YTSEJAM digest 1104

From: ytsejam@arastar.com
Date: Thu Nov 02 1995 - 15:33:13 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 1104

    Today's Topics:

      1) RE: Dream Theater Wallpaper
     by P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk
      2) Yes, it's you...
     by paul.evans@wlv.esltd.com
      3) Speaking accents
     by William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca>
      4) re: bafu
     by WildKoba@aol.com
      5) ACoS as a timekeeper, Scheme
     by The Digital Man <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
      6) Re: Directions to CT show?
     by jtack1@ic3.ithaca.edu
      7) how to leave
     by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
      8) Much Music / Canadian Jammers!
     by larsh@tor250.org (Lars Hellsten)
      9) IRC DT Room
     by laussade@enet.net (Ktulu)
     10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1102
     by Mike <syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
     11) Savatage: _Dead Winter Dead_
     by Matt Masi <dblagnt@tmok.com>
     12) Re: trey's #ed comments (IVANHOE _Symbols of Time_)
     by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
     13) Acoustic Dream Dub in SF area
     by Learng2Liv@aol.com
     14) aww yeahh
     by dark star <sdh9b@virginia.edu>
     15) The MTV monopoly
     by The Digital Man <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
     16) Ravages of Time, ADs
     by Mad dog <jmh@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
     17) CD update tape 2
     by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>

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    Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:28:54 +0000
    From: P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: RE: Dream Theater Wallpaper
    Message-ID: <"3867*/I=P/S=McLoughlin/OU=bra0108/O=icl/PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS>

    Forgot to tell you that I have a picture of THE DREAM THEATER in
    Monterey as Wallpaper on my PC - one of my holiday pics.
             Patricia

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    Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:24:32 -0800
    From: paul.evans@wlv.esltd.com
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Non Receipt Notification Requested)
    Subject: Yes, it's you...
    Message-ID: <"2cf81a1f.951102175257-0800*/G=paul/S=evans/OU=wlv/O=enterprise solutions limited/PRMD=esltd/ADMD= /C=us/"@MHS>

    --HaWSceX2k7RJ1RjjJG4Yhtn9iFIQM1sQ
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    --HaWSceX2k7RJ1RjjJG4Yhtn9iFIQM1sQ
    Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

    Yes Ben Laussade, I was referring to you. I had just read a post
    (I thought by you) where you went off on some 'em tangent. I thought
    it was funny, so I made a reference to it, but it came out sounding
    as if I thought you liked SG. Sorry for the confusion. Hmm, I see
    a smiley on your post, and I can't tell if your being sarcastic or not.
    Oh well... :-) back at ya.

    DT content - DT ROOLZ!!!

    Paul

    P.S. Now that the Jamz are slowing down, I guess I'll actually have to
    find some work to do...:-(
    --HaWSceX2k7RJ1RjjJG4Yhtn9iFIQM1sQ--

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    Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 17:57:54 -0700 (MST)
    From: William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Speaking accents
    Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951102175518.18835B-100000@casual1>

    'jammers,

    Can everyone post their speaking accent in his/her next message? I'd
    like to read people's messages with their accent in mind. You know,
    Boston, New York, Tennessee, etc...

    Eg. coffee ===> cawfee, cohfee, cahfee, caaaaaaaaaaaawfeeeeeeeee (southern)

    Thanks in advance

    Will

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    Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 22:15:30 -0500
    From: WildKoba@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Cc: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: re: bafu
    Message-ID: <951102220406_96618856@emout05.mail.aol.com>

    once again, brilliant. particularly the bit with kevin's testicular cancer.

    however...

    mr. j. is not the only clarintetist on the list......

    and where is that carlo guy?? is he dead?

    ".you can get better results using anusol......" -frank zappa

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    Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 22:17:53 -0500 (EST)
    From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
    To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: ACoS as a timekeeper, Scheme
    Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.951102221550.156410A-100000@moose.uvm.edu>

    Hey. First, I use "ACoS" (the song) to time my laundry. I put it in,
    turn it on, go back to my room, and start the song. When the song ends,
    I gather my quarters, go to the machine, and it's just ending. Works
    every time.

    Anyway, I forget who asked about Scheme. If you mean the programming
    language, e-mail me and I'll see what I can remember.

    Lates!
    -Chris

     <#@$%&*%#$&(#@!$^(&^%@!%^&*():$%#!=@!#%+^%&~$!$%^*)^#$!#$%&*(+^%!\^%&*;$%^>

                             My parents went to Aruba
                           and all I got was this lousy
     cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu .sig file. http://www.uvm.edu/~cmerlo

     <#@$%&*%#$&(#@!$^(&^%@!%^&*():$%#!=@!#%+^%&~$!$%^*)^#$!#$%&*(+^%!\^%&*;$%^>

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    Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 19:29:37 -0500 (EST)
    From: jtack1@ic3.ithaca.edu
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: Directions to CT show?
    Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.951102191725.150033G-100000@ic3.ithaca.edu>

    >
    > Directions to the Club [El 'N Gee]:
    >
    > You'll go through 3 sets of traffic lights. After the 3rd set of lights,
    > there is a LARGE parking lot (free/public) on your left. Park in there. The
    > club is directly across the street.

    Maybe it's just me, but is anyone sensing that there's something missing
    from these directions?? What traffic lights??? What STREET??? And how
    do you get to this street???

    I really appreciate the effort you've made to help us out, Buck, but we
    out-of-staters are a little slow. Can you give us a highway and maybe
    even an exit number or street name before you start talking number of
    traffic lights and parking lots?

