YTSEJAM digest 1121

From: ytsejam@arastar.com
Date: Fri Nov 10 1995 - 05:37:23 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 1121

    Today's Topics:

      1) Metamorph
     by jpgarrett@earthlink.net (James Garrett)
      2) Re: Inanimate objects hate DT
     by SaVeur <jjens@gmu.edu>
      3) Re: More Savatage
     by jtack1@ic3.ithaca.edu
      4) Light Fuse and Get Away
     by EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
      5) Stuff & Visual Music
     by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
      6) Ytse & Jam (explained)
     by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
      7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1119
     by babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
      8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1119
     by acook@tiac.net (acook)
      9) Lie Single
     by bwrights@dna.metronet.com (Bill Wrightson)
     10) Has John Myung ever tried a Chapman Stick?
     by Greg Picklesimer <gregp@mudd.ncrmicro.ncr.com>
     11) Re: Japanese Awake
     by rquezada@monmouth.com
     12) Unsigned and Indie Label Bands Page/ Several Comments
     by Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
     13) Covers and stuff
     by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
     14)
     by Mantia_Andras <andi@lmcv.sfos.ro>
     15) Re: Screaming guy in Bombay Vindaloo
     by w de boer <boer303@hio.tem.NHL.NL>
     16) ATTENTION all Jammers in the NE!
     by James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
     17) Re: Kansas
     by Benjamin Brizzell <brizzb@Sage.EDU>
     18) cdeurope
     by Benjamin Brizzell <brizzb@Sage.EDU>
     19) The little things kill
     by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
     20) Re: Inanimate objects hate DT
     by srvrip@qualcomm.com (John Hough)

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    Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 23:29:03 -0800
    From: jpgarrett@earthlink.net (James Garrett)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Metamorph
    Message-ID: <199511100729.XAA22550@atlas.earthlink.net>

    >Also, has anyone out there read "Metamorphosis" recently?

    I have. Gregor reminds me of that "cool" guy on the list who hates all music
    but Progressive Rock.

    BTW. Has anybody heard of a band called Roach? Their CD "On My Back" is
    awesome. They're a mixture of Jazz, Rap and traditional Heavy Metal. Dave
    Matthews even makes a guest appearance.

    James Garrett
    ________________________________
    jpgarrett@earthlink.net

    This album contains material which
    a truly free society would neither fear
    nor suppress.
                                 Frank Zappa

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    Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 02:43:09 -0500
    From: SaVeur <jjens@gmu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: Inanimate objects hate DT
    Message-ID: <199511100743.CAA25348@reactor.site.gmu.edu>

    >like the vast majority of non-living things in my room (which
    >is everything but me) absolutely detest Dream Theater. The
    [...several examples of things being destroyed/falling over, snipped...]

    this only happens when i hook my cd player into my GK RB800 bass head (800
    watts bridged mono) and run it through my 4x10" and 15" w/ 2 8"s. crank that
    mamma-jamma and things in my neighbor's house across the street are destroyed.

    btw, the cops have only been called once while i was doing this....at 11pm :)

    -john YJLHB SubCon#397 AD#242 jjens@gmu.edu http://www.site.gmu.edu/~jjens/

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    Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 21:18:50 -0500 (EST)
    From: jtack1@ic3.ithaca.edu
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: More Savatage
    Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.951109194135.82255D-100000@ic3.ithaca.edu>

    > From: Baron Sengir <tsbileci@beta.loyno.edu>
    > Subject: Savatage (WARNING: No Dream Theater content. Sorry)
    >
    > The songs "I am" and "Doesn't Matter Anyway" are sung by former lead
    > vocalist Jon Oliva. Jon also played keys on _Dead Winter Dead_. I also
    > noticed that almost the entire band has changed since _A Handful of
    > Rain_! The drummer and guitarist are gone. Now they have TWO guitarists.
    >
    > Paul

    Yes, and just to confuse us even further: one of the two new guitarists
    is actually an old guitarist. Christopher Caffery was a member of
    Savatage during the Gutter Ballet days.

    And Jon Oliva is now back in the band after a two-album leave of absence
    (even though he continued to write and produce and even play some stuff),
    but he's not pictured with the band or directly listed with the rest of
    the band members inside the DWD CD jacket...but he IS pictured in the
    Japanese release. Why is that?

