YTSEJAM digest 1133

From: ytsejam@arastar.com
Date: Tue Nov 14 1995 - 23:28:39 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 1133

    Today's Topics:

      1) My first posting
     by SEEGED73@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
      2) Songs DT should cover
     by arom@capital.edu (Aaron Rom)
      3) DT screw-ups
     by jtack1@ic3.ithaca.edu
      4) Re: DT cover tunes
     by jtack1@ic3.ithaca.edu
      5) Scarred
     by laussade@enet.net (Ktulu)
      6) FALSE GODS
     by WarrenDW@aol.com
      7) any local.....
     by shyboy@microserve.net
      8) Re:
     by rquezada@monmouth.com
      9) King Crumpy: I'm a shmuck.
     by Richard K Henley <rhenley@gac.edu>
     10) King Crimson on Conan O'Brien: Fooey!
     by Andrew J Feyder <afeyder@gac.edu>
     11) Acoustic Dreams?
     by "Kyunghwee Choi" <king-crimson@msn.com>
     12) King Ytsejam
     by basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer)
     13) Re: your mail
     by Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
     14) To anyone who FEELs Dream Theater...
     by jsziklai@ludens.elte.hu
     15) RE: Images and Words Fanzine News
     by P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk
     16) Cumbersome, Fake and Trauma
     by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
     17) YTSEJAM digest 1126 -Reply
     by Wim Slabbekoorn <wslabb@mail.HZeeland.nl>
     18) YTSEJAM digest 1126 -Reply
     by Wim Slabbekoorn <wslabb@mail.HZeeland.nl>
     19) AD Dub
     by roland.theysohn@protel.de (Roland Theysohn)
     20) trivia stuff
     by bjm3@Lehigh.EDU (Merritt)
     21) Just a question...
     by "Andreas Woerner" <WOERNER@jerry.iued.uni-heidelberg.de>
     22) DT tattoos
     by An Angel's Kiss... <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
     23)
     by Brandon Ghioto <bgehio@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
     24) Sorry
     by dasanche@students.wisc.edu (Snatch)
     25) NETHER WORDS
     by duck <ldeluci@calstatela.edu>
     26) Kansas/Echolyn and other stuff.
     by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>

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    Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 19:53:57 -0600 (CST)
    From: SEEGED73@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: My first posting
    Message-ID: <01HXN8DTCI2G0013ID@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU>

    Date sent: 14-NOV-1995 19:41:28

    Hi everyone! This is my first time posting something here. Am I doing OK
    so far?

    This is for the guy who had the survey. I know I'm a little late...

    1. The first DT I actually purchased was IAW, but someone dubbed WDADU
    for me before that. I hadn't ever heard stuff from IAW when I bought it.

    2. I guess if I had to pick one favorite tune it would be "Learning to
    Live."

    3. The least fave would probably be "Lie."

    4. I'm 21.

    5. Last I checked I was female.

    6. The instruments I have basic knowledge of are piano, violin,
    doublebass, bass guitar, clarinet, oboe, alto sax, flute, guitar, and
    bassoon. I am most fluent on Doublebass and bass guitar.

    Anyone know of any Fates Warning tour dates? I heard they were gonna tour
    after "Chasing Time" came out.

    ________________________________________________________________________________
    Debbie Seeger
    University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh
    Music Major (Recording Technology emphasis)
    May 1996
    Bitnet - seeged73@oshkoshw
    Internet - seeged73@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu
    ________________________________________________________________________________

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    Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 21:57:45 -0500
    From: arom@capital.edu (Aaron Rom)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Songs DT should cover
    Message-ID: <9511150257.AA29922@athena.capital.edu>

       
       I would like to see them do ELP's arrangement of Ginastera's "Toccata", maybe
    "Tarkus" or "Karn Evil 9" or maybe even "Mars the Bringer of War" from the
    ELPowell album. Wouldn't it just be bitchin' to hear Petrucci crunching on the
    Mars ostinato? I wouldn't mind seeing them do "Awaken" by Yes, either, or
    "Los Endos" from Genesis. And maybe, just for kicks, they do "Headed for a
    Heartbreak" by the illustrious Winger, like I said, just for kicks.

