YTSEJAM digest 1097

From: ytsejam@arastar.com
Date: Tue Oct 31 1995 - 11:14:36 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 1097

    Today's Topics:

      1) RE: Shadow Gallery
     by - Shaggy - <giant@wam.umd.edu>
      2) (U)Extreme's references
     by "Steven Johnson, P" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
      3) Re: Extreme songs (NDT/BM/NINC)
     by "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
      4) Re: Duff Chord
     by esb01@students.stir.ac.uk (E. Ballinger)
      5) Concert dates...
     by Frank Marotta <fmarot01@barney.poly.edu>
      6) YTSEJAM digest 1094
     by Kris Claerhout <100522.625@compuserve.com>
      7) AD
     by Karri K Kiviluoma <kkiviluo@snakemail.hut.fi>
      8) Ytse & the Jam Part II
     by Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
      9) Re: Attention Any FL,GA jammers
     by Elliott Kim <ekim01@fiu.edu>
     10) Re: Revelations ala Ben / misc. debris
     by jerry@muc.de (jerry)
     11) Re: To Craig "IMO"
     by "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
     12) Re: Some general observations
     by Erotomania@aol.com
     13) AD dub site
     by Jean-Francois_Cote@INRS-SANTE.UQuebec.CA
     14) Mike Bahr, Bafu Vai
     by Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
     15) Paul Gilbert Guitar Clinic
     by Itchak Schwarzbard <ischwarz@ic.sunysb.edu>
     16) Bootlegs and Stuff
     by dasanche@students.wisc.edu (Damion Sanchez)
     17) Unsigned & Indie Label BAnds PAge (some influenced by DT)
     by Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
     18) Re: AYN RAND and DT
     by amarshal@physics.Trinity.EDU (Adam H. Marshall)
     19) Re: Led Zep's got Stairway, DT has ???
     by Fredrick McConnell <fredmc@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>
     20) ACOS tab project/ Extreme
     by William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca>
     21)
     by dasanche@students.wisc.edu (Damion Sanchez)
     22) Phish rip off
     by dasanche@students.wisc.edu (Damion Sanchez)
     23) RE: Marc Bonilla Tape
     by P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk
     24) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1094
     by Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>

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    Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 09:54:43 -0500
    From: - Shaggy - <giant@wam.umd.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: RE: Shadow Gallery
    Message-ID: <199510311454.JAA12821@rac4.wam.umd.edu>

    To the guy(s) who were talking about Shadow Gallery....

    Like I said a few jams ago, Shadow Gallery is/are damn good, and
    I do love keys/synth, but they tend to get overblown. I think
    you can find a happy medium with keys and guitars together, but
    I prefer a heavier mix and Shadow Gallery tends to favor the
    synth sound. Mike Baker is an awesome singer - and the melodies
    are excellent too. But you can go overboard. If they kept the
    melodies and keys to a minimum - well, maybe not a minimum but
    I think they are overused. Maybe they could have solved that
    problem by getting an outside producer. Lyrically, they are good
    but I much prefer DT here. Shadow Gallery leans toward a more
    "fantasy" bent lyrically I think. I don't think you can compare
    Shadow Gallery to DT to any great extent; almost like comparing
    DT to NiN which just isn't a good comparison at all. If you
    are looking for the Shadow Gallery disc, try CDNow on the WWW.
    I got it in 5 days. But be warned - those who like the heavier
    DT songs probably won't get into this. I think the heaviest
    Shadow Gallery song is probably along Innocence Faded lines...

    Chris
    giant@wam.umd.edu

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    Date: 31 Oct 1995 08:52:08 GMT
    From: "Steven Johnson, P" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: (U)Extreme's references
    Message-ID: <199510311459.AA04850@interlock.amoco.com>

    Parth asked about Extreme going to extremes. III SIDES asked if God (god) was
    dead, "who care's", etc. It's almost a mournful cry for the inexistence of God
    (god). On WFTP they take the "There is no god" stance. Why the change? They've
    always been pretty blatant about God's (god's) existence and who is in control
    of anyone's life. On their first disc, "Watching, waiting" talks about the
    crucifixion; all of II is about a child's exerience in the world on his own.
    So it's nothing new to them, I just think they happen to get much more direct
    on this latest release.