    > From: Victor Jason <victor@dawn.joensuu.fi>
    > Subject: Re: Dead winter Dead
    >
    > Hi!
    > Sava's new record dead winter dead, as I gather is mostly new songs with a
    > few old one's!

    No. It's all new. It's a rock opera that vocalist Zachary Stevens wrote
    about the war in Bosnia.

    And now that we have finally gotten this all straightened out: go out and
    buy the album! It's great! (I still don't think it surpasses Mindcrime
    in any way, though--sorry, Howard)

    Jodi
      (Who will be screaming "PLEASE DON'T GO!" during ACOS at El 'N Gee on
            December 27th) <---- DT Content!

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    Date: Thu, 09 Nov 1995 15:21:20 -0400 (EDT)
    From: EMRST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Light Fuse and Get Away
    Message-ID: <01HXFZEUV8XE9YEHZV@vms.cis.pitt.edu>

    Concerning Mike Bahr and Hairball,
            The fact that Light Fuse and Get Away was only played twice with James
    on vocals is correct to my knowledge, which came from Mike Portnoy. However,
    to dispute Hairball, both shows that Mike spoke of were in Europe. I don't
    remember the exact country(ies), but they were definitely both in Europe on the
    Images & Words tour. They only played it twice because "it just didn't
    happen."
            Mike, you surprised me with your post regarding the search for a copy
    of this song, because I was under the impression that Mike Portnoy was giving
    you the better of the two copies, specifically because he supports the idea of
    'When Dream and Today Unite.' When I talked to him, he did mention that he had
    both shows on tape, but at the time, I couldn't convince him to release them to
    us. I was under the impression that you were able to change his mind, for the
    purpose of WDATU. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be surprised if you hve both
    versions. Anyway, enlighten me to the details of the real search, if my
    assumptions are invalid, and dammit, gimme a copy of the version that won't
    make the WDATU CD. Sorry, I lost my collectiveness there for a moment. Thanks
    again for the services you are providing to the 'jam, although I'm not
    financially able to participate.

    KAI - yjlhb - although seriously considering jumping on Hairball's bandwagon.

    p.s. I still like WDAJU better.

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    Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 04:33:21 -0800 (PST)
    From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
    To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Stuff & Visual Music
    Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.951110043250.20942D-100000@homer19.u.washington.edu>

    > From: WildKoba@aol.com
    > Subject: stuff
    >
    > dhgkjf otygkfjdh b45iotuiorsag ropu0985u6jt kfdjhglkj df b opfejg desenx
    > ghjkl;fhg90587g.r,.=-06-0k6ol6mluj6 s
    >
    > guess what opening that is? hint: if you get this right, a)you are on
    > crack, b) you have too much time on your hands, or c) you are a huge fan
    > of either john cage or goerge crumb.

    Wait a minute, I'm one of those, and I can't figure it out...

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    > From: laussade@enet.net (Ktulu) > Subject: Visual Music > > POW POW POW POW POW POW pssh! (Just one fill) > dada dada dadadum (But a memorable one)

    Sounds like the drum fill at 0:19 of "6:00."

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    > From: IKKLESTICK <TRMD@grove.iup.edu> > Subject: Rush, RUsh and Dream Theater...

    Cool name! I was waiting for a post about Paula Abdul's first release from her "Spellbound" album, though.

    ----

    It just occurred to me that what Mike Bahr really meant when he said:

    > I do not discriminate due to gender, national origin, or even, yes, > sexual orientation.

    Was --> I don't discriminate due to:

    1. Gender. 2. National Origin. 3. Even things, like the number 4, balanced scales, and perfectly-level tables. 4. Yes, so he obviously likes their music. 5. Sexual Orientation. Somehow I missed this day back when I started high school.

    I hope this clears up any of the recent accusations.

    Bafu Vai

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    Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 05:24:22 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Ytse & Jam (explained) Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.951110051254.20942G-100000@homer19.u.washington.edu>

    By popular demand... Skip if you hated all that stuff...

    Firstly, the Y&J stories are finished, done, overwith, you can hope for their future, but there will not be one. So that makes one less Fucking Idiot posting irrelevant stuff. Okay, now the Why:

    About three weeks ago, this mailing list was falling fast into the pits of Chaos and Misery. People were at each other's throats, the flaming was relentless(some of which I myself added to), and "unsubscribe" posts abounded. I figured what Ytsejam needed was a good mirror to wake it up.

