YTSEJAM Digest 833
Today's Topics:
1) Re: I&W
by stoner@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu (Michael D Stoner)
2) Queensryche setlist
by Jeff Stewart <jstewart@sparc.isl.net>
3) the meaning of the ending to PMU
by debraun@fresno.edu (Randall Braun)
4) Re: So what if I can't write music
by jforte@acl.nyit.edu (Jeff Forte)
5) KC review!
by "DAVE \"The New #2\" PETERSON" <GLYDE@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
6) re:DT in Canada
by BOB HOLDER <BH7314@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA>
7) Galactic Cowboys News
by Dan Tshin <danman@orbonline.net>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 831
by Dan Tshin <danman@orbonline.net>
9) Birthday Wishes!
by AirDance@aol.com
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 832
by Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
11) YTSEJAM digest 828
by "Steven Johnson, P" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
12) DT tour dates - USA
by Robert_Kasper_at_MAIN_Post_Office@voyager.capmetro.austin.tx.us (Robert Kasper)
13) YTSE Convention
by BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu
14) Yeah!!! It's official!!!
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
15) Re: Re: YTSEJAM digest 831
by brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken Odiorne)
16) DT Summer tour
by Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
17) Re: YTSEJAM digest 831
by khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson)
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest
by Stanton R Guy <ab619@ccn.cs.dal.ca>
19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 832
by kad@iris122.biosym.com
20) Type O
by Aviad Shkolnikov <shkola@kids-mail.huji.ac.il>
21) New web site
by Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu>
22) Re: Yeah!!! It's official!!!
by "R. Hailey" <pass@homer15.u.washington.edu>
23) Tying off threads
by debraun@fresno.edu (Randall Braun)
24) YTSEJAM digest 832
by Gore_Josh/furman@furman.edu
25) equipment for taping shows
by humm paul gregory <p-humm@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
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Date: Thu, 25 May 95 15:09:31 EDT
From: stoner@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu (Michael D Stoner)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: I&W
Message-ID: <9505251909.AA13294@pascal.m>
>
> I just wanted to say that I&W is awesome! I can't believe I waited this
> long to get it. I can't stop listening to it. If there is anyone who
> doesn't have it, go get it. You won't be disappointed.
>
Well, duh! I can't believe there was anyone on this list who didn't have
I&W. It's so incredible that when I first stuck it in my CD tray, all the
other CD's in there became so embarrassed that their holes closed up so I
wouldn't be able to play them anymore!
Mike Stoner
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Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 14:57:32 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jeff Stewart <jstewart@sparc.isl.net>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Queensryche setlist
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.950525145613.682A-100000@sparc.isl.net>
Hey all!
Sorry for the lack of DT content but I'm curious as to what QR is
playing live on this tour. Could someone please post this? Thank you!
Jeff
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Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 12:21:42 -0700
From: debraun@fresno.edu (Randall Braun)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: the meaning of the ending to PMU
Message-ID: <v01520c03abea38ca43e3@[204.161.33.79]>
Thanks to all those who answered my question on the musical ending of PMU.
However nobody answered the other question I should have asked. WHY does
PMU end so abruptly. Beyond poetic (musician's) license does it relate to
the supposed connection with Hamlet (or was it MacBeth, sorry I don't have
my DT FAQ at hand.)???
More later on some of the threads I inadvertantly appear to have started
(Rap, Satch's students, rythm (sic). I'll try to keep it closer to DT,
although I do see my own connections of DT with'em. Also my Sig, I'm just
in an EXTREME mode at the moment.
--Randall L. Braun
It felt like the impossible attempt to create a sensory image of non-existence
--AYN RAND, Atlas Shrugged
I never saw a u-haul being pulled by a hearse
--Extreme, Cynical (see 1 Timothy 6:6-12)
You'll be gone tomorrow... Extreme, Hip Today (see Luke 12:14-21)
Shooting a gun is like shooting heroin.
If progressive is what they'll play in heaven, its rap you'll hear in hell.
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Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 15:53:31 -0400
From: jforte@acl.nyit.edu (Jeff Forte)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: So what if I can't write music
Message-ID: <95052515533142@acl.nyit.edu>
>Excellent point. If DT is using time changes and key changes just to
>impress musicians, then they would *only* have musician fans. The fact
>that DT can impress non-musicians means that the time changes and key
>changes have done their job. It's the total picture that matters. They
>utilize their impressive talents to paint a more beautiful picture.
