YTSEJAM Digest 1159
Today's Topics:
1) Sorry for the non-DT stuff....
by Shaggy <shaggy@phish.nether.net>
2) Re: More lyric quizzes
by "Jonathan Byrne" <RRI02@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU>
3) JM's bass???
by sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
4) AD recorded?
by haiders@kenyon.edu
5) RE: Messed up new CD's
by Mitchell Adam Edwards <maedwar@students.uiuc.edu>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1157
by Domenico Italo Composto <dcompost@indiana.edu>
7) Terry Bozzio
by Frank Marotta <fmarot01@barney.poly.edu>
8) Re: Next Album
by Jeremy Lakatos <jeremy@grove.ufl.EDU>
9) The Crow (once again)
by Jaime Kimpton <jaimekimpton@vwc.edu>
10) Lyrics....
by LESNIEBD@udmercy.edu
11) RE:JM'S Bass
by "Devine, Christopher" <cdevin@constar.com>
12) (U)General stuff
by "Steven Johnson, P" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
13) Re: new thread
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
14) stupid posts to the 'jam
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
15) Progressive?
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
16) Religion. NDTC
by Kyle Mallett <krm95g@timon.acu.edu>
17) Magna Carta
by "Kevin G. Villines" <kvillin@comp.uark.edu>
18) Re: SDV Samples
by Leon Verrall <lmv1000@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
19) Malibu Show on the 28th
by fbenenat@testa.com
20) WWW
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
21) D/FW internet providers
by "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tam2000.tamu.edu>
22) YTSECON INTERVIEW?
by sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
23) Dane Sonnier (formerly of galactic cowboys) news
by "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tam2000.tamu.edu>
24) SUBCONSCIOUS liner notes still available ;-)
by sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
25) Voice(s) problems, old Afterlife lyrics?
by sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 10:30:37 -0500 (EST)
From: Shaggy <shaggy@phish.nether.net>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Sorry for the non-DT stuff....
Message-ID: <199511271530.KAA15195@phish.nether.net>
Sorry for posting this, but I lost the correct format to subscribe...
Could (whoever) :) please remove the following addresses from the JAM:
giant@wam.umd.edu
chris_mahaffey@ccmail.odedodea.edu
and add this address:
Thanks alot...sorry for the non-DT content.... :)
Chris
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 12:52:26 -0500 (EST)
From: "Jonathan Byrne" <RRI02@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU>
To: "YtseJam" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: More lyric quizzes
Message-ID: <9511271757.AA20366@anthor.arastar.com>
On 11/26/95 at 19:45:45 Jeremy Lakatos said:
>Well, since I finally got a correct response, for my Thought Industry
>question, I'll continue in that Drama-like song vein:
>2. (a bit harder):
>"If you are here seeking a future, the Futures Department has been temporarily
>shut down. Have a nice life."
For some reason, this reminds me of something out of "Hitchiker's Guide to the
Galaxy,", but I suppose that's not it.
>3. (probably the hardest, as we drop further back into the mix):
>"...you care where I am? ... hate everybody. You hate all of my friends."
This one I know! This is the little spoken part at the beginning of
"Runaway" from _Brave_, by Marillion.
I think. :)
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"Well, thanks to our kindness and skill Jonathan Byrne
You'll have no trouble until West Virginia University
You catch your breath rri02@wvnvm.wvnet.edu
And the nurse will present you the bill!"
-Tony Banks and Steve Hackett, "Entangled", Genesis
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 18:57:20 +0100 (MEZ)
From: sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam - the Dream Theater mailing list)
Subject: JM's bass???
Message-ID: <9511271757.AA15376@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de>
Hello!
To Damon M. Fibraio:
Damon? You really LIKE the bass sound on WDADU? Ok, it fitted somehow, but
I never liked this crack when he hits a string. I remember I was wondering
what this rhythmic crack in "Ytse Jam" was before I discovered that it was the
bass.
I still think Awake has the best bass sound of all studio albums. With his
six string bass he makes a perfect low frequency base. Yes, you can't hear it
so clearly when you don't focus on it, but that fits Johns character perfectly!