    And you know, I think it worked.

    (I think it's gonna be alright, yes, the worst is over now, the Ytsejams are shining like a red JPM100...)

    What did I gain from this? Aside from having fun writing it, having fun reading people's reactions to it, and in general seeing the intended results of posting the stories actually appear in the forms of a little peace and tranquility, I gained the illustrious title of "Fucking Idiot" to add to my ever-growing collection of nicknames.

    For those of you who have never seen my Trophy Room Of Ytsejam Nicknames, some of them look like this: "Asshole." "Loser." "Tofu Satriani." "Crazy Fuck." "Sick Fuck." "Mercy Fuck." In my opinion, "Fucking Idiot" is one of the hardest titles to earn on a mailing list, as it deals with the actual knowledge of the poster himself, which is virtually impossible to determine, thus I am honored to have been granted such a nickname after many months of honest, dedicated, idiotic fucking around. :)

    Ytse and Jam represented the two sides of every argument presented in each of the stories, which was basically a collection of every argument I've seen brought up on this list. An argument on a mailing list of 1000+ people really has to be split right down the middle in order for the topic to last, right? Every topic I can remember reading about for extended periods of time on this list had literally half of the members in favor of, and half opposed to. That is, the members who chose to post opinions.

    Ytse was the nice, calm, rational, understanding 'jammer, who attempted to defend the members of DT whenever possible, and wasn't opposed to lapsing onto tangents and talking about things that weren't necessarily DT. These were the people who brought up languages, technical stuff, music theory corrections, insightful lyrical interpretations, and in general, helpful, informative posts. (Airdance is this. I am half-this. Frank was not this.)

    Jam was the loud, uproarious, gutter-mouthed jammer that defended whatever he/she happened to believe in VEHEMENTLY. Jammy-jammers slammed DT a lot, especially James LaBrie, and were always first in line to jump on people when they posted stuff either (1) not directly related to Dream Theater, or (2) stuff not immediately recognizable as DT-related. These were the people I would always get pissed off at because it seemed as if they didn't actually read the 'jams, but instead just wrote hasty replies without doing much thinking. I don't want to name names, but a lot of people do this sort of thing.

    Davegod.

    In a way, the stories were almost Jungian. I'm glad some of you enjoyed them, and I hope I didn't drive anyone to unsubscribe because of them, as that was not my intent. Perhaps we can all learn to be more Ytse-jammers and less Jammy-jammers, which would make us...... Ytsejammers. (neat, huh?)

    Bafu "Fucking Idiot To The Fourth Power" Vai

    p.s. if anyone would like the director's cut of "Y&J Part V," e-mail me privately. (too long for public posting.)

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    Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 05:22:06 -0400 (CDT) From: e0a008u@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU (Mark Coates) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Ytse & Jam Message-ID: <01HXAFPN9e0a008u@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU>

    What the fuck are these suposed to be about? Please usubscribe me from you list, I don't have time for this garbage.

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    Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 12:24:12 -0800 (EST) From: zorlacc@andrew.cmu.edu To: ytsejam@arastar.com Subject: Ytse and Jam Message-ID: <obbHHi600Uvv@andrew.cmu.edu>

    WTF!!! I dind't subscribe to this list to read these stupid dialogues!! Bafu Vai, you're no Plato!!

    Un-subscribe me, please! I'll stick to the Rush list, thank you very much!

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    Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 06:21:04 -0500 (YYZ) From: riker@wam.umd.edu To: "Ytsejams" ytsejam@arastar.com Cc: riker@wam.umd.edu Subject: Y&J Message-ID: <19951106.VAA09@wam.umd.edu>

    Unsubscribe list. (this foolishness is not what I have an acount for.)

    riker

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    Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 00:06:00 -0666 (PMU) From: htran@GNK-NTE.GLOBALINK.COM (Hsin Tran) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Message-ID: <1995.Nov10.124300.1116@GNK-NTE.GLOBALINK.COM>

    This Ytse and Jam stuff is realy starting to grate on my nerves, so would like you to kindly remove me from your list. Thank you.

