YTSEJAM digest 1152

From: ytsejam@arastar.com
Date: Wed Nov 22 1995 - 18:42:38 EST

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 1152

    Today's Topics:

      1) RE: Bounced Mails/London
     by P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk
      2) setting people straight
     by Keith Aspinall <kgunner@asu.edu>
      3) Re: Tallica (no DT content)
     by rquezada@monmouth.com
      4) Re: I knew I shouldn't have said it...
     by rquezada@monmouth.com
      5) Kansas (NDTC)
     by GHSRocker@aol.com
      6) Steve Johnson's Tesla list
     by dasanche@students.wisc.edu (Snatch)
      7) Drum Clinic
     by augie@unix.asb.com (augie)
      8) Tallica
     by dasanche@students.wisc.edu (Snatch)
      9) Re: Ryan's whining
     by Darrell Bishop <bishdogg@tamu.edu>
     10) Re: The 'jam sucks and BM, FFF/LLB
     by William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca>
     11) Re: You May Want To Read This!
     by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
     12) Issues to speak upon.
     by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
     13) Re: Quiz? Whaddaya mean Quiz?
     by Fred Block <fblock@shell.monmouth.com>
     14) Re: Quiz? Whaddaya mean Quiz?
     by Fred Block <fblock@shell.monmouth.com>
     15) Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
     by laussade@enet.net (Mr. NoDepthPerception)
     16) OOPS!
     by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
     17) ytsejam t-shirt question (problem)
     by Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>
     18) Alright, dammit!
     by laussade@enet.net (Mr. NoDepthPerception)
     19) Re: Bitching from a bitch
     by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
     20) Crow Trivia
     by "George W. Rittenhouse Jr." <shyboy@microserve.net>
     21) Bafu Vai
     by GHSRocker@aol.com
     22) What happened?
     by GHSRocker@aol.com
     23) Dream Theater tickets
     by Umesh Madhavan <umad@ix.netcom.com>
     24) The Crow (skip it if you only want DT content)
     by Baron Sengir <tsbileci@beta.loyno.edu>
     25) Re: So, you want a God quote???/Response
     by Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
     26) Happy
     by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
     27) Re: Great songs on WDADU/Understated
     by coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
     28) Re: Chuck D kicks a##/response
     by coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
     29) Re: Comments/Ryan and Randy and Me
     by coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )

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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 18:15:37 +0000
    From: P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: RE: Bounced Mails/London
    Message-ID: <"4053*/I=P/S=McLoughlin/OU=bra0108/O=icl/PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS>

    I don't know why the mails have bounced. See if this gets
    through then you can just reply, or maybe our systems can't
    interface. I really love going to London, going again on Friday,
    a sad occasion when we meet outside Freddie's house at the time
    he died. Last year some big guys rolled up in a limo and opened
    a bottle of Champagne to Freddie. Patricia

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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 13:12:09 -0700 (MST)
    From: Keith Aspinall <kgunner@asu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: setting people straight
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951122130901.13502A-100000@general5.asu.edu>

    On Wed, 22 Nov 1995, Jeremy Lakatos wrote:
    > > > "For the first time in a long time everything was right in
    > > > my world. Then I woke up."
    > >
    > > It's from The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun. Isn't it in the FAQ? I think
    > > it's from a documentary on prisons. Something a prisoner said.

    > How could I forget that? I knew it had to be from a DT song, but just
    > couldn't conceive of which one.
     
    nononononononononononononono. its the opening passage to A Fortune in
    Lies. has nothing to do with TOWHtStS.

    Keith

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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 15:12:13 +0000
    From: rquezada@monmouth.com
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: Tallica (no DT content)
    Message-ID: <199511222013.PAA29721@shell.monmouth.com>

    > >"And the rate is accelerating."
    > Sorry.. I don't know :(
    Megadeth from "Countdown to Extinction" -- title track

    > "We fucked up.. in one place"
    >
    > HINT: Yes, it's Metallica.
    > HINT 2: Lars says it (I think).
    Blitzkrieg!!!! off of the re-released Kill-em-All and Creeping Death
    single (12", I believe). Of course, they took it off KEA after the Black
    album was released.