    Aaron Rom

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    Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:58:19 -0500 (EST)
    From: jtack1@ic3.ithaca.edu
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: DT screw-ups
    Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.951114154600.38068D-100000@ic3.ithaca.edu>

    With all this talk of DT screw-ups, I remembered seeing what must be one
    of the best:

    I saw them at the Palace in New Haven, CT last October ('94), and they
    played "Another Day"--or tried to! The intro went off without a hitch,
    but once the rest of the band went to join in, chaos began. I don't
    remember what happened first, but either somebody was way off in their
    timing and screwed everyone else up, or John P's rack just decided to
    spontaneously shut down, and that screwed everybody up.

    Either way, everybody in the band got all confused, there was no guitar
    whatsoever, and after a few measures, Mike finally just stopped playing,
    stood up and waved his arms as if to say "STOP!" As he did this, James
    shook his head and said "No fucking way!!" (I believe that was a direct
    quote).

    After they composed themselves, James said "Hey, give us a break--this is
    only our third show!" and they went on to play the song perfectly.

    "...And they lived happily ever after."

    Jodi

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    Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 16:08:36 -0500 (EST)
    From: jtack1@ic3.ithaca.edu
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: DT cover tunes
    Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.951114160026.38068E-100000@ic3.ithaca.edu>

    > From: coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
    > Subject: Re: DT and Covers? Well Let Me Tell You
    >
    > Here are two tunes I would love DT to cover:
    >
    > 1. the theme from Perry Mason
    > 2. the (long standing) theme from the James Bond movies

    There seems to be a 007 theme going here (refer back to my Duran Duran "A
    View to a Kill" post). Coincidence?

    > Whadda ya guys/girls think?

    Oooooh!! And he's politically correct, too! :)

    Jodi

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    Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 20:51:16 -0700
    From: laussade@enet.net (Ktulu)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Scarred
    Message-ID: <199511150351.UAA10155@maple.enet.net>

    Hey,
            Do you guys really care if I write a Scarred Part 2? Do you want to
    see it, or should I just blow it off?

     
                              vvvv vvvvvvvvvvvvv vvvv
             Ben Laussade vvvv v vvvv laussade@enet.net
                              vv v v v v v vv
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                                "This is not reality" (Thanks for the 'M' Gutz_"
                   

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    Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 22:57:36 -0500
    From: WarrenDW@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: FALSE GODS
    Message-ID: <951114224916_84669132@mail02.mail.aol.com>

    OK HAIRBALL...in an earlier post you mentioned that you had been called
    various names on the "Jam"...you mentioned a few demeaning ones...including
    "asshole". Well buddy...., I am the one that called you that!! And I ONLY
    meant it if you had access to a CD _recorder_!! If you do have access to one
    then...well..uh..OK........BUT if you did NOT..then you are not one, and the
    use of the word (asshole) constitutes some type of legal thing, so now I am
    considering a lawsuit against you. I know people who have lawyers so I will
    be speaking to them about possible legal remedies regarding your flagrant use
    of 'the word'.

    On a different thread. I thought Ytse and Jam were real jammers..was I wrong?
    I didn't like Jam much, though....he was somewhat of a Fucking Idiot, if you
    know what I mean.

    On another different thread...I WAS THE SCREAMER IN Bombay Vindaloo (
    LatM)...NOT that liar Ken Ernst. BAFU VAI, if that is your real name, do you
    REALLY think Ken(if that is his real name..) is the SCREAMER...you (fucking
    idiot) fool!!

    OLD JOKE...how can you tell an audio engineer is in a level studio??...he or
    she drools out of both sides of the mouth equally. This is true!!
    What do audio engineers keep in case of an emergency??... a box of "Depends"

    Also...the guitarist's name is STEVE VAI, not Bafu Vai....this Bafu guy is an
    imposter...don't be fooled...ask Bafu to upload some guitar stuff....HA!!
    won't happen.

    OK so I am stupid...what the hell is a "vibrating pussy"??... never heard of
    a drink like that....so, how do I get one?? :--)

    HAIRBALL...so you are on the air, huh?? SO...... how come I can't hear you in
    Portland Oregon?? Answer that!! I tune in and all I hear is the local Jazz
    station...hmmmmm, another lawsuit might be in order.!!

    MIKE BAHR!!! Acoustic Dreams is Great!!! Your best yet.

