YTSEJAM Digest 836
Today's Topics:
1) Re: QR
by William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
2) QR, DT, Etc.
by Christopher Taylor Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
3) Re: I must be in the front row!!!
by mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu (Michael Burstin)
4) METROPOLIS WATCH
by YBBX10C@prodigy.com (MISS JAIME K KIMPTON)
5) Hi!
by euan@waikato.ac.nz
6) stuff
by zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
7) Re: #1(2) YTSEJAM digest 833
by Deebor@aol.com
8)
by Evan Thomson <930377@edna.cc.swin.edu.au>
9) DT/FW Duesseldorf Show
by goebel@inf.fu-berlin.de (Ties Goebel)
10) Fellow Canadians
by William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca>
11) Kevin Moore's demos
by Kjetil Nordahl <kjetilno@ifi.uio.no>
12) Voices and Metropolis
by kylania@mail.top.net
13) QR set list again (YTSEJAM POST) (fwd)
by nguyen john t <jtnguyen@cs.twsu.edu>
14) Re: QR setlist (YTSEJAM POST) (fwd)
by nguyen john t <jtnguyen@cs.twsu.edu>
15) QR Set List --Whatelse-- (YTSEJAM POST) (fwd)
by nguyen john t <jtnguyen@cs.twsu.edu>
16) Re: Pull Me Under
by jforte@acl.nyit.edu (Jeff Forte)
17) Missed Shows
by JennieBear@aol.com
18) SUBCONSCIOUS
by "DANIEL JAMES TEMMESFELD" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
19) DT in NJ!
by APJ <japhet@terrapin.rutgers.edu>
20) subconscious " set list"
by WarrenDW@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 21:14:19 -0500 (CDT)
From: William Wright <wwright@galaxy.galstar.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: QR
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9505282140.A23409-0100000@galaxy.galstar.com>
> BTW, Trevor Rabin has quit Yes and Steve Howe and Rick Wakeman are back
> in Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You're JOKING... RIGHT? Holy Lord... I thought I'd never see the day.
Praise the Lord.
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Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 19:19:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christopher Taylor Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: QR, DT, Etc.
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9505281915.A22688-0100000@ese.UCSC.EDU>
Never having seen QR live before, I didn't have too much problem with the
San Jose show. I was sitting perpendicular off to the right of the
stage, so my right ear was more toast than my left, but I thought it
sounded pretty good. If Geoff normally sings like he does on the album
live, wow! Most singers can't, even those less ambitious than Geoff and
James (Is James the only singer who sings notes HIGER live than on the
album?)
Anyways, I heard on the radio afte the show that Geoff was not feeling
well that night, so one could add a cold to the rest of the diagnosis.
Is there any chance fo a second round of subconscious CDs? I was too
broke to get one on the first go around, and I'm going to be out in the
Sierras from June 24th to Aug 17th (If there's a DT show in San Fran
during that time, I'm gonna be really upset) so is there any chance fo me
being able to order one when I get back? Please say yes... :)
I also didn't think TON was that bad... I might pick up something of theirs.
~Chris
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Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 22:43:08 -0400
From: mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu (Michael Burstin)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: I must be in the front row!!!
Message-ID: <199505290243.WAA15509@cs.brandeis.edu>
>From: lark@cvfn.org (Jon Larkowski)
>Subject: Re: I must be in the front row!!!
>
>>Well, tickets went on sale this morning for the July 5 show at
>>Starlake in Pgh, and I just wanted to say that I got FRONT ROW
>>tickets, from TicketMaster... No extra hundred dollars that people
>>have had to pay for other events!!!! Anyway, I just wanted to share
>>w/ some people... :)
>
>Lucky you! How about you let the rest of us know how to get tickets so
>quickly after they are announced?
>
Ahh.. one thing that I didn't mention... this was for the Queensryche
show, not DT... I realized this after I sent it... I had origionally sent
it to SiD, but then decided to CC it here... That was the QR show that I
meant... I still have no clue about DT seats... I doubt that DT would be
in Starlake anyway... I mean... It is a little big for DT, for now at
least... Plus, I'd much rather see DT in a general admission atmospere...