He's a team player, it works only when he plays with the band.
Hell, I love that sound, as much as you love the sound on the first album. I
bought a better car hifi and built better speakers just to hear this killing
bass at the end of The Mirror better!
Steffen
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:25:36 EST
From: haiders@kenyon.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: AD recorded?
Message-ID: <0099A054.4CB29780.33@kenyon.edu>
Hello--
Got a question here: Where and when was AD recorded, and why? This
has probably been discussed, but I must have missed it. It seems they must
have been between keyboardists. Was this a live show and this is a soundboard,
or was it studio? Any info?
Also, if anyone finds out what John P. names his kids, let us know!!
Sean Haider
bassist, INTROSPECTION
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:43:10 -0600
From: Mitchell Adam Edwards <maedwar@students.uiuc.edu>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: RE: Messed up new CD's
Message-ID: <01BABCAC.C4D1F1C0@far0626.urh.uiuc.edu>
Hey, folks.
In Jam 1157, someone said that they bought the new AIC CD and it was =
screwed up right out of the package. I had the same thing happen to me =
with a Korn CD. There was this bubble lookin' thang on the CD. I don't =
know how it got there, but the local merchant seemed happy enough to get =
me a new one.
Since I'm new to posting, I better go ahead and give all of my faves =
and non-faves. Metropolis is my favorite off of I&W and Scarred and SDV =
are favorites on Awake. I don't really care much for WDADU due to =
Charlie D. and the really poor production. I think Status Seeker is the =
worst song they have. The lyrics and music just feel a little generic. =
(I'll probably get a vicious flame about this, but I know someone out =
there agrees.)
Finally, I'm looking for the Subcon CD or tape. If anyone has it and =
would like to sell, e-mail me and we'll set something up. Name a price.
Off to calculus. Have a good one.
AMF
a
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:20:54 -0500 (EST)
From: Domenico Italo Composto <dcompost@indiana.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1157
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.951127112015.14584C-100000@othello.ucs.indiana.edu>
Made a mistake excuse this letter
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:48:00 -0500 (EST)
From: Frank Marotta <fmarot01@barney.poly.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Terry Bozzio
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951127113154.3134C-100000@barney>
> BTW Mike Portnoy has quoted Terry Bozzio as one of his great influences. Now,
> from the one album I have heard Terry on (as drummer)--Sheik Yerbouti--the
> drumming is not amazing at all. I couldn't find what made him such an
> acclaimed drummer.
>
> Which of TB's albums showcase this amazing, Portnoy influencing, drumming?
>
You could check out Steve Vai's "Sex and Religion". Terry does some
pretty cool stuff on there, but if you really want so hear him wail, the
best thing to do would be to check out any one of his instructional
videos, or any of the tapes of his clinics. The guy is absolutely a
monster! He is one of the scariest drummers in the world. Have you ever
seen a picture of his kit? He uses EVERY instrument he has. He has 3
(yes three) bass drums which are tuned differently from eachother.
Definitely worth cheking out.
FRANK
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:53:06 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeremy Lakatos <jeremy@grove.ufl.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Next Album
Message-ID: <199511271653.LAA13108@cypress.grove.ufl.edu>
> From: "Dr. Teeth" <GLYDE@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
> Subject: New Thread! Good God!!!
> Our beloved DT is coming out with a completely new album this July.
> (This is ALL the info I have on it so far, so don't ask...)
>
> What would you like to hear on it?
>
> Idea #3: WDADU and I&W are decidedly less "Heavy" than Awake and ACoS. Though
> ACoS is slightly less heavy than Awake. So where should this heaviness go on
> their next album? Hmmm. Personally I like the heavy stuff, but I can see a
I'd say less heavy. Though, one death metal song might be interesting...
> Idea #7: Of course, they'd need to include their token insturmental song as
> well as their usual 12 minute epic. I mean, this is Dream Theater we're
> talking about isn't it??? ;)
Heck, why not have a few instrumentals and maybe two epics? And maybe an
instrumental epic as well?
