YTSEJAM digest 1008

From: ytsejam@arastar.com
Date: Fri Oct 06 1995 - 03:48:06 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 1008

    Today's Topics:

      1) acoustic dreams
     by curth@execpc.com
      2) YJ #1006
     by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
      3) Lost posts?
     by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
      4) Portnoy's LaT Drum solo...
     by "Dr. Teeth" <GLYDE@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
      5) Misc. ramblings...
     by "Craig Newmeyer" <the-vorlon@e-mail.com>
      6) One more thing...
     by dgswanston@vms9.sci.csupomona.edu (Rain King)
      7) richie rivera
     by TIM LODGE <LODGE_TIM@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>
      8)
     by Dave Silva <silva@physci.psu.edu>
      9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1005
     by acook@tiac.net (acook)
     10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1005
     by Kyle Mallett <krm95g@timon.acu.edu>
     11) Re: Ibanez JPM model
     by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
     12) Re: The Killing Hand Parody
     by J R McCullough <jrmccull@freenet.columbus.oh.us>
     13) OH!!! My sides ache!!!
     by dgswanston@vms9.sci.csupomona.edu (Rain King)
     14) Another Day...
     by HOSorrow@aol.com
     15) other bands
     by "Dave D'Uva" <dduva@freenet.npiec.on.ca>
     16) ACOS Poster
     by Philip Jason <philip12@wharton.upenn.edu>
     17) Speaking of a J.Petrucci guitar!!
     by JIMMY <bd30011@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu>
     18) Re: Portnoy's LaT Drum solo...
     by BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.colorado.edu>
     19) question for bassists out there
     by William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca>
     20) random
     by Matthew Sirois <ms014e@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
     21) Re: Bass Pedals
     by SaVeur <jjens@gmu.edu>
     22) Tickets to the CT show?
     by Jason Breitweg <jbreitwe@lobelia.physics.wisc.edu>
     23) Random thoughts generated by Portnoy's solos
     by Dan Kidney <dkidney@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
     24) Hey!
     by digius23@potsdam.edu (Chris DiGiuseppe)
     25) David Peterson's answer
     by haiders@kenyon.edu
     26) School Review of ACoS
     by Fernando Ma <ma@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
     27) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1002
     by giskard@ix.netcom.com (Steve Balderrama )
     28) portnoy drum clinic tape
     by "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tam2000.tamu.edu>

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    Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 14:37:24 -0500 (CDT)
    From: curth@execpc.com
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: acoustic dreams
    Message-ID: <199510051937.OAA07842@earth.execpc.com>

    Hi 'jammers
    I haven't had a chance to read jams 1003, 1005 and 1006 (where oh where could
    that 1004 be??? :) ) but I just wanted to mention I received my Acoustic
    Dreams discs (#12, #33) and all I can say is THANK YOU MIKE BAHR!!! They are
    awesome - especially the sound quality on the first 6 tracks - they alone are
    worth the price, IMO. Well, I got some Jams to read, so I'll shut up and let
    everyone give a more detailed report on AD. C-ya

    Scott Hansen
    curth@execpc.com

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    Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 12:54:13 -0700 (PDT)
    From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
    To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: YJ #1006
    Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.951005125322.73925C-100000@homer09.u.washington.edu>

    To BubaMeats:
    >please send me info on Dream Theater. Any thing you have thanks, Scott
    >Sill
    >
    >(35-lines-long tag removed)
    >
    > (bubameats)

    Now who's going to be first to tell this guy that on the Ytsejams it's
    against the rules to make a tag comprised solely of darkness?

    Bafu Vai

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    Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 13:13:45 -0700 (MST)
    From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Lost posts?
    Message-ID: <199510052013.NAA12916@bud.indirect.com>

            Or should that be _long_ posts?

            While I'm glad people think my posts are generally substantive
    (except, possibly, this one... heh) I'm gonna have to offer a dissenting
    opinion here...

