YTSEJAM Digest 1136
Today's Topics:
1) Satriani tour
by borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
2) Re: Theater of Dreams
by v932407@si.hhs.nl
3) You missed at least one!
by jtack1@ic3.ithaca.edu
4) Moshing
by borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
5) The Mirror/moshing...
by Karri K Kiviluoma <kkiviluo@snakemail.hut.fi>
6) Acoustic Dreams Dubsite
by Jean-Francois_Cote@INRS-SANTE.UQuebec.CA
7) Re: Trivia Quiz & Tesla
by "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
8) Hello there, it's me again, in my misfit's way of life...
by "Andreas Woerner" <WOERNER@jerry.iued.uni-heidelberg.de>
9) King Crimson etc.
by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
10) MOSHING RULES!
by eyl7720 <eyl7720@garnet.acns.fsu.edu>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1129
by randrews@post.smu.edu (Robert Paul Andrews)
12) Complete Bands together for 5 albums
by brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken MacLeod)
13) new new trivia question
by zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
14) DT on Much Music
by imowatt@escape.ca (Ian Mowatt)
15) YTSEJAM digest 1134
by "Steven Johnson, P" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
16) Re: DT covering Iron Maiden's "Killers"
by Atsushi Kawami <kawami@ae.keio.ac.jp>
17) In the Court of the Quiz King
by Jeremy Lakatos <jeremy@grove.ufl.EDU>
18) constant line-ups
by sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
19) About me and Dream Theat
by Kris Claerhout <100522.625@compuserve.com>
20)
by Christopher White <whit0421@itlabs.umn.edu>
21) RE: Satriani Concerts
by P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk
22) DT sightings
by Michael.Bradley@mail.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley)
23) Important El-N-Gee info
by Matthew Sirois <ms014e@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
24) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1134
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
25) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1135
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
26) Disclaimer
by "Jehovah/Christ/Holy Spirit (GOD)" <hbeng180@HEAVEN.COM>
27) Primus NDTC
by "Jonathan D Heller" <hellerj1@pilot.msu.edu>
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 10:38:34 GMT
From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Satriani tour
Message-ID: <9511161038.AA00389@lively.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
David wrote:
> ps- this goes to patricia or graham in the uk (or anyone who sees satriani):
> is manu katche, andy fairweather low and nathan east touring with satch? i
> hope so....thanks
I think it's going to be Stu Hamm and Jonathan Mover, amongst others . . . YES!!
Graham B.
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 10:31:02 --100
From: v932407@si.hhs.nl
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Theater of Dreams
Message-ID: <9511160931.AA06688@kuyper.si.hhs.nl>
> Are you not the guy who was at that convention last Sunday promoting the
> Theater Of Dream fanclub and magazine?
I'm sorry, but what convention do you mean? In Utrecht (Platen & CD Beurs)?
Marcel
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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 13:38:22 -0500 (EST)
From: jtack1@ic3.ithaca.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: You missed at least one!
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.951115133458.66755C-100000@ic3.ithaca.edu>
> Guys, Guys, Guys, Guys, and girls (Jamie,Babs,airDance)...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hey, what about me???? :)
Jodi
(another "girl")
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:54:04 GMT
From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Moshing
Message-ID: <9511161154.AA19345@keppel.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
Damon wrote:
> I don't really think that Dream theater is a band you can mosh to, at
> least I hope not. I think DT is above the metal bands that seem to bring
> forth the mindless moshing that goes on at some concerts. Yes, I don't
> understand how people beating the shit out of one another is a cool thing.
Well, I don't understand how people can pay all that money to see their favourite bands
play live, standing right in front of them, and NOT jump around!
Christ, how would you feel if your audience stood there looking bored out of their minds?
If I were on stage, I'd much rather see everyone having fun and enjoying themselves, jumping
and moshing to my music, instead of staring mindlessly at my hands trying to work out
which damn fret my third finger is on.
GET A LIFE!
Graham B.
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 14:51:51 +0200 (EET)
From: Karri K Kiviluoma <kkiviluo@snakemail.hut.fi>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: The Mirror/moshing...
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.951116143447.4544A-100000@lk-hp-13.hut.fi>
Me again ...