> Idea #8: Oooh! Harmonies! In ACoS, there are some places in the song where
> James overdubs his voice (that is his voice, right?) and produces some really
> powerful harmonies! The one Achilles Heel of DT, I think, is the vocals. I
> personally love James's voice, but you have to admit that a LOT of people don't
> like DT because of him. *Sigh* Sad but true. I'm not suggesting they dump
> him or anything. Maybe just more vocal harmonies. I Looooooove harmonies and
> DT doesn't use enough of them in my opinion...
>
Agreed. I love harmonies, and I don't really love James's voice (though
I like it okay).
But they hardly ever have harmonies. Maybe they need a bit of help. They
should enlist the help of the Wilde Silas Mass Choir (featuring the
Galactic Cowboys). Maybe Sam Taylor could produce the album.
Anyway, here're the things I want to see. Not that it will matter, since
the band won't see this, and even if they do...you know what they say
about committees...
1) Fusion. Jazz. Swing it, baby. I'd like to see this album as a jazz/fusion
one. They've had touches of it, but can they go all the way? My challenge.
2) More instrumentation. I like the band and all, but it'd be so neat with
a cello in a song, and a couple saxes in another, a flute/cornet duet
in another. Neat stuff for neat stuff's sake.
3) Special guest musicians. With new fangled instrumentation, you need
people to play those instruments, and they should use the chance to
enlist the aid of well-known prog guys. It'd help sell the album, as
well. Throw in a few keyboard duels with famous keyboard guys, that'd
kick butt.
4) Chapman Stick or Warr Guitar. While I'm on an instrument kick, the
touchstyle guitar is really neat. Sure, John can tap (either one...),
but try this.
5) A mellotron. (: It's not progressive unless you have a mellotron. (:
6) Bill Bruford. (: See number 5.
-- Know Inform? I need a programmer for 10% of an IF game. PLEASE help.
jeremy@grove.ufl.edu
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 12:29:02 GMT+0000
From: Jaime Kimpton <jaimekimpton@vwc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: The Crow (once again)
Message-ID: <m0tK7N2-0000S2C@donews.cts.com>
Rain King wrote:
<< A few weeks later, they needed another gun, so the prop manager got the
one from his trunk, not realizing that it had not been used since before the
live ammo was banned. Thinking it was safe, he *did not* check the barrel of
the gun. When it was fired at Brandon Lee with a full blank, the bullet was
dislodged from the barrel and hit him with the same force of a regular round. >>
Coincidentally, I was channel-cruising last night and saw the same Unsolved
Mysteries episode. You were close: what they said was that one of the blank
bullets still had a live primer (the metal circle in the back of the bullet;
when the hammer hits the primer, it ignites the gunpowder between the primer
and the lead tip, which then causes the tip to explode out of the casing),
and when the gun was test-fired, the lead cap got lodged in the barrel of
the gun, and as you said - no one checked it.
Ammunition Theory 101. <G>
Jaime the Dragon, late for class... whoops!
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:27:28 -0500
From: LESNIEBD@udmercy.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Lyrics....
Message-ID: <s0b9af8b.085@udmercy.edu>
Okay, here's one that no one should get. Probably cuz I'm the only
one I know that listens to these guys.
"When the time has come to pay what you owe
You know I'll be collecting on your body and soul
And when we've found we've taken everything that you own
It's like a hit squad, DAMN!"
Good luck, and someone PLEASE respond....I feel like I'm bein ignored
cuz no one has responded to any of my previous postings (excluding
Brandon...) buh bye...
Soup
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 13:50:00 PST
From: "Devine, Christopher" <cdevin@constar.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>,
Subject: RE:JM'S Bass
Message-ID: <30BA329C@mail-pc.constar.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 0:43:59 EST
From: Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Subject: Re: New Thread! JM's bass
I always liked the bass sound on WDADU. How was that produced and could
they produce it again for the new album? I mean that was a powerful bass
sound and coupled with Derek's crunchy organ it would make for some really
cool sounds. I mean James's singing in his grungier voice, JP's crunchy
guitar, JM's bass like it was on WDADU Derek's organ and MP's Awake drums?
Oh, baby. Maybe it would sound cool.