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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 15:17:22 +0000
    From: rquezada@monmouth.com
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: I knew I shouldn't have said it...
    Message-ID: <199511222018.PAA29810@shell.monmouth.com>

    > I know that their music has influenced many bands including my beloved DT
    > (yes, I'm WELL aware of all of the DT connections) and I guess that for
    > the 60's, their music may well have been groundbreaking, but for me,
    > their music is hmmm.... how can I say this... silly? imature? plain?
    > drab? I can't quite put it into words. I would say trite but I don't know
    > how to spell it. :) Wasn't most of it drug-induced anyway? I know DT has
    > some wacky lyrics but THEY never wrote about walrus' and the eggman. (yet)

    Maybe if you play DT's songs backwards........ "James is the
    walrus....." :)

    rq

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    Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 17:35:20 -0500
    From: GHSRocker@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Kansas (NDTC)
    Message-ID: <951121173520_113099154@emout04.mail.aol.com>

    Hey Ohio jammer's. Did anyone catch the Kansas show last Friday, Nov. 17?
     They played at a place called "The Machine" in Massillon. Let us know if
    you did and how the show was. Talk to you later, George.

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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 14:44:44 -0600
    From: dasanche@students.wisc.edu (Snatch)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Steve Johnson's Tesla list
    Message-ID: <199511222044.OAB62846@audumla.students.wisc.edu>

    Steve,

    Just thought I'd help ya out on this one. The missing CD is Psychotic Supper.

    Damion

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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 14:12:46 -0400
    From: augie@unix.asb.com (augie)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Drum Clinic
    Message-ID: <v01530500acd91248fedc@[165.254.128.52]>

    I don't have much time, so I'll keep this post rather short. Last night I
    went to Mike Portnoy's drum clinic in White Plains. IT was awesome. It
    was mostly a question and answer appearance. People from the crowd asked
    Portnoy a broad range of questions ranging from how he plays certain parts
    of songs to where he thinks of the best beats. Some of his answers were
    odd. Did you all know that Portnoy thinks of his best beats on the toilet!
    He wasn't kidding when he told the crowd of around 200+ that. The way he
    described the way he played different songs was by playing a specific part
    first. This part was a part someone asked from the audience. Then he did
    it slower and explaining what speed it is. Most of his songs are in odd
    speeds. He did such a great job doing it because I didn't know a thing
    about reading or listening to music. Now I have an idea from his
    explaination. Portnoy also played an instrumental to start of the clinic,
    the middle part of Metropolois in the middle of the clinic, and the entire
    ErotoMania for us to close it. All in all the clinic was awesome.

    Andrew Keegan a fellow jammer that I went with to the show asked Portnoy
    the question about moshing. Now to set everything straight, Portnoy
    believes that Moshing should be done when it's appropriate. He is totally
    against Moshing at useless times such as during songs like Wait for Sleep.
    But in general Portnoy is in favor of moshing.

    There is so much that I can say about this clinic, but I don't have enough
    time. Hopefully someone else who went can inform you guys with the rest.

    ******************************ATTENTION MIKE BAHR*******************************

    This is a direct request from Mr. Portnoy himself. HE said that the person
    making the covers for the albums you make should make the designs at a
    lighter color, so it would be easier for him to sign them.
    ________________________________________________________________________________

    Heath Augustover

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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 14:55:50 -0600
    From: dasanche@students.wisc.edu (Snatch)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Tallica
    Message-ID: <199511222055.OAA63377@audumla.students.wisc.edu>

    "We fucked up...in one place."
    I think Lars says that on Garage Days ReRevisited. I can't remember what
    song though.

    Damion

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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 95 15:18:14 -0500
    From: Darrell Bishop <bishdogg@tamu.edu>
    To: "ytsejam@arastar.com" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Re: Ryan's whining
    Message-ID: <199511222118.PAA10148@mail.tamu.edu>

    -- [ From: Darrell Bishop * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --

    Well, I finally got off my lurker butt and posted:

    Ryan:
    wah wah wah...whine whine whine...
    bet Bafu has some fun w/you in the next Ytse & the Jam!
    --Bishdogg

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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 15:06:20 -0700 (MST)
    From: William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: The 'jam sucks and BM, FFF/LLB
    Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951122150235.27523B-100000@casual1>

    'jammers,

    Thanks to the two posters who said the list sucks and the members of
    Blind Melon can die, fuck you etc...I laughed out loud during those posts
    and take no offence. I'll support you guys through all the flames...