            I rather like longer posts as long as they _go_ somewhere. I
    don't even mind if there are no par-breaks, or if it's a "continuous"
    train of thought, as long as it isn't something to say "I like DT
    oooooooooooh how I like DT I wish they were a chick band so I could
    fantasize about them oooooooooh they the best" ... but usually that's not
    the case. Believe it or not, I even read _all_ the posts about metal
    tapes, and the meter in The Mirror, because I wanted to understand both
    topics. But I usually skip posts about Echolyn and Genesis, since neither
    band has really hit me yet, though I think both are good.

            Short posts are really good for the Jam though, brevity is the
    soul of wit, and if there's anything we are getting in about the most
    appropriate quantity, it's humor. It's not a sordid, melancholy mailing
    list, and yet it's not utterly ridiculous and goofy like the SDOA BBS was
    back in the days of old. To get an idea how things were there, one must
    only look at what SDOA stood for... Small Dogs On Acid.

    Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com

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    Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 15:45:05 -0600 (CST)
    From: "Dr. Teeth" <GLYDE@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
    To: Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Portnoy's LaT Drum solo...
    Message-ID: <01HW34AZKAZM00IRD8@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>

    Ya know, I was watching Live At Tokyo today and I just HAVE to ask this...

    When Portnoy goes into his oh, 8 minute drum solo, half way through, he gives
    this signal to Petrucci as to say "Let's do it now!". Then Petrucci and
    Portnoy echo each other in some sort of weird Death Metal chant or something.
    It's as if they expect us to recognize it or something! Well, me not being an
    afficianado of weird Death Metal chants, am asking you, The Jam what you think
    it is that they're playing. I've heard that sometimes that MP sometimes puts
    some Iron Maiden or Pantera into his solos (NOT that I'm suggesting that they
    are death metal bands!!!), so is this the case, or is it some other band?

    Please let me know. Let us all know, because for God's sake, the fate of the
    world depends on it!!!

                                    =)

    I should take another chill pill, man! ;)

    This is and shall always be...

    .-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=.
    | ______ "Hmmmmmmm..." ____ ______ - David Peterson - |
    | /\_____\ /\ \ /\ /\___\ /\_____\ Glyde@Vax1.Mankato.msus.edu |
    | / /___ / / \/ / / / /\ /_/__ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=|
    | / /\__/\ / / / / / / / / /\____\ "The most beautiful thing that |
    | /_/___/ //_/___ / / /_/___/ / /_/____ this world has to offer is a |
    | \_____\/ \_____\ \/ \_____\/ \______\ woman's smiling face" - Me |
    `-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-='

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    Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 18:30:37 EDT
    From: "Craig Newmeyer" <the-vorlon@e-mail.com>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Misc. ramblings...
    Message-ID: <9510052227.AA13578@anthor.arastar.com>

    Hello everyone!

    How the hell are ya???

    Mike, I'm anxiously awaiting Acoustic Dreams! I rush home to the mailbox
    after work every day!

    I thought Jay Peele's version of 'The Killing Hand' was pretty funny....

    As for the interpretation of the lyrics for 6:00... pretty interesting...
    I'll have to go back and see what the FAQ said about these lyrics... I've
    been wondering about the lyrics to a couple other songs too... 'Lie' and
    'Under a Glass Moon', guess I'll check out the FAQ....

    Hockey season is nearly upon us!!!!! Go Pens!!!!

    Later all.....

    Craig
    ..............................
    "Adesso che ho perso la vista,. Ph: 313-337-5671
    ..ci vedo meglio e di piu".... Fx: 313-323-8706

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    Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 16:24:31 -0700
    From: dgswanston@vms9.sci.csupomona.edu (Rain King)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: One more thing...
    Message-ID: <95100516243123@vms9.sci.csupomona.edu>