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    Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 08:54:36 -0500 (EST) From: babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1119 Message-ID: <v01510105acc8c407c31f@[137.238.26.12]>

    Greetings everyone, it's BABS. I'm answering Partha's quiz question:

    It's "Dreams" by Heart. Let me tell you those gals were way ahead of their time! I caught them on VH-1 (a clip from Don Kirshner's Rock Concerts) a few weeks ago. Does anybody know what's up with them now?????????????????????????????????

    -BABS

    PS Did I win anything (giggle)?

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    Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 10:00:44 -0500 From: acook@tiac.net (acook) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1119 Message-ID: <199511101500.KAA10467@zork.tiac.net>

    Hey all,

    > > POW POW POW POW POW POW pssh! (Just one fill) > dada dada dadadum (But a memorable one) > Ben Laussade > <laussade@enet.net.> > "This is not reality" > Now these I'm getting sick of. Partly because those "POW"'s and "dada"'s could be in a billion songs out there (probably several different DT's), next we don't know what time signature it's in, and it just seems ridiculous to look at music or rhythms like that. It just don't work. It seems like something Beavis and Butthead would do. You know, with all that "duhduhduhd dah dah" they do. At least they make it funny...well that's just IMHO

    adam acook@tiac.net Adam Cook http://www.tiac.net/users/acook (hard hat construction area)

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    Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 08:25:23 -0600 From: bwrights@dna.metronet.com (Bill Wrightson) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Lie Single Message-ID: <199511101425.IAA05618@dna>

    I still have an extra copy of the Lie single (brand new) available if anyone wants to buy it or trade for it. I am asking $18 to cover what I paid for it from CDnow and my shipping costs.

    Sorry for the no following no DT content, but I just got the new Alice In Chains and It is pretty cool. It seems a little less intense than Dirt, but it is still cool!!!

    Bill Wrightson bwrights@dna.metronet.com (work) bwrights@airmail.net (home)

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    Date: Fri, 10 Nov 95 10:05:40 MST From: Greg Picklesimer <gregp@mudd.ncrmicro.ncr.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Has John Myung ever tried a Chapman Stick? Message-ID: <199511101657.JAA01440@Symbios.COM>

    Jammers,

    Just wondering if anyone has read anywhere if Myung has ever experimented playing with a Chapman Stick ? His playing style seems to be highly suited to this instrument and I would think it's the next logical step from a 6 string bass. For those who aren't very familiar with the Stick, it is a 10 or 12 string instrument that is almost entirely a fretboard and is typically played by tapping the strings at either end. Made famous by Tony Levin in King Crimson.

    Other Random thoughts:

    Thanks publicly to Mike Bahr for Acoustic Dreams. I love this !!

    Bafu: Keep the Ytse & Jam stuff coming ! The "Non-BAFU" Pinky and the Brain version was great too!

    Greg

    ------------------------------------------------------------------ Greg Picklesimer (greg.picklesimer@symbios.com) Symbios Logic Inc Fax: (719)573-3824 1635 Aeroplaza Dr. Colorado Springs CO 80916 Phone:(719)573-3497

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    Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 10:38:48 +0000 From: rquezada@monmouth.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Japanese Awake Message-ID: <199511101539.KAA19463@shell.monmouth.com>

    > 'Jammers, > I admit this may be outdated, as I'm still reading posts about > Operation: Revolution (meaning I'm still on digests from Halloween), but I feel > this is important, so I will reiterate. Whatever happened with that? I haven't seen anything about that, so I assume it wasn't as successful as it should have been.

    > > Concerning the Japanese release of Awake that some places are still advertising > as "contains a bonus CD", don't buy it. The bonus CD is a 3" mini CD for which > you need an adaptor ring to play in any standard American (I know none of them > are American, but in the U.S. standard is 5" CD) CD player. The bonus CD only

    There are some CD players that can play 3" CDs without an adapter. Portable CD players can play them, my LaserDisc player can (yes, it's not a standard American CD player, but was made by the people who invented CDs. Actually it was Pioneer, which is a subdivision of Phillips, who invented the CD), and my former cheap CD car stereo could play them as well without an adapter (that was before I got my CD changer). The car stereo instruction manual never mentioned that it could play it that way. I just figured I'd try it and it accepted it. The only thing was that it was a little harder to remove than a 5" CD.