    Warren in Oregon
    Warren in Oregon with the FanClub shaft buried deep where the sun don't shine

    ------------------------------

    Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 23:14:25 -0500
    From: shyboy@microserve.net
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: any local.....
    Message-ID: <199511150414.XAA16618@mail.Microserve.Net>

          Does anyone know if M. Portney is doing a Drum Clinic arouing PA? I also
       Read that there is a NJ show coming up I need a DATE and PLACE. Sorry I know
       this stuff was probably in the list alreay but I just signed up.
       
       Thank you for all the help,
              shyboy@microserve.net
    ========================================================================
                            <shyboy@microserve.net>
       If life is like a bowl of cherries why do I keep getting the pit
    ========================================================================

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    Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 00:28:38 +0000
    From: rquezada@monmouth.com
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re:
    Message-ID: <199511150529.AAA00108@shell.monmouth.com>

    > JOKE: What's the last thing Nicole Brown-Simpson said to Ron Goldman
    > before she died?
    >
    > "You can lick me there, but the Juice'll kill ya".
    >
    >
    > I know this is going to piss off some people but I don't care! Hopefully
    > this will make the non anal retentive people smile.
    >
    > Will

    To Everyone:

     Don't you think we've had enough of the jokes? I
    mean.... last time I checked this was the Ytsejam not
    the YtseJoke....... Granted, some of them are funny, but it's
    starting to get a little irritating, IMO.

    rq

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    Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 01:16:57 (CST)
    From: Richard K Henley <rhenley@gac.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: King Crumpy: I'm a shmuck.
    Message-ID: <199511150716.BAA24329@hermes.gac.edu>

    Anyone see King Crimson on Conan? If so, maybe you can answer a few
    questions:

    1. Is the corpse on rhythm guitar not allowed to move or show emotion, or
    did he do that for shock value?

    2. When does the base player's visa expire? It must be soon, because his
    clothing dates back to the early 1900's.

    3. Two drummers are better then one?

    Has anyone heard that ACOS CD? Fuckin' nuts. There is a twenty minute
    song on it. I'll copy it for a fee, since it is obviously a rarity.

    I noticed Moore wasn't in the lineup in the new album. What the hell?
    Can anyone clarify? Oh, and when did John decide to get married? Geez.
    Lotta stuff goin' on. At least I have my blind melon.

    "Somewhere, like a memory of a scene, there's a thousand pictures... or
    something..."

                                            Vai Boof

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    Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 01:24:57 (CST)
    From: Andrew J Feyder <afeyder@gac.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: King Crimson on Conan O'Brien: Fooey!
    Message-ID: <199511150724.BAA24524@hermes.gac.edu>

    I saw the band King Crimson on Conan O'Brien tonight. What a fuckin joke!
    What the hell kind of "music" was that? Some of the poorest shit I've
    ever seen. They were screaming about dinosaurs or something, and I think
    I'd rather listen to music by dinosaurs. They also looked about as old as
    some dinosaurs.
      
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    Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 08:06:23 UT
    From: "Kyunghwee Choi" <king-crimson@msn.com>
    To: "'ytsejam@arastar.com'" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Acoustic Dreams?
    Message-ID: <UPMAIL05.199511150807120729@msn.com>

    Okay Jammers,

    You folks've been communicating in all these abbrebiations it takes me
    forever to figure out what each of them means. Anyways, that's not my point
    here. I would like to find out more about this 'Acoustic Dream(s)' thing.
    Is it like a Dream Theater bootleg or something? Whoever's in charge of this
    bootleg business, I would like to get in touch with you and find out more
    about how I'm missing out on this Dream Theater stuff. I was pretty happy to
    have all their official albums and stuff (When the dream and day unite,
    Images and words, Live at Marquee, Live in Tokyo video, Awake, and A change
    of seasons) then here I am sitting in front of my computer finding out how
    much I'm missing out on the real Dream Theater stuff. So, if any jammers out
    there wants to share your great collection of Dream Theater with me, please
    contact me at 'king-crimson@msn.com' I would really appreciate it. Thank
    you.

    Rock on Jammers!

    'there's good music in every genre of music existing on earth.'