In response to what JM's bass was on WDADU, in an old issue of guitar player
magazine it was listed as an Ernie Ball Music Man with a Dimarzio EB Bass
pickup fitted in the neck position.It is a similar modification that Billy
Sheean(sp?) has done.
His Bass amplification was listed as Mesa or Pierce, Forgive me if my
memory is foggy in this one. The article compared his modifications and amp
setup as "heavy on the Sheean side"
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Date: 27 Nov 1995 12:22:12 GMT
From: "Steven Johnson, P" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: (U)General stuff
Message-ID: <199511271848.AA03635@interlock.amoco.com>
Just a few thoughts on things in the Jam...
Damon: Thanks for the Tesla album name. I have all five albums, but I couldn't
for the life of me remember "Psychotic Supper." Anyone else have the mind
block where you can't just think about it later and it bugs you to no end? I'm
always afraid I'll wake up at 4 a.m. witht he answer and be too lazy to write
it down or something and forget by morning light. Anyway.....
No matter what influence the Beatles (BTW, I am familiar with all their stuff,
even the rooftop years) had on rock, I will never like 'em (along with
Michigan football and Indiana basketball.
Karri: You mentioned the DT covers as a waste of album space (paraphrased and
creatively edited) and orginals being better than covers because they're
originals. I think it'd have been cool if DT did do something different with
the covers, too.
It'd be nice to see *their* interpretation of the tunes, but then again,
that may be their interpretation. As far as orginials always being better than
covers: "All aloong the watchtower". If anyone thinks Dylan did a better job
than Jimi, I'm gonna have to ask you to step outside!!! :)
Finally, I saw Thought Industry at Thurston's in Chicago back in early
October.
I don't know if it was the engineering, but I thought they sounded like
crap.
As far as the music compostion goes, they sounded closer to industrial than
progressive (labels!!!). I didn't care for them at all. Plus, the singer was
pretty poor. Maybe I need to borrow someone's disc (don't wanna risk a
purchase). LATER-
Steve
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Read between the lines. Criticize the words they're selling.
And the feel the walls become sand beneath your feet.
-"Anybody listening?", Queensryche
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:59:27 -0500
From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: new thread
Message-ID: <v01530500acdfb716b755@[199.232.46.229]>
> Our beloved DT is coming out with a completely new album this
> July ... What would you like to hear on it?
> (We've already discussed covers. I think covers should be left
> on the stage where they belong...)
Agreed. I would still love to see the Ronnie Scots gig released though.
> A song that's written by Derek ... Certainly it should be
> keys-oriented with an extended keys solo. (Something we really
> haven't seen since I&W.)
Right on. I've been listening to WDADU a lot lately and the keys solos kick
ass. I'd love to see more of that. Maybe some cool "battling" between
guitar and keys (or is that too Yngwie? :).
> A song that features John Myung with a Kick-Ass bass groove.
Oh yeah. You know. One of my favorite grooves is in TTT. The 6/4 part where
the vocals enter. That's real nice. I don't care so much about "funk" as
something like that TTT groove.
> I'd say that The Mirror/Lie is about as heavy as I'd like to see
> them go.
Agreed. Lie is awfully heavy for DT I think. I mean, it's the one song that
has the most single note pedal type stuff that's really low keeping it
really heavy. I don't want them to go any heavier really.
> Idea #5: Stick with the "Awake" producers on this one. The
> "Live" feel coupled with Mike's "true" drum sound is a force to
> be reckoned with!
Absolutely!!
> A song in a blues scale would be the perfect touch to the album.
> The lyrics wouldn't necessarily have to be depressing or
> anything... There are plenty of happy blues oriented songs out
> there. Check out, like, everything Aerosmith ever did!
No. I don't think that would fit DT at all. They are not a blues band in
any way. And I'm no fan of Aerosmith either. I don't think it would sound
like DT to do an original bluesy song. If they want to do blues, let 'em do
a cover.
> Idea #7: Of course, they'd need to include their token
> insturmental song as well as their usual 12 minute epic. I
> mean, this is Dream Theater we're talking about isn't it??? ;)
Yes they do and yes it is :).