I mean, after seeing them here in IC Light Ampitheater, then in Providence
as GA shows, then Berklee w/ seats... I think that for a _small_ crowd, GA
is the way to go... (not that seats kept me any further away... I had 7th
row, but walked up to the stage anyway...)
--
+----------------------------------------+----------------+---------+
| And I'll smile and learn to pretend | Dream Theater | Michael |
| And I'll never be open again | Space Dye Vest | Burstin |
| And I'll have no more dreams to defend |-----Awake------+---------+
| And I'll never be open again | Let's Go Pens |
+----------------------------------------+--------------------------+
For info about Dream Theater, finger mikeb@cs.brandeis.edu
http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~mikeb/home.html
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Date: Sun, 28 May 1995 22:54:54 EDT
From: YBBX10C@prodigy.com (MISS JAIME K KIMPTON)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: METROPOLIS WATCH
Message-ID: <013.07018937.YBBX10C@prodigy.com>
For those of you that haven't already written to me about it or ordered
copies in the past, Metropolis Watch is <as far as I know, anyway>, the
_only_ US Dream Theater fanzine, and I need
*** CONTRIBUTIONS! ***
for issue 9, which, with luck, will be on the press and ready to go by late
June. Anything! Live DT reviews! Reviews of little known prog or power
metal bands! <Such as Echolyn, mayhap?> Thoughts on the lyrics of a
particular DT song, be they inane or profound! Anything concerning DT or
the underground will be most welcome.
And while I'm thinking about it, I think I read a while back that there is
also a parody of "Space-Dye Vest" or something similar - would someone post
that or email it to me, por favor? I've already printed "Pull My Finger".
Most of you seem to enjoy seeing your words flowing across a computer
screen, so here's your chance to have them on a slightly more tangible mode
of DT insanity: black ink on paper. Oh, and did I forget to mention that
the entire band will read whatever you write? <no, that last statement is
NOT propaganda from hell, the fanzine's been sanctioned by Mike himself!>
Hey, it won't even cost you a stamp; you can email me all contributions, or
price inquiries if you're interested in ordering an issue or subscribing. <please?>
Jaime the Dragon
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Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 15:44:06 +1200
From: euan@waikato.ac.nz
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Hi!
Message-ID: <v01510101abeef0282ec5@[130.217.176.34]>
At last! I'm here. I am proof of how far DT's music has spread. I live
in Hamilton, New Zealand. New Zealand is a place where no decent band
will ever play. Why? Because the local populace are only into the current
rubbish on our commercial radio stations. Extreme cancelled for lack of
sales, and yet they had to hold an extra U2 concert as well as another
Rolling Stones concert to handle the demand! What chance do I have of ever
seeing DT live here? Not much.
I first heard DT on a compilation guitar instrumental album (the track was
Yste Jam!) and was totally blown away by the technical brilliance (and
total masturbatory excessiveness) of that track. After buying I&W I heard
what the band sounded like with decent production behind it and was even
more impressed. Now I am trying to buy ANY DT I can lay my hands on. The
only problem is distance and the exchange rate.
It is good to finally get up with the play.
See ya later,
Euan Kilgour
University of Waikato
Hamilton
New Zealand
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Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 00:53:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: stuff
Message-ID: <199505290453.AAA26619@umbc9.umbc.edu>
I don't know whether or not this is in the FAQ or not, but do we know who
wrote the lyrics to Don't Look Past Me? It sounds Kev in some parts and
JP in others. This is something I've wanted to know for a long time, but
could never remember to ask.
I'd also just like to say good-bye to everyone because my Subconscious CD
didn't come in the mail yesterday so I'm afraid I'm going to have to go and
drive off a bridge, so thanks for all the insights and conversation and I
guess I'll see you in the "Afterlife." <sorry, couldn't resist>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
<"...Thought disorder; ___ ___ ___ _ _ ___ ___ "Balls and chunk is >
<Dream control. Now | __||_ _|| __|| V || __| |_ | where it's at." >
<they read my mind on |__ | | | | __| \ / | __| / / --Mike Portnoy, LiT >
<the radio...But where|___| |_| |___| V |___| |___|"I think SpontanUity!">
<was the Garden of Eden?" szebro1@gl.umbc.edu --John Petrucci, X103>
<--John Petrucci, Voices Radio Show>
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Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 03:16:21 -0400
From: Deebor@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: #1(2) YTSEJAM digest 833
Message-ID: <950529031619_15614166@aol.com>
At the end of Pull Me Under, he sings "oh that this too too solid flesh would
melt" and I'm guessing that it cuts off because he just finishes singing the
word "melt". Cool ending
Deebor
"the."- Dream Theater, Innocence Faded
Like my sig?