    I think it's interesting how Extreme and DT seem to be on most Jammers' lists
    of favs (of course, DT). We put so much into lyric meanings and there are a
    number of Jammers who aren't really pumped about talk of Christianity. Yet, as
    Extreme is a fav on the list, they are very blatant in their religious topics,
    much more so than DT. LATER-

    Steve

    ***************************************************************
    You're fighting the weight of the world and no one can save you
    this time/Close your eyes 'cause you'll find all you need in
    your mind -- Dream Theater, "Take the Time"

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    Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 09:10:00 -500 (EST)
    From: "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: Extreme songs (NDT/BM/NINC)
    Message-ID: <30962E5C.B99D.012D.000@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>

    >A question about Extreme, if I may: Can anyone explain how they went
    >from religious seeming lyrics (please tell me god isn't dead) on 3
    >Sides, to "There is no God" and "Evilangelist" on WftP?

    True Extreme's lyrics from their previous woks were very Christian in
    nature (esp. III Sides) seeing as both Gary and Nuno have stated that
    they are born-again Christians. I don't see how you see WftP as
    "anti-Christian" though.

    Extreme has always had sarcastic lyrics...check "Money," "Warheads,"
    "Peacemaker Die," etc, etc, etc... There is that line in "There Is
    No God":

    "A fool that says there is no God, don't feel for that sorry sod who
    needs proof if he'll believe..."
    plus
    "So *you* say there is no God..."

    Extreme never states "I/we say there is no God." Gary pulls some of
    his lyrics for this song out of the Psalms (10 & 14 esp.) dealing
    with people who say that there is no God.

    And with "Evilangelist"...they are just showing their frustration
    with false teachers (of which there is an abundance of). I don't see
    this as anti-Christian...

    WftP is still very much so Christian in nature, but a darker lyrical
    side. There are lines in almost *every* song that Gary draws from
    the Bible or biblical principles...

    Later,
    Dan Temmesfeld
    s1133627@cedarville.edu

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    Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 15:36:23 +0000
    From: esb01@students.stir.ac.uk (E. Ballinger)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: Duff Chord
    Message-ID: <v01520d03acbbf207997f@[139.153.41.131]>

     The chord you refer to is at 7:26. It's definitely the right chord and it
    doesn't sound out of tune to me. I think it's a 7th or something like that.
    Being a drummer, I'm not too sure. perhaps some YTSEstrummers can shed some
    light on the subject.

    Later... Edd.

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    Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 10:39:05 -0500 (EST)
    From: Frank Marotta <fmarot01@barney.poly.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Concert dates...
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951031103455.13099B-100000@barney>

           Would someome please email me personally telling me when the DT
    show dates are for the NY/NJ shows? Also if you know, when they go on
    sale and how much they'll be. Thank you.

                                     Frank
                                     fmarot01@barney.poly.edu

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    Date: 31 Oct 95 10:37:32 EST
    From: Kris Claerhout <100522.625@compuserve.com>
    To: <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1094
    Message-ID: <951031153731_100522.625_JHB96-1@CompuServe.COM>

    re Mike Bahr - WDATU

    Tell some more about these recordings. I have the original album with
    Dominici on vocals. So the new release should be a re-recorded version with
    James?
    What the hell happened with that Domenici guy?

    Kris

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    Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 16:26:33 +0200 (EET)
    From: Karri K Kiviluoma <kkiviluo@snakemail.hut.fi>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: AD
    Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.951031162220.20736A-100000@lk-hp-13.hut.fi>

            Shut the F**K up with the AD praises !!!!

            And if anyone bored of it (yeah,right) please, PLEASE, email me !!
            GiMMEGIMMEGIMME.....

            Great...Find out this great mailing list and people keep kicking
            my teeth in about this great cd...
            Anybody know what a keyboard does to the screen when thrown at it
            at the velocity of about 100 km/h...

