YTSEJAM digest 1146

From: ytsejam@arastar.com
Date: Mon Nov 20 1995 - 17:57:04 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 1146

    Today's Topics:

      1) A Dreamy Day In London
     by P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk
      2) WANTED: A copy of Acoustic Dreams
     by euan@waikato.ac.nz (Euan Kilgour)
      3) Re: Moshing (Chris White)
     by whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White)
      4) God quotes
     by The Digital Man <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
      5) Give us shelter...
     by James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
      6) IRC
     by Thrak <ross_s@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
      7) So, you want a God quote???
     by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
      8) Chuck D. kicks ass!!!
     by Joe Satriani <bd24208@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu>
      9) lie.mov video
     by Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
     10) WDATU CD UPDATE
     by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
     11) ATTENTION RICHARD MEDOS
     by "Rau , Stefan T" <SRAU01@student.ucis.vill.edu>
     12) Ooh! Ooh! I've GOT one!
     by laussade@enet.net (Ktulu)

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    Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 01:11:02 +0000
    From: P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: A Dreamy Day In London
    Message-ID: <"4020*/I=P/S=McLoughlin/OU=bra0108/O=icl/PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS>

             
             I did see that someone said not to post too many entries at one
             time, but when I come in after the weekend there is so much to
             tell.
             
             London News:
             
             1. THE MARQUEE has not closed yet ! VOIVOD will play there Dec
             1st.
             
             2. In Camden Market, going back to the tube (underground railway)
             I heard some familiar strains from a market music stall -
             'Happiness is a Warm Gun' - did he have a Ronnie Scotts bootleg?
             
             ytseuk: Who's that playing, is it Dream Theater ?
             
             stallholder : The Beatles White Album, why, has somebody covered
                            it ?
             
             ytseuk: Err ... Yess...
             
             Amazing that it should be playing just as I passed
             
             3. Virgin Records, no listing fo Dream Theater's Perfect Strangers
                single yet.
             
             4. After the 'Glenn Hughes' - ex Deep Purple singer - concert,
             standing around talking to his fans about him, Deep Purple, Ossie,
             Joe Satriani, then I said 'has anyone heard of my favourite band '
             Dream Theater'.
             I can only describe the reaction as *** EXPLOSIVE *** !!!, a
             comunal shriieekk worthy of James himself.
             They all think Dream Theater are fantastic. I collected e-mail
             addresses of two future jammers, poor Achillies has the I&W video
             but NO VCR and he has never seen DT, indeed he thought that the
             forum gig last March was the first playing from AWAKE. I have sent
             
             For UK jammers in the Norwich area, one guy is a drummer in a band
             called 'Greyhound' who play locally.
             
             5. more London dates:
             
             13th Dec Love/Hate LA2
                       
                            Blue Oyster Cult Forum
             
                            Fish Grand Clapham
             
             14th 'Presidents of the USA' Garage Highbury
             
             30th Jan Melissa Etheridge Shepherds Bush Empire
             
             18- 28 Feb 1-3 Mar Eric Clapton Royal albert Hall
             
             8th March TORI AMOS Royal Albert Hall
                       (thought you'd like that one)
             
             Patricia

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    Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 14:20:54 +1200
    From: euan@waikato.ac.nz (Euan Kilgour)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: WANTED: A copy of Acoustic Dreams
    Message-ID: <v01510100acd6e7ae276c@[130.217.82.139]>

    I must have a copy of this wonderful album.

    I don't get the jam anymore so please email me. I'll pay for postage/shipping.

    Cheers everyone!

    ------------------------------

    Date: Mon, 20 Nov 95 21:18:10 EST
    From: whit8275@cs.fredonia.edu (Chris White)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: Moshing (Chris White)
    Message-ID: <9511210218.AA10056@mary.cs.fredonia.edu>

    > That is about the dumbest thing I've ever heard, comparing Dream Theater
    > concerts to symphonys. If a band is going to play hard core shit than
    > they should expect moshing. I know not every song by DT is hard core and
    > I'm not saying all their songs should be moshed to but a lot of their
    > stuff is as heavy as good ol' classic Bay Area thrash so they should
    > expect mosh pits at their concerts.
     
      Maybe if you'd learn to read, you wouldn't take my comments totally out
    of context. I wasn't relating DT to a symphony. But someone made the comment
    that because they pay for the ticket to see the show, they should be able to
    do whatever they want there (mosh, stand, dance, whatever), regardless of what
    the band wanted. My comparison wasn't that DT was anything like a symphony,
    it was that if a person bought a ticket to a symphony, would they have the
    right to start moshing there? The answer obviously is no, and if someone
    started to, I'm sure the orchestra (and the paying patrons) would become
    upset. Buying a ticket does not give people the right to do whatever they want
    at a concert. In my opinion, since LaBrie doesn't like moshing, it shouldn't
    be done at the concert out of respect for the band, that's all I was saying.
    So learn to read, nobody else seems to have a problem with what I said, and
    in fact someone elaborated a bit (don't remember who, sorry :) saying that
    "Hey, we pay the ticket price, so we should be able to go on stage and play
    Petrucci's guitars, right?".
              Chris

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    Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 21:50:27 -0500 (EST)
    From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
    To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: God quotes
    Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.951120214940.268870B-100000@moose.uvm.edu>

    "Thank God I'm an atheist." - Merlo

    Oh, yeah. Bafu.

    ***************************************************************
    * Christopher R. Merlo |8^)= *
    * The University of Vermont, 211 Jeanne Mance Hall *
    * Burlington, VT 05405 U.S.A. *
    * cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu http://www.uvm.edu/~cmerlo *
    * *
    * * Will work for bass strings * *
    ***************************************************************

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    Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 03:41:19 -0500
    From: James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Give us shelter...
    Message-ID: <Pine.DYN.3.91.951104033622.27295B-100000@unf6.cis.unf.edu>

    Well,
    Elliott's idea to go the NJ show has attracted about 10 Florida jammers
    now... It looks like we'll be making a ytse-caravan up to the show...