PS- Does anyone have the broadcasted tour on tape for San Jose, May 24? Was
that the one broadcasted throughout the US? I was there! Cool, eh?
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Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 21:34:36 +1000 (EST)
From: Evan Thomson <930377@edna.cc.swin.edu.au>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950529213023.25763B-100000@edna.cc.swin.edu.au>
Just thought I'd drop a quick (albeit bitter and twisted) note from the
land of Oz.
DT touring the U.S. again....
you Americans suck.
well, that's it.
Evan
P.S. Any huge Yes fans, can you please mail me, I have some questions
concerning which albums to buy next. Brilliant news about Howe and
Wakeman re-joining...
Mmmmmm new Primus LP in 2 weeks!
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Date: Mon, 29 May 95 13:33 MET DST
From: goebel@inf.fu-berlin.de (Ties Goebel)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT/FW Duesseldorf Show
Message-ID: <m0sG34o-0001xMC@inf.fu-berlin.de>
Hi!
I just received a copy of the radio broadcast of the DT/FW show
Duesseldorf 1995 (90 min., incl. Damage Inc. & Perfect Strangers). :) :)
If anybody`s interested in trading, email me !
Ties
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Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 09:21:31 -0600 (MDT)
From: William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Fellow Canadians
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9505290941.A12468-0100000@casual1>
'jammers,
I'd like to say hi to the two Canadians who recented posted letters. I
graduated from U. of Waterloo in '93 in engineering and to Rob (I think)
I'm from Thorold originally (neighbour of St. Catharines). My sister had
a similar e-mail address because she went to Niagara College as well in
Radio and Broadcasting (just graduated).
Can anyone predict if DT will play anywhere else in Canada besides
Toronto or Vancouver (ie Calgary!)?
Will
U. of Calgary
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Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 19:40:06 +0000 (BST)
From: Kjetil Nordahl <kjetilno@ifi.uio.no>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Kevin Moore's demos
Message-ID: <199505291740.9307.baugi.ifi.uio.no@ifi.uio.no>
Hello out there.
I got the Kevin Moore demos tape Saturday. Thank you to Mark Tiplady for
sending it to me.
You were all right in that the tape was _different_ from DT. But I think
most of it is cool stuff. It didn't take the tape long to grow on me. But
then I know my taste in music is rather wide. Wider than most of my friends
anyway.
BTW. Does anyone know if any of the songs are released? I guess
'Song for Eric' is on a Tori Amos cd. And of course SDV is on
Awake. But the others - are they new projects. Like possibly-coming-on-
Kevins-next-album songs?
Any news on what he is doing now?
- Kjetil -
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Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 14:39:21 -0500
From: kylania@mail.top.net
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Voices and Metropolis
Message-ID: <199505291939.OAA03258@dns.top.net>
I'm opening myself up for a lot here so here goes.... <grimice>
On the subject of Geoff's voice going...What about James'. On I&W it
sounded beautiful! Yes, there was alot of producing involved but still
beautiful. On Awake it seemed a lot more "rough". I winced at the first
few words I heard...
I accounted it to their touring... Just my 2 cents.
Before flames burn down my house...I do love DT! (All their stuff!) =)
Another question...
Is there a Metropolis-Part II? I loved the first part.
And one final clarification: What is the correct pronuncation of "Ytsejam"?
I know it's kinda hard to do that with just letters.... Thanks for your help!!
Dave.
"In the Afterlife, Will dark be bright? Will cold be warm? Will the day
have no night?" Afterlife/WDADU.