            *SNIFF*

     ****************************************************************************
     * -= Karri.Kiviluoma@hut.fi =- *
     *Email: kkiviluo@gamma.hut.fi Pitk{iityntie 14b < Human mind is too >*
     *Phone: (358)-0-862475 02810 Espoo < complex to be chained >*
     *Fax : (358)-0-8531583 Finland < by the consepts of >*
     * < good and/or evil ! >*
     *NO ADS, PUHLEEZE !! < - M[ >*
     ****************************************************************************

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    Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 10:45:23 -0500
    From: Joe Kruger <jkruger@ee.net>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Ytse & the Jam Part II
    Message-ID: <199510311545.KAA27534@mail.ee.net>

    They're Ytse and the Jam,
    Yes Ytse and the Jam,
    One is a psycho; the other's inane.
    They're laboratory nerds.
    Their brains smell like turds.
    The're ditsy, they're Ytse and the Jam, Jam, Jam, Jam, Jam.

    Ytse: Gee, Jam. What do you want to do tonight.
    Jam: The same thing we do every night, Ytse ...
           Try to take over the mailing list.

    Jam: Ytse, I've developed the perfect scheme for taking over the
           mailing list.
    Ytse: What is it, Jam?
    Jam: It involves multiple steps - each separate, yet strangely
           connected by one common thread - Flaming.

    Ytse: What do you want me to do to help, Jam?
    Jam: First, post a controversial message flaming another band about
           how much they suck compared to DT. Mask your vitriol with a thin
           layer of logic and intelligence.
    Ytse: But, won't they see through to my real stupidity, Jam?
    Jam: No, Ytse. They're mostly young college students. Some of them
           actually think their professor's are intelligent. You should
           have no problem fooling them.
    Ytse: But, how do I do it, Jam?
    Jam: Simple, quote very reliable sources such as Ayn Rand or the Bible.
           Everyone will be so impressed by your referernces, they won't
           question their content or context.

    Ytse: Ok, what do I do then, Jam?
    Jam: Send another hate-filled message from another account proclaiming
           how the list should only be used for DT.
    Ytse: What if no one cares?
    Jam: Oh, they'll care, Ytse. This is religion for some people.
           Let's get started with something simple.

    (Jam sends message to list)
    Jam: Boy, I sure think that Derek looks a lot like Booger from
           Revenge of the Nerds - you know - the guy from Risky Business -
           "sometimes you just have to say what the fuck."
    List: No, he doesn't.
    List: I think if he stuck his finger in a light socket and his face
           into mud he'd look just like Trent Reznor from Nine Inch Nails.
    List: Boy, they suck.
    Ytse: I think, speaking from the metaphysical perspective, that their
           anguish is misunderstood. Much like that of Oedipus.
    List: Nin sucks. Dt rules. End of discussion.
    Frank: FUCK YOU. THIS LIST IS FOR DT. EVERYONE ELSE GET OUT.
    List: I'm tired of the use of profanity. You don't see DT stooping
           to this level.
    List: Actually, yes they do. If you went to the DT concert in East
           Fartingburgstrasse Holland in 93, you'd know that John Myung
           mouthed the word fuck when his tech stepped on a pedal by mistake.
    List: I'm compiling a list of accidental sample triggering - can you tell
           me what sample it was.
    Frank: THIS IS A BUNCH OF FUCKING CRAP. WHERE THE FUCK DO YOU PEOPLE GET
           THIS BULLSHIT. I DON'T CARE ABOUT IT. Thanks.

    Jam: Ytse, are you pondering what I'm pondering?
    Ytse: Uh, I think so, Jam; but this time, you flame Frank.

    Jam: Frank, you weasel. Turn off CAPS LOCK. Don't you know anything
           about the Internet. You'd think you were on AOL or something.
    Ytse: Well, I don't want to start a religious discussion or anything, but
           I think Frank's anger would be resolved if he accepted Jesus into
           his heart.
    List: I subscribed to this list to hear about DT. I'm going to take my computer
           and go home.
    List: Dear DT. I love your music. Please add me to your mailing list.
    AOL: Me too.
    List: Can't we do anything to keep all the idiots off this list.
    List: I'm tired of all these idiotic messages from idiots.
    List: I'm tired of being an idiot.
    List: How do I pronounce YTSEJAM?
    List: Not again, someone should add this to the FAQ.
    List: There's a FAQ.
    AOL: What's a FAQ?
    List: Where do I get the DT FAQ?
    KenB: Please read the welcome message you deleted six months ago.
    AOL: I'm tired of everyone flaming AOL users. It's completely unjustified.
    AOL: I'm tired of everyone flaming AOL users. It's completely unjustified.
    AOL: I'm tired of everyone flaming AOL users. It's completely unjustified.
    AOL: Oops, I think I sent that message too many times. Sorry.
    AOL: Me too.