    I can't believe it!
            I forgot to thank another illustrious 'Jammer for his recent light-
    hearted contribution that we can place on our coffee table for all visitors to
    see. "Jay Peele, come on down!"
            Your "The Killing Hand" OJ Style (would that be original or extra
    pulpy?) was a SCREAM!!! You would not believe the tension over here in SoCal
    because of that. People have been flying off their rocker (and some that are
    jumping our of their handle :) because of this. I have, so far, spent three
    separate class periods discussing this topic, and most of the time its a clash
    between the Protectors and the Race-Carders. All I can say is, he is going to
    get his ass nailed to the wall in civil court. It ain't over yet, honey. And
    civil trials can take LONGER than the murder ones (no pun intended).
            Oh well! Either way, he is still guilty of placing himself in the
    "wrong place at the wrong time." I am a firm believer that "they" (whoever
    they may be) can not just take some Joe Schmoe of the street and frame him for
    something. He had to be doing something wrong to get himself caught up in that
    situation. That's why people are always saying "Protect Your Own," and C.Y.A.:
    "Cover Your Ass."
            That's all I have for now. BTW, flames not tolerated, but critcism
    (constructive AND otherwise) accepted and appreciated.

    --*--
    David G. Swanston, IV | E-Mail:DGSwanston@VMS9.Sci.CSUPomona.Edu
            Thus stated, the excrement shall promptly and most forcefully
            strike the oscillating ventalator.

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    Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 17:26:03 -0400 (EDT)
    From: TIM LODGE <LODGE_TIM@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: richie rivera
    Message-ID: <951005172603.202900ca@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>

    If richie Rivera is still on the 'jam, and reads this.
    PELASE EMAIL ME!
    As I have a tape that has needed to be sent to you for sometime now!

    Tim Lodge

    lodge_tim@ccsu.ctstateu.edu

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    Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 17:23:43 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Dave Silva <silva@physci.psu.edu>
    To: ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9510051743.B5315-9100000@champs>

    Not to beat a dead horse..........

    Mi lengua, mi lengua.....se sale de mi boca.

    It does mean.... My tongue, my tongue....It's coming out of my mouth.

    It's actually even mor bizarre than it at first appears. The way it's
    stated gives the tongue the action. He's not sticking his tongue out.
    His tongue seems to be having a mind of its own!!

    I guess the guy who said it is as bizarre as Vai is (but can Vai write
    amazing music!!)

    Dave

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    Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 17:33:51 -0400
    From: acook@tiac.net (acook)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1005
    Message-ID: <199510052133.RAA11966@zork.tiac.net>

    >For our 14 year old jammer: Just curious, but do you have older siblings? I
    >have two brothers that are 11 and 13 years older then me, respectively (I'm
    >21). They introduced me to a lot of good music that was far from popular
    >then and now. Because of them I heard old Genesis, Yes, ELP, you name it.
    >BTW, it was one of them who also introduced me to DT!
    >

    Well, I have an older sister who's a College Freshman, however she isn't
    exactly a trend setter. She listens to Hootie & the Blowfish. Nobody else,
    except for a 28 year old cousin who got me into AC/DC and Metallica, heh.
    Beleive it or not, my Dad (who's 46) actually likes DT. He especially gets
    into the Elton John covers, he seems to have better taste then my sister...
    ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
    | Adam Cook Dream Theater*Queensryche*Rush* |
    | acook@tiac.net Metallica*Fates Warning Red-Sox gotta beat |
    | Ibanez S470*ADA MP-1*Fender HOT*Zoom 1012* Indian Scum!! =) |
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    Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 16:46:00 -0500 (CDT)
    From: Kyle Mallett <krm95g@timon.acu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1005
    Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.951005164227.28257B-100000@timon.acu.edu>

            Somebody was king enough to copy the Kevin Moore demos for me, but
    neglected to write the song titles down. Could some kind individual
    please post the song list? Thanks in advance.
            Also, I am on a search for Dream Theater posters. I have promo
    posters for Faith No More- King For a Day... and King's X- Faith Hope Love
    which I would be willing to trade if someone is interested. Let me know.
            One more thing. Has anyone out there ever heard an explanation of
    the lyrics to Voices and the Silent Man by JP? How about any other
    memeber of the band? If not, anyone want to offer up their own ideas?
    (I'm sure that'll get a response).

    kYle

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    Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 18:37:41 -0400 (EDT)
    From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Re: Ibanez JPM model
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9510051842.E6148-0100000@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu>

    Hey Are yuoou That freeZa D00d from IRC??? If so Welcome to the
    list...hehe and I see ya finally got here :) Take er' Easy