    Thanks!!! :)

    Jodi

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    Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 20:26:00 +0800
    From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
    To: ytsejam
    Subject: how to leave
    Message-ID: <9511030426.AA02531@anthor.arastar.com>

    > Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 14:02:55 -0500 (EST)
    > From: "Brad E. Kessler" <bekessle@mailbox.syr.edu>
    > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    >
    > does anyone know how to get off this listserv?

    To leave the list send:

    unsubscribe ytsejam

    to ytsejam-request@arastar.com with a subject of "asdf". Note
              ^^^^^^^^
    that the subject is *not* "unsubscribe" nor is the address
    "ytsejam@arastar.com".

    --
    Ken Bibb		"If the boundary breaks I'm no longer alone
    kbibb@arastar.com	 Don't discourage me
    jester@crash.cts.com	 Bring out the stars/On the first day"
    				David Sylvian--"The First Day"
    

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    Date: 02 Nov 95 18:06:42 -0500 From: larsh@tor250.org (Lars Hellsten) To: Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Much Music / Canadian Jammers! Message-ID: <224_9511022045@tor250.org>

    Just thought y'all might want to know that there -IS- hope of getting more Dream Theater played on the Power 30! I've noticed that recently most of the videos that get played are requests, as opposed to standard programming (ie. videos that get played in rotation).

    Anyway, I e-mailed Much Music last Sunday requesting Fates Warning's "Monument" on the Power 30. Well, it's Thursday today and they played my request! It was cool hearing my name read out on the air! :) Anyway, my reasoning behind them playing it is that it's a pretty good (well-produced) video, fairly recent, and I've NEVER seen them play Fates before, so chances are they would only play it upon request.

    If people keep requesting somewhat obscure videos like stuff by DT other than "Lie" (I find it interesting that other prog bands like King's X and Savatage - whom AFAIK are probably less popular than DT - get played every now and then, whereas DT hardly ever get played... is it just that DT are too good, or what?) and FW, I'm sure they'll end up playing them more often eventually.

    So send e-mail to Much Music! Remember to say where you're from, and keep it short. That seems to be most effective. I've tried giving them big sermons on how they don't play enough prog before without much success, but this was just a 2-line spur of the moment thing after being on some FW web page...

    The address once again is: power30@muchmusic.com

    Request DT! Especially TTT, Another Day, or CiaW.

    Btw, as if I haven't said it already, Ivanhoe rule! Does anyone know where I can get a CD of theirs?! Someone posted a couple of e-mail addresses, but I tried those and haven't receievd a reply. This band really needs to be publicized a bit ... anyone want to start a petition? :) I can't believe that there can be a band this great out there, and I can't even find any of their albums (cdnow.com doesn't have anything, and I doubt there's anywhere in Toronto where I could get it either). And who knows how many other great European prog-metal bands there are out there that are unheard of in North America. I guess North Americans just SUCK! -- |Fidonet: Lars Hellsten 1:259/412 |Internet: larsh@tor250.org

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    Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:41:19 -0700 From: laussade@enet.net (Ktulu) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: IRC DT Room Message-ID: <199511030441.VAA01983@maple.enet.net>

    Geez, How come no one's ever in the DT chat room. Doesn't SOMEONE want to talk to me?? This way I don't even have to pay for AOL time to talk to real live Dream Theater fans. Somebody answer me!!!!!! (in the chat room, that is.)

    Ben Laussade laussade@enet.net

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    Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:45:45 -0500 (EST) From: Mike <syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1102 Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.951102234500.4790B-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>

    I have a simple question..

    is anyone opening the Birch Hill show? Maybe we can get echolyn to do it. Is there one, or is DT playing straight? anyone?

    m.

    np: elp (in the hot seat)

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    Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 21:41:40 -0500 From: Matt Masi <dblagnt@tmok.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Savatage: _Dead Winter Dead_ Message-ID: <199511030241.VAA06495@stone.tmok.com>

    Sorry for the no DT content, but I really have to put in a good word for this album. I'd heard a few 'Jammers talking about its release a few days ago, and saw a preview for it on the Hardrock mailing list. The guy said it was going to be a concept album/rock opera, and that piqued my interest (to give you a hint, _Misplaced Childhood_, _Operation : Mindcrime_, and _Hemispheres_ are high on my listening agenda). I picked it up yesterday (along with the "Silent Man" CD single which I was shocked to find at a local chain electronics store <--- DT content!) After four solid listens to _Dead Winter Dead_, I can truly say that I am blown away. I would classify this band (or at least this album) as prog-metal, but not on the same level of technicality as DT. That's not a bad thing. To be honest, great technical skill only does so much for me; it's really the melodies and lyrics that move me most. The album is truly a "rock opera" (although I think "metal opera" would be a more accurate description), and it deals with a really important subject that's probably more relevant today than when it was recorded - the war in Bosnia. The whole thing really flows together smoothly, and I can hear some definite musical themes that run throughout. For instance, in the song "Mozart and Madness", and old man plays his cello on top of a pile of rubble every night amidst the bombing and death. When he does this, the band breaks into a classical piece (first Mozart, and later Beethoven - I've heard them a million times, but couldn't tell you the name of the compositions ;). This part kicks my ass, and it's probably the most progressive thing on the album. Just as the album is winding down, and you think it can't get any better, the last song, "Not What You See", hits you over the head. One word - wow. The melodies, the lyrics, and the vocal harmonies at the end make this song my favorite on the album. Two words - get this. But don't expect DT. The only thing that might turn some people off is the sort of 80's metal sounding, over-the-top guitar soloing that goes on in certain parts (I think Mike Bahr put it "wanker guitar" ;). The slower, melodic, emotionally stirring guitar parts more than make up for it, though, if you don't go for the wanker guitar. Also, the deep, growly vocals in some parts may turn you off, but again, the counterpart to that is the silky smooth, angelic voice that Zak Stevens also uses. I personally like both. One final question - I wasn't familiar with Savatage before this album, but I heard that they have another concept album called _Streets_. You've seen what I think of _DWD_, so would I like _Streets_, Savatage fans? Peace, and I'm out. Or something... ,----------------------------------------------,-----------------------------, | Matt Masi, 'Hiker/Progger - dblagnt@tmok.com | Rush - Marillion - Yes - | |==============================================| Dream Theater - Echolyn - | | "What's so unpleasent about being drunk?" | King Crimson - Primus - | | "You ask a glass of water." - Ford Prefect, | Dixie Dregs - Kansas - | | _The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy_ | Queensryche - Fates Warning | '----------------------------------------------'-----------------------------'