Nice job Yitzik. I just think that the female character doesn't
HAVE to be his wife. ( I know, I know, 'Scarred' kinda implies
it). But the song could really be about every friend and relation-
ship. The female character doesn't have to be female either. But
DT songs usually work that way, that's why the lyrics are so
GRREEEAAATTT !!!. Every time I hear James singing 'I'll never
hurt you again' at the end I just get this thingy in my throat
and some moisture in my eyes. So I'm too sentimental, SO WHAT !! =)
Btw. It's *THE* Mirror, that's important =).
I don't agree to moshers missing something of the music. Man they
(sometimes even we =) LIVE the music. Let it flow through them and
take them away. But you have to be carefull so as not to disturb
the 'listeners' and at DT concert it's pretty impossible =).
I don't think I'd like to have a guys dropping on my head while
staring at JP's magical fingers with pure amazement =) So try
to discern the mood of the growd bfore U start banging some
heads =)
Oh and Carlo, Maiden's definitely is immortal (no exaggeration
there =). Uhhh.... I prolly should say was...*sigh* =(
I am ASHAMED !!! That beard thingy I posted awhile ago implied
(yes, a new word for me =P) that JP had the beard first. BUT
MIKE HAD HAD IT FOR AGES BEFORE THAT!! Please, PLEASE forgive me!
' Taste the memories running from my eyes '
Karri
kkiviluo@snakemail.hut.fi
Now playing: Jeff Beck's Guitar Shop
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 95 08:06:31 -0500
From: Jean-Francois_Cote@INRS-SANTE.UQuebec.CA
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Acoustic Dreams Dubsite
Message-ID: <H0000f5f0371dbe2@MHS>
Hello,
forgot to include the AD dubsite list in my last mail.So here it is.
Also, when ACoS came out, there was some talk on the jam about
a single, any news on that? I think PS would be a could choice
and it cjould defenitly get some airplay.
bye
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 08:42:00 -500 (EST) From: "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Trivia Quiz & Tesla Message-ID: <30AB3FCB.B99D.019D.000@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
>>Bands with at least five albums, still the same musicians etc. >>But seriously: Tesla and ZZTop (I guess they got the record) >I heard that Tesla just canned one of the guitarists.
Actually, yes and no. They did can Tommy Skeoch (ske-o) because he was way into drugs. He went into rehab while they were looking for a new guitarist to fill his spot. Then, out of the blue, I hear he comes back and "it's all better." So as far as I know, Tommy is still with Tesla- thus still qualifying them for the catagory...
Dan Temmesfeld s1133627@cedarville.edu
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 15:11:03 CET From: "Andreas Woerner" <WOERNER@jerry.iued.uni-heidelberg.de> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Hello there, it's me again, in my misfit's way of life... Message-ID: <28DF8484326@jerry.iued.uni-heidelberg.de>
Question 1:What's the error in the subject line and wheresit from? Question 2(the serious one): What is that little piece on the official Tokyo video during the drum solo when the guitar joins in? To put it in ASCII-music:
SHRIIEK-IIEK-IIEK ROAR-o-ROAR RUMBLERUMBLERUMBLE RUMBLERUMBLEetc. i i i | | | short double-bass guitar three low power-chords on guitar (probably frets 0-1-0 or similar) This first made me think of Sepultura, but I couldn't discover it so far. But I'm quite sure I've heard it before. BTW, in Offenbach, Germany in spring this year the guys threw in a bit of Slayer, namely the transition between Postmortem and Raining Blood: three drum hits in intervals, later filled by a guitar motive and finally a furious double-bass sequence. Don't know if they did this elsewhere. Thanks for the replies to my last question.. Bye, Andreas -still no sig, but a very personal smilie (B-)
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 95 15:21:46 +0100 From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: donews!nga Subject: King Crimson etc. Message-ID: <9511161421.AA01323@sundoc13.software-ag.de>
Hi all,
There is a lot of stuff being posted to the Jam concerning King Crimson at the moment, and some people are asking 'what should I listen to?'. Well, for what it's worth, here are my favourites
Lizard - 1970, I think. I only have it on vinyl, and it might be difficult to get on CD. Still with Greg Lake, and if my memory serves me right, Jon Anderson sings on one track too. I must listen to this again.
Starless and Bible Black - 1974(?). Wierd but excellent.