    Jammer's in the area: We would love to sleep on your floor... The job
    market stinks in Florida and we're all doing this on a tight budget...
    (right guys? Trey? Doug?) Any ideas? Help us, please.... :)

    E-mail: jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu
     or : ekim01@fiu.edu

    Thanks guys and gals,
    Jay Peele
    INFERNO

    ------------------------------

    Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 22:11:08 -0500 (EST)
    From: Thrak <ross_s@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: IRC
    Message-ID: <01HXVRDC0TTU8X9AAK@jhmail.hcf.jhu.edu>

    Ok, first...I was the one who accidentally locked the IRC room. It was
    locked for maybe 5 minutes before Ben realized that I had done it. I'm sure
    it was unlocked by 8:10. One reason those four may have been on for an hour
    or so, and not seen Ben, Bafu, or any of the rest of us, is that there are
    two major IRC networks, the Efnet, and the undernet. The two networks don't
    link up, so if you're on an Undernet server, you can't talk to people on an
    Efnet server, and vice versa. Bafu, Ben, and I were on an Efnet server, and
    it's Efnet that Samsonite often keeps a channel open on. So, for everyone
    who's trying to make the Sunday meetings, make sure you're on an Efnet
    server. (I use irc.sdsc.edu or irc-2.mit.edu) I'm on alot, including times
    other than Sundays, so I hope to see you all there (and sorry for locking
    some people out. It won't happen again.)

    Thrak (who's pissed his BMG shipment didn't include Awake)

    ------------------------------

    Date: Mon, 20 Nov 95 19:50:04 PST
    From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: So, you want a God quote???
    Message-ID: <9511210350.AA01076@tengs1.teng>

    How's this:

    "For God so loved the world, that he sent
    his only begotten Son, that whoever should
    believe in him, will not die, but instead
    have eternal life."

    Anyone want to guess where *that* one comes
    from? Bafu, Ben... Bueller??? (heh heh heh heh)

    There's thousands more from the same source.
    Did I offend anyone? Hopefully. (Take a hint
    and stop this thread).

    Zach

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    Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 23:08:54 -0500 (EST)
    From: Joe Satriani <bd24208@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Chuck D. kicks ass!!!
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951120225420.5250A-100000@bingsun1>

            CHARLIE DOMINICI KICKS ASS!
    Anybody who does not like early DT obviously has not heard it enough. I
    didnt exactly like Another Day or Surrounded until I actually listened to
    them and did not skip over them to get to TTT and Metropolis. There is
    nothing wrong with Charlie's singing either. You guys that dont like him
    are just used to Labrie singing. It was a little strange the first time
    I heard Labrie sing A fortune in Lies and The Killing Hand. I managed to
    get my hands on a copy of Charlie singing Metropolis, it sounded just as
    good back then.
                            - A concerned Charlie fan
     

    ------------------------------

    Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 23:08:37 -0500 (EST)
    From: Brian Wherry <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
    To: DT List <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: lie.mov video
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9511202339.D13522-0100000@acs4.bu.edu>

            Damn thing took all day to download...... and then, NUTTIN'!!

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    Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 22:44:51 -0700 (MST)
    From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Cc: durnik@indirect.com
    Subject: WDATU CD UPDATE
    Message-ID: <199511210544.WAA02239@bud.indirect.com>

    LIMITED EDITION COMPACT DISCS
    Information and Update
    Current to 11/21/1995

    Currently available: Rush "Cygnus"

    Currently open to pre-ordering: Dream Theater "When Dream and Today Unite"

    SOLD OUT: Dream Theater "Subconscious"
              Dream Theater "Acoustic Dreams"

    Coming soon: Dream Theater "Antiquities"
                 Rush "Legends"
                 Dream Theater "Scenes From a Memory"
                 Public Affection (+Live+) "Death of a Dictionary"

    NOTE: INTERNET EMAIL ADDRESS CHANGE: I am now durnik@indirect.com

    NEWS: I have changed packaging mailers at the request of some Jammers who
            received crushed packages of Acoustic Dreams. I hope the new padded
            bubble mailers work better. :)

    ============================================================================
    DISCLAIMER: These recordings fall into a grey area of law as an uncopyrighted
    recording produced in such a manner that at least one facet of the production
    occurs in a country (namely Italy) in which it is legal to do so. In the USA,
    it is permissible to sell used import CDs only if they are labeled as such.
    This is such a CD. Be aware that the various powers-that-be are collecting
    nothing for this.
    ============================================================================

            Of course, that's all cover-my-butt lawyerspeak. I hope you all will
    want to be a part of this. I make roughly minimum wage doing it, so you know
    I'm not out to scam you. In all humility, I appeal to anyone who might not
    think too kindly of my endeavor, and ask that they might give me the benefit
    of the doubt on this one. Friends? :)

    1. What is Cygnus?
    2. What is When Dream And Today Unite?
    3. What is Antiquities?
    4. What is the release schedule?
    5. How can I get my own copy of one of these CDs?
    6. Orders received for Acoustic Dreams and When Dream and Today Unite.
    ============================================================================

    1. What is Cygnus?

            Hi all! Allow me to introduce myself, if you aren't familiar with me
    yet. I'm Mike Bahr, humble maker of special-edition CDs. I noticed a lot of
    the mass-manufactured bootleg offerings were spiralling quite high in price
    and yet offered little for the die-hard fan, and I concocted a scheme by
    which I could make around minimum wage by producing CDs on my own, CDs that
    would fill the demand for REAL rarities and special songs, unreleased items,
    live shows, and the like.