    I noticed that Elton John's covers were disliked by many and had to
    comment that I loved these 2 covers. Mainly it's the guitar melodies
    over the piano backing that is very expressive to me. And I don't own an
    Elton John CD's!

    Also, how many people have a bootleg of James singing Voices. The one I
    have is James LaBrie at his absolute worst. Did he have a cold or
    something?!?

    Will

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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 17:20:34 -0500 (EST)
    From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Re: You May Want To Read This!
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9511221735.A4698-0100000@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu>

    Give the d00d a round of applause!!! For probably the last 4-6 monthZ
    I've gone through my Ytse-mail in a matter of secondZ because of all the
    Bullshit that'Z been going through, and the serious repatition in OLD
    threadZ. I'm not going to go so far as to say the list is shit, cause All
    the original people who made me fall in love with this list are still out
    there, and still posting the same c00l stuff that they alwayZ have. I
    think the lack of better tingZ to do, along with the immaturity of a LOT
    of people has caused the quality of the list to drop emmensly in the past
    couple of monthZ...but it'Z not cause we're a bunch of moronZ or
    anything...it'Z because we've forgotten what our main purpose is here.
    So...since I'm a nice guy...YTSEJAM is for Dream Theater EnthusiastZ who
    want to talk about Dream Theater, and related bandZ...and it'Z AlwayZ
    been WAY more than c00l to try and reccomend other bandZ who we might
    think another DT fan might be intereted in. This one aspect alone has
    made for a LOT of st00pid flame warZ, and has created a lot of tension on
    here. So before I decide to start treating the lame people of this list
    (and it Totally painZ me to think any one of you people might be lame!!!)
    like I do lame people on IRC (hehe just ask Anyone who'Z pissed me off on
    #Ytsejam) by E-mail bombing them from anonymous accountZ or
    something...PUH-LeeZe use g00d judgement when it comeZ to the list. If
    you think a person on here SuX...send THEM E-mail...not the entire list.
    If you think a person is false advertising by reccomending a band that ou
    thnk SuX...don't just say "You suck cause you like that band" and dumb
    shit like that, it only makeZ people lose respect for you, and your
    ability to be an open-minded individual...instead, give us reasonZ why
    you aren't fond of that band, and help us sae some money! We didn't get
    this far by being a bunch of pissy people who flame the shit out of
    eachother whenever we disagreed with someone...we got this far by being a
    Damn Tight unit of people with the same goal...to celebrate a band who'Z
    Talent, and excellent musicianship is FAR beyond anything a personZ ear'Z
    can possibly hear...and to help them achieve musical goalZ, and inspire
    them to be THE BEST that they can be. The guyZ of the band have been
    impressed by us because of our extensive knowledge of the band, our
    ability to be open-minded, and prolly the fact that about 80% of us are
    musician'Z...and that the few who aren't musicianZ are brilliant enough
    to recognize g00d music when they hear it. You people are like family to
    me, and to a TON of the people on here, and I'm Damn proud to be a part
    of you...The YTSEJAM Is NOT hell...it'Z a group of people striving for
    musical perfection, and we can Easily make it that...if we just unite,
    put our grudgeZ aside, and help eachother be better Dream Theater
    EnthusiastZ! O.k. hehe lecture over...now letZ have some fun...and
    remember to "Find all you need in your mind." Also...check out #Ytsejam
    on Global IRC (try irc.colorado.edu or irc.epix.net for best resultZ) and
    go meet other ytsejammerZ!!! (I'll give away free scriptZ to anyone who
    can beat me in a IRC war...hehe) Take care all!!!!!

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats:
    If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) (i.e.
    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major would have
    4 sharps.
    StatisticZ show that if a person is born with Perfect Pitch, chances are
    they will grow up to be a famous...Baseball Player!!! :)

    "Just Lighten up and listen to the Music" -Kevin Moore (inside joke)

                                    emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu

                    Eric Moegling: afn22909@freenet.ufl.edu

                                    emoeglin@mail.coin.missouri.edu

    NEW HOMEPAGE!!!!
    http://www.wezl.org/NuGgeTMaN

    fOr MoRE nFo AboUT mE fIngEr: emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu
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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 15:23:33 -0700 (MST)
    From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Issues to speak upon.
    Message-ID: <199511222223.PAA11124@bud.indirect.com>

            OK, now I have a lot of weight to get off my chest.