I have been a Dream Theater fan since I saw the video for Take the Time on MTV
(one of the few times it was actually played). What made me like them so much
was not the time sig changes or anything like that concidering up until
recently i didnt know what one was. I dont know anything about music theory.
what i like about them is that it seems that they do more in one song than
bands like Green Day and Offspring will do in their entire carreer (no flames,
this just my opinion). Once I got the album I realized that they are one of
the few bands that i had heard that didnt sound the same throughout the entire
album. Each band member seems to know thier insturments really well.
JEFF
jforte@acl.nyit.edu
P.S. Anyone out there into White Zombie...the new record is great. And i just
got general admission tickets to their show at the Nassau Colusieum. Its only
three days before the Queensryche show at Jones Beach. July is going to be a
good month.
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Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 17:38:15 -0600 (CST)
From: "DAVE \"The New #2\" PETERSON" <GLYDE@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
To: Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: KC review!
Message-ID: <01HQXF66TQYQ00BVAX@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
Okay, I've been sucked into the KC black hole like a ton of you jammers!
Due to the constant praise of THRAK, (and my anticipation of seeing it on Mr.
Letterman - which of course hasn't happened yet. I agree with the gent that
they indeed DID play, but the producers and audience just weren't progressive
enough to understand and appreciate just what was going on before their eyes!
Hence, they booted 'em and somehow got another band to take their place.) I
went out and got it. (Can you say *Long* pause in the middle of that last
sentence?)
So here's my first impressions... (Note: I've heard nothing of KC before.)
The singer is very good! I mean, he's got a slight Bono tone in his voice, but
he can really wail when he wants to. (No, this band sounds nothing like U2
however!!!)
The songs with lyrics I LOVE!!! Each one is so different and so emotional and
so heavy at times and so *funky*! I had no idea that this idea had such big
funk influences! The album is very bass-heavy, but if you know what funk is
supposed to sound like, you need strong bass. Note, this is *not* a funk band.
They're a funk-influenced prog-rock band.
The instrumental songs: (VROOM, VROOM VROOM, VROOM VROOM: Coda, B'Boom/THRAK)
are very challenging to listen to! This is where you get into two drummers
playing in different time signatures!!! Until I understand each instrumental
more, I won't be able to appreciate them. They're so out there, I just need
more time to "get to know them". But, like Metropolis: Part 1, each time
change becomes second nature and you can groove along without second thought!
So dat's dat. All in all, a very kick-ass CD. It doesn't gel together as well
as say, Images and Words, but in a way this is a slightly experimental CD.
Still, it's very solid and has to be heard to be believed!
Just thought some of you guys would like to hear from a newbie THRAKer.
Take care!
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Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 12:53:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: BOB HOLDER <BH7314@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: BH7314@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA
Subject: re:DT in Canada
Message-ID: <950525125309.2020c4fc@LUNDY.NIAGARAC.ON.CA>
Eric Gauthier asked about DT playing in Canada. I just finished
reading the May issue of M.E.A.T. magazine (based out of Toronto) and
they said that DT is expected to play in Canada during their July/August
tour.
BTW I am also a Canadian from St.Catharines in the Niagara Region
For thos of you interested in seeing Niagara Falls, this can now be done
via Internet Connect Niagara at niagara.com? (I think this is it). There
is a camera attached to the top of a hotel in the Falls that can provide
a 10-15second picture of the Canadian and American sides of the Falls.
See ya Yet again off to the wilderness
Bob for a weekend of fishing and camping
and listening to DT
P.S. Happy Memorial Day weekend to our friends south of the border
(Canadian that is!)
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Date: Thu, 25 May 95 23:17 EDT
From: Dan Tshin <danman@orbonline.net>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Galactic Cowboys News
Message-ID: <m0sEpuF-000g8HC@george.orbonline.net>
I don't know if anyone has heard this, but:
Galactic Cowboys is not dead YET!!!