Red - 1974. A real masterpiece.
I know for sure that 'Red' and 'Starless and Bible Black' are available on CD because I've got them.
One of the things I especially like about this early stuff is the very effective use of the mellotron, which still has to be one of my favourite instruments. I remember seeing Rick Wakeman for the first time in '72: he was surrounded by three of the things just to get nine effects! Do any of the keys players on the Jam own and/or play one of the things?? To my mind, they sound much better that a lot of the electronic things that are played today.
Once again no DT content, but another of these trivia questions to close with for today: what is the best-selling record of all times (not as easy as you may think).
stay safe and happy listening Neil Gallop (nga@software-ag.de)
Currently playing: Red Hot Chili Peppers - One Hot Minute (one hot album)
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 09:42:29 -0500 (EST) From: eyl7720 <eyl7720@garnet.acns.fsu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: MOSHING RULES! Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.951116093855.62873B-100000@garnet.acns.fsu.edu>
Moshing breaks the boredom of normal concerts. I saw Megadeth and I wasn't able to mosh. That will probably the lamest concert I will ever go to. It was just like watching a music video. Are the jammers going to meet someplace before the NJ concert? -Suicyco "Everybodys doing to Toxic Waltz, kick your friend in the head and have a ball" -Exodus
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 08:54:41 -0600 (CST) From: randrews@post.smu.edu (Robert Paul Andrews) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1129 Message-ID: <m0tG5i6-000FhbC@post.cis.smu.edu>
> . My roomate, God save his soul, bought the Deep Blue Something CD yesterday, > and they sound like Junior Gin Blossoms, they even look alike. He bought it > for the ultra-trendy, new Gen-X slacker song "Breakfast at Tiffany's." These > bands all sound the same. They seem to have this formula; a weird name that > hints at a deep cosmic truth, even stranger song titles with typically irrele- > vant lyrics that somehow aptly describe anything and everything in a tightly- > wrapped, flannel-laden, three and a half minute package, and airplay from MTV. > Why is this happening? Does anybody know? These alternateen bands are all the > same. That's why I have become such an avid Dream Theater fan. There music is > so original, both in images and words. While these alternateen bands offer an > irrelevant and mindless product, it seems like Dream Theater actually cares > enough about their craft to put out such great material. Any thoughts about > these genetically-engineered clone bands made from the Bisquick alternateen > mix? A lot of it is crap, but you know, before you just give it another this band is just someone out there to hit Gen-X and then it's over idea, you need to give it another look. Personally, I enjoy DBS, they are a bunch of recent college grads from my area Denton TX, and started way before this little 'pop' hit. The Breakfast at Tiffany's you hear is the second version they have done on CD thanks to the addition of a rhythm guitar player. Believe it or not, I do enjoy Dream Theater very much though. THey have great songs and nothing can compare, but if you can't have variety in your life, you lead a sheltered one at that. --Rob
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 08:33:46 -0700 (MST) From: brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken MacLeod) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Complete Bands together for 5 albums Message-ID: <9511161533.AA23284@lamar.ColoState.EDU>
Hey All, I haven't noticed if anyone responding to this thread has mentioned King's X. Five albums (six if you count Builing Blox) and no member changes at all. This is not to mention Queensryche (who may have been mentioned) and Metallica (Mustaine left before Kill 'Em All). Oops, I mentioned 'em.
Slainte mhath, Bracken
"...Without music, life would be an error." Nietzsche -Twilight of the Idols-
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:07:33 -0500 (EST) From: zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: new new trivia question Message-ID: <199511161607.LAA12311@rpc18.gl.umbc.edu>
>Okay, here's my trivia question: >Name four players whose use of right-hand-hammer-ons (two-handed tapping) on >the guitar PRE-date Eddie Van Halen's.
<Question courtesy of Elliot Kim>
Well, let's see...
Brian May of Queen <the premiere rock tapper, IMO> Jimi Hendrix <wait, maybe Jimi was first...> Jeff Beck
Hmm...can't think of any more. <maybe Page...maybe Clapton... I dunno> I purposely didn't mention any classical players because it wouldn't be fair-- Segovia was tapping the fretboard while EVH was still in diapers!