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    Date: Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:42:44 PST From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: trey's #ed comments (IVANHOE _Symbols of Time_) Message-ID: <9511030442.AA12187@tengs1.teng>

    > > 1) > >Ivanhoe didn't impress me that much. At the > >time, it seemed an Iron Maiden-ripoff with some keyboards thrown in at > >random. > >Maybe they are hard to appreciate when you hear them for the first > >time, or maybe the music has changed since then, but I can't imagine that > >this band now sounds alike to DT. > > Something isn't right here. From the song I have they could almost BE Dream > Theater. > > 2) > I promise fi you guys haven't downloaded the samples from either my page or > another, you're missing out. GET 'EM > > http://junix.ju.edu/UsrWebPages/tallen/home.html (they're in the DT section) > > Trey Allen (T-Stretch) - tallen@junix.ju.edu - > http://junix.ju.edu/UsrWebPages/tallen/home.html

    I picked up this CD Tuesday (Compact Disc Warehouse in Sunnyvale for you South Bay 'jammers, East Bay 'jammers, check the one in Newark, but I've never been up there). I liked it a lot on first listen. Second listen, I was like, "what the hell?" But now I love it! Vocalist sounds like old Ray Adler in a lot of places. The drummer sounds a lot like Zonder... wait! The music doesn't really sound like Fates. I could be wrong, but it reminds me somewhat of Echolyn as far as crazy rythm changes go, except I'd classify it more as metal overall. The second tune, "Wide Open" sounds somewhat like MASTERMIND, but that's about it. The thing I like *most* is that the bass really stands out in the mix--- Dream Theater _take note_.

    Really good stuff. I think most 'jammers would like it, probably more than liked _Shadow Gallery_, although SG sounds more like DT (how can anyone say that "Deeper Than Life" doesn't sound like DT?). Whereas, I liked SG *a lot* on first listen, the key interludes kind of wear on me after a while. IVANHOE, grows on me more and more (I've only listened to it about 10 times now). Some of the melodies aren't that interesting, but the music is complicated enough for that not to matter all that much. The one ballad is most excellent (and I'm not one for ballads). They have a woman doing co-vocals (is that the right term) on this song, "By A Feeling."

    Note: They don't really have a sound like any of the bands I mentioned above. They kind of sound like, themselves...

    Zach

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    Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 01:45:12 -0500 From: Learng2Liv@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Acoustic Dream Dub in SF area Message-ID: <951103014512_11466465@emout05.mail.aol.com>

    For those of you within reasonable range (or for the nuts who arent) I am willing to dub Acoustic Dreams. Please Emaill me if you are interested. It is free, and I only want about 2 bucks for return postage. Let me know if you are interested.

    Learng2Liv@aol.com

    (no, Im not an AOL newbie, just have this account cuz my parents are paying for it...: )

    Jon

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    Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:33:00 -0500 From: dark star <sdh9b@virginia.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: aww yeahh Message-ID: <v01530500acbf5922ae18@[128.143.234.126]>

    yeah bitch-- WE BEAT FLORIDA STATE!!!! MOTHERFUCKER!!!

    i'm in uva pep-band... got fucked up during the game... and i and the rest of the student body are getting FUCKED UP TONIGHT.

    "UVA-- PAVING THE WAY FOR ANOTHER NEBRASKA CHAMPIONSHIP"-- sign at the game

    oh yeah, and dream theater kicks ass (just like us tonight)

    don't flame me.. i'm sort of faced...

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    Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 01:27:47 -0500 (EST) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: The MTV monopoly Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.951103012610.131856B-100000@moose.uvm.edu>

    Has anyone figured out yet why MTV doesn't have any competition? (VH-1 doesn't count - it's the same company.) Why hasn't anyone started a cable music station devoted to rock? I mean, country has one for God's sakes! What about us?

    -Chris

    <#@$%&*%#$&(#@!$^(&^%@!%^&*():$%#!=@!#%+^%&~$!$%^*)^#$!#$%&*(+^%!\^%&*;$%^>

    My parents went to Aruba and all I got was this lousy cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu .sig file. http://www.uvm.edu/~cmerlo

    <#@$%&*%#$&(#@!$^(&^%@!%^&*():$%#!=@!#%+^%&~$!$%^*)^#$!#$%&*(+^%!\^%&*;$%^>

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    Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:32:52 -0700 (MST) From: Mad dog <jmh@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Ravages of Time, ADs Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.951103000136.3043B-100000@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>

    so this has nothing to do with RoT whatsoever. this has to do with AD.