            Ryan, I saw your post about how the Ytsejam has gone to hell.
    Well, in all honesty, I disagree... EXCEPT for the last few Jams. I can't
    say I was too thrilled with the moshing discussion myself. But! Saying it
    was better last year is simply wrong. During that dead summer while we
    waited for Awake, the Ytsejam existed in such a degenerate state that I
    unsubscribed for the only time in history, only to join back up a few
    weeks before the album came out. We had NOTHING to talk about. Now at
    least we have some semi-worthy topics.

            Jason Hartman and Mike Backof have a GREAT idea with that
    covers-compilation tape project! I sure plan on buying a copy. I hope you
    guys and girls will support their efforts in this as wonderfully as
    you've always supported mine. I have sort of a first-hand knowledge of
    how the costs line up for this sort of thing, and CDs are cheaper than
    cassettes to make, but at the same time they don't have to rent equipment
    or pay studio time, so I would place the price point at $15, with
    addition shipping only if they're out of country. However they may have a
    great wholesale connection I don't know about. If so, more power to 'em.

            Someone asked about the Metallica album themes... like Rush,
    Metallica has had coherent themes for their albums, but the first three
    weren't as defined and polished as AJFA was. Ride The Lightning was about
    death, Master of Puppets was about manipulation, AFJA was about
    inequality/injustice, and the black album lacked a theme.

            As to the long songs poll... the winners are pretty much
    determined now... there's no possible chance any other song will catch
    the front runners, going by the numbers, so it'll be interesting only to
    see who brings up the rear. And for write-in votes... yes, I am scoring
    all of them. Then again, speaking of the front runners... what did I
    expect... look where we ARE. The DREAM THEATER list. :) (though the
    number 1 is going to shock and dismay you.)

            Same with albums... one album has over 150 more points over it's
    nearest competitors, so it's just a matter of what #2-N turn out to be. I
    might as well declare a winner now so nobody wastes further votes on
    it... Operation Mindcrime. :)

            On to other things. For no real reason, a random 50 or so copies
    of WDATU shipped will have free sealed booster packs of Magic: The Gathering
    cards enclosed. If you choose to do nothing with them, oh well, I
    guess that's the way it is. I would hope you'll give this game a try,
    however. It's deep and it appeals to the kind of intelligence that can
    also appreciate complex progressive rock. The packs aren't playable by
    themselves, but they make a nice "first look" at things. For those of you
    who already _play_ the game, enjoy your free pack of Fallen Empires.
    ("knowing" grin) If you decide to try it, grab a starter deck at your
    local Tower Records or gaming/comic/hobby shop and you can include the
    free cards I gave you right away into your play deck.

            Not a whole lot more to say just now, so I want to wish every one
    of you a safe and happy Thanksgiving weekend... go Chiefs (I hate Dallas,
    how about them Niners!!), go Arizona State Sun Devils (sorry Arizona
    Wildcats, but this year it's ours), eat heavily of thy food and enjoy it,
    and I won't be able to read mail until Sunday or so, so understand why
    there are no replies to anything you send, until then. :)

    Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com

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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 18:01:50 -0500 (EST)
    From: Fred Block <fblock@shell.monmouth.com>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Re: Quiz? Whaddaya mean Quiz?
    Message-ID: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.951122180033.6463A-100000@shell.monmouth.com>

    I know it is on a Megadeth Album.....Countdown to Extinction Album?
    Lyrics go like.."No time for questions...No time for games..start kickin
    ass.." Right? :)

    On Wed, 22 Nov 1995, Andrew Schiller wrote:

    > >Here's another:
    >
    > >"LIIFE???? WHADDYA MEEAN LIFE!!!!! I AIN'T GOT A LIFE!!!!!"
    >
    >