    > album you already have (Awake). The reason it's not worth it is because EVE > has become available on the Silent Man single, which is easier to find, much > cheaper, and contains the demo version of Take the Time. It's readily [snip.....]

    > released. Then I got the SM single through a friend in Germany. I thought > about dishing off the Japanese release to make back a portion of the $35 I > spent to get it, but I figured I'd just keep it for the novelty. If anyone > can't afford or can't find the Silent Man single, contact me for a dubbing of > it. > It's not really a good idea to offer to dub a commerical release -- especially to a mailing list. If it's readily available in Europe and you're in the US, try going to CDEurope or some other internet seller that sells import CDs.

    rq

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    Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 11:07:20 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Unsigned and Indie Label Bands Page/ Several Comments Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.951110105121.8057C-100000@umbc10.umbc.edu>

    Hello Jammers,

    Just to spite those who say "DT Only!" and to promote the edification of the rest of you, my Unsigned and Indie Label bands page now has sound files, I plan to rotate them every few weeks. On the page right now (found at):

    http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/munsign.html

    Please give me feedback on the sound files, I want to know if they sound alright for the size I have to make them due to disk space constraints.

    Threshold --------- Into the Light (sound bite) off of Psychedelicatessan

    These guys are a really awesome melodic progressive metal band! One of my favorite groups currently, I have all of the contact info on my page if you want to order their stuff. Chris Lamka at Of sound Mind has it in the store at the moment (410)529-7082 if you are interested. And I think Cdconnection has it as well.

    Iluvatar -------- Haze (sound bite) off of Children

    Iluvatar is a prog-rock band based in Baltimore (I am friends with Glen the vocalist) which shows some great potential in the Rush/Marillion/Genesis area of prog. They are probably too light for the metal-heads on here, but check out the clip and see, it won't kill you.

    Leger De Main ------------- To Live the Truth (sound Bite) off of The Concept of Our Reality

    Leger De Main is a band from Pennsylvannia, a trio featuring a female vocalist, a guitarist/synth/kkeys/bass player, and a drummer. The music has a lot of parallels to Dream Theater (Metropolis type stuff) with souring female vocals over the top. Good stuff, I have only listened to it a few times since I have only had the CD for about a week. I have links on my page directly to the band, so it shouldn't be hard to pick it up.

    Other News ---------- I will also be putting a Mastermind clip up there shortly.

    I am also going to index the page to make it easier to traverse.

    The Inferno home page is coming along, I am in the process of getting a couple of photos scanned, and i should have the beginnings of a page shortly.

    As soon as I find a good background pattern I am going to Netscape enhance the page.

    I really am looking forward to meeting several Jammers at the Birch Hill show, I got my ticket in the maiil yesterday.

    For all those who use Netscape, those damn Netscape cache files can eat up your disk space! I killed about 2 MEGS of them yesterday. Especially bad if you only have a 5 MEG account size on the UNIX machine.

    I'm going to see Phish in 2 weeks!!!!!

    Later,

    Mike Backof

    mbacko1@umbc.edu

    Homepage http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1

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    Date: Fri, 10 Nov 95 16:13:12 +0100 From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: donews!nga Subject: Covers and stuff Message-ID: <9511101513.AA02298@sundoc13.software-ag.de>

    Hi everybody

    Today is poets day (piss off early tommorrow's Saturday) and before finishing work and going to have a few drinks with my friends, I'll just take a couple of minutes to send the Jam some of my random rumblings and ravings.

    Number one for today is a simple question, to which I hope to see a lot of answers. Which song/title by which artist would you really like to see (hear) DT cover (and why, if possible). My choice is Sound Chaser by Yes (on Relayer). There are some tremendous rhythm and tempo changes in there, and the sounds that Steve Howe gets out of the pedal steel guitar would be a real challenge for JP. Over to you, Jammers!