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    Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:53:17 +0100
    From: basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: King Ytsejam
    Message-ID: <9511151153.AA07053@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>

    >> From: basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Bernd Basmer)
    >> Subject: Bafu Vai
    >>
    >> Hi Jammers!
    >>
    >> Why don't we crown Bafu Vai for King Ytsejam? :-)
    >>
    >> This man is incredible!
    >
    >Court jesters don't make very good kings, Bernd. What would Woden say to
    >someone wanting Loki ruling Valhalla? :)
    Harharhar, well I'd say it would have been more funny there. :-)

    >
    >> Bye.
    >>
    >> Bernd.
    >> (guitar - SUPERIOR)
    > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    >Are you listing your skills for all to see?
    No, how could I! SUPERIOR is the name of my band.
    If you want to hear how SUPERIOR sounds like, I can send you
    a CD. How about this?

    Bye.

    Bernd.
    (guitar - SUPERIOR)

     

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    Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 3:08:51 EST
    From: Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: your mail
    Message-ID: <9511150808.AA18590@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>

       Hey, if you are referring to me, I call him John Rusty because compared to
    Neil Peart, Rutsey sounds rusty. A little joke that maybe nobody gets.

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    Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:16:08 +0100
    From: jsziklai@ludens.elte.hu
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: To anyone who FEELs Dream Theater...
    Message-ID: <009996CB.D7ED21E0.221@ludens.elte.hu>

    Hi Jammers!
               (To everyone, who FEELs Dream Theater...)

    I just wanted to know, WHAT ANY OF YOU FEELS WHEN YOU LISTEN TO
    "A Change Of Seasons". I don't know, but when I got the album,
    and first sat down to listen to it I felt like a new world was
    opening before me. It's so... well, I just wanna know, what
    others feel...

    One of my friends asked the other day, how could I like a song
    that took almost a half an hour to listen too. I said, that the
    time simply went by, I am not even in real Time and Space when
    I listen to Dream Theater...

    So, I await all opinions for discussion - I'll answer all personal mails -

    Oh, yes... if someone would not yet know :

    D or (G) --------5-------4---------------------4-------4-------2-0--------------
    A or (D) ------7-------7-------5-7-----5-7---7-------5-------2---------0--------
    E or (A) ----7-------7-------7-------7-----5-------3-------0---------2----------
    B or (E) --0-------0-------0-------0-------------------------------3-----3------

    D or (G) --------5-------4---------------------0-------0-------2-0--------------
    A or (D) ------7-------7-------5-7-----5-7---7-------5-------2---------3--------
    E or (A) ----7-------7-------7-------7-----5-------3-------0---------3---3------
    B or (E) --0-------0-------0-------0-------------------------------1------------

                                                 _________________
                                               / JANOS SZIKLAI \
                                             / -=CoolRain=- \
                                            < jsziklai@ludens.elte.hu >
                                             \_______________________/

    P.S.: " Ignorance surrounding me
             I've been so filled with fear
             All my life's been drained from me
             The end is drawing near..... "

               - "A Change Of Seasons" - II. Innocence - Mike Portnoy

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    Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:15:09 +0000
    From: P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: RE: Images and Words Fanzine News
    Message-ID: <"3969*/I=P/S=McLoughlin/OU=bra0108/O=icl/PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS>

             
             I received the following in a letter from Neil Elliott who
             produces the Images and Words Dream Theater fanzine this morning:
             
             Patricia
             Thanks for your bits and pieces. also for pestering MIKE about
             the ACOUSTIC DREAMS ! I look forward to receiving it and the RUSH
             one also.
             
             I got the next issue ready sooner than I expected, so Mike's piece
             didn't make it, but will go in the next issue for sure, along with
             your piece on The Dream Theater.
             
             I'm going to bring up the subject of the Fan Club with New York,
             to see if we can get something sorted out about it. I'm going to
             see about getting mechandise etc.
             
             I've just got my new PC and I'm waiting for a new faster modem, so
             then I can get on the web and hopefully conquer the world ?!?! If
             I could get all the buyers of 'AD' to sign up....
             
             I'll get 2 copies off to you when I get the magazine back from the
             printer next week.
             
             Cheers Neil

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    Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 14:02:34 +0100
    From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Cc: donews!nga
    Subject: Cumbersome, Fake and Trauma
    Message-ID: <9511151302.AA00944@sundoc13.software-ag.de>

    Hi all,

    it looks like Mike Stover beat me to it: *I* was going to point out the ELP
    did an album with Cozy Powell on drums. May the fleas of a thousand camels
    infest your armpits.