            Basically, since no CD plant will print them for me, I have to rent
    studio and equipment time and do it myself. So far, it's working. :)

            Fortunately, and for this I am very relieved, my Subconscious CD
    has been incredibly well-received by the net community, especially the
    Ytsejam mailing list. Then, I received a great response from Acoustic
    Dreams, and that pretty much settles the question of whether I'm going to
    keep doing this or not. :)

            And now, I do have copies of Rush "Cygnus" CD remaining. There are
    not many. I implore you to get one now before they're gone, if you're a Rush
    fan and want this collector's item CD.

            It is a Rush recording from the mystical Hemispheres tour of 1978.
    I still have some copies available. It was recorded from a soundboard reel
    and the quality is comparable to that of Electric Ladyland '74. It's full
    stereo and the bass and vocals are very clear, the effects very defined, but
    the drum sound has heard better days. It's still better than 99% of all the
    Rush shows on tape, I can attest to that specifically. :)

            Track listing:

            1. Anthem
            2. A Passage to Bangkok
            3. By-Tor and the Snow Dog ->
                    i. At the Tobes of Hades
                    ii. Across the Styx
                    iii. Of the Battle
            4. Xanadu
            5. Something For Nothing (glitch at end, missing nearly nothing)
            6. The Trees
            7. Cygnus X-1 (dropout at end, missing last 16 secs before bells)
            8. Cygnus X-1 Book II: Hemispheres
                    i. Prelude
                    ii. Apollo
                    iii. Dionysus
                    iv. Armageddon (dropout at end, missing ~40 secs of closing)
                    v. Cygnus
                    vi. The Sphere
            9. Circumstances
           10. A Farewell to Kings

            The dropouts aren't a big deal really, but in the interest of
    honesty I am pointing them out. They were on the master reel. Also, like
    Subconscious and Acoustic Dreams, this CD does not bear the name "Rush".
    It says "Cygnus" on the label and lists cover credits. Don't be fooled; it's
    Rush, just like the others are DT. It's for legal reasons. Before Italy
    started making boots in 1991, all US vinyl boots were the same way.

    2. What is When Dream and Today Unite?

            This work, still in production, contains all the songs from When
    Dream and Day Unite, only performed live with James LaBrie at the helm. It
    should be released around Christmas. Here's the tracklisting:

            1. A Fortune In Lies
            2. Status Seeker
            3. Ytsejam
            4. Another Hand/The Killing Hand
            5. Light Fuse and Get Away
            6. Mission Impossible
            7. Afterlife
            8. The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun
            9. Only A Matter Of Time
           10. March of the Tyrant
           11. To Live Forever
           12. Moon Bubbles

            I've already begun accepting early orders for this, if you don't mind
    the wait. The details on ordering are below.

            All the performances from this, as many as could be, are from original
    performances not common on bootlegs. I did not use Live at the Marquee, Dance
    of Eternity, Lost in the Sky, or others like them, except that Status Seeker
    was only available in good quality on Dream Out Loud. I'll post a full source
    list when the CD gets spread around a bit as far as distribution.

            I'm currently in the process of creating the CDs themselves. They will
    get sent for printing, emulsion inks, packaging, and liner printing at the end
    of November, setting me up for a Christmas release. The CD printing plants are
    a bit overbooked just now because of the spring release schedules, so this
    might take a little longer... but I expect no undue problems. After all,
    somehow, Acoustic Dreams made it out on schedule, hard as it was.

    3. What is Antiquities?

            This one is just now taking shape from being a primordial ooze of
    proteins and algae into a finished, gleaming, streamlined CD. I'll have more
    details on it here as it gets developed. The master tapes are already being
    prepared to be made into a single master, and I've got an artist hard at work
    on the cover, as well as contracting for CD plant pressing time. Man, it
    sucks to have to do stuff this far in advance to get a CD out on time! :)

            So far, loosely slated for inclusion are:

    . A Change of Seasons with Chris Cintron on vocals, demo
    . The remaining (not already released by me) vocalist auditions
    . The outtakes from Live at the Marquee (Glass Moon, Ytsejam)
    . A handful of errata, extra stuff, weird edits, and the like.

    4. What is the release schedule?

    Here is the current schedule of releases as I see it (all dates estimated):

    NOW - Rush: "Cygnus" released/shipping
    NOW - Dream Theater: "When Dream and Today Unite" ordering begins
    12/25/1995 - Dream Theater: "Antiquities" ordering begins (TENTATIVE)
    12/25/1995 - Dream Theater: "When Dream and Today Unite" released/shipping
    01/15/1996 - Rush: "Legends" ordering begins
    02/01/1996 - Dream Theater: "Scenes From a Memory" ordering begins
    02/15/1996 - Public Affection: "Death of a Dictionary" ordering begins
    02/15/1996 - Dream Theater: "Antiquities" released/shipping
    02/30/1996 - Rush: "Legends" released/shipping
    03/17/1996 - Dream Theater: "Scenes From a Memory" released/shipping
    03/30/1996 - Public Affection: "Death of a Dictionary" released/shipping
    04/--/1996 - Live or Type O-Negative: To be announced
    05/--/1996 - Dream Theater: To be announced

    Here are a few descriptions to keep your curiosity satiated :)