    _Another Day_ is such a great song. Oh wait, you thought i meant _Acoustic Dreams_... well before the masses hit "d" in unison, it is about AD (the album). though if you havent seen it but plan to (despite the efforts of the postal system and procrastination of Mike Bahr :) then you might want to delete this now anyways. then again, you might want to delete it on a lark inspite of the fact that you are familiar with AD (the album)...

    I just borrowed a copy of AD (the CD, not the song) (thanks Fern) but havent listened to it in it's entirety yet, just skimming through about a minute of each song... like AD (the song, not the CD). _L.I.E_ surprised me, i expected to hear more of _Lie_ in it i guess, but then again, i only heard it once and actually havent heard _Lie_ in a bit. The bass part is really noticably from _Lie_ though... We also heard all of the acoustic cover of _Bad_. Man. I really really [edited for your protection - 77s] really want to hear DT do this one electrically live... as long as James finds some way to make the "oh oo-ohh" bit sound respectable... :)

    And yes, I realize that that quote really doesnt help anyone not familiar with either the U2 or the DT version... U2 doing that at Live Aid... man...

    Delete now unless you've seen the cover, cause other wise it'll make no sense at all man... even less than the above...

    Anyways, my other point. Whats with the cover man? Me and Fernando (fine, it was Fernando) figure that the girl is on the bed, from the bit of floor. What is she holding? is it that mirror/"cold metal frame" thing being discussed recently or is it an odd-shaped walkman like it looks like? if it is, what is she listening to? AD? (the album) AD? (the song) Alice Donut? da? (aka Daniel Amos [a band, not a person])... or something maybe a little more appropriate considering this list... NIN?

    DISCLAIMER: I am _NOT_ making fun of the artwork... it is awesome... miles ahead of SUB. I am just unsure as to *exactly* what it's s'posed to be... but that may be the beauty of it...

    A "Mad dog shaven head bottle boy Freak" aka John Haveman "But you know that love can be as hard as six inch nails" - S.H./J.H.

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    Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:52:21 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: durnik@indirect.com Subject: CD update tape 2 Message-ID: <199511030752.AAA09726@bud.indirect.com>

    LIMITED EDITION COMPACT DISCS Information and Update Current to 11/2/1995

    Currently available: Rush "Cygnus"

    Currently open to pre-ordering: Dream Theater "When Dream and Today Unite"

    SOLD OUT: Dream Theater "Subconscious" Dream Theater "Acoustic Dreams"

    NOTE: INTERNET EMAIL ADDRESS CHANGE: I am now durnik@indirect.com

    ============================================================================ DISCLAIMER: These recordings fall into a grey area of law as an uncopyrighted recording produced in such a manner that at least one facet of the production occurs in a country (namely Italy) in which it is legal to do so. In the USA, it is permissible to sell used import CDs only if they are labeled as such. This is such a CD. Be aware that the various powers-that-be are collecting nothing for this. ============================================================================

    Of course, that's all cover-my-butt lawyerspeak. I hope you all will want to be a part of this. I make roughly minimum wage doing it, so you know I'm not out to scam you. In all humility, I appeal to anyone who might not think too kindly of my endeavor, and ask that they might give me the benefit of the doubt on this one. Friends? :)

    1. What is Cygnus? 2. What is When Dream And Today Unite? 3. What is Antiquities? 4. What is the release schedule? 5. How can I get my own copy of one of these CDs? 6. Orders received for Acoustic Dreams and When Dream and Today Unite. ============================================================================

    1. What is Cygnus?

    Hi all! Allow me to introduce myself, if you aren't familiar with me yet. I'm Mike Bahr, humble maker of special-edition CDs. I noticed a lot of the mass-manufactured bootleg offerings were spiralling quite high in price and yet offered little for the die-hard fan, and I concocted a scheme by which I could make around minimum wage by producing CDs on my own, CDs that would fill the demand for REAL rarities and special songs, unreleased items, live shows, and the like.

    Basically, since no CD plant will print them for me, I have to rent studio and equipment time and do it myself. So far, it's working. :)

    Fortunately, and for this I am very relieved, my Subconscious CD has been incredibly well-received by the net community, especially the Ytsejam mailing list. I just do what I can do and leave the rest up to God, and I guess the Almighty isn't disappointing you folks. People from all walks of life, all countries of the world, both sexes, all races, and all religions have joined in on the limited edition CD projects, and I am very happy to have you all along for the ride. I'll keep making CDs as long as you folks are willing to keep buying them. Thanks so _very_ much... :)

    And now, I do have copies of Rush "Cygnus" CD remaining.

    It is a Rush recording from the mystical Hemispheres tour of 1978. I still have some copies available. It was recorded from a soundboard reel and the quality is comparable to that of Electric Ladyland '74. It's full stereo and the bass and vocals are very clear, the effects very defined, but the drum sound has heard better days. It's still better than 99% of all the Rush shows on tape, I can attest to that specifically. :)

    Track listing:

    1. Anthem 2. A Passage to Bangkok 3. By-Tor and the Snow Dog -> i. At the Tobes of Hades ii. Across the Styx iii. Of the Battle 4. Xanadu 5. Something For Nothing (glitch at end, missing nearly nothing) 6. The Trees 7. Cygnus X-1 (dropout at end, missing last 16 secs before bells) 8. Cygnus X-1 Book II: Hemispheres i. Prelude ii. Apollo iii. Dionysus iv. Armageddon (dropout at end, missing ~40 secs of closing) v. Cygnus vi. The Sphere 9. Circumstances 10. A Farewell to Kings

    The dropouts aren't a big deal really, but in the interest of honesty I am pointing them out. They were on the master reel. Also, like Subconscious and Acoustic Dreams, this CD does not bear the name "Rush". It says "Cygnus" on the label and lists cover credits. Don't be fooled; it's Rush, just like the others are DT. It's for legal reasons. Before Italy started making boots in 1991, all US vinyl boots were the same way.