> The one Achilles Heel of DT, I think, is the vocals. I
> personally love James's voice, but you have to admit that a LOT
> of people don't like DT because of him.
Doesn't that just flip you out? I remember my first reaction to LaBrie (I
got Awake before I&W). I thought, "finally. A rock vocalist with a strong,
clear voice. I bet he's classically trained [turns out he is]. It's such a
relief to hear a rock vocalist who can sing." Now, I was deep in classical
study myself at that time but it's true today. My friend said that he
sounds like an '80's metal singer! He was telling someone that I like DT
and they were like "Dream Theater???!" He defended them by saying "no.
they're really good. it's just the vocalist." Weird. I dig LaBrie :).
--Marc R
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:59:34 -0500
From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: stupid posts to the 'jam
Message-ID: <v01530501acdfb82ef941@[199.232.46.229]>
Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> wrote:
> ... I feel that this needs to be said. I am probably the guy who
> posts messages in a row. Why don't I condense them into one
> message? ...
Who cares? Post your messages in any order and let that loser dude run off
at the mouth. This is my second post instead of multiple messages in a
single post. If you don't like it, bite my cyber butt (note a deliberate
lack of profanity :). I know it's hard but attempt to ignore stupid heads
like that, Damon.
--Marc Respass
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:59:40 -0500
From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Progressive?
Message-ID: <v01530502acdfbab6915c@[199.232.46.229]>
> > And now, after many years and many bands, we may start getting
> > used to the use of odd time signatures, polyrhythms,
> > unconventional song structures, and unconventional subject
> > matter.
> WE do, but the public is still filled with no-taste idiots.
Well. Soundgarden's SpoonMan is in 7/4 for the main riff. I don't think
it's odd-times so much, although that's a favorite thing to point at. The
best odd-time stuff isn't noticable as odd time. Polyrhythms probably stand
out the most which may be why you hear them the least. Like The Mirror.
That's real real noticable and. Unconventional song structures? I'm not
sure what's meant by that. What DT songs don't have a verse and chorus? I
think it's the way the song is approached.
--Marc R
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 13:55:48 -0600 (CST)
From: Kyle Mallett <krm95g@timon.acu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Religion. NDTC
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.951127133932.16031B-100000@timon.acu.edu>
Typically, I would consider this a topic that should be dealt with
in a personal level, rather than on the Jam, but so many people have taken
it upon themselves to make comments, I have decided to respond this way.
I simply don't have the time to respond to every person individually.
Many generalities are made regarding the issue of religion, both
in life and on this list. As a general rule, generalities suck. They are
at times necessary in order to keep conversations to a reasonable length,
but I think it has gone too far in this case.
Christians have been refered to as a collective group and as if
they had only one collective mind. In a sense, those who are not
Christians have sometimes been refered to in the same way. As a
Christian, I don't take such comments personally, because they are often
done simply to get under someones skin; typically a Christian. This is a
foolish thing to do. You can't reasonably expect to flame someones
beliefs and not expect a response.
It doesn't bother me that religion is discussed on this list even
though I know it does some people. However if we are going to discuss it,
may we do as as mature adults, not as children exchanging insults? My
beliefs differ from many others out there, but that I am a Christian does
not mean every comment made about my beliefs are automatically done in
order to make a convert. I do not request or expect the atheists or
anyone else to hide their belief, or lack of. I also don't think anyone
should expect Christians to hide their beliefs either, especially if
they're provoked.
Something I would hope most of us could agree on is that nothing
beneficial comes from the name-calling. The Christians don't make any
converts and the non-Christians don't get the Christians to shut up. It
doesn't work like that. Communication doesn't work like that.
Though we will all never agree on this issue, I think it can still
be discussed if we all use some self-control and thought before
commenting.