I got this news from the NEW King's X mailing list (subscribe to
"kx-mgr@rfleming.demon.co.uk)
Date: Sat, 13 May 1995 12:34:13 -0400
From: Gretche521@aol.com
Subject: Galactic Cowboys
Well, it's finally official. The contracts are signed and the Cowboys will
be doing another album soon. The new contracts were signed by Monty, Alan
and Ben. Dane is not officially signing the contracts. He may or may not
be playing on the album. Everything is friendly -- he just wanted to be
free to pursue some other projects at the same time.....
Gretchen
Well, I'm really happy about this!! King's X is also about to or are
underway recording their next album!!
Yipee! Well back to DT content. Subcon is just superb!!
Dan
---------------> Dan Tshin >>>>> danman@io.org <<<<<-----------"Ryche"-+
Shad Valley Carleton '94 SuRvIvOr | _ _ |
Homepage URL: http://www.io.org/~danman | ( /V\ ) |
"Peace comes through thinking with our hearts and not with | M |
words. Until then we'll light another candle for this world."| | |
The faithful live Awake/The rest remain misled-Dream Theatre | | |
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Date: Thu, 25 May 95 23:54 EDT
From: Dan Tshin <danman@orbonline.net>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 831
Message-ID: <m0sEqTl-000g8GC@george.orbonline.net>
Hi, In response to Eric Gauthier <s800690@aix2.uottawa.ca>, I'm a Canuck, too.
I missed the DT show at the RPM Warehouse... Have they only been to Canada
once?? When is the next time???? I WANT to know!! :)
I'm still waiting news on QR and maybe even King's X...
Well I live in the T.O. area, btw.
b-bye
---------------> Dan Tshin >>>>> danman@io.org <<<<<-----------"Ryche"-+
Shad Valley Carleton '94 SuRvIvOr | _ _ |
Homepage URL: http://www.io.org/~danman | ( /V\ ) |
"Peace comes through thinking with our hearts and not with | M |
words. Until then we'll light another candle for this world."| | |
The faithful live Awake/The rest remain misled-Dream Theatre | | |
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Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 04:13:26 -0400
From: AirDance@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Birthday Wishes!
Message-ID: <950526041325_12692131@aol.com>
Hi Jammers,
Won't you all join me in wishing a very happy 28th birthday to Mr. Kevin
Moore?! :)
Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you... :)
Jennifer
<airdance@aol.com>
"...watch me float out from the sea Moon is you and you are me this is all
you need to know something passes let it go..."
Kevin Moore/_Roll Away The Stone_
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Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 07:47:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: Hairball <hairball@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 832
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.950526074609.19266A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
Ya know, the thing that really impressed me about YJ-832 was that it had
YJ-831 in it also! That's so great!! Not only was #832 twice its normal
size, but, I got to re-read the same damn stuff for a 2nd day!
(sarcasm mode off)
sheesh...
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Date: 26 May 1995 08:49:08 GMT
From: "Steven Johnson, P" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 828
Message-ID: <199505261351.AA02945@interlock.amoco.com>
*** Reply to note of 05/21/95 05:21
This is another response to the "rap isn't music" thread.
PLEASE don't try and make a general statement for the masses as to what is and
isn't music. For you not to like it, fine. But it IS a form of music in
general terms, not personal.
I personally don't think more than two of us on this list could make a decent
album, much less a living o through rap music. Rhyming patterns are to
intricate to put together (talking about today's rap, not rap from 1980). And
for it to make some sort of communicative sense is even harder. My guess is
that 99 percent of what we could conjure up would sound like Noah Vanderhoff's
(?) rap about his arcade's in "Wayne's World"--extremely pedestrian. Yes,
gansta rap mayn't be the best message out there, but is Napalm Deth? There is
a spectrum to all styles of music and rap has its great and its shit.
I don't listen to a lot of rap, but I can recognize that there is a definite
skill to it and to write it off is very closed minded. CHRIST! Poison and
Trixter are millionaires as well. Are they representative of the art of hard
rock/metal? I hope many on this list would give them more credit than "mid-80s
part y band."
I'll finish by saying I repsect your opinion, but to simplify an art whose
mechanics you can't understand is pretty narrow. Lighten up, explore. Just as
you found Dream Theater is a maze of Trixters and Grim Reapers, there may be
some multi-dimensional rap bands you may actually like to listen too and (dare
I say it?) purchase materialby.