    Number two is a sort of follow-on to some things I posted last week. Those of you with a memory retention span of more than 10 seconds may remember that I found some similarities between some old Genesis songs and DT/Shadow Gallery. Last night I was listening to Awake (see, I *do* listen to DT occasionaly), and I was struck for the nth time by the similarity between the strings/mellotron type stuff on 'The Silent Man' and 'The Rain Song' by Led Zeppelin from the under-rated album 'Houses of the Holy'. Not the same, but I think they are very similar. The other similarity the struck me last night is on 'Innocence Faded. This time it is JP's solo from about 5 minutes onwards. It reminds me a lot of the sound and style of Jan Akkermann, who used to play for the Dutch band Focus. I can't really pin it down to a particular song: perhaps some Dutch Jammers might care to check it out.

    Number three is a short story inspired by a DT song. Here goes:

    Chapter 1 .. .. The End

    It was, of course, 'The Silent Man'. Easy, eh?

    I may have asked this before, but are there any other Jammers who are divers? 'Pull Me Under' often goes through my mind just before starting a descent.

    Well, I guess that's enough from me for today, but I must share one last little thing with you before I go. While surfing the web at lunch time today, I found a site with a whole stack of screen savers (http://www.sirius.com/~ratloaf/) and one of them is of Blind Melon throwing soup into your face. Anybody interested?

    stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de)

    Currently playing: Patrick Moraz - i

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    Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:45:56 +0200 From: Mantia_Andras <andi@lmcv.sfos.ro> To: Ytsejam Digest <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9511091423.A8155-0100000@lmcv.sfos.ro>

    Hi Jammers! I'm back now and I have very good news.All right, that may be good only for people like me.The first thing,which is DT releated,is that I got ACOS.And it's incredibble.The song is amazing.The music and the lyrics,too. I think that Portnoy done a good job.The cover versions are great and I think that the best from those is Perfect Strangers and the Zep medley. Oh, my favorite part of the ACOS is Another World.I read in an older Ytsejam that the guys in this list like it,too. Last month I was in Bucharest to see an Iron Maiden concert.This was the 1st time when I saw the one of the bands from those I like very much.This was the concert for my life.(But I hadn't see DT yet...) I didn't have their last album,but I think that that's good. And about Savatage.My friend bought for me the Dead Winter Dead album,but he lives in another town so I couldn't listen to it yet.But his opinion is that it's very good,but he misses the faster parts.But I saw in the list, that someone wrote that it's very good.I trust in him.Until this time I guess that their best (one of the best albums in the world) is Streets.I have their albums from Hall Of the Mountain King and I have the Dr.Butcher album, too.The singer and the ex-guitarist (Criss R.I.P) are very greats. Another non DT content:did you hear the last Gamma ray album?So if you not go and listen to the "Land Of The Free". Andris P.S.:Yitchak Rabin...R.I.P.

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    Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 12:31:55 +0100 From: w de boer <boer303@hio.tem.NHL.NL> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Screaming guy in Bombay Vindaloo Message-ID: <9511101131.AA00380@hio.tem.nhl.nl>

    Michael C. wrote: >You wrote: >> >>Two quick questions and I'm outta here. #1 - Does anyone else laugh >>hysterically everytime they listen to Bombay Vindaloo off LatM and >>hear that >>guy in the crowd screaming his head off for no reason at all? > >NO! Actually it pisses me off just about everytime. Have some >respect! > >Michael C.

    Why does this piss you off? This guy is crazy about DT! He was just having a good time! I get a good laugh every time I hear him!

    Wietze.

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    Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 12:43:26 -0500 From: James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: ATTENTION all Jammers in the NE! Message-ID: <Pine.DYN.3.91.951110124013.1632B-100000@unf6.cis.unf.edu>

    Hi guys and gals...

    There's at least 4 of us (maybe 8 or 9 of us) who need a floor to crash on in the NJ or NY area... We're coming up from FL to see the show on Dec. 29 and would like to bum around the big apple for a day or two... Please E-mail me if you have some floor space and would be willing to house at least 4 jammers...