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
    According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats:
    If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) (i.e.
    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major would have
    4 sharps.
    StatisticZ show that if a person is born with Perfect Pitch, chances are
    they will grow up to be a famous...Baseball Player!!! :)

    "Just Lighten up and listen to the Music" -Kevin Moore (inside joke)

                                    emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu

                    Eric Moegling: afn22909@freenet.ufl.edu

                                    emoeglin@mail.coin.missouri.edu

    fOr MoRE nFo AboUT mE fIngEr: emoeglin@freenet.scri.fsu.edu
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    Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 18:40:33 -0400 (EDT)
    From: J R McCullough <jrmccull@freenet.columbus.oh.us>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: The Killing Hand Parody
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.07.9510051831.A2269-b100000@acme>

    > THE KILLING HAND (OJ)
    >
    > I. The Stabbing
    >
    > An Angel's kiss now fallen
    > Descending knife cuts the bride
    > Faded blood left on the walk
    > Honor the race card leave life to die
    > Remember not domestic abuse
    > Ignore blood on my socks
    > Who are the police?
    > Did they control my Killing Hand
    > that caused this mourning?
    > Bronco riding...
    >
    > II. Bronco Ride
    >
    > Lowered deep into his seat
    > Gun awaits to cleanse his sins
    > Senses weakening time is still
    > Spotted by that damn motorist
    >
    > The wheels race on and
    > Sirens flash
    > Traveling all to find his home
    > He must give up and go to jail
    > But now, he will begin to
    > Manipulate
    >
    > III. The Stray Sock
    >
    > Extended some cash to Cochran's hand
    > Manifestation for the race card
    > Waiting amidst scientific proof card
    > No big thing, No worry, No rationale
    >
    > He's a free man
    >
    > Sipping his whiskey Nordberg sings
    > Yet another to add more bodies fallen
    > Juice from below
    > this one controls
    > the Killing Hand that caused this mourning
    > Should he thank Furman?
    > -----------------------

    I have never laughed so hard for so long while reading the 'Jam (with
    the possible exception of the "every ass in the universe" line from Jason's
    ACoS review. Great Work!

    ******************* J.R. McCullough **********************
    * Find all you need in your mind, if you take the time...*
    * -- Dream Theater, "Take the Time" *
    **********************************************************

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    Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 16:03:31 -0700
    From: dgswanston@vms9.sci.csupomona.edu (Rain King)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: OH!!! My sides ache!!!
    Message-ID: <95100516033076@vms9.sci.csupomona.edu>

    Hello all:
            To all the people on this list who are too sensitive to take a joke...
    lighten up!!! I APPRECIATE the pungent sarcasm and stinging wit of some of the
    more infamous 'Jammers, like Bafu Vai. Bud, your last post had me ROLLING!
    That ink bottle quip laid me out on the floor (a scene unto itself, considering
    I am sitting in the school's computer lab with about 75 tranced CS, ECE, and
    CIS majors feverishly attempting to complete projects due at 5:00 tonight). If
    it wasn't for the light-heartedness of 'Jammers like you and Dave (kylania),
    this place would be boring.
            But just remember what the great philosophers say (don't ask me who,
    'cuz I'm making this up), you can't have the yin without the yang, so we need
    ALL of the 'Jammers on the list, from Bafu, to Jimmy, and all the rest. This
    just makes us more like one big, happy family. Yes, happy. Not one of you
    can tell me that you have not been thrilled, enthralled, or cracked a little
    smile at least once while reading the 'Jam. And think, if we didn't have all
    if this lovely tension, we'd be boring, like the Flanders.
            And if you STILL don't agree, do what I did and UNDIGEST. That way, if
    you start to read a "long-ass" post or something that sounds like it belongs in
    the crapper, you can just delete it and continue on to the next letter. (It's
    also a helluva lot easier to pull out the stuff you like.) BTW, if this is
    your decision, DON'T POST YOUR REQUEST TO THE 'JAM!!! Read the "Welcome To The
    YTSEJAM" letter that you received upon intiation and it'll tell you what to do.
            There, my dos centavos.
            * * RANT MODE OFF * *
            One last thing, my "Judgment in the Age of ACOS" will have a part II,
    it is still in the works. "Coming to a 'Jam near you!!!"