    Jam: Ytse, my plan is working beautifully. There's absolutely no
           discussion about Dream Theater going on.
    Ytse: This is much more fun. I'm going to continue.

    Ytse: I'm starting a poll of everyone's top five favorite songs by Blind Nails.
    List: Ugh, not another poll. What a waste of bandwidth.
    Jam: A waste of bandwidth! How much bandwidth is wasted by your complaining
           about waste of bandwidth?
    Hair: About .2 kHz. But it's outside the audible range unless you tweak it.
    List: Speaking of hair, does anyone else notice how Metro Part I is in the
           Minoxodyl mode from 5:23 to 5:24.
    List: I always thought it was the Phyrigerator mode.
    List: No, look here's the tab:

    ------------e--k--------x-------x---s-----i-----------
    ----x----x---m--c-x---x------x-e-----u---m-n----------
    -----x------x----u---x----x---s-------b-i---a---------
    ------------------f--------------------l-xx--l-----x--

    List: DuDE, Ur taBz mayk 0 cents.
    List: I'm a woman. I am deeply offended by all the subtle anti-female
           sexual innuendoes on this list.
    List: It was a joke; lighten up.
    Jam: Well, you shouldn't be on this list. Women are incapable of
           liking progressive music.
    List: Yeah, because they have long hair.
    List: Hey I'm part of the YJLHBEIEIO.
    List: IMHO, I think everyone should quit with the abbrs ASAP.
    MikeB: If a chicken and a half lay an egg and a half in a day and a half
           how long will it take us to move on to another topic.
    List: I knew the answer to that once.
    List: Hey, how dare you send messages to the list? Shouldn't you be
           spending your time making my damn AD?
    Bafu: I'd love to touch that one. But I can't with my strait jacket on.

    Jam: Well, Ytse, I think we need to prepare for tommorrow night.
    Ytse: What are we going to do tomorrow night, Jam?
    Jam: The same thing we do every night, Ytse ...
           Try to take over the mailing list.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Disclaimer:
    Any resemblance to real or cartoon characters is strictly intended.
    No, I'm not Bafu.
    I'm sorry if I offended anyone; my intent was to offend everyone.

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    Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 10:55:54 -0500 (EST)
    From: Elliott Kim <ekim01@fiu.edu>
    To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Re: Attention Any FL,GA jammers
    Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951031105339.9077C-100000@solix>

    I'm sorry, but I've already got 3 other people going with me now.
    Response was prompt. I will, of course, let you all know if anyone backs
    out. It really pains me to let down a DT fan.

      --<Elliott Kim>--<ekim01@fiu.edu>--<Florida International University>--

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    Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 13:54:46 +0100
    From: jerry@muc.de (jerry)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: Revelations ala Ben / misc. debris
    Message-ID: <v01510100acbbd410eb7a@[193.174.4.141]>

    On Sun, 29 Oct 1995 laussade@enet.net (Ktulu) wrote:
    [..]
    > Anyways, this quoted from Wait For Sleep:
    >
    > She stares at the ceiling
    > And tries not to think
    > And pictures the chain
    > She's been trying to link again
    > But the feeling is gone
    >
    > Possibly a child (the one on the I&W cover?) trying to get their
    >parents back together, but they have grown apart and don't love each other
    >anymore?
    [..]
    > Ben Laussade
    > laussade@enet.net

    My interpretation of Wait for sleep is a little different.
    To me it seems more like a woman that lost her beloved man. Either
    they broke up or he died or they broke up and then he died.
    There are other parts in the lyrics that seem to fit in there:
    "..and ashes can't answer her pain" - has he been cremated?
    "..and call life from a cold metal frame" - a picture of him standing
    on the shelf by the bed?
    Well, these are just the thoughts and feelings that come to me everytime
    I hear that song. It really touches me everytime I hear it, think I know
    these feelings all to well...
    And even if it sounds pathetic, at times when I sing along WfS, I change
    the lyrics with reference to a male protagonist, so I can even relate more
    to the song.