On a more specific note made by a Catholic on the list. The
comment said something about how it is the belief of modern Christianity
that no one goes to hell unless they openly renounce the Gospel. Maybe I
haven't heard the latest, but I wasn't under the impression that
Christianity has changed over the last 2,000 years. I am not
knowledgeable enough about Catholicism to comment about that system of
theology. But as far as my beliefs go, the truth does not change.
kyle
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:09:30 -0600 (CST)
From: "Kevin G. Villines" <kvillin@comp.uark.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Magna Carta
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951127140652.12085A-100000@comp>
I have recently gotten my hands on Shadow Gallery and Enchant and they
have been in my 6 disc changer for 3 weeks. Excellent albums!!! Anyway,
my question is: What other great bands are available on the Magna Carta
label. I would really appreciate any info about this wonderful label that
understands what good music is all about. Also, isn't Kevin Moore going
to sign on with M.C.? Thanks for the help, Kevin.
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 20:31:07 +0000 (GMT)
From: Leon Verrall <lmv1000@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: SDV Samples
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.951127201936.3387A-100000@blackbird.sel.cam.ac.uk>
WARNING: First post to this list. Errors likely... Message Ends...
> (Space-Dye Vest, 3:47)
>
> Andy: "In HOUSTON they say that?"
>
> Conan: "Oh maybe not, I'm all mixed up."
>
> Andy/Guest: "Dry until I had the swimming pool."
>
> I can't tell if the last line is Andy or not.
I may not be farmiliar with the show but I'm fairly sure that last line
isn't a part of the previous sample. I _think_ there's a short burst of white
noise and the line is actually:
Try filling up the swimming pool.
It's out of context I know but I'm happy to be corrected :)
Bings.
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Leon Verrall, Selwyn College, "On and on and on creeps this
Camb. England. lmv1000@hermes.cam.ac.uk petty pace from day to day..."
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 15:32 EST
From: fbenenat@testa.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Malibu Show on the 28th
Message-ID: <9511271532.AA04558@kat.pb.net>
Im brand new to the Jam....so Im sending out a grand hello....
In response to note from the Digital Man ( Hello Wedge! ), I gotta
warn most of you...
hearing damage is almost a certainty if you're on the floor...the Malibu
puts on, in my guess the loadest of rock shows....
I saw Extreme there last year, and I was ringing for about 3 days...
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" Clare? Thats a fat girls name!"
- The Breakfast Club
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 15:03:56 -0500
From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: WWW
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.15.11.27.15.3.56.2220.12277@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
Alot of you are waiting to see the picture of the DT embrodered hat, and
signed poster on the WWW. The sample should be back in my hands any day
now, then I will get it up on the NET(grin).
In about 6 more days or so I will have it located at:
There is info there now about the drawing and hat. (picture not
on there yet.)
take care,
You can find TONS of info about DT at: http://www.dreamt.org
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 15:05:54 -0600 (CST)
From: "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tam2000.tamu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: D/FW internet providers
Message-ID: <199511272105.PAA18999@tam2000.tamu.edu>
i just got a job up in dallas (yay!) and am wondering if anyone up
there can point me to a good ISP. i am used to my school acct, with
PPP/SLIP and my UNIX shell which i dont wanna give up. (i actually
like vi)
anyway, any suggestions for ISP's up in D/FW would be appreciated.
oh, i got a job at BNR/Northern Telecom in Richardson, so anyone up
there in the north dallas/plano/richardson area let me know so i will
have some immediate friends after my move.
<><><><><><><><><><> Brian V. Cox (lerxst@tamu.edu) <><><><><><><><><><>
<>Rush|Dream Theater|Queensryche|King's X|Echolyn|King Crimson|Voivod><>
"You have to systematically create confusion - it sets creativity free.
Everything that is contradictory creates life."
-Salvador Dali, 1980
"The man or woman who is insensitive to the spell of this performance
really isn't fit to live in civilized society for it is one of
the wonders of the world"
-Frank Granville Barker
<><><><><><><><><>DAT Taper/Trader - Email me for list<><><><><><><><><>
<><><><><><><><><> http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~bvc8995 <><><><><><><><><>
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 22:11:13 +0100 (MEZ)
From: sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam - the Dream Theater mailing list)
Subject: YTSECON INTERVIEW?
Message-ID: <9511272111.AA72717@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de>
Hello, you lucky Jammers who can go to the US-dates and the Ytsecon II:
How about doing a little interview when you (hopefully) meet the band? Many
of the Jammers have questions but no chance to speak to the band till the
next tour. Someone, maybe one of you Ytseconners, but I would do this too
of course, could collect some questions and then you could interview the
band.