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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 18:02:31 -0500 (EST)
    From: Fred Block <fblock@shell.monmouth.com>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Re: Quiz? Whaddaya mean Quiz?
    Message-ID: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.951122180200.6463B-100000@shell.monmouth.com>

    Boy..Your soul better belong to Jesus....Cause your ASS belongs to
    me!!...Hahahahaha

    On Wed, 22 Nov 1995, Andrew Schiller wrote:

    > >Here's another:
    >
    > >"LIIFE???? WHADDYA MEEAN LIFE!!!!! I AIN'T GOT A LIFE!!!!!"
    >
    >

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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 16:18:22 -0700
    From: laussade@enet.net (Mr. NoDepthPerception)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
    Message-ID: <199511222318.QAA24671@maple.enet.net>

    Greetings, oh Jamming ones.

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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 95 18:50:46 EST
    From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: OOPS!
    Message-ID: <9511222350.AA00390@ici.net>

    >>"Bass solo, take 1"
    >
    >Metallica "Anesthesia/Pulling Teeth" on RtL

    Of course I meant on "Kill 'Em All". Brain Fart. Won't happen again. :)

      _________________________________________________________________________
     /_________________Pat Sullivan__psull@ici.net_____________________________\
    ||She turned for one last look []Poison, power. Driven by fury. ||
    ||She looked me in the eye []Digital dictator, blackened expropriator. ||
    ||I said "I love you.... []Deliver us from evil, save the people. ||
    ||...goodbye." []Contagion of hatred must be eliminated. ||
    ||-DT / "A Change of Seasons" []-Vicious Rumors / "Savior From Anger" ||
     \_____________________________[]__________________________________________/

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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 16:49:48 -0800 (PST)
    From: Tymoteusz Altman <altman@sfu.ca>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: ytsejam t-shirt question (problem)
    Message-ID: <199511230049.AAA01771@fraser.sfu.ca>

    i got my t-shirt way back when they first came up, but i never asked this.
    but now i'm wondering again.
    the t-shirt is fabulous except for one thing...it gets really wrinkled, really
    quickly... after i wash it and dtry it it's already wrinkled...this never
    happens to my other t-shirts and i must have 30 concert t-shirts.

    anyone else have this problem? just wondering :)

    tim

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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 18:50:13 -0700
    From: laussade@enet.net (Mr. NoDepthPerception)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Alright, dammit!
    Message-ID: <199511230150.SAA28288@maple.enet.net>

    Okay,
            Who was being me on IRC? I tried to get ON last NIGHT, but it said
    NICKNAME LAUSSADE ALREADY IN USE. And I couldn't get connected and it
    pissed me off.

               Ben Laussade, aka MonkeyBoy, aka Ktulu, aka Praxxix, aka God, aka
    Satan, aka offensive, aka awesome drummer, aka Alias Boy, aka yoBsdrawkcaB,
    aka No more aka's.
                               
            

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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 17:36:14 -0500 (EST)
    From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Re: Bitching from a bitch
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9511221721.A8326-0100000@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu>

    Go Heather!!!!!! I love ya already hon!!!! Women are the epitome of
    perfection, and they deserve only THE MOST respect from us men...behind
    EVERY successful man, was a loving Mother who at one point had a little
    runt they hadta feed and change and stuff...and any guy who basheZ women
    deserveZ a g00d Flame from the memberZ of the Ytse (Private E-mail of
    course). Cudos to Heather and any other woman who is more than willing to
    stand up for their rightZ!!! *NuGgeTMaN standZ and yellZ "Encore"*

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats:
    If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) (i.e.
    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major would have
    4 sharps.
    StatisticZ show that if a person is born with Perfect Pitch, chances are
    they will grow up to be a famous...Baseball Player!!! :)

    "Just Lighten up and listen to the Music" -Kevin Moore (inside joke)

                                    emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu

                    Eric Moegling: afn22909@freenet.ufl.edu

                                    emoeglin@mail.coin.missouri.edu

    NEW HOMEPAGE!!!!
    http://www.wezl.org/NuGgeTMaN

    fOr MoRE nFo AboUT mE fIngEr: emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu
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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 22:08:55 -0500
    From: "George W. Rittenhouse Jr." <shyboy@microserve.net>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Crow Trivia
    Message-ID: <199511230308.WAA20515@mail.Microserve.Net>