    On other topics:

    Ytse & Jam by Bafu Vai - loved this one! Seems to sum up all the
    problems on the jam. Hey Bafu, keep the good stuff coming!

    Also to Mike Bahr - I really enjoy your mails. Just the right blend
    of DT related stuff and entertainment...

    I hope future threads will also be on a comparable high level, like
    the NIN - DT discussion.. shows that we're human beings after all..
    No, I did not take part in the Blind M. thread and I hate polls.

    so much for now - read you - jerry :--)

    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    Andreas Schaefer email: jerry@muc.de
    "I am gross and perverted - I'm obsessed and deranged
     I have existed for years - but very little has changed" F.Zappa
    ----------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 09:13:00 -500 (EST)
    From: "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: To Craig "IMO"
    Message-ID: <30962F22.B99D.0138.000@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>

    >can anyone tell me what IMO stands for?

    in my opinion...

    Dan

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    Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 09:31:51 -0500
    From: Erotomania@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: Some general observations
    Message-ID: <951031093150_79396150@mail06.mail.aol.com>

    >8. Point of interest. Mike Portnoy mentioned to me that they have only
    >played Light Fuse and Get Away live TWICE with James as singer!

    Actually, one of those times was in Philly...I distinctly remember it because
    I
    didn't have WDADU at the time, and realized later what it was. I think they
    played
    it at the 1st Chestnut Cabaret show, years ago.

    They also did "O Holy Night" at the show near Christmas...which was the 2nd
    one,
    I believe. Don't hold me to the dates on those shows, but, I know what I
    heard. =)

    -Hairball

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    Date: Tue, 31 Oct 95 12:21:14 -0500
    From: Jean-Francois_Cote@INRS-SANTE.UQuebec.CA
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: AD dub site
    Message-ID: <H0000f5f0360a082@MHS>

    Hello Ytsejammers

    this is for Trey Allen, E-mail me when you have time
    (i don't have your e-mail and it's been a while you
    posted to the jam :) )

    Can someone post (repost?) the label and catalog# of
    the Shadow Gallery CD?

    bye

    ......................................................................

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    Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:25:20 -0500 (EST)
    From: Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Mike Bahr, Bafu Vai
    Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.951031121728.27013I-100000@umbc9.umbc.edu>

    Hello JAmmers,

    A quick point...

    Has anybody noticed the Mike Bahr are Mike Portnoy are very similar? A
    scandal! Possibly... I have met Mr Portnoy, and have only e-mailed Mr
    Bahr but both are very personable and have an affinity for obscure
    musical recordings. Could Mike Bahr really be Mike Portnoy making boots
    in Arizona to get James Labrie back for walking off the stage and making
    him sing the end of a song several years ago? hmmm.....

    <grin> for the humor impaired

    The point is that Acoustic Dreams is a masterpiece, good work Mike Bahr!

    Speaking of humor, when is Bafu Vai getting his own show. Put him on
    after LArry Sanders or something, this man is funny! Hand puppet
    parodies of the Jam.

    I also want to thank the guy who started the NIN thread, you did pull
    this digest out of a nosedive. Quality threads on Ytsejam, it has been
    months.

    Visit my WWW page!!!

    Later,

    Mike Backof

    mbacko1@umbc.edu

    Homepage
    http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1

    Unsigned and Indie Label Bands
    httpL//www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/munsign.html

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    Date: Tue, 31 Oct 95 11:30:01 EST
    From: Itchak Schwarzbard <ischwarz@ic.sunysb.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Paul Gilbert Guitar Clinic
    Message-ID: <199510311630.LAA05017@engws3.ic.sunysb.edu>

    Last night, I attended a guitar clinic hosted by Paul Gilbert at 5 Towns
    Music College in Dix Hills, NY. Aside from Paul being an intense guitarist
    and a comedian at the same time, he has an awesome taste in music. Upon
    entering the auditorium, what do I hear cranking from the PA? None other
    than DT-Awake. Awesome!!! It was both the opening and closing music. I
    wonder if Paul picked it or if it was the people in the school running the PA?

    its

    P.S. I just lost my posting virginity--first time.