A while ago someone asked why there were no singers on the Ytsejam. Whoh! Slow down! I'm a singer! I know Al Baskewicz is a singer! Come on, guys, speak up! In the meantime, I will continue my search for a chick that can shred like Yngwie. Then I'll be in love. For some reason, I am madly in love with Jennifer Batten, but if I saw her without a guitar I would most likely just think she was a freak!
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 10:11:26 -0600 From: imowatt@escape.ca (Ian Mowatt) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: DT on Much Music Message-ID: <199511161611.KAA14368@wpg-01.escape.ca>
Hey all,
Much Music finally played DT on the "Power 30" on Monday. Unfortunately, they didn't play Lie or CiaW like a few of us asked. Too bad, because I've never seen them.
Instead, they played PMU. It went out to Cam Wilson from Ottawa and Mike from Missasauga. Are you guys jammers?
We Canadian jammers should keep mailing them to play Lie or CiaW. Let's go!
On with the jam!
Ian ** ****************************************************** * Ian Mowatt imowatt@escape.ca * * * * * * "It's a small world, but I wouldn't want to paint it".* *********************************************************
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Date: 16 Nov 1995 09:52:09 GMT From: "Steven Johnson, P" <svjohnson@amoco.com> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1134 Message-ID: <199511161615.AA12173@interlock.amoco.com>
*** Reply to note of 11/15/95 21:52 MATS....PILL!!!! Seriously. The Jammer who didn't care for the King Crimson "Dinosaur" tune (on Conan) obviously heard the song and came away with a negative impression. Not everyone's gonna dig the stuff you're into and they mayn't express it the way you wnat them to. Expect it! Relax! It wasn't a flame toward anyone but that band at that time. Sheesh!
Anywho....If anyone knows of any DT appearances in Chicago, LEMME KNO!!!! They seem to hold clinics everywhere but the Great Lakes area! I mean, Chi-town is big enough for them to do something like that, no?
On the thread about "feeling" the music: I'm not sure if I really feel the majority of DT's tunes, but there are a select few that I do. Right off the bat I'd say 6:00 and ACOS are songs that I _must_ listen to in their entirety. The moods they create are ones that I must hear played out bigining to end. If I'm about to leave for work and the song isn't over, I'll be a little late for work ("Can't be king of the world if you're a slave to the grind" - 'Bas). These two songs are tone setters for whatever I do afterward. 6:00 is particularly good right before heading to league basketball (of which I am missing this season re: a sprained medial collateral (sp?) ligament! DAMMIT!!!!!!). Peace, out!
Steve
*************************************************************** Read between the lines. Criticize the words they're selling. And the feel the walls become sand beneath your feet. -"Anybody listening?", Queensryche
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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 01:35:13 +0900 From: Atsushi Kawami <kawami@ae.keio.ac.jp> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: DT covering Iron Maiden's "Killers" Message-ID: <9511161635.AA12672@lexus.ae.keio.ac.jp>
Hi, world jammers. How are you doin' though it's getting colder day by day here in Japan?
on YTSEJAM digest 1135 fates@ix.netcom.com (Carlo D'Angelo) said,
> I was wondering if any of the Japanese Jammmers could please e-mail > me as to what they thought of DT's cover of the classic "Killers" by > the immortal Iron Maiden (nah, I'm not being too exagerative am I?).
I like Iron Maiden much and have all of their official full album. It was unpredictable for me that they played IM's song in that show, so when the song began, I felt all my blood climbed up to my head and was let addict to that song. Since it was played as a part of instrumental medley, they played only short portion of Killers, but I thought it fitted into the medley and filled the role of a good connection from The Rover(Led Zeppelin) to Damage Inc.(Metallica). Needless to say about a technical aspect for them. > PLEASE, PLEASE play Killers!!!!!! It would also be nice if they could > throw in Rime of the Ancient Mariner too!
I like it, too. But only problem about playing that song is if they do it, their show will become more and more containing long songs. :)
> Anyhow, any info as what parts they played from the song.
They played only the awesome intro till the vocal comes in, because the medley was all instrumental.
sEE yA,
----------- Atsushi
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 12:08:21 -0500 (EST) From: Jeremy Lakatos <jeremy@grove.ufl.EDU> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: In the Court of the Quiz King Message-ID: <199511161708.MAA07527@bay.grove.ufl.edu>
First, the answer to my last quiz.