    Dream Theater "Subconscious"
            Released 04/03/1995 - Limited Edition - 500 copies - sold out
            Contained Dream Theater rarities including A Change of Seasons.
            All copies were hand initialed/numbered in gold for authenticity.
    Rush "Cygnus"
            Released 08/14/1995 - Limited Edition - 1000 copies - still available
            Contains a rare soundboard show from the Hemispheres tour.
    Dream Theater "Acoustic Dreams"
            Released 09/30/1995 - Limited Edition of 500 copies - sold out
            Each copy is hand signed/numbered in silver for authenticity.
            Contains beautiful unplugged performances.
    Dream Theater "When Dream and Today Unite"
            To be released 12/25/1995 - Limited print of either 500 or 1000.
            Contains the songs from Dream and Day only with James LaBrie on
            vocals. Collected from MANY sources and optimized for quality.
    Dream Theater "Antiquities"
            To be released 02/15/1996 - Limited print of either 500 or 1000.
            Each copy will be hand signed/numbered for authenticity.
            Will contain vocalist auditions, demos, errata, outtakes, unfinished
            works, unreleased tracks, and the like.
    Rush "Legends"
            Details TBA - Limited print of 500 copies, MIGHT be 2CD set.
            Each copy will probably be authenticated.
            Contains a SOUNDBOARD SHOW FROM THE COUNTERPARTS TOUR! YEAH!
    Dream Theater "Scenes From a Memory"
            Details TBA - Limited print of 500 copies.
            Each copy will be hand signed/numbered for authenticity.
            This could wind up being any of four or five different shows or song
            collections, as there are a few soundboard tapes I'm working on to
            try and get a good sound out of them.
    Public Affection "The Death of a Dictionary"
            Details TBA - Unlimited print
            Is actually +Live+'s little-known first album, released in 1989,
            two years before their 1991 breakthrough Mental Jewelry. Demand for
            this one is skyrocketing, and the Jam gets first shot at it. The
            only thing stopping it right at the moment is the overwhelming
            demand for the DT discs and the lack of manpower on my end. This
            *will* be released before too much longer.

    The following are all "Work in Progress" releases...
    Rush "A Symptom of Life" - from 12/20/81 2nd gen soundboard
    Rush "Concordant Crossroads" - from 3/24/81 audience MASTER in stereo
    Rush "The Age of Wonders" - from a remastered 6/25/75 Toronto
    +Live+ "Disenchanting Discourse" - from a 10/25/94 audience MASTER in stereo
    Type O-Negative "Deathgrip" - from a 5/30/94 audience MASTER in stereo
    Dream Theater... oh who knows, there's so much good stuff.

    5. How can I order a copy of one of these CDs?

            As stated before, I'm already shipping the CDs by and by. I ship
    orders in the order I received your checks, so those of you who sent your
    mail around when ordering began, those will be the first CDs out the
    door. I usually get a couple dozen a day into the mail. Be sure to correct
    this against the release schedule... e.g. I'm caught up on Cygnus so those
    will turn around fast. Acoustic Dreams is still in a queue and I'm crankin
    those out as fast as possible. WDATU is still in pre-order and won't ship
    until the end of December anyhow.

            Feel free to e-mail me to reserve a copy for you, so that your mail
    will have a copy allocated to it already (and not be a victim of "no-more-
    disc-syndrome").

            The numbering, excepting special requests when possible, will fill
    in the order I receive the mail orders. It's only fair after all. I'll
    reserve a copy for someone over e-mail, but if thirty people get their
    orders in before he or she does, it's not fair for me to still hold copy
    #014 or whatever. You all get the idea... these decisions are just in the
    effort to make it fair for all.

            Note: Cygnus was not numbered, nor will Public Affection be. All
    others so far are numbered for authenticity.

            Please, I stress to all of you, don't miss these if you missed
    Subconscious and Acoustic Dreams. It really does pain me to have to tell a
    fellow DT fan that there simply aren't any more Sub discs to be had,
    especially because I would be MORE than glad to sell one if I had it.

            The pricing for all the CDs so far is as follows ($2 discount for
    Cygnus if you're on the Jam.)

            Base cost: $25.00 US
            Additional postage USA free
            Additional postage Canada / Mex $1.00 US
            Additional postage Scandinavia $3.00 US *
            Additional postage Europe / UK $4.00 US
            Additional postage Japan $5.00 US
            Additional postage Aus/NZ/etc. $5.00 US

            * Scandinavia includes Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark. For some
            reason postal rates are lower than for mainland Europe or the UK.

            Postal rates were changed, but the postage cost MUST ONLY BE PAID
    ONCE. If you live in Europe and you order 4 discs, the cost is $104.00 US
    ($25.00 x 4, plus $4.00 postage) and not $116.00 US. Thus, if you have
    friends who want copies, I am more than willing to help you out. :) So no
    matter how many CDs you want, only add the postage cost Once.

            Things are pretty simple from here. Send along a money order for
    $25 bucks to my address, being sure to include a note with your name, the
    address to ship to, your email address, and WHICH CDs you're ordering so I
    know which ones to send you...... and HOW MANY you're ordering. As before,
    international customers may use whatever means of payment is most convenient
    for them, though I stress that sending cash is risky and should not be a
    first option, but a backup plan. :) CHECKS: I don't really mind them, but in
    the effort to be seen as a serious and responsible net merchant, I always
    recommend the traceable-both-ways Money Order as a preferred form of payment.
    So while checks are perfectly OK, they may or may not be the option you
    choose to take. Some people ask WHY a money order is better... they're
    equally traceable, but the penalties are very severe for money order fraud
    and they're not too bad for checks.

            Please make out checks and money orders to me, Michael Bahr.

            The address and so on is me at:

            Mike Bahr - Cygnus (or WDATU)
            3175 N. Price Rd. #1066
            Chandler, AZ 85224

            My home telephone number, available as a courtesy to you, is
    1-602-777-0501. I am usually not home on weekends (band practice) so try
    during the week, between 6pm and 11pm pacific time, for best results. Also,
    please use discretion when handling this number, as it is, after all, my own
    home phone, and I will be very confused if a stranger calls at 3:00 AM. :)
    I trust you Jammers to be cool about it, as you always have in the past.
    Also... watch your time zones! I had one fellow calling at 6:00 AM. Owch!

            Oh, one more thing, people. Don't call me asking if I have any
    extra copies of Acoustic Dreams "just set aside for the people who call." I
    don't. I reserved/sold them ALL off. Unless I say there are more copies
    available, there aren't any. It was sort of insulting for people to ask that
    over the phone, as though I was going to give away a reserved copy just
    because someone had me on the phone at the time.