    Yesterday I mentioned that the German band Blind Guardian also qualify in this
    trivia quiz, and today I have got another candidate: Smashing Pumpkins (how
    could I forget?). The line-up is still the original one, and they have done four
    full CDs (the new one is, in fact, a 2 hour double CD) plus the four track
    mini CD 'Lull' from 91.

    Now for my trivia question: who can name at least four artists, who have had
    posthumous number 1 singles? Put those thinking caps on.

    Here's another interesting site to check if you've got Internet access:

    http://www.webcom.com/se

    This so-called Similarities Engine processes the names of 5 bands and 5 albums
    that you like, and then sends you a list of other stuff that you might like to
    listen to. Most of the stuff on the list I received I've either already got or
    it's by bands that I like, but how the hell Frank Sinatra got in there, I don't
    know! Worth 5 minutes of your time.

    Several people have been asking about the results of this 'Operation Revolution'
    thing from a few weeks back. Did anybody really think that anything would
    happen? I guess the MTVers recognized it for what it was and just directed
    anything that came in straight to the waste bin. So much for democracy.

    So now we know who stood behind the guy who screamed on the 'Live at the
    Marquee' CD. Why didn't you strangle the guy? People who shout and yawp while
    a band is playing have always been one of my pet hates. I think they should be
    taken outside and shot (together, of course, with people who have knitted
    toilet-roll covers in the back of their car, people who believe advertisments
    about washing powder, people who grind their teeth, people who cut me up on
    the motor way, people who eat with their mouths open, people who fart in lifts
    immediately before getting out,...).

    Time to go: the men with the white coats have come to get me again.

    stay safe and happy listening
    Neil Gallop
    (nga@software-ag.de)

    Currently playing: Joseph Haydn - Symphony #6 (Le Matin)

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    Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:48:48 +0100
    From: Wim Slabbekoorn <wslabb@mail.HZeeland.nl>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1126 -Reply
    Message-ID: <s0a9fddf.036@mail.HZeeland.nl>

    Hi there!

    Here's a question for you from Holland! I read your very interesting
    information about DT in your mail, which arrived here on 13 November
    (Ytsejam 1126). I read some of your questions, and it's always
    interesting to read about bands like King's X and....Parallax. I
    don't know that band, I'm extremely interested to listen to some
    music of this band. Can you arrange something for me? Are there more
    bands like King's X and Parallax which have christian oriented
    lyrics? Or at least have christian musicians in its band? (Like
    Galactic Cowboys) I'm a fanatic DT-fan, I'm a christian, so I listen
    to a lot of christian bands. Do you know the band Decision - D from
    Holland? Or Dilemma, (from Amsterdam) which has some influences of
    DT. I listen to lots of music. All kinds of styles like the band
    'Jars of Clay' with acoustic instruments and hip-hop influences, it's
    very interesting, you know. Furthermore I mainly listen to symphonic
    rock like Queensryche, Shadow Gallery, Atomic Opera and stuff. I love
    it! I hope you can help me find more about bands with christian
    oriented lyrics, I'm looking forward to your reply,

    Are there any serious DT-fans who want to discuss the deeper meanings
    of life? What I find very interesting is, that DT has great lyrics to
    make you think of: What am I actually doing here? What is the purpose
    of life? What will the future bring us? etc. And not just the lyrics!
    Their music has a kind of influence that speakes without any lyrics,
    GREAT!!

    Hope to hear from you soon,

    Wim Slabbekoorn WSLABB@MAIL.HZEELAND.NL

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    Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 14:59:37 +0100
    From: Wim Slabbekoorn <wslabb@mail.HZeeland.nl>
    Cc: wslabb@mail.HZeeland.nl
    Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1126 -Reply
    Message-ID: <s0aa006e.040@mail.HZeeland.nl>

    Hi there!