On PARALLELS, Fates Warning quotes Marillion (who DT like, especially MISPLACED CHILDHOOD), and probably a lot of other bands since it's a popular line: "Where do we go from here" ("White Russian")?
Second, Primus is a band with the same lineup...Ler was on SUCK ON THIS as well as all the later albums. Also, Phish, Queensryche count, to answer jammers' questions. I wonder if Strunz and Farah count--those two have remained consistent, but their studio and guest musicians wildly fluctuate.
Third, here's a lyric quiz. Identify:
"I see children with butterflies trapped inside jars Just girls and boys with real life toys I want to teach them to set them free And if it comes back it was meant to be"
-- If you can tolerate amateur poetry enough to do a SUCK/NOT SUCK poll, PLEASE check out http://grove.ufl.edu/~jeremy. (jeremy@grove.ufl.edu)
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 18:15:02 +0100 (MEZ) From: sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam - the Dream Theater mailing list) Subject: constant line-ups Message-ID: <9511161715.AA42951@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de>
Hi!
I can't believe that no one mentioned Queen yet, 20 years without one line-up change. Did I miss something?
Still waiting for AD...
Steffen
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Date: 16 Nov 95 12:22:24 EST From: Kris Claerhout <100522.625@compuserve.com> To: <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: About me and Dream Theat Message-ID: <951116172223_100522.625_JHB89-1@CompuServe.COM>
I noticed I never really introduced myself. I'm 31 and male and live in Belgium.
I work freelance as a writer/journalist for metal/rock magazines and computer magazines. I interviewed hundreds of fameous artists, even Dream Theater...
I also have my own business, an agency bringing over american bands and set up a tour for them mainly in Holland, Belgium and Germany and when possible in other European countries. The bands and tours I did recently were: Michael Lee Firkins, Mothers Finest, Dick Dale, The Brandos, Motorhead, Threshold, Conception,... The first tours planned for Spring are Michael Lee Firkins, Tony McAlpine, Tamas, Shadow Gallery, Reign, Crown Of Thorns, Phantom Blue,...
I also shop for bands trying to get them a deal. I just finished a great deal for a band. Before I was doing promotion work for several recording companies.
When you ask me I always want to tell more about all this. My fave songs are Learning To Live and Scarred.
Kris - all the way from Belgium ICE 9 Media Promotions
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 11:26:15 -0600 From: Christopher White <whit0421@itlabs.umn.edu> Message-ID: <199511161726.LAA08429@roadrunner.itlabs.umn.edu>
> Christ, how would you feel if your audience stood there looking bored out of their minds?
Ummm, just because you don't mosh, doesn't mean that you have to look bored. Swaying, singing, smiling, etc all show interest too. I personally think that moshing detracts from the show (especially groups like DT). And I've heard what some people on here have said (a long time ago when we had this discussion before -- I'm an oldtimer, just don't post much :) about people who don't want to mosh should stand in the back. Now how does THAT make any sense? People who want to SEE the show stand far away, people who just like smashing into other people and not watch the band, stand close.. That's pretty pointless. I've got to say though that the show I went to in Minneapolis was GREAT. People were NOT bored, everyone was really into the show, but they weren't moshing or disrupting anything. And another reason not to mosh: Did Labrie get pissed off at one show and just walk off because people were moshing? So if the band doesn't like it, more reason not to do it. Chris
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 17:44:05 +0000 From: P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: RE: Satriani Concerts Message-ID: <"3989*/I=P/S=McLoughlin/OU=bra0108/O=icl/PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS>
>.ps- this goes to patricia or graham in the uk (or anyone who >sees satriani): >is manu katche, andy fairweather low and nathan east touring with >satch? i >hope so....thanks No it's even better that that! It will be (and is now in Europe): Stu Hamm Jonothan Mover John Campetelli who I long to see Patricia
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 14:05:14 -0500 From: Michael.Bradley@mail.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: DT sightings Message-ID: <v01520d02acd13b4e04da@[157.252.65.110]>
Hey guys!
I was in a nearby Dick's Sporting Goods store(large chain of sports stores) and they were playing a video of extreme skiing. A familiar sound caught my attention, and, sure enough, the background music was "Pull Me Under" playing over and over again!! Cool!! Just thought I'd let you all know.