    6. Orders received.

    READ THE PARAGRAPH BELOW. A LOT OF YOU DID NOT READ IT AND MAILED ME WITHOUT
    UNDERSTANDING IT. READ IT.

            This is NOT "reservations"... it's paid-for orders. If you have a
    reservation, it's still valid, trust me. :) These are just the numbers that
    are filled. Also there are a handful of "saved numbers" in there.

    Acoustic Dreams

    001 Master 002 Press Master A 003 Press Master B
    004 Mike Bahr 005 Justin Poulter 006 Steve McMaster
    007 David Fox 008 Robert Dalton 009 John Kotzian
    010 Michael Burstin 011 Brian Cox 012 Scott Hansen
    013 Mike Portnoy 014 Mike Portnoy 015 Mike Portnoy
    016 Bracken MacLeod 017 John Nguyen 018 Nathan Bradley
    019 Jeremy Smith 020 Todd Masek 021 Graham Borland
    022 Mark Tedhams 023 Brian Fieg 024 Adam Japhet
    025 Steve Chew 026 Kristian Reyes 027 Alan Wilds
    028 Jeff Stewart 029 Matt McIntosh 030 Brian Polka
    031 Stephan Dobay 032 Dale Newberry 033 Scott Hansen
    034 Sanjeev Ghai 035 Sanjeev Ghai 036 Mike Robinson
    037 Paul Poehler 038 Lisa Gaunt 039 Tracy Mangum
    040 Jeff Forte 041 Robert Castilone 042 Bracken MacLeod
    043 Jean-Francois Cote' 044 Uffe Moller 045 Steve Esterle
    046 Chad Smith 047 Scott McCammon 048 David Edwards
    049 Craig Newmeyer 050 Partha Mukhopadhyay 051 Dave Silva
    052 Dave Silva 053 Dave Silva 054 Dave Silva
    055 Robert MacAusland 056 Jason Breitweg 057 Demetris Papallis
    058 Adam Marshall 059 Paul Goracke 060 Andrew Garinger
    061 Alex Fraser 062 Uffe Moller 063 Fred Ward
    064 Matt Masi 065 Iwahori Tomonori 066 Iwahori Tomonori
    067 Michael Backof 068 Brian Ross 069 Anna Davidson
    070 Kjetil Nordahl 071 Kjetil Nordahl 072 Kjetil Nordahl
    073 Bill Wrightson 074 S. Johnson 075 Jaison John
    076 Jaison John 077 Craig Newmeyer 078 Paul Humm
    079 Jay Miller 080 Astrid De Ronde 081 Jason MacDonald
    082 Scott Kuennen 083 Scott Kuennen 084 Rick Beem
    085 Mike Ringelstetter 086 Conrad Chi 087 Brian Kirk
    088 Brian Adams 089 Chris Freel 090 Chris Freel
    091 Patrick Davis 092 Dave Fausel 093 Chris Derobertis
    094 Sean Brady 095 S. Craig Caldwell 096 Andrew Stiles
    097 Gregory Bunker 098 Eddie Webb 099 Edwin Million
    100 Jenn Albert 101 Jenn Albert 102 Jeff Hill
    103 Mike Olekshy 104 David Delmont 105 Derek Bober
    106 Adam Japhet 107 Jamie Burks 108 George Fan
    109 Tony Maglia 110 Stephen Soukup 111 Sookapat Niyomthai
    112 David DeSalvo 113 Randy Haskin 114 Jennifer Sharward
    115 Bryan Hunter 116 Bryan Hunter 117 Todd Dakin
    118 J. R. McCullough 119 Jeff Chew 120 Patrick Sullivan
    121 Patrick Sullivan 122 Pete Dziadzka 123 Ken Bibb
    124 Jason Russell 125 Gary Ake 126 Bernd Basmer
    127 Stefan Sutter 128 Chad Cook 129 Jason Danio
    130 Brandon Elhai 131 Mathew Yee 132 Eric Gauthier
    133 Eric Gauthier 134 Wilco Barg 135 Joe Kruger
    136 Rob Pociluk 137 Brenden Thomson 138 Marton Stromgald
    139 Asif Khan 140 Jarrod Ramsey-Lewis 141 Jon Kretschmer
    142 Jon Kretschmer 143 Michael Pomerleau 144 Ronald Tijhuis
    145 Bill Nottingham 146 James Garrett 147 Reenoitnevnoc
    148 Stephane Auzilleau 149 Stephane Auzilleau 150 Stephane Auzilleau
    151 Stephane Auzilleau 152 Bear Jason 153 Ken Hugo Hoili
    154 Paul Cashman 155 Shigeru Yamashita 156 Brian Ross
    157 Takumi Akiyama 158 John Sievers 159 David Russum
    160 David Russum 161 David Russum 162 Stefan Rau
    163 Stefan Rau 164 Martin Hayter 165 Martin Hayter
    166 Eugene Szucs 167 Warren Williams 168 Tilman Kuendgen
    169 Tilman Kuendgen 170 Tilman Kuendgen 171 Chad Preston
    172 Gregory Cole 173 Heath Augustover 174 Chris Fyhr
    175 Chris Fyhr 176 Chris Fyhr 177 Bill Huston
    178 Tim Jensen 179 James Abraham 180 Jeffrey Smith
    181 Michael Coghlan 182 Brett Owens 183 David Kobayashi
    184 Elliott Kim 185 Ed Polzin 186 Sean Gill
    187 Tim Altman 188 Alexis Ramos 189 James Daugherty
    190 Jon Heller 191 George Bast 192 Paul Cashman
    193 Ramin Miraftabi 194 Stacie Rosenzweig 195 Ryan Whitaker
    196 Brian Vivier 197 Kevin Villines 198 Mike Rapazzo
    199 Koby Fuessler 200 Merieke Ri Berit 201 Chris Pokladnik
    202 Ties Gobel 203 Ties Gobel 204 Chuck Hanley
    205 Yuji Miyazaki 206 Chad David 207 Chad David
    208 Chad David 209 Bill Polymenakos 210 Greg Sands
    211 Greg Sands 212 Ryan Park 213 Evelyn Lauer
    214 James Abraham 215 Jun-Dai Bates 216 Carmen Pezzone
    217 Carmen Pezzone 218 Tom Tubbiola 219 Ryan Skadberg
    220 Ryan Skadberg 221 Patricia McLoughlin 222 Jacob Caminati
    223 Rob Schenk 224 Carmen Pezzone 225 Jason Russell
    226 Kevin Czarnecki 227 Randall Braun 228 Eric Marlett
    229 Richie Rivera 230 David Hafke 231 Greg Pickesimer
    232 Itchak Schwarzbard 233 Brian Anderson 234 Brian Anderson
    235 David Carver 236 Matthew Berger 237 James Delaney
    238 Matt Palzewicz 239 Mark Metzger 240 Chris Mahaffey