LATER-
-- Steve
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Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 09:17:31 -0500
From: Robert_Kasper_at_MAIN_Post_Office@voyager.capmetro.austin.tx.us (Robert Kasper)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT tour dates - USA
Message-ID: <fc5c72c0@voyager.capmetro.austin.tx.us>
At the inspired event in mid-November which rocketed the DT boys to
the top of my list of bands, James LaBrie ended the show by saying "We
will see you again in the summer of 95" (sic) Does anyone know any
tour dates for DT in the USA this summer? Austin may be the 'Live
Music Capital of the World", but Dream Theater doesn't play here
nearly enough for me to be satisfied!
On a decidedly less DT-content, Ian Moore played Memorial Stadium here
last week. While I've followed this young man since his early days of
playing at the free concerts on the Shore, I have to admit he's
getting better all the time. I daresay there hasn't been a guitarist
of his caliber to come out of this town since Stevie Ray (God rest his
soul...) Not a Petrucci, but it's a different style by far!
Time has a way of taking time
Loneliness is not only felt by fools
Alone I called to ease the pain
Yearning to be held by you
Alone, so alone I'm lost
consumed by the pain.
Pain, pain, pain
won't you hold me again?
You just laughed, Ha ha, you bitch!
My whole life was work built on the past
Time has come when all things must pass
this good thing passed away!
- Megadeth, _In My Darkest Hour_, "So Far, So Good, SO WHAT?"
- Robert Kasper, O.P.
(Anybody got a good sacrement for Petruccianity?)
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Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 10:48:06 -0500 (EST)
From: BABS@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: YTSE Convention
Message-ID: <01HQYFFQCA7U000V0V@sgenva.CC.GENESEO.EDU>
Hello everyone, it's Babs. I know that most of you know about this, but
here's a repeat for anybody that has been behind in the digests:
ATTENTION, ATTENTION - WE ARE HAVING A CONVENTION!
ATTENTION, ATTENTION - WE ARE HAVING A CONVENTION!
ATTENTION, ATTENTION - WE ARE HAVING A CONVENTION!
The YTSE Convention will take place on Saturday, June 3, at 6:00 PM at
the Smithtown, Long Island Sheraton.
DT's management has confirmed Mike Portnoy's attendance! They are currently
working with getting more members of the band to attend.
This is a meet and greet type of thing. I have reserved a banquet room
that will be set up lounge style. The cost is $25 per person. What the
$25 covers is the cost of the room rental, the bartender (cash bar) and
the deli buffet.
Anyone interested in attending please contact me ASAP. I am in the final
stages of confirming arrangements.
Thank you.
-BABS
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Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 10:58:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Yeah!!! It's official!!!
Message-ID: <199505261458.KAA14624@umbc9.umbc.edu>
Yes, its now official!!! Echolyn is opening for DT!!
They are playing June 9th in New York and June 13 in New Jersey with
DT. Both shows are already sold out.
Then DT is going to Europe for about 1 month and when they return
around mid-July, Echolyn is going to do about another 10 shows for
them. No dates are set for those shows yet. It has been rumored
that they will be East-coast shows. YEAH!!!! Echolyn is very excited and
they are going to put together a great show for the fans. Please check
these guys out and give them a good honest listen. Don't just rag on them
for not having a 7-string guitar running through a death-metal distortion
pedal.
Echolyn will be playing in the Bayou in D.C. on June 10th in case
anyone would like to check them out. They ROCK live!
These guys are very cool, hey, they even envited me to hang out in the
studio with them the next time they go to record! Cool, huh! I just
hope they don't decide to record in Europe, like they planning on, Doh!
BTW - I was listening to the Qrcyhe radio show from the other night and
Geoff Tate really has lost it. He was really straining to hit those high
notes and he didn't have any power at all. If anyone forgot to tape it,
recorded it onto a hifi vcr. Mail me if you are interested.
-- ************************************************************************** * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu * * * * You're fighting the weight of the world, * * and no one can save you this time. * * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. * * * * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater * **************************************************************************------------------------------
Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 09:40:22 -0600 (MDT) From: brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken Odiorne) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Re: YTSEJAM digest 831 Message-ID: <9505261540.AA175347@lamar.ColoState.EDU>
Hey all, I'm interested in trading for a copy of the Awake show in Denver last year. If the guy who had need of a tape of A Kick Into a Dream still wants to trade I'm here.
BTW, Mike Stoner, are you high!?!? You hold the record for the longest message I've ever seen on the Ytsejam.