    Here's a question for you from Holland! I read your very interesting
    information about DT in your mail, which arrived here on 13 November
    (Ytsejam 1126). I read some of your questions, and it's always
    interesting to read about bands like King's X and....Parallax. I
    don't know that band, I'm extremely interested to listen to some
    music of this band. Can you arrange something for me? Are there more
    bands like King's X and Parallax which have christian oriented
    lyrics? Or at least have christian musicians in its band? (Like
    Galactic Cowboys) I'm a fanatic DT-fan, I'm a christian, so I listen
    to a lot of christian bands. Do you know the band Decision - D from
    Holland? Or Dilemma, (from Amsterdam) which has some influences of
    DT. I listen to lots of music. All kinds of styles like the band
    'Jars of Clay' with acoustic instruments and hip-hop influences, it's
    very interesting, you know. Furthermore I mainly listen to symphonic
    rock like Queensryche, Shadow Gallery, Atomic Opera and stuff. I love
    it! I hope you can help me find more about bands with christian
    oriented lyrics, I'm looking forward to your reply,

    Are there any 'serious' DT-fans who want to discuss the deeper
    meanings of life? What I find very interesting is, that DT has great
    lyrics to make you think of: What am I actually doing here? What is
    the purpose of life? What will the future bring us? etc. I've read
    several of the mailings and what I see is that DT-fans are serious,
    talking about the music that creates things inside. And not just the
    lyrics! Their music has a kind of influence that speakes without any
    lyrics, GREAT!!

    Hope to hear from you soon,

    Wim Slabbekoorn WSLABB@MAIL.HZEELAND.NL

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    Date: Wed, 15 Nov 95 15:04 MEZ
    From: roland.theysohn@protel.de (Roland Theysohn)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: AD Dub
    Message-ID: <m0tFiSE-0003EnC@ns.protel.de>

    Hi Jammers,

    Just listening to the AD Dub (thanks Bernd :-) ) and i wondered about the
    great Sound,just on the Tape its sounds great.

    A BIG THANKS TO MIKE to make this wonderfull Thing.
    Iam just a Month on the List,and heard so much about DT,thats great,and I
    thank you all for you Creativy.Ok Jammers,now I go to listen the
    Subconscious Dub.:-)

    Hey Nomo...Whats up..dont recieve my last Mail?

               

                ----Oh no,that is the Kraut from Germany again-----

                    

                     DONT MISTAKE LACK OF TALENT FOR GENIUS

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    Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 10:04:03 EST
    From: bjm3@Lehigh.EDU (Merritt)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: trivia stuff
    Message-ID: <199511151504.KAA36238@ns1-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU>

    Hey all,
        First, for anyone who cares, I'll be going to the Birch Hill show Dec. 29.
        Look for the crazy motherfucker with the green afro and fish tank platform
        shoes. That's not me, he's a cool guy though. Second, here are some
        bands that fit the trivia criteria (if these have been posted before
        feel free to BITE ME): Kronos Quartet, the Beasties,
        Violent Femmes, Fishbone (okay, so they added a member, big deal). Ones
        I'm not sure of: Bad Religion (after they got back together), King
        Crimson, the New Kids (whoops, they're not a band!). That's off the top
        of my head, someone clarify if these are right/wrong. Rock on with your
        funky badass gangsta selves.

                                                   You give me energy,
                                                   Merritt

        P.S. All cultures suck and exist only for the purpose of derision! ;)

        

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    Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 16:08:13 CET
    From: "Andreas Woerner" <WOERNER@jerry.iued.uni-heidelberg.de>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Just a question...
    Message-ID: <276EADE3C67@jerry.iued.uni-heidelberg.de>

    Hi there!
    I'd like to ask all of you readers if anyone knows anything about the
    Queensryche CD-Rom that has been announced a long time ago. Here in
    Germany it is quite impossible to get any news about it, so if
    anyone could help me, please let me know.
    Here we go with a DT-related question: Why was Charlie Dominici never
    credited for Metropolis and To live forever (he sang both, I have
    bootlegs!)? Sometimes James even announced To live forever as a "new
    song". Not quite fair, in my opinion.
    That's all for today, bye (B-)
    Andreas

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    Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:36:53 -0500 (EST)
    From: An Angel's Kiss... <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: DT tattoos
    Message-ID: <9511151637.AA17212@anthor.arastar.com>

    > on another thread..do any ytsejammers have DT tattoos?
    > I have the Majesty/DT logo on my right arm in red, a bit like mikes but bigger..
    > if you wanna check it out I've a funny gif of when it was all scabby and raw!..
    > hehe