    --*--
    David G. Swanston, IV | E-Mail:DGSwanston@VMS9.Sci.CSUPomona.Edu
        They're your fears, they're your terrors, and they live in a cave...
        In the pit of your psyche, and they all are named DAVE!
                                                Crappon to The MAXX, Iss. #5

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    Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 19:27:39 -0400
    From: HOSorrow@aol.com
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Another Day...
    Message-ID: <951005192739_71327723@emout05.mail.aol.com>

    This is my first attempt at posting to the list, so bear with me if i screw
    up somewhere along the line...
        I'm just writing because i came across some DT material that i found
    interesting. I was talking to my bud during english class (what else is there
    to do??) and i mentioned Dream Theater. He said "that name sounds familiar"
    So he left it at that. the next day, he comes to school and gives me a
    videocassette. He said his brother's friend subscribes to "ROCKvideo
    Monthly", which i had never heard of. He pointed to the box and said "Dream
    Theater?" and i looked and i said "DREAM THEATER!!!" It's a compilation of
    metal videos for the releases around June '93. The third video is 'Another
    Day'. I've heard that it didn't make MTV's playlist, so i kinda jumped at the
    sight.
          So, i havn't even gotten a chance to watch it yet, and i plan on doing
    that right now. If there are a few folks who havn't seen it, i'll kindly do a
    little review for ya in the future.
           I saw 'Lie' once on MTV around last October or November, whenever DT
    was on Headbanger's Ball (my first exposure to the band i might add). I liked
    the video, but havn't seen it since. I haven't seen PMU or TTT at all... i'm
    so deprived. I'm in a DT video fix right now. I think it would be cool of DT
    to release a video compilation with their next album. The videocassette could
    have all videos up to that point (especially 'The Silent Man'... that video's
    gotta be good!!) plus one off of their new album. I guess it would be kinda
    'neat' to do and to see.
       Welp, i gotta go check this video out! later dudes!

    Jeff.

    All hail the mighty Ibanez, Axe of the Gods.

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    Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 20:05:19 -0400 (EDT)
    From: "Dave D'Uva" <dduva@freenet.npiec.on.ca>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: other bands
    Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9510052035.A13013-0100000@freenet>

    One of the reasons I love reading the jam is that I get to learn about all
    the other bands that inspired Dream Theater, or are similar to them in some
    way, or are progressive, etc. Anyways, a while ago I went to the local
    Sunrise Records and listened to Fates Warning and Ozric Tentacles (they hav=
    e
    those 'try before you buy' stations set up in the store).

    The Fates CD was Parallels. I had never heard them before, and I was looki=
    ng
    forward to hearing it, because that disc was #1 on my similarities engine
    results (and with a real high weight, too). Now, I know that just about
    everybody on the Jam likes this band, so please don't flame me, but I didn'=
    t
    really hear anything special. But then again, I didn't have all that much
    time so I was kinda just skimming through the songs. I don't know if I
    would've liked it more if I had time to listen to the whole thing, but
    nothing jumped out at me like DT's songs do.

    On the other hand, I was also really looking forward to hearing Ozric
    Tentacles. I love instrumental songs/bands, 'cause with no vocals, you're
    forced to listen to the music. The disc was Arborescence (their latest, I
    think?). I liked this one from the start, and ended up buying it. It's ju=
    st
    so wonderfully weird! I love the mystic synthesizers, it reminds me of EPC=
    OT
    Centre. Anyways, I would like to hear more from this band. Any suggestion=
    s
    as to where I should go from here?