Bracken (who's not flaming, just joking)
"...Without music, life would be an error." Nietzsche -Twilight of the Idols-
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Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 13:01:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: DT Summer tour Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.950526125533.19172A-100000@umbc9.umbc.edu>
Hello,
If those of you were wondering about a summer tour from DT, I just got some info from Chris Buzby from Echolyn. Echolyn is opening for DT at the NJ show and NY show June 13 and June 9th. Then DT is going to be in Europe to do Festivals for a month June 15-July15 (approx.) and then Echolyn will open for DT for ten dates in mid-July to mid-August. Echolyn is also playing in Washington at the Bayou on June 10th as a headliner. Check them out!
Otherwise things are slow here and its looking like I won't be able to find someone to go up to New York with for the YtseCon. DAMN DAMND DAMN....
Later,
Mike
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Date: Fri, 26 May 95 12:20:44 MDT From: khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 831 Message-ID: <9505261820.AA25641@nyx.cs.du.edu>
Got a question for the long-time subscribers of this list:
I just bought Tori Amos's CD "Little Earthquakes", because someone was raving about the track "Winter." It's great! If you like Kevin Moore, especially stuff like SDV & WFS, you'll like this song.
Anyway, speking of Kevin... I remember an interview with Mike Portnoy in Europe, with DT warming up in the background, and I think Kevin was playing a Tori Amos song, but I can't remember which one. All I remember from the interview is the guy asking Mike to play "March of the Tyrant"
Can anyone tell me what song Kev was playing? And didn't they cover a Tori Amos song when they plays that cover show in NY a while ago?
Rhanks...
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Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 15:46:22 -0300 From: Stanton R Guy <ab619@ccn.cs.dal.ca> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest Message-ID: <Pine.3.88.9505261549.A9195-0100000@ccn.cs.dal.ca>
On Fri, 26 May 1995, Steven Johnson, P wrote:
> Yes, gansta rap mayn't be the best message out there, but is Napalm Deth? > > -- Steve
What's wrong with Napalm Death's lyrics?
-- Richard CCC
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Date: Fri, 26 May 95 11:58:44 -0700 From: kad@iris122.biosym.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 832 Message-ID: <199505261858.LAA26395@iris122.biosym.com>
> Indeed! But I was dissapointed at the lack of attendance (like I > was at the last 'Scorps show). The Mindcrime set was, by far, the > best part of the show. I'm glad they did a full band version of > The Killing Words.
QR did Killing Words at Concord??? Zach, what are you talking about? I don't think I heard it in a broadcast or any of the shows I went to. My favorite part was Neue Regel and Promised Land, but then my fave QR album is not O:M but Rage. The whole show was absolutely mind blowing. And to those who think that Tate is loosing his voice, you better go and check him out now, he's better than ever! He even hit the high note on Take Hold Of The Flame at the show I saw! Plus, he's a super nice and very personable, I managed to talk to him on Sunday night, I don't think he noticed my SiD t-shirt but he said he reads it every week! Cool, huh? :)
> GEOFF TATE HAS TOTALLY LOST HIS VOICE. PERIOD.
Hehmmm...Steven, thanks for enlightening me by your infinite wisdom ;) (I hope you won't go off on me again, it's just a j o k e!) I assume you are talking about radio broadcast last Wednesday. I'm really puzzled with you opinion though, I think he sounded very good, arguably not as good as a couple days before that show, but it was a 6th show in a row (not one night off!) and he had a cold! At the end of the broadcast they said he woke up with no voice that morning because of a strong sinus infection. Kinga
_______________________________________________________________________________ "YOU NEED THIS! YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT!" - from Road To The Promissed Land show Kinga Dytkowska - kad@biosym.com _______________________________________________________________________________
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Date: Fri, 26 May 95 22:14 +0300 From: Aviad Shkolnikov <shkola@kids-mail.huji.ac.il> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Type O Message-ID: <m0sF4wY-0000L0C@vmbb.cts.com>
Hello! First of all, to the guy who wwrote about "Mutha's day out" - I've heard of them! They had a nice song on HBB. Are they really your freinds?