    >My guess is the REAL scene where Eric Draven dies. The way I
    >understood it, he was originally supposed to get shot in a store.
    >That's the scene were he was really shot and died. The producers
    >thought it would be quite uncool to use that footage so they reshot a
    >new death. If you pay attention, you'll notice they never show his
    >face in the death scene. Not ever, until he falls out of the window.
    >And then it is most definately a still picture superemposed on a
    >falling ChromaKey.
    >
    >If anyone else has any Crow trivia, please email it to me, don't send
    >it to the list.
    >
    >Thanks
    >Todd

    Well I know you said to tell you through E-mail but your wrong. <Dont want
    everyone thinking the wrong thing> Just to clear the death thing up it
    happend during the scene where they are rapeing his GF and throw him out the
    window. He was suppose to walk in with a bag of food and get shot. He
    walked in and when they shot him a casing shot out with the force enough to
    go through his chest.

       The triva ? answer was the fight between him and funboy becuse he help a
    mortal. also missing is the skull cowboy cut from every scene of the movie.

      By the way I got out my copy of WDADU last night with all the talk about it.
    I still like it and I even like LFaGA. But I guess I just like all of it.

    ========================================================================
                            <shyboy@microserve.net>
       If life is like a bowl of cherries why do I keep getting the pit
    ========================================================================

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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 15:06:23 -0500
    From: GHSRocker@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Bafu Vai
    Message-ID: <951122150623_31006211@emout05.mail.aol.com>

         This is a short letter to all the 'jammer's letting you know that I did
    indeed receive an e-mail from Bafu Vai. I made a harsh statement about him
    on the 'jam about his not replying to his e-mail and I am now retracting said
    statement. He really does reply to his e-mail, contrary to my belief's.
         So, Steve, I apologize. I was wrong.
         Now, let's get back to having fun on the 'jam. Talk to all of you
    later, George.

    FYINS - Dink (1994)

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    Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 16:00:04 -0500
    From: GHSRocker@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: What happened?
    Message-ID: <951120160003_111892185@emout04.mail.aol.com>

    I used to get several 'jams a day. I haven't gotten one since Saturday. The
    last one I got was #1141. What has happened?
    Keep 'em coming, George.

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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 23:31:23 -0500
    From: Umesh Madhavan <umad@ix.netcom.com>
    To: "'ytsejam@arastar.com'" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Dream Theater tickets
    Message-ID: <01BAB932.A3A4CD60@ix-ron-ny4-12.ix.netcom.com>

    Attn: Long Island/NYC Jammers

    Limited DT tickets available for December 28 @ Malibu (516) 432-1600
    Call Ticketmaster (516) 888-9000 ~$12 per ticket.

    Long Live DT!!!

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    Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 02:46:17 +0000 (GMT)
    From: Baron Sengir <tsbileci@beta.loyno.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: The Crow (skip it if you only want DT content)
    Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.951123023311.20943C-100000@beta.loyno.edu>

    > Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 01:19:28 -0500
    > From: "George W. Rittenhouse Jr." <shyboy@microserve.net>
    > Subject: The Crow!
    >
    > > _The Crow_...this is the scene where the late Mr. Draven is telling
    > >Delia's mother -- as he squeezes the recently injected heroin out of her body
    > >-- that she must pay more attention to her daughter. Right after this he does
    > >a real doozy on FunBoy by injecting all of his needles of heroin into his
    > >chest. Cool.
    > > BTW, if you haven't seen _The Crow_, go see it. It is awesome. The
    > >lighting is great, the F/X aren't too shabby, and the score by Graeme Revell is
    > >captivating.
    > >
    >
    > By the way can you tell us the part that they cut out from that scene
    > <MovieTrivia>>>>>>>>>>>

    Yep, though this is starting to get WAY off track as far as the subject
    of the list is concerned. Funboy comes to and attacks Eric. He slashes
    Eric with the razor that Darla had and Eric doesn't heal. This is why
    Eric is wearing the black tape later in the movie.