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Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 15:01:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: nguyen john t <jtnguyen@cs.twsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: QR set list again (YTSEJAM POST) (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950529150042.7971A-100000@emcity>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 23:51:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Dietr Miller <ytsejam@strauss.udel.edu>
To: "John T. Nguyen" <jtnguyen@kirk.cs.twsu.edu>
Subject: QR set list again (YTSEJAM POST)
Thanks LOSERS for posting the set list. I wanted to wait for the show,
God Dammit. Maybe I can forget it or something.
---One other thing, how do people reply to a post in the same issue of
the Jam? Weird, ain't it?
Andy
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-- Andrew Miller || _ ^ _ "Bartender... --
-- ytsejam@strauss.udel.edu || ( /V\ ) bring another --
-- University of Delaware || M drink for --
-- V-Mail (302) 831-4000 ext. 87397 || | their --
-- **Memory save me I'm fuckin up.** || | favorite son" --
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Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 15:02:15 -0500 (CDT)
From: nguyen john t <jtnguyen@cs.twsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: QR setlist (YTSEJAM POST) (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950529150147.7971B-100000@emcity>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sat, 27 May 1995 13:35:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Dietr Miller <ytsejam@strauss.udel.edu>
To: "John T. Nguyen" <jtnguyen@kirk.cs.twsu.edu>
Subject: Re: QR setlist (YTSEJAM POST)
First of all I just want to say---- DON'T POST THE QUEENSRYCHE SET LIST!!
Somebody post that guy directly. Some of us are still waiting for the
show to find out what they play. Like I haven't heard enough of the
setlist already.
Bootlegs--- If someone is able to get me a copy of the Queensryche radio
show or "A KICK INTO A DREAM" please e-mail me with that
info.
Concert News-- If anyone has a chance to see Echolyn with DT, go for
it. I hope they do announce more East Coast dates,
because I'm there. Personal Note-- 4 more days til
King Crimson!!!!!!!!! (That Dave thing was a HOAX)
Yes News--- If you haven't heard Trevor Rabin is out of YES and, Steve
Howe and Rick Wakeman are back in. The new line up consists
of 70s band-- Andreson, Howe, Wakeman, Squire, and White.
Does anybody like me think these guys can put out a solid
album.
One last note I just (finally) got my Kevin Moore tape about a week ago.
It is somewhat industrial but it excludes the heavy guitar (i.e.
Something I can Never Have NIN). It is excellent and I hope to see him
get picked up soon. Is it going out of reach to say this man Could open
for DT. I mean He didn't have a fight with the guys, he just left
because he plays different music.
Still waiting for SubCon--Andy
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-- Andrew Miller || _ ^ _ "Bartender... --
-- ytsejam@strauss.udel.edu || ( /V\ ) bring another --
-- University of Delaware || M drink for --
-- V-Mail (302) 831-4000 ext. 87397 || | their --
-- **Memory save me I'm fuckin up.** || | favorite son" --
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Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 15:03:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: nguyen john t <jtnguyen@cs.twsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: QR Set List --Whatelse-- (YTSEJAM POST) (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950529150257.7971C-100000@emcity>
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 00:03:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Dietr Miller <ytsejam@strauss.udel.edu>
To: "John T. Nguyen" <jtnguyen@kirk.cs.twsu.edu>
Subject: QR Set List --Whatelse-- (YTSEJAM POST)
Sorry I got a little pissed. I most likely wanted to see it anyway. I
was unaware of the spolier title. Well just make sure you do that for
the New York DT shows (eventhough I'll most likely read 'em anyway).
Hey am I the only college kid (you don't count John) left with an account
over the summer. Its great I don't know what I would do without the 'Jam.
My buddie who sends this mail out for me (John), wasn't quick enough to
get the mail out in time to break the Yes story. How about that guys?
What does everyone think.
i am counting the days till King Crimson (4!!!!) and Queensryche (over
fifty). I feel shity because I am only going to one show at this point,
but that soon will change, payday is around the corner. Is there anybody
else who is going to see 'Ryche on July 19th, e-mail me. Later Jammers.