    Thanx,

    ----Dave
    --dduva@freenet.npiec.on.ca

    -=3D=F0=3D--=3D=F0=3D--=3D=F0=3D--=3D=F0=3D--=3D=F0=3D--=3D=F0=3D--=3D=F0=
    =3D--=3D=F0=3D--=3D=F0=3D--=3D=F0=3D--=3D=F0=3D--=3D=F0=3D--=3D=F0=3D-
     ...and you know, and you know now that some things never change
     in a world, in a world that seems bound by human pain

                            --The Tea Party, "The Majestic Song"
    -=3D=F0=3D--=3D=F0=3D--=3D=F0=3D--=3D=F0=3D--=3D=F0=3D--=3D=F0=3D--=3D=F0=
    =3D--=3D=F0=3D--=3D=F0=3D--=3D=F0=3D--=3D=F0=3D--=3D=F0=3D--=3D=F0=3D-

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    Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 21:02:19 -0400
    From: Philip Jason <philip12@wharton.upenn.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com,
    Subject: ACOS Poster
    Message-ID: <199510060102.VAA22729@futures.wharton.upenn.edu>

    Anyone know if East West Records released an ACOS promo poster? I think
    they did. The local record store said that they thought they had one but
    gave it to the brother of one of the stores workers, but they weren't sure.
    If anyone knows this knowledge would be greatly appreciated.

                            Phil

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    Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 22:07:30 -0400 (EDT)
    From: JIMMY <bd30011@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: Speaking of a J.Petrucci guitar!!
    Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951005220118.24410A-100000@bingsun1>

    Paul Cashman,

    You said the guitarist from the band you just saw had a J.P model guitar.

    I get even more jealous everyday, my roomate went home for a weekend and
    he came back up here with a J.P model guitar -- Only 200 made
    (supposedly) and he got one. $1050. Fortunately he lets me play some
    time!! Good luck finding another one to anybody out there who wants
    one. You can probably order one from Ibanez for at least double the
    price since they will actually be custom making it for you!!

                                                    
                                            --Jimmy--

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    Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 20:16:17 -0600 (MDT)
    From: BERTAPELLE ADAM RAYE <bertapel@ucsu.colorado.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: Portnoy's LaT Drum solo...
    Message-ID: <199510060216.UAA07829@ucsu.colorado.edu>

    The guitar riff in Mike LiT solo is Pantera's By Demons Be Driven,
    and I don't think Petrucci is playing with him...I think he's just
    playing along with the sample. On the Awake tour, he was playing
    along with a Slayer riff (I don't know which one) and of course,
    Public Enemy's Chuck D..."Hear the drummer get WICKED!!!"
    -Adam

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    Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 20:23:12 -0600 (MDT)
    From: William Kriski <wkriski@enci.ucalgary.ca>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: question for bassists out there
    Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951005201856.24042C-100000@casual1>

    Bassists out there,

    I have a question about ACOS: I have been playing guitar for 14 years
    now, but something that Myung does on ACOS puzzles me. During one of the
    mellow sections it sounds for a bit like Myung is playing harmonics, but
    a few times he makes a really percussive sound and I don't hear a
    harmonic. To me it sounds bad, but I was wondering how I can appreciate
    what he's doing. Fill me in!

    I don't know how one of the jammers didn't notice ACOS started with
    lower-than-E notes! Also, I thought John's wah playing was tasteful in
    Lie but now it's starting to get annoying, like near the end of ACOS.
    Maybe John and Kirk can do a Cacophony-type deal using the wah exclusively!

    Will

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    Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 22:40:37 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Matthew Sirois <ms014e@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: random
    Message-ID: <199510060240.WAA04077@uhura.cc.rochester.edu>

            Randall Braun asked about songs with the same name as an album from
    the same group. How about the album Out of the Silent Planet by Kings X and
    the song of the same title on Gretchen Goes to Nebraska? Of Fates Warning's
    new collection named after Chasing Time, a song off of Perfect Symmetry?
    C'mon, everyone here should have known those! :)
            I'd like to say more, but hey, I wouldn't want to confuse anyone out
    there who doesn't like that "reading" thing. God forbid we should have to
    deal with a long message, you know, all those "ideas" and shit can get
    pretty upsetting. We might have to "think" or something. That would suck.
    Hey, how about we limit the lenght of the sentences we use too? Oh, and no
    words over, say, eight letters long.
            How about you knock on those wonderful signature files that take up
    half the screen before you limit what I have to say, friend.