About Type O Negative - I think Peter Steele is incredibly talented, if somewhat disturbed in a beautiful way. Their songs are really weird and boring at first, but as you get to know them a little better, it's great stuff. Really sad, in a way. I have their EP, "The Origin of the Feces", and it's good. Includes some old live stuff, with incredible covers for "Hey Joe" by Hendrix (they made it "Hey Peter"...), and "Paranoid".
Well, I don't want to piss people off, so... Here's some DT content!: My drum teacher was in the Modern Drummer Con. on the 20-21 of may. Mike played their and really made a big impression (as you all know, it's the first time he was ever on clinic!). Anyway, as my teacher was the guy who came from the longest distance (Israel), he got a pass backstage. So he talked to Mike a bit, and got him to make me an autograph! It say: "Dear Aviad Hope to see you sometime Mike Portnoy Dream Theater 195" (he probably meant 1995..." He also made a little DT logo. (the one from the Awake cover, you know, on the sand...).
Take Care Ya'll! Aviad. **************************************************************************** * "We went shoping for God, * "Can't you see there's only * * and got the God of Shoping..." * one me, and that me is me" * * Galiano * Faith No More * * * - Aviad Shkolnikov IS a cool name! * ****************************************************************************
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Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 15:31:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Burstin <mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam SERVER), qryche@ios.com (Queensryche), Subject: New web site Message-ID: <199505261931.PAA15363@opal.cs.brandeis.edu>
I just wanted to let you all know that my school has changed its web site once again... (again, w/o notifying the users...) The new site is www.cs.brandeis.edu instead of cs.brandeis.edu Everyhing else remains the same. If you have a link to my page, change it to tat (full URL is in my .sig) -- +----------------------------------------+----------------+---------+ | And I'll smile and learn to pretend | Dream Theater | Michael | | And I'll never be open again | Space Dye Vest | Burstin | | And I'll have no more dreams to defend |-----Awake------+---------+ | And I'll never be open again | Let's Go Pens | +----------------------------------------+--------------------------+ For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu http://cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html
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Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 12:45:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "R. Hailey" <pass@homer15.u.washington.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Yeah!!! It's official!!! Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.950526124242.108723B-100000@homer15.u.washington.edu>
On Fri, 26 May 1995, L. Jason Hartman wrote:
> Yes, its now official!!! Echolyn is opening for DT!!
yeah!!
> them. No dates are set for those shows yet. It has been rumored > that they will be East-coast shows. YEAH!!!!
NO!!!! arrrrgh! what about us left-coasters?!
sad chris
fall dead south, to the burning river l r.christopher hailey sail up north, yours is paradise + pass@u.washington.edu when all is done l egostatic@aol.com and you meet with your forgiver + __ _.. _. _ .. . will you look away when you see all you are? echolyn "letters:a short essay"
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Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 12:19:49 -0700 From: debraun@fresno.edu (Randall Braun) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Tying off threads Message-ID: <v01520c00abeb682b6882@[204.161.33.79]>
Sorry if most of my posts get a little long.Since my father has graciously let me use his email address I only have limited time access to the net; further, this is why I often don't quote directly from others' posts: I print out hard copies of each digest to read offline and trash the the online files.
Now to tie off various threads which seem to taken up by others. I hadn't intended to start so many non-DT threads. These will be me my last on them, unless someone else wants to pursue them. Some of them are interesting posts, and hinge on various Y'jammers' tastes.
Thanks to all to have or will answer my questions on the ending of PMU; although I'd hardly call myself a DT newbie, just currently unemployed, and selective on what I can do with the little $$ I have.
On Satch's students: I knew most of them already. Actually I just commented on an unrecognized guitar instrumental I heard on my local hard AOR station. I thought to myself, "This sounds alot like Satch, or someone trying to sound like him." Then at the break they said it was Steve Vai. I know a lot of Vai DOESN'T sound like Satch, but I have heard some, particularly the older, nonexperimental stuff that DOES. Also both Satch and Vai together on one of Stuart Hamms(sp?) albums and vice versa (e.g Satch's Blue Dream) Its all Relativity Records anyway.
On rythm (sic): Actually this wasn't flaming any one person. Its just that I'm a OC person/perfectionist, and was irritated by multiple mispellings of RHYTHM in multiple posts in a single digest. I've been known to proofread and correct documents for both other students and FACULTY at Grad school. I know, just up my daily dose of Prozac and Valium, and don't let it bother me.