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    Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 11:06:59 -0600
    From: dasanche@students.wisc.edu (Damion Sanchez)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Bootlegs and Stuff
    Message-ID: <199510311706.LAA50336@audumla.students.wisc.edu>

    Could anyone tell me where I could find the Majesty Demos, A Change Of
    Seasons (Subconscious CD Version), Live In Long Island, Lost In the Sky,
    Dance of Eternity, Dream Out Loud, Consciously Unreal, and Don't Look Past
    Me? I'm very interested in buying these and if you have info. on any of
    them, e-mail me personally. Thanks.

    Damion Sanchez
    dasanche@students.wisc.edu

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    Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:16:02 -0500 (EST)
    From: Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Unsigned & Indie Label BAnds PAge (some influenced by DT)
    Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.951031120610.27013G-100000@umbc9.umbc.edu>

    Hello Jammers,

    My Unsigned and Idie Label Bands page is shaping up, still under
    construction but parts are functional.

    I have information on the following bands right now (reviews are coming
    to the page e-mail me if you are looking for information and you find
    that this area of the page is incomplete, I will get it on there for you)

    Anekdoten
    Angra
    Auditory Imagery
    Boud Deun
    Inferno
    Introspection
    Iluvatar
    Ivanhoe (Trey Allen, this is for you!)
    Magellan
    Shadow GAllery
    Threshold
    Visionary

    more are coming.

    If any bands want to get their information on the WWW please e-mail me
    at mbacko1@umbc.edu

    OR

    snail mail

    Michael Backof
    1894 Uniontown Road
    Westminster, Maryland 21158-3759
    USA

    me with promotional stuff and I'll help you out. I don't have room for
    any audio samples and pictures but I can include lots of information,
    e-mail links, and http connections to a local page to help you get some
    information out to WWW cruisers. Plus I love prog rock and prog metal
    and I enjoy hearing new music.

    Unsigned and Indie label bands page

    http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/munsign.html

    is the address. It is still under construction but check it out.

    My homepage (stuff about me.... )

    http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1

    LAter,

    Mike BAckof

    mbacko1@umbc.edu

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    Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:42:26 -0600
    From: amarshal@physics.Trinity.EDU (Adam H. Marshall)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: AYN RAND and DT
    Message-ID: <v01510101acbc1d174063@[131.194.133.150]>

    Hey all,

    >Continuing the Ayn Rand thread...
    >I was reading _Atlas Shrugged_ the other day and I came across the words:
    > "She had no time for pain, no energy for anger."
    >Hmmm,
    >Do you think Myung read the book?
    >I don't remember the exact page # ( I should have written it down),
    >but it was there.
    >
    >Incedentally, everyone should read Atlas Shrugged, it is incredible!
    >Is "no time for pain, no energy for anger" a common phrase that I
    >simply had not heard before LTL?
    >
    >At any rate, its one of my favorite Dream Theater songs.
    >

    I have been meaning to write on this for a while, but you know how time is...
    Anyway, since someone brought it up, I thought I would finally add my input:

    I found this quote from Atlas Shrugged several years back. It's on page
    225 of the 35th anniversary hardback addition. The whole quote is

            He had no time for pain, no energy for anger. Within a few weeks,
    it was over; the blinding stabs of hatred ceased and did not return.
            He was back in confident self-control on the evening when...

    This is way to close to LtL to be coincidental. Notice "the blinding stabs
    of hatred ceased..." == "the sightlessness of hatred slips away" as well as
    the references to "confidence and self-control". I love that! Just
    thought I'd point it out.

    Later,
    Adam

    ___________________________________________________________________________
    Adam H. Marshall Trinity University
    amarshal@physics.trinity.edu San Antonio, TX

    "In science, there is only physics; all the rest is stamp collecting."
                                                            --Ernest Rutherford
    ___________________________________________________________________________

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    Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:56:35 -0500 (EST)
    From: Fredrick McConnell <fredmc@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: Led Zep's got Stairway, DT has ???
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9510311247.A15212-0100000@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>