    241 John Jens 242 John Jens 243 Jan-Michael Souter
    244 Andreas Kasper 245 Stuart Booth 246 Jan Melander
    247 Brian Diefenderfer 248 Jon Gibbens 249 Tim Villa
    250 Brian Vivier 251 Rick Atkinson 252 Steve Chenevey
    253 Evan Thomson 254 Evan Thomson 255 Evan Thomson
    256 Mike Stoner 257 Brandon Vaughn 258 Dobronte Gabor
    259 Dobronte Gabor 260 David Thornton 261 Dan Licon
    262 Ken Maupin 263 Eiji Hirai 264 Jun-Dai Bates
    265 Jeff Windle 266 Jeff Windle 267 Jeff Windle
    268 Jun-Dai Bates 269 Steve Balderrama 270 Wade Craig
    271 Nick Pitfield 272 Dave Plotkin 273 Howard Wiener
    274 Scott Cook 275 Mark Stahl 276 Siegfried Hanisch
    277 Siegfried Hanisch 278 Siegfried Hanisch 279 Jeremy Murray
    280 Jonathan Larkowski 281 Sylvain Jacques 282 Sylvain Jacques
    283 Sylvain Jacques 284 Sylvain Jacques 285 Damian Allis
    286 Mark Ruenes 287 Andrew Schiller 288 Joe Jurczyk
    289 William Barry 290 Matt Mommaerts 291 Mark Stahl
    292 Mark Contrady 293 Steffen Barabasch 294 Steffen Barabasch
    295 Olaf Bode 296 Marcel Berkhout 297 Marcel Berkhout
    298 Raquel Darrian 299 James Runde 300 James Runde
    301 Ryan Redfern 302 Ke Xu 303 John Mastin
    304 John Mastin 305 Mike Bradley 306 Christopher Onjian
    307 Scott Jensen 308 Colin Housing 309 Chris Crowder
    310 Craig Erskine 311 Curt Harman 312 Meghan Middleton
    313 Evelyn Lauer 314 Richard Fraser 315 Mike Costic
    316 Fernando Ma 317 Fernando Ma 318 John D'Alessandro
    319 Mark D'Alessandro 320 Sean Haider 321 Adam Bertapelle
    322 Bafu Vai 323 William Rollo 324 Kevin Johnson
    325 Marko Ollila 326 Bill Engels 327 George Paradis
    328 David Olson 329 Anton Max 330 Philip Jason
    331 Jim Dove 332 Andrew Martin 333 Jacob Caminati
    334 Dan Carlisle 335 Mike Stover 336 Richard Bradley
    337 Pierre Dupree 338 Doug Merrell 339 Oliver Smith
    340 Dana Boisvert 341 Bafu Vai 342 David Klem
    343 Christopher Hailey 344 Jason Crowgey 345 Steve Mandamadiotis
    346 James Grace 347 Andrew Miller 348 Robert Quezada
    349 Chris Oates 350 Keith Aspinall 351 Paul Fini
    352 George Szumski 353 George Szumski 354 Christopher Merlo
    355 Bill Buckley 356 Bill Buckley 357 Eric Mauger
    358 Brandon Padgett 359 Jimmy Hall 360 Andrew Keegan
    361 Mario de Riso 362 Jonah Lin 363 Matt Kuehn
    364 Jodi Lind 365 Shamus McConney 366 Darrell Bishop
    367 Adam Forsyth 368 Adam Forsyth 369 Chris Sandridge
    370 Kaoru Kobayashi 371 Kaoru Kobayashi 372 Kaoru Kobayashi
    373 Kaoru Kobayashi 374 Kaoru Kobayashi 375 Kaoru Kobayashi
    376 Kaoru Kobayashi 377 Kaoru Kobayashi 378 Kaoru Kobayashi
    379 Kaoru Kobayashi 380 Kaoru Kobayashi 381 Kaoru Kobayashi
    382 Kaoru Kobayashi 383 Kaoru Kobayashi 384 Kaoru Kobayashi
    385 Kaoru Kobayashi 386 Kaoru Kobayashi 387 Kaoru Kobayashi
    388 Kaoru Kobayashi 389 Kaoru Kobayashi 390 Kaoru Kobayashi
    391 Charlie Farrell 392 Mats Rydstrom 393 David Neff
    394 Bernd Schweizer 395 Jim Beavens 396 Aaron Castillo
    397 Aaron Castillo 398 Chris Purdy 399 Michael Ibach
    400 Matt Pastor 401 Hairball 402 David Papineau
    403 Al Balkiewicz 404 Al Balkiewicz 405 Philip Jason
    406 Joe Lukas 407 Richard James 408 Michael Van Opstall
    409 Greg Severine 410 Antoni Krasinski 411 Edwin Reed
    412 Keith Aspinall 413 Ed Weiland 414 G. Jack Thetygi
    415 Andy Tillotson 416 Scott Baird 417 Aaron Smith
    418 Jeffrey Furry 419 David Rogers 420 Darren Brown
    421 Darren Brown 422 Everett Painter 423 Kris Claerhout
    424 David Swanston 425 L. Morris 426 Stefan Sutter
    427 Ryan Brown 428 Matthias Murra 429 Matthias Murra
    430 Matthias Murra 431 Johan Ringman 432 Johan Ringman
    433 Johan Ringman 434 Johan Ringman 435 Johan Ringman
    436 Johan Ringman 437 Adam Ensinger 438 Neil Evans
    439 Dave Wruck 440 Jim Golding 441 Christopher Merlo
    442 John Hough 443 David Zagar 444 Jacob Caminati
    445 Paul Fini 446 Trey Allen 447 James Utz
    448 James Utz 449 Steve Jacobsen 450 Richard Karsmakers
    451 Richard Karsmakers 452 Jason Skewes 453 Till Wagner
    454 Till Wagner 455 Till Wagner 456 Till Wagner
    457 Clinton Moyer 458 Brian Cuthbertson 459 Kate Akers
    460 Timothy Shough 461 Stephane Auzilleau 462 Stephane Auzilleau
    463 Stephane Auzilleau 464 Stephane Auzilleau 465 Stephane Auzilleau
    466 Stephane Auzilleau 467 Stephane Auzilleau 468 Stephane Auzilleau
    469 Stephane Auzilleau 470 Stephane Auzilleau 471 Nathaniel Lewis
    472 Adam Edwards
    475 Joe Losby
    481 Stephane Auzilleau 482 Stephane Auzilleau 483 Stephane Auzilleau
    484 Stephane Auzilleau 485 Stephane Auzilleau 486 Stephane Auzilleau
    487 Stephane Auzilleau 488 Stephane Auzilleau 489 Stephane Auzilleau
    490 Stephane Auzilleau 495 Stephane Auzilleau 496 Zach Gemmill
    497 Zach Gemmill 498 Zach Gemmill 499 Zach Gemmill
    500 Melissa Bentheusen