OPINIONS?
SUGGESTIONS?
Steffen
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 15:09:50 -0600 (CST)
From: "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tam2000.tamu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Dane Sonnier (formerly of galactic cowboys) news
Message-ID: <199511272109.PAA20782@tam2000.tamu.edu>
i talked to dane a couple of times over the last two weeks, and saw
his new band "brotherhood" perform. both performances i saw were
sans drummer because he had just quit. the new band is a blues based
song-oriented rock band i guess i would say. reminded me alot of
eric clapton's unplugged stuff, and the eagles, and phish, and the
dead, among other stuff. alot of soloing and screwing around with
tight vocal harmonies and great melodies.
anyway, dane wanted me to tell everyone about the new band and try to
drum up some support. he wants me to start up a web page for them and
everything, and i told him i would see how much support is out there for
him.
if anyone is interested in hearing his new band, let me know. they dont
have any demos out yet, but i taped two of the shows on DAT off the
soundboard.
<><><><><><><><><><> Brian V. Cox (lerxst@tamu.edu) <><><><><><><><><><>
<>Rush|Dream Theater|Queensryche|King's X|Echolyn|King Crimson|Voivod><>
"You have to systematically create confusion - it sets creativity free.
Everything that is contradictory creates life."
-Salvador Dali, 1980
"The man or woman who is insensitive to the spell of this performance
really isn't fit to live in civilized society for it is one of
the wonders of the world"
-Frank Granville Barker
<><><><><><><><><>DAT Taper/Trader - Email me for list<><><><><><><><><>
<><><><><><><><><> http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~bvc8995 <><><><><><><><><>
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 22:18:20 +0100 (MEZ)
From: sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam - the Dream Theater mailing list)
Subject: SUBCONSCIOUS liner notes still available ;-)
Message-ID: <9511272118.AA45374@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de>
Hello all!
Hello Mike Bahr!
> I forget who it was offhand, but there was one Jammer who took
>the info I had and compiled a wonderful description file for
>Subconscious. Whoever that was, could ya throw it up again? Looks like we
>got a request, and I'm sure more are curious.
I was the one with the Subconscious liner notes, which you are hopefully
thinking of.
I'm not surprised you forgot my name. Got on your nerves (and AirDance's) a
lot, didn't I ;-) BTW, how about some info about AD? Though this time liner
notes would be a lot shorter than the Subcon ones.
If someone wants to get this thing, EMAIL ME! I won't send it to the 'jam
until there are a LOT of requests. Last time there wasn't, so I decided just to
mail it to the ones who requested. The whole file is about 25KB, with
lyrics and stuff, and that's just the censored, shortened version!
Nethertheless, I'll send a copy to John Hough, if I didn't already...
BTW, I made an update a few days ago, with the corrected lyrics from the
latest Songbook and several other things, so if you want to update your
old copy, mail me too.
Steffen Barabasch <sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de>
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 22:20:05 +0100 (MEZ)
From: sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam - the Dream Theater mailing list)
Subject: Voice(s) problems, old Afterlife lyrics?
Message-ID: <9511272120.AA46411@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de>
One last time!
Quick note to William Kriski:
>Also, how many people have a bootleg of James singing Voices. The one I
>have is James LaBrie at his absolute worst. Did he have a cold or
>something?!?
As he told us German Jammers in July he had indeed some problems with his
voice during the first leg of the Awake tour. Just saw the Japan PPV video
from January 1995 (thanks Ties) and well, a lot of problems during the second
half of the show. But that's nothing compared to the problems you hear on
the Osaka soundboard recording. This show was November 1992, maybe he gets
a cold every winter, who knows? In July his voice was remarkably better.
Maybe this was one of the reasons they made the overdubs on the Uncovered
live tracks on ACOS.
The lyrics of Afterlife are by Dominici. At least on the album version.
What the hell was Chris Collins singing when Majesty did this song live
back in 1986? I can hardly understand one word ;-(
Steffen
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