    When I think of "signature song", I tend to think of something that
    encapsulates best their style, and will give people are global, yet
    bite-size, impression of the band. For Example, with Queen, I would say
    that Bohemian Rhapsody is their signature, and not cos of Wayne's World!
    :) :) But rather, because of the fact that it shows them at their best
    in the different styles they played in. For a band like Styx, I would
    choose Lady, or maybe the Best of Times, since Styx are often more known
    for their ballads. I don't think a song should be called a band's
    "signature" song since it's the only one the general public is familiar
    with, although oftentimes that is the case. I'm relatively new to DT,
    and only possess I&W and ACoS, but I would call Take The Time more of a
    signature, cos it has their fast-paced rock, combined with their smoothly
    executed rhythmic changes, and skillful technical playing, all wrapped in
    a eight minute (approx, no flames for not being exact on the time, please !
    :) ) time slice, which allows anyone who would listen to a larger scale
    work, such as ACoS or Metropolis, to say "Hey, that's Dream Theater!"
    Just like, when someone hears a very clean, yet virtuosic, harmonica
    solo, they can instantly say "Hey, that's Blues Traveller".

    Hopefully I illustrated well enough what I think a signature song should
    be. But of course, just my opinion. I think this is a great discussion
    topic, to be sure!

    Fred

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    And now, you can check out my WWW HomePage at
    http://gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~fredmc
    And the Troubadours Home Page at http://gwis2.circ.gwu.edu/~troubs

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    Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 11:28:05 -0700 (MST)
    From: William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: ACOS tab project/ Extreme
    Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951031112135.22405B@casual1>

    'jammers,

    If any guitarists want to discuss figuring out ACOS on guitar feel free
    to e-mail me directly. I've figured out some of the more difficult
    passages and some bits and pieces here and there. That is, if you can't
    wait for the full blown edition that we're working on.

    Also, to Partha: I think Extreme talks about a variety of topics, not
    always from their point of view, which would explain the changing
    viewpoints. I think that song about Martin Luther King is an example.

    Will

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    Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:48:36 -0600
    From: dasanche@students.wisc.edu (Damion Sanchez)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Message-ID: <199510311848.MAA104872@audumla.students.wisc.edu>

    I think we've all tired out the DT/NIN debate. Can you guys discuss that
    between each other? I'm sick of seeing 16 out of the 20 messages about NIN
    vs. Dream Theater. Everybody knows now that they're uncomparable, so leave
    it alone.

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    Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 13:03:23 -0600
    From: dasanche@students.wisc.edu (Damion Sanchez)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Phish rip off
    Message-ID: <199510311903.NAA93167@audumla.students.wisc.edu>

    Jeremy,

    If I'm not mistaken, you listen to Phish a lot and ripped that "one the
    only" shit off from their Junta double CD. That's what I thought. What
    forces drove you to do this?

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    Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 19:05:36 +0000
    From: P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: RE: Marc Bonilla Tape
    Message-ID: <"3817*/I=P/S=McLoughlin/OU=bra0108/O=icl/PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS>

    I am agreat admirer of Marc Bonilla and would recommend his
    playing. The music as similar to that of a big band, but guitar
    based. Also playing on the album are Ronnie Montrose (Montrose),
    Troy Lucketta (Tesla). It is great music to drive to and I
    played both Marc's tapes over and over on my California Dreamin'
    holiday. He also writes film music. Anyone know which films ?

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    Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 16:19:40 -0500 (EST)
    From: Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1094
    Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951031160933.3368A-100000@vanakam.cc.columbia.edu>

    Dear Jammers,

    Hey there! I really need help from you guys. I think my copy of
    Acoustic Dreams was lost in the mail somehow (it was mailed out about two
    weeks ago and I still didn't receive it yet). I went to the Columbia
    University mail office and they said they haven't gotten anything. Do
    any of you have any suggestions as to how I should approach this, how should I
    say, CRISIS??!?!? Thanks in advance!

    Yours,
    Jeff =)

    <<<==============---------------<<<<<<<>>>>>>>---------------==============>>>
            "I still taste your kisses Jeff Chew is:
             Your voice sings in my ear jc309@columbia.edu
             You can betray http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309
             what we were yesterday
             But you'll come back tonight (212) 853-6952
             for him" <--- Kim from Miss Saigon
    <<<==============---------------<<<<<<<>>>>>>>---------------==============>>>
                                    

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