    Long live the revolution (we won't need any guns). -Matt

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    Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 23:40:39 -0400
    From: SaVeur <jjens@gmu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: Bass Pedals
    Message-ID: <199510060340.XAA05271@reactor.site.gmu.edu>

    >I am curious if anyone recalls ever seeing DT use bass pedals in concert.

    i've seen DT twice and i'm positive that Mr. Myung was jammin' on pedals. in
    fact, here's a bit from an article i typed up from BASS Player:

    "...'I'm using all-MESA/Boogie amps and speakers, and I'm also using bass
    pedals. My bass parts sound huge.'"

    the entire article is available at my web site
    <http://www.site.gmu.edu/~jjens/dt/> and at a couple other places :)

    >Have seen them three times and dont recall seeing them, myself. And, I dont
    >think that DT has ever used them on disk, but I am not positive.

    i'm pretty sure John used them on I&W and Awake; maybe on ACoS too...

    >I personally
    >have always liked bass pedals because they really fill out the overall sound,
    >adding a lot high energy punch to the impact of those climatic moments.

    i like 'em too...

    >Are bass pedals just too old fashioned ??

    are they? echolyn's ex-bassist used 'em. Yanni's bassist uses 'em. how 'bout
    that Marillion bassist (i'm doin' really good on names tonite, eh?) i'm
    considering getting a set...after a new cabinet...speaking of which, anyone
    wanna buy my current rig? email me ;)

    -john YJLHB

    j o h n j j e n s @ g m u . e d u
    e
    n
    s h t t p : / / w w w . s i t e . g m u . e d u / ~ j j e n s /

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    Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 23:17:36 -0500
    From: Jason Breitweg <jbreitwe@lobelia.physics.wisc.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Tickets to the CT show?
    Message-ID: <m0t14Cw-0000HzC@donews.cts.com>

    Hi All,

    I was wondering if the tickets for the CT DT show are on sale yet? I
    am in Madison, Wisconsin right now but I will be in Maine for X-mas
    and I am willing to drive the five hours to see the show. Is
    ticketbastard selling the tickets for this show? Or would some kind
    soul out there be willing to buy me a ticket and I can send you a
    check for it? I hope someone close to CT can help me since I have no
    way of getting a ticket from here in the Midwest. I hope to hear from
    someone soon. Take care.

    Jason

    +-------Jason T. Breitweg--------------Internet: breitweg@amzeus.desy.de------+
    | I can definitely say that Jason is NO SEXIST. He loves this girl and wants |
    | her to experience metal, too. Metal DOES make your life |
    +-------------= much richer and better. by Georg Greve =-------------+

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    Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 23:17:02 -0500 (CDT)
    From: Dan Kidney <dkidney@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Random thoughts generated by Portnoy's solos
    Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.951005230436.87917B-100000@red.weeg.uiowa.edu>

    On Mind Control and on the Live in Tokyo video, right after Portnoy hits
    his sticks together and the crowd claps back, Petrucci cuts in with a
    riff and he and Portnoy go at it for a bit, followed by an involved drum bit.
            My roommate and I think that the one from Mind Control is part of
    Slayer's "Raining Blood". Does anyone know what the snippet from Live in
    Tokyo is from?
            Here's the random thought. I've heard that Portnoy likes some
    heavier bands, e.g. Napalm Death and others, and apparently someone in
    the band is a Slayer fan. Wouldn't it be cool if DT would cover, say, a
    classic Slayer song like Seasons in the Abyss in concert some time or
    release it as a bonus track? (yes, I know, a lot of people will probably take
    issue with me that SitA isn't a "classic" Slayer tune.) I wonder.
    I wonder how LaBrie would handle that.
            Dream Theater certainly incorporates a lot of styles. I wonder
    what the predominant musical background of jammers is? I hear a lot of
    jammers talking about Marillon/Fates Warning/Kings X/Q.ryche/Rush, but I
    wonder what other tastes, mellower and/or heavier, y'all have. Mebbe we
    can start to pin down the amazing phenomenon we all know and luv as
     
                    ****************DREAM THEATER*************
                               (all hail to the gods)
    thanks for your patience.
     