    2. What is When Dream and Today Unite?

    This work, still in production, contains all the songs from When Dream and Day Unite, only performed live with James LaBrie at the helm. It should be released around Christmas. Here's the tracklisting:

    1. A Fortune In Lies 2. Status Seeker 3. Ytsejam 4. Another Hand/The Killing Hand 5. Light Fuse and Get Away 6. Mission Impossible 7. Afterlife 8. The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun 9. Only A Matter Of Time 10. March of the Tyrant 11. To Live Forever 12. Moon Bubbles

    I've already begun accepting early orders for this, if you don't mind the wait. The details on ordering are below.

    I'm currently in the process of creating the CDs themselves. They will get sent for printing, emulsion inks, packaging, and liner printing at the end of November, setting me up for a Christmas release. The CD printing plants are a bit overbooked just now because of the spring release schedules, so this might take a little longer... but I expect no undue problems. After all, somehow, Acoustic Dreams made it out on schedule, hard as it was.

    3. What is Antiquities?

    This one is just now taking shape from being a primordial ooze of proteins and algae into a finished, gleaming, streamlined CD. I'll have more details on it here as it gets developed. The master tapes are already being prepared to be made into a single master, and I've got an artist hard at work on the cover, as well as contracting for CD plant pressing time. Man, it sucks to have to do stuff this far in advance to get a CD out on time! :)

    4. What is the release schedule?

    Here is the current schedule of releases as I see it (all dates estimated):

    NOW - Rush: "Cygnus" released/shipping NOW - Dream Theater: "When Dream and Today Unite" ordering begins 12/15/1995 - Dream Theater: "Antiquities" ordering begins 12/25/1995 - Dream Theater: "When Dream and Today Unite" released/shipping 01/01/1996 - Dream Theater: "Scenes From a Memory" ordering begins 01/30/1996 - Dream Theater: "Antiquities" released/shipping 02/--/1996 - Public Affection: "Death of a Dictionary", details TBA 03/17/1996 - Dream Theater: "Scenes From a Memory" released/shipping 03/--/1996 - Rush: To be announced 04/--/1996 - Live or Type O-Negative: To be announced 05/--/1996 - Dream Theater: To be announced

    Here are a few descriptions to keep your curiosity satiated :)

    Dream Theater "Subconscious" Released 04/03/1995 - Limited Edition - 500 copies - sold out Contained Dream Theater rarities including A Change of Seasons. All copies were hand initialed/numbered in gold for authenticity. Rush "Cygnus" Released 08/14/1995 - Limited Edition - 1000 copies - still available Contains a rare soundboard show from the Hemispheres tour. Dream Theater "Acoustic Dreams" Released 09/30/1995 - Limited Edition of 500 copies - sold out Each copy is hand signed/numbered in silver for authenticity. Contains beautiful unplugged performances. Dream Theater "When Dream and Today Unite" To be released 12/25/1995 - Limited print of either 500 or 1000. Contains the songs from Dream and Day only with James LaBrie on vocals. Collected from MANY sources and optimized for quality. Dream Theater "Antiquities" To be released 01/30/1996 - Limited print of either 500 or 1000. Each copy will be hand signed/numbered for authenticity. Will contain vocalist auditions, demos, errata, outtakes, unfinished works, unreleased tracks, and the like. Dream Theater "Scenes From a Memory" Details TBA - Limited print of 500 copies. Each copy will be hand signed/numbered for authenticity. This could wind up being any of four or five different shows or song collections, as there are a few soundboard tapes I'm working on to try and get a good sound out of them. Public Affection "The Death of a Dictionary" Details TBA - Unlimited print Is actually +Live+'s little-known first album, released in 1989, two years before their 1991 breakthrough Mental Jewelry. Demand for this one is skyrocketing, and the Jam gets first shot at it. The only thing stopping it right at the moment is the overwhelming demand for the DT discs and the lack of manpower on my end. This *will* be released before too much longer.

    The following are all "Work in Progress" releases... Rush other titles I'm considering (for any of the given shows): Land's Edge, Storm World, Lifeforce, Arena of the Ancients... Rush "A Symptom of Life" - from 12/20/81 2nd gen soundboard Contains a LOT of neat stuff. a LOT. But very long... 2 CD set? Rush "Concordant Crossroads" - from 3/24/81 audience MASTER in stereo This one has unbelievable good sound quality. It's a tossup whether to take this or Symptom, since both are so good but so similar. Rush "Sleight of Mind" - from a remastered 6/25/75 Toronto This tour has been very underrepresented in available material, so who knows, if S.H.'s cleanup efforts turn out good... +Live+ "Disenchanting Discourse" - from a 10/25/94 audience MASTER in stereo It might be released, it might not, depending on many things. If you would like to see it released, please let me know and let as many people know as you can. I tend to find ways to release things when I find an overwhelming demand for them. :) I also have an audience DAT from 8/8/95, which is pretty damn good. I may synthesize the two shows to get all the "Rare" songs onto the CD. (Freaks, Supernatural, Breakin' Up, Jewelry songs, etc.) Type O-Negative "Deathgrip" - from a 5/30/94 audience MASTER in stereo A great setlist and decent sound. Only my worries about how many copies I can sell prevent this. I can't undertake anything less than a potential sellout project or I risk going under. Again, if this is a title you'd like to see, you can make it happen. All I need is a lot of interest, and away we go! So far I've had a few positive replies... much much more are needed though. Dream Theater... oh who knows, there's so much good stuff.