    Prototypes: Sean Brady, Neil Elliott, Graham Borland, a handful of others

    Information: The orders for Kaoru and Stephane are being bought as a group
    order for others in their home country, not a huge order to keep for later.
    So those of you who may have missed out, don't misunderstand and think that
    I was letting people buy out all the copies and keep them from the rest of
    the fans... quite the opposite: Kaoru and Stephane got copies to people who
    didn't have a chance to order it themselves, or when it was too costly.

    When Dream and Today Unite orders received:
    (I'm still trying to get this right. Mention it to me if I biffed.)

    * reserved but not paid. All others are paid.
    THE ONLY RESERVED ORDERS LISTED ARE THOSE FOR GROUPS. OTHERWISE ONLY PAID
    ORDERS ARE LISTED. Sorry I was not clear about this before.

    001 Master 002 Press Master A 003 Press Master B
    004 Mike Bahr 005 Justin Poulter 006 Steve McMaster
    007 David Fox 008 Keith Aspinall 009 John Kotzian
    010 Michael Burstin 011 Bill Wrightson 012 Scott Hansen
    013 Mike Portnoy 014 Mike Portnoy 015 Mike Portnoy
    016 Paul Humm 017 Brandon Beach 018 Howard Weiner
    019 Howard Weiner 020 Brian Kirk 021 Ken Hoili
    022 Dave Delmont 023 David Thornton 024 Steve Soukup
    025 Jason Breitweg 026 Dan Temmesfeld 027 Chris White
    028 Stephan Dobay 029 Andrew Garinger 030 Edwin Million
    031 Patrick Davis 032 Scott Luttringer 033 Joe Cristina
    034 Jeff Stewart 035 Mark Stahl 036 Rebecca Floyd
    037 Wild Dave Kobayashi 038 Stefan Rau 039 Michael Backof
    040 Richard Bradley 041 Jeffrey Smith 042 Richard Karsmakers
    043 Jeff Seifert 044 Stefan Sutter 045 Paul Fini
    046 Jason Skewes 047 Jennifer Sharward 048 Rick Beem
    049 Wilco Barg 050 Partha Mukhopadhyay 051 Elliott Kim
    052 Scott Cook 053 Ed Polzin 054 Uffe Moller
    055 Uffe Moller 056 Brian Anderson 057 Brian Anderson
    058 Eiji Hirai 059 Bill Buckley 060 Bill Buckley
    061 George Bast 062 Mark Contrady 063 Scott Kuennen
    064 Rachel Goldenberg 065 George Bast 066 Bill Huston
    067 Joe Jurczyk 068 Rich Palladino 069 Jenn Albert
    070 Greg Bunker 071 Greg Bunker 072 Sean Haider
    073 [reserved] 074 Clinton Moyer 075 Michael Van Opstall
    076 David Swanston 077 Jim Beavens 078 R. C. Hailey
    079 Brandon Vaughn 080 Andy Tillotson 081 Scott McCammon
    082 Kate Akers 083 Tim Shough 084 Andy Tillotson
    085 Adam Edwards 086 Gary Esterle 087 Robert Quezada
    088 David Edwards 089 Dennis Carmen 090 Eric Mauger
    091 Corey Beasom 092 Martin Schoch 093 Sanjeev Ghai
    094 Kevin Villines 095 Jason MacDonald 096 Robert Castilone
    097 Younis Hilal 098 Bryan Crain 099 Michael Ostrich
    100 Chris Crowder 101 Warren Williams 102 J.R. McCullough
    103 Craig Newmeyer 104 Craig Newmeyer 105 Evan Nelson
    106 Scott Luttringer 107 Scott Luttringer 108 Scott Luttringer
    109 Rob Marquez 110 Eric Marlett 111 Kris Claerhout
    112 George Szumski 113 George Szumski 114 Dave Silva
    115 Colin P. Housing
    123 Brian Cox
    190 Jon Heller
    200 *Stephane Auzilleau 201 *Stephane Auzilleau
    202 *Stephane Auzilleau 203 *Stephane Auzilleau 204 *Stephane Auzilleau
    205 *Stephane Auzilleau 206 *Stephane Auzilleau 207 *Stephane Auzilleau
    208 *Stephane Auzilleau 209 *Stephane Auzilleau 210 *Stephane Auzilleau
    211 *Stephane Auzilleau 212 *Stephane Auzilleau 213 *Evelyn Lauer
    214 *Stephane Auzilleau 215 *Stephane Auzilleau 216 *Stephane Auzilleau
    217 *Stephane Auzilleau 218 *Stephane Auzilleau 219 *Stephane Auzilleau
    220 *Stephane Auzilleau 221 *Kaoru Kobayashi 222 *Kaoru Kobayashi
    223 *Kaoru Kobayashi 224 *Kaoru Kobayashi 225 *Kaoru Kobayashi
    226 *Kaoru Kobayashi 227 *Kaoru Kobayashi 228 *Kaoru Kobayashi
    229 *Kaoru Kobayashi 230 *Kaoru Kobayashi 231 *Kaoru Kobayashi
    232 *Kaoru Kobayashi 233 *Kaoru Kobayashi 234 *Kaoru Kobayashi
    235 *Kaoru Kobayashi 236 *Kaoru Kobayashi 237 *Kaoru Kobayashi
    238 *Kaoru Kobayashi 239 *Kaoru Kobayashi 240 *Kaoru Kobayashi
    303 John Mastin 304 John Mastin 303 *Evelyn Lauer
    333 Kris Claerhout
    420 Darren Brown
    421 Darren Brown 427 Ryan Brown 444 Kris Claerhout
    496 Zach Gemmill
    497 Zach Gemmill 498 Zach Gemmill 499 Zach Gemmill
    500 Riana Karel 555 Kris Claerhout
    666 Mark Metzger 777 Kris Claerhout 888 Kris Claerhout
    999 Kris Claerhout 1000 Kris Claerhout