    Paul
    Baron "No DT content in this one" Sengir

     

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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 23:39:39 -0500 (EST)
    From: Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Re: So, you want a God quote???/Response
    Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951122233859.8620B-100000@oak.liii.com>

    On Wed, 22 Nov 1995, Michael Coghlan wrote:

    > Zach wrote:
    > >
    > >"For God so loved the world, that he sent
    > >his only begotten Son, that whoever should
    > >believe in him, will not die, but instead
    > >have eternal life."
    > >
    > >Anyone want to guess where *that* one comes
    > >from? Bafu, Ben... Bueller??? (heh heh heh heh)
    > >
    > >There's thousands more from the same source.
    > >Did I offend anyone? Hopefully. (Take a hint
    > >and stop this thread).
    >
    > I think we're getting somewhere now Zach. How about John 3:16?
    >

    Is that Petrucci or Myung?

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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 22:44:02 -0500
    From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Happy
    Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.15.11.22.-10.44.2.19930.19309@clubmet.metrobbs.com>

           Just like everyone else will do...

                                   HAPPY THANKSGIVING

    At least it is not about blind mellon.

    grin

    see ya
    http://WWW.DREAMT.ORG

    todd

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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 21:27:45 -0800
    From: coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: Great songs on WDADU/Understated
    Message-ID: <199511230527.VAA09643@ix10.ix.netcom.com>

    Someone Else and jbeavens wrote:

    >>Wow! Seems like most people need to go back and really give WDaDU a good
    >>listen. I think people are shadowing the whole album behind Charlie's
    >>vocals........

    WDADU was the 2nd CD I bought by DT I&W being the first. I was taken aback
    by Charlie's vocals at first, but after giving a couple more listens I
    thought "This is genuine DT". Charlie's got a good voice and I have to
    agree with the other person who said "maybe your used to hearing James
    voice....". I thought the same thing myself about myself and that's why I
    listened to it some more and gave it my stamp of approval.

    >>Kevin is especially >>showcased on this album.

    Understated; Kevin is brilliant on this CD!

    >Amen! (oh no, now I've started another religious debate :p).

    Amen is ok with me, do you know what it means? No debate here, BTW I'm the
    debater or the debatee depending on your perspective.

    >LFaGA is such a stark portrayal of that one woman in every man's past that
    >not only stabbed him in the back, but twisted the knife several revolutions
    >and poured five pounds of salt on the wound (all metaphorically speaking
    >of course 8^). It is obvious that Mr. Moore had a very unhappy ending to
    >a relationship at some point in his life.

    A very high-energy track, tight and you need to listen to it at least 4 or 5
    times before you catch the feel, that's how long it took me.

    TKH - the most dynamic song on the CD IMO. James "can't touch that", thats'
    Charlies song vocally speaking :).

    TOWHTSTS - Mike tears it up with his mathmatically written drum time again.
    I'm still trying to learn the into.

    >Anyway, getting back to the original post, do yourself a favor and
    >sit down and really listen to WDADU! It really is an amazing album,
    >not to mention a great display of how good Kevin Moore really is...

    Kudos on that!

    Give Thanks for all you have Happy Thanksgiving All God Bless,

    Michael C.

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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 21:48:57 -0800
    From: coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: Chuck D kicks a##/response
    Message-ID: <199511230548.VAA11082@ix10.ix.netcom.com>

    You wrote:
    >
    >I concur -- Charlie D. kicks James lame Canadian ass!!
    >
    >Charlie Roolz -- James Droolz!
    >
    >Long Live the music DT did with CD!!!

    Well I'm a Charlie fan but I wouldn't go that far. James can SING man!

    Michael C.

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    Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 22:08:35 -0800
    From: coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: Comments/Ryan and Randy and Me
    Message-ID: <199511230608.WAA06462@ix7.ix.netcom.com>

    Randy A. wrote:
    >
    >Ryan J Benedict,
    >
    > Hey take your own advice pal. Your huge critique of the Jam just
    >made it a whole lot better huh. Hardly! If you don't like whats being
    >said skip over the crap. It isn't that hard! Come on now use some common
    >sense! If you can't manage to do that just relive your Golden days and
    >reread old Jams, or else get the heck out of here.

    > Randy Aquino

    Go Randy Go!! Ryan you're way out of line. I'll write you personally
    later, you can always delete it.

    God Bless,

    Michael C.

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