Andy
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-- Andrew Miller || _ ^ _ "Bartender... --
-- ytsejam@strauss.udel.edu || ( /V\ ) bring another --
-- University of Delaware || M drink for --
-- V-Mail (302) 831-4000 ext. 87397 || | their --
-- **Memory save me I'm fuckin up.** || | favorite son" --
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Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 17:23:25 -0400
From: jforte@acl.nyit.edu (Jeff Forte)
To: Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Pull Me Under
Message-ID: <95052917232541@acl.nyit.edu>
>Ok, since everybody's talking about the ending I thoguht I might talk
>about the lyrical part. What is James singing there? I can't understand
>it live or on record. It sounds like it changes so he's not repeating it
>I guess..well bye
>
>adam
LaBrie is saying:
Oh that this too
Too solid flesh
Would melt
It is...just like the rest of the song is based somewhat on Hamlet. You should
try to download the FAQ because this is answered in better detail in there.
Later
________________________________________________________________________________
Jeff Forte jforte@acl.nyit.edu
"I wanted to find An Innocent Mind, but only found myself waiting"
--Kevin Moore
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Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 18:28:04 -0400
From: JennieBear@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Missed Shows
Message-ID: <950529182804_16038095@aol.com>
The following appeared in Ytsejam #835:
>So what is up. I haven't been around for a while and I just wanted to
know if DT was going on tour again here inthe States? If so whaen are
comming to San Francisc?<
For some odd reason, I see the request for SF tour dates quite often...
Well, you just missed it! Dream Theater was in town (at the Warfield)
December 1, 1994. (AWESOME show!) As for future U.S. tour dates, you'll get
'em as soon as anyone else finds out...
Jen
--
"Could we see clearer in a virtual reality?" - Magellan
"I am the beat of your pulse/the computer word made flesh" - Queensryche
jenniebear@aol.com kethry@netcom.com
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Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 20:42:00 -500 (EST)
From: "DANIEL JAMES TEMMESFELD" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: SUBCONSCIOUS
Message-ID: <2FCA6E8C.0CD8.3383.000@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
FUCK YEAH, MIKE!!!!!!!!!
I got home for the weekend (from school), and low and behold, there
was my precious #348 SUBCONSCIOUS on my bed. I ripped open the
package and ran up to use my brother's CD player (mine's still at
school till the end of the school year). He *was* listening to
something at the time, but *I* didn't care.
Here's some first reactions:
Eve- cool samples...
ACOS- holy crap, it's awesome, I listened to it about 5 times over
the weekend (in fact I'm listening to it now), can't wait until the
EP
O Holy Night- interesting
Carry That Weight- Beatles who????
Don't Look Past Me- hummmm...
Wanted Dead Or Alive- hilarious, I love it!!!!
To Live Forever- it does seem to be sped up (instrument-wise), though
LaBrie doesn't seem much different, why does Baghdad care if
Patriot missiles are over Cuba?
The Gorilla Session- noodling is a good discription
Mission:Impossible- great jam, I loved that show, they should bring
it back and have DT do the intro music
Back Pain Jam- wow, talk about improv
Awake Heavy Jam- it's good, but *I* wouldn't call it heavy (but then
again, I listen to Testament, Megadeth, Tourniquet, Betrayal,
Deliverance...)
Experimental- John Myung?? cool!
Tears & Winter- never heard the original(s) but still great stuff
Mystery- software comes to mind...
Can't wait for the ACOS EP *and* WHEN DREAM AND JAMES UNITE!!!!!!
Dan Temmesfeld
s1133627@cedarville.edu
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Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 21:09:10 -0400
From: APJ <japhet@terrapin.rutgers.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT in NJ!
Message-ID: <199505300109.VAA10218@terrapin.rutgers.edu>
OK! I collected a bit of info and found out about a DT show in NJ.
They are playing Fri June 9th at the Birchhill Nightclub in Old
Bridge, NJ (908) 536-0650. Ticket prices are $12.50 in advance and
$15 at the show (that's cheaper than a CD!) so I'd suggest you
get over there and check 'em out if you're in the area. I'll be
there 4 sure :)
APJ
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Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 21:58:42 -0400
From: WarrenDW@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: subconscious " set list"
Message-ID: <950529215841_16751851@aol.com>
If anyone's wondering why I posted Randy Haskin's explanatory set list from
Subconscious on Jan # 835 it is because I screwed up while trying to edit it
for use on my copy of the CD and hit the wrong key and before I could stop
it....it was.......Ytsejam bound!
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