On polyrhythms and multiple time sigs: Although I have some music theory background, this info is condensed from a discussion with a college professor of music and music theory (PhD) and composer. Polyrhythms can usually be written in ths same time sig (e.g. 3/4 and 4/4 can both be written in 12/4 (use the LCM (least common multiple) or any other multiple thereof (e.g. 12/8); they'll coincide every 12 measures; if your'e clever in your writing, they might coincide more often. Otherwise you'll have to use some strange transtion time sig for a few measures to get them to coincide in less than 12 measures, or add or subtract a 'hiccup' note or partial measure (I think this is what JP suggested in a previously quoted interview).
On various time sigs and tabs. For those of you who have written your own tabs and found differences with the 'official' tab time sigs: You'll probably find that your times will probably be in some multiple or divisible time sig with the official one. The time sigs can be somewhat artificial; they allow the transcriber to simplify 8th, 16th, etc. note passges to 1/4 time, saves having to write all those bar lines; may also occur in different passages to indicate a change of tempo (or at least to give it that 'feel'). This is just a generalized principle, there can be 'real' musical reasons to change the time sig (e.g. 4/4 to 5/4, etc.)
On rap music, my_opinion that 'rap music is an oxymoron' still holds. We (progressive musicologists) don't acquire the megabucks for the same reason that progressive music atracts a relatively small audience: rap epiomizes simple sounds for simpletons; they iz ellot more ofem then U.S. On the other hand, there is a (very) small place for good rap (another oxymoron?); I don't think I could listen to more than one rap a day, and retain my sanity. Rap will probably go the way of disco (die a much belated death), since the audience demographics are essentially the same.
Also someone earlier some mentioned that maybe DT could try doing Orff's Carmina Burana: they whole thing, or just the rather dramatic, and much abused (by the cinematic media) opening (& closing) 'O Fortuna' passage. with the original latin or low german lyrics, or an english translation, or possibly replacing the vocals with a chorus key and/or guitar transcription. Just don't let anyone know that Carmina Burana is really just a (rather dramatic) arrangement of medieval bar songs by Orff.
--Randall L. Braun
It felt like the impossible attempt to create a sensory image of non-existence --AYN RAND, Atlas Shrugged
I never saw a u-haul being pulled by a hearse --Extreme, Cynical (see 1 Timothy 6:6-12)
You'll be gone tomorrow... Extreme, Hip Today (see Luke 12:14-21)
Shooting a gun is like shooting heroin.
Whwn I was younger, I though I knew where I stood; now that I g'm growing older, I find the ground keeps moving --Youthquakes & Hardaches
If progressive is what they'll play in heaven, its rap you'll hear in hell.
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Date: Fri, 26 May 95 16:37:34 -0400 From: Gore_Josh/furman@furman.edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: YTSEJAM digest 832 Message-ID: <H000047e02d32bac@MHS>
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Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 15:33:37 -0500 From: humm paul gregory <p-humm@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: equipment for taping shows Message-ID: <Pine.DYN.3.91.950526145738.13311A-100000@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
I want to apologize in advance for the fact that this post has only marginal DT content, but it concerns a subject which I'm pretty sure someone on ytsejam can help me out with.
I know that at least several of you jammers tape concerts which you attend. I have attended a lot of concerts, but I have never gotten into taping them because I don't have any equipment for it. I have decided that I would like to buy a walkman or other recording device to start taping shows (probably including Dream Theater if they come to Chicago or St. Louis later this summer), but I don't really know how good a walkman I need to get. I was hoping that some of you who tape shows regulary, and who are happy with the quality of your tapes, could tell me what kind of equipment you use. I know that it's possible to make really good live tapes without any really fancy equipment, because I have a huge Panasonic boom box which my parents bought for only $100 twelve years ago that makes excellent over the air tapes with two built-in mic's. I use it to tape gigs that my "band" plays, and it never distorts no matter how loud the music is. It would be perfect for taping concerts except that its size makes it very hard to conceal.
If someone could recommend a walkman or similar small recording device which would make good-sounding tapes without distorting and which costs no more than about $200 or $250, I would appreciate it very much.
If I do end up making some good tapes of Dream Theater and other bands, I would of course be happy to get into trading shows.
Thanks in advance to anyone who responds to this.
Paul Humm p-humm@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
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