         Funny you should mention this - about a year ago, I got the flaming
    heart tattooed on my right calf. I always wanted something religious-ish
    for a tattoo, and when I saw this and found out about its meaning and
    all, I went and got it.....there's a few adaptations that are going to be
    added (the barbed wire is going around the rest of my calf and all), but
    otherwise....
         Next for me is an entire back piece of Dali's "The Crucifixion", or
    another Dali piece - all I need is the cash now..... :P

                                                    Al Balkiewicz
                                                    vocals, Half Naked

    >
    > Tim.
    >
    > "No-one can grow with nothing to inspire" -Fates Warning.
    >
    >
    >
    >

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    Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:36:37 -0500
    From: Brandon Ghioto <bgehio@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
    To: dream theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Message-ID: <Pine.DYN.3.91.951115111931.15701A-100000@unf6.cis.unf.edu>

    To the jammers,

    GUYS I GOT THE SILENT MAN CD!!! this is really great.TTT is so much
    better than the regular lp version. James does a really nice job with the
    vocal backing. The drums are also a little different if ya listen
    closely...they sound so ggggggrrrrrrreeaat!!!!(TTT-Tony the Tiger).

    Ok here's the real problem. I think that the s-man version of Eve is sooo
    much better than the subconcious version. My friend, on the
    other hand, thinks that the sub-c version has so much more emotion than
    the other and that the guitar take a little of that saddness away. I
    totallly disagree. The guitar on s-man bring to the song a greater
    quality of emotion. Which makes eve, in my opinion, probably the best
    "emotion" song they have. Not to offend some of you avid dreamers. Whats
    on your mind?

    Brandon (Stinkie-G)

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    Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:00:30 -0600
    From: dasanche@students.wisc.edu (Snatch)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Sorry
    Message-ID: <199511151700.LAA14398@audumla.students.wisc.edu>

    Sorry I sent that shit to the list. I didn't mean to, but I was listing the
    nicknames I use under Cc and I accidentally included the ytsejam.

    Please forgive me. I don't know what I do. Please forgive me. I can't
    stop loving you.

    JUST FUCKIN KIDDING. I don't even like that song. I am sorry about the
    stupid totem though.

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    Date: Nov 15, 1995 10:03:12
    From: duck <ldeluci@calstatela.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: NETHER WORDS
    Message-ID: <199511151803.KAA01184@jupiter.calstatela.edu>

    In-Reply-To: YTSEJAM digest 1131, From: ytsejam@arastar.com

    HELLO FELLOW JAMMERS,
          DOES ANYBODY KNOW IF FATES WILL BE TOURING WITH DT ON THEIR NEXT TOUR?
    I SORTA HOPE NOT BECAUSE THIS WAY FATES WILL HAVE A LONGER SET WHEN TOURING
    SOLO.
                  NETHER WORDS
       PROGRESSIVE, SPEED, THRASH METAL NEWSLETTER
           REVIEING THE LATEST DEMOS, INDEPENDENT AND
            MAJOR RELEASES. SHORT AND TO THE POINT.
                      SEND A STAMP TO:
                        NETHER WORDS
                     C/O DAN DELUCIE
                     615 S. MARGUERITA AVE.
                      ALHAMBRA, CA 91801
         ATTENTION BANDS!!!! SENDS YOUR DEMOS TO THE ABOVE ADDRESS TO BE REVIEWED
     THANK YOU.

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    Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:56:38 -0500 (EST)
    From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
    To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Kansas/Echolyn and other stuff.
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9511151238.A23937-b100000@bdmserver>

    When I saw Kansas this summer opening for Alan Parsons at a 15000
    seat outdoor pavillion, there was probably only about 4000 people there.
    Progressive bands need support!!!!!!!

    I can't really decide if I like Echolyn's As the World. It is nothing
    like DT. I will have to listen to it a bit more. Does everyone know that
    the skullike things on the cover are dried out carved apples? Someone in
    my office asked if I ever did that as a kid. I guess not....

    I was playing Cygnus in out lab and this one programmer goes "Is this Alice
    in Chains?". Hello???????

    Are there any really good Fates Warning boots out there?

    Will AL BALKEWICZ ever send me the tapes he has owed me for 9 months?????

    Dream Theater rules!

      **** Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com ****
    **** "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater ****
    **** "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files ****
      **** Album of the week:Savatage - Dead Winter Dead ****
      GO REDSKINS! GO CAPITALS! GO BULLETS! GO BROWNS??

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