            If you see something that just isn't true, please let me know. :)

    -Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com
    Magic: The Gathering - Counter a powersunk flash countered force spike.

    "Take a trip on a rocket ship, to where the sea is the sky.
     I know the guy who runs the place and he's outta sight!
     A Flying dutchman... I am... I am... I will be..." - Tori Amos

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    Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 23:52:07 EST
    From: "Rau , Stefan T" <SRAU01@student.ucis.vill.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: ATTENTION RICHARD MEDOS
    Message-ID: <6E8CF71F42@student.ucis.vill.edu>

    This is a message to Richard Medos:
    Your tape is ready for mailing, but I lost your address. Could you
    send it to me again at 191547620@ucis.vill.edu (NOT the address in
    the header of this message, I hardly ever use it). I've tried
    e-mailing you personally, but for some reason my server's not
    getting along very well with your server. Thanks. :)

    To the rest of the 'Jam: Sorry to use up the bandwidth like this, but
    I had to get in touch with this guy....hope you understand....:)

    --Stefan 191547620@ucis.vill.edu

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    Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 22:07:36 -0700
    From: laussade@enet.net (Ktulu)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Ooh! Ooh! I've GOT one!
    Message-ID: <199511210507.WAA19654@maple.enet.net>

    Hey, guess who :-)

            I thought of another concept album:

            Gustav Holst's "The Planets"

            And yes, there are vocals. There is a little choir during Uranus.
            It is truly cool.

    >> Here's a lyrics quiz:
    >> You have to listend carefully for this one...
    >>
    >> "Fucking Mooooooooooooove, Fuck!"
    >>
    >> Lets see if you can guess it.
    >
    >I'm tempted to say it's from Metallica's "One," before the guitar starts
    >up in the beginning, when the soldiers are getting fired upon and
    >screaming to each other.
    >

    Clap, clap, clap, clap.

    You amaze me with your expertise, Bafu :-)
    You are correct once again.

    Here's another:

    "LIIFE???? WHADDYA MEEAN LIFE!!!!! I AIN'T GOT A LIFE!!!!!"

    Easier.
    And some others: (If you can get this, you are either an avid fan of a few
    bands that start with the 13th letter of a certain alphabet, or psychic)

    "And the rate is accelerating."
    "Bass solo, take 1"
    "1, 2...1,2,3,4,5"
    "No shit" or "That's it" (I can't tell)
    And my favorite:
    "When a man lies, he murders some part of the world.
    These are the pale deaths which men miscall their lives.
    All this I cannot bear to witness any longer.
    Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home?"

    These should be easy for Adam and Bafu.
    Adam: On the first four members thing, as soon as I find the book, I'll
    clear it up once and for all. It seems to have been misplaced by someone
    (me).

    Okay. You forced me to do it.
    SONGS I THINK DT SHOULD COVER:
    METALLICA:
    "The Call of Ktulu". They could jam on this forever, and probably make some
    better solos. But James would get bored fast.
    "Orion". Well, same reasons.
    "To Live is to Die". Geez. James is gonna take a REALLY long break.
    "One". HELL YEAH!!!!
    "Fade to Black" I would love to hear this one.
    NOT METALLICA:
    "Mars, the Bringer of War" by Gustav Holst
    "Ice Ice Baby" by Vanilla Ice

    There you have it. (For all you humor impaired Jammers, that last one was a
    joke.)

    SeeYA. dOOds.

    Ben Laussade, who doesn't have any cool aliases like Bafu Vai or Baron Sengir
     
                               
            

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