                                                            --Dan

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    Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 00:36:16 +0000
    From: digius23@potsdam.edu (Chris DiGiuseppe)
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Hey!
    Message-ID: <v01510104ac98ed477736@[137.143.109.218]>

    Jammers,
         Hello! I just realized that Joe Satriani has a new album out! Could
    someone please email me with some tour info? I live in NY, so any where in
    the surrounding states would be cool! (I drove 6 hours to see DT!)
    Anyways, I'm a big fan of his, so any help would be much appreciated.
         Also, I play an Ibanez RG770. I really love this guitar,and I want to
    replace the pickups in it. I was thinking of that DiMarzio "Air" pickup
    that J.P. uses, has anyone tried it out? Thanks for the help in advance!
    -Digius23@potsdam.edu

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    Date: Fri, 06 Oct 1995 00:39:36 EST
    From: haiders@kenyon.edu
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: David Peterson's answer
    Message-ID: <0099770C.AD44A3C0.26@kenyon.edu>

    David--
            I'm not going to put the tape in and check, but I think that riff that
    Petrucci and Portnoy do together is Pantera from the Vulgar Display of Power
    album. I think it's from the song "Fucking Hostile." Someone want to back me
    up here?

    Sean Haider
    bassist, INTROSPECTION

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    Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 21:53:41 -0700 (MST)
    From: Fernando Ma <ma@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
    To: Ytsejam List <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
    Subject: School Review of ACoS
    Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.951005214752.17956A-100000@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>

    Yeah, the UofA newspaper reviewed ACoS on their Oct. 5 edition. It's
    really small, but here are some excerpts for those interested:
    "This is true underground music now-Dream Theater has managed to survive
    and flourish without the help from MTV or the current crop of
    "alternative" radio stations. And,one day, they will rise again to crush
    the legion of bands that only know three chords and can't find a way to
    create a smooth transition between Dixie Dregs' "Cruise Control" and
    Genesis' "Turn it on again."

    I think they already have. :P

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                            Fernando Ma
                            ma@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu
                            http://bigdog.engr.arizona.edu/~ma
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "...She turned around for one last look, she looked me in the eye, I
    said I love you...goodbye. PLEASE DON'T GO!"-Dream Theater
    "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities
    of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men..."-Jules, Pulp Fiction
    "Indecision is my enemy."-Afghan Whigs
                                    

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    Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 22:11:18 -0700
    From: giskard@ix.netcom.com (Steve Balderrama )
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1002
    Message-ID: <199510060511.WAA29244@ix7.ix.netcom.com>

    >>> Favorite Dream Theatre Solo

    The guitar solo on the Live In Tokyo video. Absolutely one of the most
    tasteful, well done solo's I've ever seen. So many guitarists seem to
    think a solo is just for them to shred with no plan of action. JP's
    solo was well built and flowed beautifully, yet still showed off his
    chops. Good stuff.

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    Date: Fri, 6 Oct 1995 00:25:36 -0500 (CDT)
    From: "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tam2000.tamu.edu>
    To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
    Subject: portnoy drum clinic tape
    Message-ID: <199510060525.AAA27401@tam2000.tamu.edu>

    > From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
    >
    > To John Nguyen: You're attending a Mike Portnoy drum clinic? I don't
    > suppose it would be possible for you to, I don't know, accidentally drop a
    > microphone into your sock or something? I'd LOVE to hear a bootleg of a
    > clinic given by Portnoy. Does anyone know if this sort of thing is ever
    > done? I'm sure the drummers on this list would appreciate it ytse much if
    > someone could get MP's instruction/performance on tape or some other
    > recorded media.

    well you must have missed my post a couple of weeks ago. i taped the
    portnoy drum clinic in houston on DAT. amazing sound. i asked about a
    possible tape tree for it and got absolutely no response, so i guess no
    one cares...

       **always looking for rush/dream theater/queensryche/king's x bootlegs**
    =============================================================================
     Voices repeating me, Brian V. Cox Voices discussing me,
     "Feeling threatened? lerxst@tamu.edu "Others steal your thoughts
    We reflect your hopes Dream Theater- They're not confined
         and fears." A Mind Beside Itself: II. Voices Within your mind."
    =============================================================================
             check out my new homepage: http://tam2000.tamu.edu/~bvc8995

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