    Thanks, Jay Peele For info on INFERNO, E-mail: jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu

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    Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:04:48 -0500 (EST) From: Benjamin Brizzell <brizzb@Sage.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: Kansas Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951110150227.14059A-100000@zeus>

    On Fri, 10 Nov 1995 DAO002@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU wrote:

    > I realize most of you already have heard Kansas, but I have to say it. > They are a lot like Dream theater except less heavy. Really, they are just > about the only light music I can stand. I own Monolith which I really like. > Can anyone suggest some other great albums they've produced? Based on this > one album they are in my top 5 band ever. > > David Olson > dao002@acad.drake.edu > Try Leftoverture or Point of Know Return. They seem to have Kansas's most popular songs on them. The first album and Song For America are probably the most progressive, so check those out, too. They just came out with a new album earlier this year, called Freaks of Nature. It's really good, they even got a violin player back. I'm going to see them Saturday night. Should be fun... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Ben Brizzell | "People started to walk the land, | | e-mail address: | Countries rose out of the sand, | | brizzb@sage.edu | Races came to separate, | | Individual Studies | And then they found the need to hate" | | Sage Junior College | - "Stardust" | | of Albany | by Anachronism | ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 15:14:22 -0500 (EST) From: Benjamin Brizzell <brizzb@Sage.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: cdeurope Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951110151254.14568B-100000@zeus>

    Ytsejammers,

    Does anybody know what happened to CDeurope? The last few times I've tried telnetting there, there's been no such host. They have some of my money, so I'm hoping that this is only temporary.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Ben Brizzell | "People started to walk the land, | | e-mail address: | Countries rose out of the sand, | | brizzb@sage.edu | Races came to separate, | | Individual Studies | And then they found the need to hate" | | Sage Junior College | - "Stardust" | | of Albany | by Anachronism | ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 14:16:39 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: The little things kill Message-ID: <199511102116.OAA11191@bud.indirect.com>

    A few little things...

    !. People are beginning to mail me asking why their AD isn't there yet. As though it needed any emphasis, please _don't_ mail me just to ask this! The reason being is that if I'm honest, I cannot possibly give a good answer. If your CD is in the mail, that's all I can say... it's in the mail, and on the way. I don't flag the dates they were sent because postal service here is so irregular that it becomes useless information. And if it hasn't been sent yet, I can't "go a little faster just for you"... your copy will be sent out in order like everyone else's, since it's only fair. I've packaged up to number 370, but there are a good 30-40 discs sitting here ready to send, and except for today being a holiday, I've been taking down a couple armloads every weekday and dropping them in the mail. So please, please, I beg of you all, don't mail me asking where your CD is unless you had like number 200 and it _still_ isn't there yet, because it's a piece of mail that I can do absolutely nothing with unless I wanna lie and say "Welp, it's in the mail, I'll see what I can do to speed it along!" Which is impossible.

    @. The new Alice in Chains album is "good" so far, and may grow better in time. Jar of Flies matured amazingly well, Dirt somewhat well, Facelift not so well, so I guess they must be improving.

    #. Thanks for all your support about my not being a bigot. It really means a lot to me, and I appreciate it.

    $. Got a new car stereo installed and I couldn't believe the bonehead error the guy makes. The stereo only has two RCA outs and I am running four speakers... boomers behind the seat and 3-ways in the side kickpanels. So he needs to do a split, and what does he do? Instead of splitting the left to both lefts, and the right to both rights, he splits the left to the two fronts, and the right to the behind-the-seats! I couldn't believe it once I figured it out. I threw in Awake to hear the 6:00 drum circle envelop me at top volume, and it really didnt move much. Confused, I threw in YYZ, and instead of zigzagging in front of me, the triangle rhythm kept going ahead and behind me. It took a whopping five minutes to fix (if that) but ya gotta wonder, what kind of nimrod wires it the way it was wired??

    %. I have a sort of a bastardized Canadian-Southern-Arizonan-Highland with a touch of New York (parents) accent, and Mike Portnoy got a big kick out of it. I guess when you're reading my mail, think of it as though Geddy Lee were saying it, but be more careless with conjuctions and y'all's.

    ^. Figure this one out, DT fanatics...

    pssh pssh pssh pssh pssh pssh tom tom toom ta boom boom boom

    Repeat ad infinitum.

    &. Nothing else for today. Take it easy all!

    Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com

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    Date: Fri, 10 Nov 1995 11:03:28 -0800 From: srvrip@qualcomm.com (John Hough) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Inanimate objects hate DT Message-ID: <199511101903.LAA24837@wizard.qualcomm.com>

    Dude you need to move!!!!!!!

    John Hough - srvrip@qualcomm.com

    "Look Around, Hear the Sounds, Cherish your life while you're still around" ----

    Mike Portnoy - Dream Theater - "A Change of Seasons"

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