    5. How can I order a copy of one of these CDs?

    As stated before, I'm already shipping the CDs by and by. I ship orders in the order I received your checks, so those of you who sent your mail around when ordering began, those will be the first CDs out the door. I usually get a couple dozen a day into the mail. Be sure to correct this against the release schedule... e.g. I'm caught up on Cygnus so those will turn around fast. Acoustic Dreams is still in a queue and I'm crankin those out as fast as possible. WDATU is still in pre-order and won't ship until the end of December anyhow.

    Feel free to e-mail me to reserve a copy for you, so that your mail will have a copy allocated to it already (and not be a victim of "no-more- disc-syndrome").

    The numbering, excepting special requests when possible, will fill in the order I receive the mail orders. It's only fair after all. I'll reserve a copy for someone over e-mail, but if thirty people get their orders in before he or she does, it's not fair for me to still hold copy #014 or whatever. You all get the idea... these decisions are just in the effort to make it fair for all.

    Note: Cygnus was not numbered, nor will Public Affection be. All others so far are numbered for authenticity.

    Please, I stress to all of you, don't miss these if you missed Subconscious and Acoustic Dreams. It really does pain me to have to tell a fellow DT fan that there simply aren't any more Sub discs to be had, especially because I would be MORE than glad to sell one if I had it.

    The pricing for all the CDs so far is as follows ($2 discount for Cygnus if you're on the Jam.)

    Base cost: $25.00 US Additional postage USA free Additional postage Canada / Mex $1.00 US Additional postage Scandinavia $3.00 US * Additional postage Europe / UK $4.00 US Additional postage Japan $5.00 US Additional postage Aus/NZ/etc. $5.00 US

    * Scandinavia includes Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark. For some reason postal rates are lower than for mainland Europe or the UK.

    Postal rates were changed, but the postage cost MUST ONLY BE PAID ONCE. If you live in Europe and you order 4 discs, the cost is $104.00 US ($25.00 x 4, plus $4.00 postage) and not $116.00 US. Thus, if you have friends who want copies, I am more than willing to help you out. :) So no matter how many CDs you want, only add the postage cost Once.

    Things are pretty simple from here. Send along a money order for $25 bucks to my address, being sure to include a note with your name, the address to ship to, your email address, and WHICH CDs you're ordering so I know which ones to send you...... and HOW MANY you're ordering. As before, international customers may use whatever means of payment is most convenient for them, though I stress that sending cash is risky and should not be a first option, but a backup plan. :) CHECKS: I don't really mind them, but in the effort to be seen as a serious and responsible net merchant, I always recommend the traceable-both-ways Money Order as a preferred form of payment. So while checks are perfectly OK, they may or may not be the option you choose to take.

    Please make out checks and money orders to me, Michael Bahr.

    The address and so on is me at:

    Mike Bahr - Cygnus (or WDATU) 3175 N. Price Rd. #1066 Chandler, AZ 85224

    My home telephone number, available as a courtesy to you, is 1-602-777-0501. I am usually not home on weekends (band practice) so try during the week, between 6pm and 11pm pacific time, for best results. Also, please use discretion when handling this number, as it is, after all, my own home phone, and I will be very confused if a stranger calls at 3:00 AM. :) I trust you Jammers to be cool about it, as you always have in the past. Also... watch your time zones! I had one fellow calling at 6:00 AM. Owch!

    6. Orders received.

    READ THE PARAGRAPH BELOW. A LOT OF YOU DID NOT READ IT AND MAILED ME WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING IT. READ IT.

    This is NOT "reservations"... it's paid-for orders. If you have a reservation, it's still valid, trust me. :) These are just the numbers that are filled. Also there are a handful of "saved numbers" in there.