-Mike ( still looking for a new sig) Bradley
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 14:13:46 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Sirois <ms014e@uhura.cc.rochester.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Important El-N-Gee info Message-ID: <199511161913.OAA26323@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
Hello there.
Allow me to introduce myself, if you don't know me already. My name is Matt Sirois. I'm trying to coordinate somekind of get together for everyone going to the Dec 27 show in CT at the El-N-Gee.
Warning: This get-together falls into a grey area of arrangment. What this means is that it could be awesome if enough people respond, but could be a flop if only two guys show support. So far it's looking pretty good.
Of course, that's just cover-my-butt lawyer talk. (Mike who? :)
Anyway...
So far I've recieved a good number of names, but I'm still looking for EVERYONE going to the El-N-Gee show (and only the El-N-Gee show, someone else can deal with the others). If you're going to the El-N-Gee show, let me know. I'll e-mail you personally (so you won't miss any updates because you only skim the jam instead of readiny it thoroughly like a good little jammer). That's right, personal updates about the show, where everyone is meeting, and how many people are going to be there.
In addition, Trey Allen (tallen@junix.ju.edu) is trying to arrange a Ytsecon, but e-mail him with questions about that.
One more time: if you're going to the show in CT on the 27th, let me know, and I'll keep you up to date about any plans before/during/after the show.
Thanks!
Long live the Revolution... -matt
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 14:26:43 -0500 From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1134 Message-ID: <v01530501acd13e39da3f@[199.232.46.229]>
> From: Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> > > I don't really think that Dream theater is a band you can > mosh to, at least I hope not. I think DT is above the metal > bands that seem to bring forth the mindless moshing that > goes on at some concerts. Yes, I don't understand how people > beating the shit out of one another is a cool thing.
Oh. "beating the shit out of one another." I was thinking more in terms of standing still but banging your head. There are some definite head-bangin-heavy-parts in DT. Of course, sometimes they only last a few seconds before they switch to some 9/15 slow waltz section :|
--Marc R
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 14:26:53 -0500 From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1135 Message-ID: <v01530502acd13ff8432e@[199.232.46.229]>
> Well, I just got back from seeing The Steve Morse Band at > Mama Kin (club owned by Aerosmith) in Boston. I've been a > fan of the band for a long time, but in all honesty, I was > a bit dissappointed. It was *cool*, but nothing was > *really* impressive and I wasn't blown away like I thought > I would have been. The John Finn Group opened, but I missed > them because I had to work tonight. I heard they were > *amazing*, though. Damn!
Brian,
You suck!! I can't believe I missed this. I didn't even know about it. BTW, have you heard Jon Finn's band? They are amazing. You should pick up Don't Look So Serious. The bassist is truly out of his mind. I studied with him for a while. Right before I quit, he went back to Charlie Banacos.
--Marc Respass
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 12:01:30 -0800 (PST) From: "Jehovah/Christ/Holy Spirit (GOD)" <hbeng180@HEAVEN.COM> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Disclaimer Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.951116114955.9109B-100000@huey.csun.edu>
Any reference to Me is merely the opinion of the poster and should not be considered devinely inspired. I reserve the right to judge all in anyway that I see fit and do not hold Myself accountable to rules set up by the writings of mortals.
GOD
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Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 15:09:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan D Heller" <hellerj1@pilot.msu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Primus NDTC Message-ID: <199511162009.PAA41253@pilot08.cl.msu.edu>
To answer a question that has been floating around... Does promus qualify for this 5 albums thing?? Yes and No
1. Larry LaLonde did play guitar on _Suck on this_ 2. All of their comercial releases have the same band members.
but the band members are not the original members of Primus. The band Sausage is actually the original members of Primus (sorry I do not have the names infront of me). but, they never realsed an album under the name of Primus and did not realease under the name of sausage until about 2 years ago. All for now..... back to the jam
dreamtheaterrushthoughtindustrykaltemelkerhanhmdfurchtediemilchkuhlordsofacidm | Jon Heller y | hellerj1@pilot.msu.edu [still under construction. l e ZBT BE Please excuse our dust] i o Computer Science/EE f h e naviniatnuofretaweciyrtsinimslianhcnienintumlehsumirploottlukllikllirhtehthtiw
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