.. but > then it wouldn't really sell much... hmmmmm....
I don't think the Majestic Jam is a good idea, but I'd still buy it.
Andy
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Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 22:41:00 -0400 (EDT) From: jbako01 <jbako01@barney.poly.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: ytsecon scheduling conflicts! Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950520223934.12543A-100000@barney>
On Thu, 18 May 1995, Dario M Zagar wrote:
> with doublestops with the 5th on the bottom. Myung chugs away on the low > strings, but JP avoids it. Again, I don't have the book yet--I only live > in Manhattan, and still no stores have it--so this is only my leaden ear
Colony Music (I think that's the name of it) on Broadway and 49th will probably have it. They had the I&W book the week it came out.
Hope that helps, good luck in finding it,
James Bako jbako01@barney.poly.edu Polytechnic University Brooklyn, New York
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Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 21:36:03 -0400 From: mpatrick@holli.com (Mike Patrick) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Derek Message-ID: <m0sD1Ig-0009sPC@walnut.holli.com>
> I got to see Derek w/ DT when they were in >KC. All I have to say about him is that he's an excellent >keyboardist, but he's boring to watch. I didn't see any >energy from him, only him playing .
Oh, this is funny. Yes, that Kevin Moore was a real dynamic stage presence, wasn't he? Let's face it. Most keyboardists I've seen who really try to look 'into it' with lots of body and such just end up looking like jackasses. Don't get me wrong. Keys are cool, but the physical impact just isn't there - not like crunching on a power chord or cracking a drum.
Mike Patrick mpatrick@holli.com Still searching for that elusive corner of the Net where civility is all the rage and the content is substantive. Ah, screw it. Who am I kidding?
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