    Acoustic Dreams

    001 Master 002 Press Master A 003 Press Master B 004 Mike Bahr 005 Justin Poulter 006 Steve McMaster 007 David Fox 008 Robert Dalton 009 John Kotzian 010 Michael Burstin 011 Brian Cox 012 Scott Hansen 013 Mike Portnoy 014 Mike Portnoy 015 Mike Portnoy 016 Bracken MacLeod 017 John Nguyen 018 Nathan Bradley 019 Jeremy Smith 020 Todd Masek 021 Graham Borland 022 Mark Tedhams 023 Brian Fieg 024 Adam Japhet 025 Steve Chew 026 Kristian Reyes 027 Alan Wilds 028 Jeff Stewart 029 Matt McIntosh 030 Brian Polka 031 Stephan Dobay 032 Dale Newberry 033 Scott Hansen 034 Sanjeev Ghai 035 Sanjeev Ghai 036 Mike Robinson 037 Paul Poehler 038 Lisa Gaunt 039 Tracy Mangum 040 Jeff Forte 041 Robert Castilone 042 Bracken Odiorne 043 Jean-Francois Cote' 044 Uffe Moller 045 Steve Esterle 046 Chad Smith 047 Scott McCammon 048 David Edwards 049 Craig Newmeyer 050 Partha Mukhopadhyay 051 Dave Silva 052 Dave Silva 053 Dave Silva 054 Dave Silva 055 Robert MacAusland 056 Jason Breitweg 057 Demetris Papallis 058 Adam Marshall 059 Paul Goracke 060 Andrew Garinger 061 Alex Fraser 062 Uffe Moller 063 Fred Ward 064 Matt Masi 065 Iwahori Tomonori 066 Iwahori Tomonori 067 Michael Backof 068 Brian Ross 069 Anna Davidson 070 Kjetil Nordahl 071 Kjetil Nordahl 072 Kjetil Nordahl 073 Bill Wrightson 074 S. Johnson 075 Jaison John 076 Jaison John 077 Craig Newmeyer 078 Paul Humm 079 Jay Miller 080 Astrid De Ronde 081 Jason MacDonald 082 Scott Kuennen 083 Scott Kuennen 084 Rick Beem 085 Mike Ringelstetter 086 Conrad Chi 087 Brian Kirk 088 Brian Adams 089 Chris Freel 090 Chris Freel 091 Patrick Davis 092 Dave Fausel 093 Chris Derobertis 094 Sean Brady 095 S. Craig Caldwell 096 Andrew Stiles 097 Gregory Bunker 098 Eddie Webb 099 Edwin Million 100 Jenn Albert 101 Jenn Albert 102 Jeff Hill 103 Mike Olekshy 104 David Delmont 105 Derek Bober 106 Adam Japhet 107 Jamie Burks 108 George Fan 109 Tony Maglia 110 Stephen Soukup 111 Sookapat Niyomthai 112 David DeSalvo 113 Randy Haskin 114 Jennifer Sharward 115 Bryan Hunter 116 Bryan Hunter 117 Todd Dakin 118 J. R. McCullough 119 Jeff Chew 120 Patrick Sullivan 121 Patrick Sullivan 122 Pete Dziadzka 123 Ken Bibb 124 Jason Russell 125 Gary Ake 126 Bernd Basmer 127 Stefan Sutter 128 Chad Cook 129 Jason Danio 130 Brandon Elhai 131 Mathew Yee 132 Eric Gauthier 133 Eric Gauthier 134 Wilco Barg 135 Joe Kruger 136 Rob Pociluk 137 Brenden Thomson 138 Marton Stromgald 139 Asif Khan 140 Jarrod Ramsey-Lewis 141 Jon Kretschmer 142 Jon Kretschmer 143 Michael Pomerleau 144 Ronald Tijhuis 145 Bill Nottingham 146 James Garrett 147 Reenoitnevnoc 148 Stephane Auzilleau 149 Stephane Auzilleau 150 Stephane Auzilleau 151 Stephane Auzilleau 152 Bear Jason 153 Ken Hugo Hoili 154 Paul Cashman 155 Shigeru Yamashita 156 Brian Ross 157 Takumi Akiyama 158 John Sievers 159 David Russum 160 David Russum 161 David Russum 162 Stefan Rau 163 Stefan Rau 164 Martin Hayter 165 Martin Hayter 166 Eugene Szucs 167 Warren Williams 168 Tilman Kuendgen 169 Tilman Kuendgen 170 Tilman Kuendgen 171 Chad Preston 172 Gregory Cole 173 Heath Augustover 174 Chris Fyhr 175 Chris Fyhr 176 Chris Fyhr 177 Bill Huston 178 Tim Jensen 179 James Abraham 180 Jeffrey Smith 181 Michael Coghlan 182 Brett Owens 183 David Kobayashi 184 Elliott Kim 185 Ed Polzin 186 Sean Gill 187 Tim Altman 188 Alexis Ramos 189 James Daugherty 190 Jon Heller 191 George Bast 192 Paul Cashman 193 Ramin Miraftabi 194 Stacie Rosenzweig 195 Ryan Whitaker 196 Brian Vivier 197 Kevin Villines 198 Mike Rapazzo 199 Koby Fuessler 200 Merieke Ri Berit 201 Chris Pokladnik 202 Ties Gobel 203 Ties Gobel 204 Chuck Hanley 205 Yuji Miyazaki 206 Chad David 207 Chad David 208 Chad David 209 Bill Polymenakos 210 Greg Sands 211 Greg Sands 212 Ryan Park 213 Evelyn Lauer 214 James Abraham 215 Jun-Dai Bates 216 Carmen Pezzone 217 Carmen Pezzone 218 Tom Tubbiola 219 Ryan Skadberg 220 Ryan Skadberg 221 Patricia McLoughlin 222 Jacob Caminati 223 Rob Schenk 224 Carmen Pezzone 225 Jason Russell 226 Kevin Czarnecki 227 Randall Braun 228 Eric Marlett 229 Richie Rivera 230 David Hafke 231 Greg Pickesimer 232 Itchak Schwarzbard 233 Brian Anderson 234 Brian Anderson 235 David Carver 236 Matthew Berger 237 James Delaney 238 Matt Palzewicz 239 Mark Metzger 240 Chris Mahaffey 241 John Jens 242 John Jens 243 Jan-Michael Souter 244 Andreas Kasper 245 Stuart Booth 246 Jan Melander 247 Brian Diefenderfer 248 Jon Gibbens 249 Tim Villa 250 Brian Vivier 251 Rick Atkinson 252 Steve Chenevey 253 Evan Thomson 254 Evan Thomson 255 Evan Thomson 256 Mike Stoner 257 Brandon Vaughn 258 Dobronte Gabor 259 Dobronte Gabor 260 David Thornton 261 Dan Licon 262 Ken Maupin 263 Eiji Hirai 264 Jun-Dai Bates 265 Jeff Windle 266 Jeff Windle 267 Jeff Windle 268 Jun-Dai Bates 269 Steve Balderrama 270 Wade Craig 271 Nick Pitfield 272 Dave Plotkin 273 Howard Wiener 274 Scott Cook 275 Mark Stahl 276 Siegfried Hanisch 277 Siegfried Hanisch 278 Siegfried Hanisch 279 Jeremy Murray 280 Jonathan Larkowski 281 Sylvain Jacques 282 Sylvain Jacques 283 Sylvain Jacques 284 Sylvain Jacques 285 Damian Allis 286 Mark Ruenes 287 Andrew Schiller 288 Joe Jurczyk 289 William Barry 290 Matt Mommaerts 291 Mark Stahl 292 Mark Contrady 293 Steffen Barabasch 294 Steffen Barabasch 295 Olaf Bode 296 Marcel Berkhout 297 Marcel Berkhout 298 Raquel Darrian 299 James Runde 300 James Runde 301 Ryan Redfern 302 Ke Xu 303 John Mastin 304 John Mastin 305 Mike Bradley 306 Christopher Onjian 307 Scott Jensen 308 Colin Housing 309 Chris Crowder 310 Craig Erskine 311 Curt Harman 312 Meghan Middleton 313 Evelyn Lauer 314 Richard Fraser 315 Mike Costic 316 Fernando Ma 317 Fernando Ma 318 John D'Alessandro 319 Mark D'Alessandro 320 Sean Haider 321 Adam Bertapelle 322 Bafu Vai 323 William Rollo 324 Kevin Johnson 325 Marko Ollila 326 Bill Engels 327 George Paradis 328 David Olson 329 Anton Max 330 Philip Jason 331 Jim Dove 332 Andrew Martin 333 Jacob Caminati 334 Dan Carlisle 335 Mike Stover 336 Richard Bradley 337 Pierre Dupree 338 Doug Merrell 339 Oliver Smith 340 Dana Boisvert 341 Bafu Vai 342 David Klem 343 Christopher Hailey 344 Jason Crowgey 345 Steve Mandamadiotis 346 James Grace 347 Andrew Miller 348 Robert Quezada 349 Chris Oates 350 Keith Aspinall 351 Paul Fini 352 George Szumski 353 George Szumski 354 Christopher Merlo 355 Bill Buckley 356 Bill Buckley 357 Eric Mauger 358 Brandon Padgett 359 Jimmy Hall 360 Andrew Keegan 361 Mario de Riso 362 Jonah Lin 363 Matt Kuehn 364 Jodi Lind 365 Shamus McConney 366 Darrell Bishop 367 Adam Forsyth 368 Adam Forsyth 369 Chris Sandridge 370 Kaoru Kobayashi 371 Kaoru Kobayashi 372 Kaoru Kobayashi 373 Kaoru Kobayashi 374 Kaoru Kobayashi 375 Kaoru Kobayashi 376 Kaoru Kobayashi 377 Kaoru Kobayashi 378 Kaoru Kobayashi 379 Kaoru Kobayashi 380 Kaoru Kobayashi 381 Kaoru Kobayashi 382 Kaoru Kobayashi 383 Kaoru Kobayashi 384 Kaoru Kobayashi 385 Kaoru Kobayashi 386 Kaoru Kobayashi 387 Kaoru Kobayashi 388 Kaoru Kobayashi 389 Kaoru Kobayashi 390 Kaoru Kobayashi 391 Charlie Farrell 392 Mats Rydstrom 393 David Neff 394 Bernd Schweizer 395 Jim Beavens 396 Aaron Castillo 397 Aaron Castillo 398 Chris Purdy 399 Michael Ibach 400 Matt Pastor 401 Hairball 402 David Papineau 403 Al Balkiewicz 404 Al Balkiewicz 405 Philip Jason 406 Joe Lukas 407 Richard James 408 Michael Van Opstall 409 Greg Severine 410 Antoni Krasinski 411 Edwin Reed 412 Keith Aspinall 413 Ed Weiland 414 G. Jack Thetygi 415 Andy Tillotson 420 Darren Brown 421 Darren Brown 424 David Swanston 427 Ryan Brown 431 Johan Ringman 432 Johan Ringman 433 Johan Ringman 434 Johan Ringman 435 Johan Ringman 436 Johan Ringman 441 Christopher Merlo 444 Jacob Caminati 450 Richard Karsmakers 451 Richard Karsmakers 475 Joe Losby 495 Stephane Auzilleau 496 Zach Gemmill 497 Zach Gemmill 498 Zach Gemmill 499 Zach Gemmill 500 Melissa Bentheusen

    When Dream and Today Unite orders received:

    <soon to come, next week or the one after that>

    If you see something that just isn't true, please let me know. :)

    -Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com Magic: The Gathering - Conquer a Rainbow Vale today.

    I thought the following song quote appropriate at this point in time.

    "Summer's going fast, nights growing colder... Children growing up, old friends growing older. Freeze this moment a little bit longer, Make each sensation a little bit stronger. Experience slips away Experience slips away The innocence slips away..." - Rush, "Time Stand Still"

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