YTSEJAM Digest 1018
Today's Topics:
1) ACOS and other stuff
by Deebor@aol.com
2) other stuff
by Deebor@aol.com
3) Keeping DT underground
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
4) asdf
by Mike Hanby <mjh3215@acs.tamu.edu>
5) Yes recommendations.
by "MR. THE ESQUILAX" <YYSD@grove.iup.edu>
6) ACoS in Finland
by Victor Jason <victor@dawn.joensuu.fi>
7) I&W
by Mad dog <jmh@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
8) POLL
by w de boer <boer303@hio.tem.NHL.NL>
9) Trinity symbol
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1016
by borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
11) Re: Subcon Insert
by "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
12) Re: Pantera
by acook@tiac.net (acook)
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1015
by "Robert Quezada" <rquezada@monmouth.com>
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1015
by "Mr R.J. Chinneck" <R.Chinneck@liverpool.ac.uk>
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Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 23:23:29 -0400
From: Deebor@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ACOS and other stuff
Message-ID: <951008232327_39646625@mail02.mail.aol.com>
First off I'd like to state that I wrote each of these letters a long time
ago, my online service went bad, and now I'm sending them many days later.
So if you read any messages by "George" or "Deebor" in this jam they're many
days old.
Now for the message:
Yes, I have already posted on this song, but like all DT, you hear more with
each listen.
I think the acoustic ending fits well as it ends on an uncertain note, which
reflects the hopeful lyrics at the end of the song. Also it cycles back and
mimics the acoustic intro, which is what the song is about. A cycle. Fall,
Winter, Spring, Summer. A father telling his son "Seize the Day" and the son
in turn tells his son the same. A very suitable ending indeed.
I also notices that toward the end many musical themes from much earlier on
were touched on again: the heavy guitar riff from the beginning, the
bass/drum melody( I think Mike plays it) from the beginning is repeated at
the beginning of the inevitable summer, and one bass riff from the beginning
is played again in the middle of the inevitable summer. Once again, a cycle
of things.
The song gets even better with each listen.
Thanks again, DT.
George
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Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 23:23:43 -0400
From: Deebor@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: other stuff
Message-ID: <951008232341_39646796@emout06.mail.aol.com>
Well I just got another friend into DT and it seems he is getting to be
almost as "into" DT as I am. Just the other night we both stayed up until
3:00 talking about the band for 3 hours. And it was a school night. Anyways
here's an interesting part of our conversation I thought I'd like to share
with the jam.
We were talking about how Dream Theater's name and how it was a very fitting
name.
DREAM: You know how each DT member's life story is very emotional? Kevin
Moore's
depression over breaking up and uncertainty about leaving the band, John
Petruicci's father stricken with cancer. Everybody has these personal
things. Everybody has dreams. Mike Portnoy's dream of becoming a successful
musician, trying to get the most out of his life, trying to seize the day.
Which is what I think the "I was blinded by a paradise, Utopia high in the
sky. A dream that only drowned me. Deep in sorrow, wondering why." might be
about. Remember, he wrote this part before I&W came out, before the band had
some success.
Musically their form of music is much like a dream, not your everyday 4/4 and
very complex. Like a dream, it should not make sense, yet it does. Just like
a dream.
THEATER: A theater is where performances take place. They somehow take the
Dreams lyrically and musically to the theater level and they perform it.
They make the impossible audible.
Next interesting topic:
Remember the supposed hidden message on Awake within all the samples and
quotes? I believe I've figured it out. The message: It's all of the
confusion and emotion that led to Kev's departure.
VOICES: "I don't wanna be here, 'cause of my suffering..." "You got to know
what you're dealing with"
MIRROR: "what are you doing? what are you doing?"
SPACE-DYE VEST:"This without a doubt is his biggest challenge ever he's gonna
have to face it. He's gotta try and get some help here you know no one can
say they know how he feels" The teenager leaving the lecturing parent's
house, as compared to Kev leaving the band. "If you're not in this house by
nine o'clock you'd better find some place to sleep."
"I can be on my own, get a job.."
"They say in Houston it's a 180 degrees" (He moved to somewhat the Houston
area. Who knows? maybe that's where he had initially planned to move.)
And his break-up with his girlfriend might have contributed to his departure
as well. "He's the sort that can't know anyone intimately, least of all a
woman... He doesn't love you"
6:00: Basically the entire song is about Kev's leave, so the quotes fit
appropriately.
So did I get it? Do I win anything?
George
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Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 22:13:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Keeping DT underground
Message-ID: <199510090513.AA08233@crl12.crl.com>
I don't agree with the Ytsejammer who was irked about fans calling and
supporting the band -- he said his enjoyment of EMPIRE was diminished
when "Silent Lucidity" became such a huge hit.
Uh, why? Did the music just suddenly drop out some notes? Did some
nefarious plot wipe out whole segments of the playback spectrum?
Sorry, but this is pretty silly. I liked EMPIRE from the moment I
heard the album, and when I saw that the "SL" video was destined for
greatness I thought "Cool, another band that DESERVES to make it, will
FINALLY make it." I was involved in the original call-ins for the
"Eyes of a Stranger" video (yes, back then MTV actually used those
calls for market research), and I was delighted QR was finally making
the big time.
I have friends in bands ranging from just-starting-out (local bands
Narcolepsy, Early Warning, Bonedance, Moonwater, et al.) to the
been-there-and-got-screwed level (Mutha's Day Out) to the Grammy
Winning level (Metallica) to the had-a-great-career-come-see-us-at-
this-bar level (Blue Oyster Cult) . It pains me to see talent and
dedication, blood and sweat, go unrewarded.
Let's face it -- DT will probably never play stadium shows on their
own, no matter if every person on this list called their radio
stations and demanded airplay incessantly. There are a number of
reasons (how many Ytsejammers have friends who sniff derisively and
dismiss DT as another glam/hair band?), but they are not destined to
be another Van Halen, at least not here in the States.
It's important that we show our support, though, because Elektra is
watching. Album sales for AWAKE here have flattened out and every
little bit helps; besides, Dream Theater deserves whatever we can
do to help sell their CDs and convert our friends to being DT fans.
These are OUR friends in a sense; it's the least I can do help put
bread on their tables.
-- +--- Paul W. Cashman vanyel@crl.com http://www.crl.com/~vanyel ---+ | Rush * Robert Jordan * Queensryche * Michael Moorcock * Metallica | | James P. Hogan * Dream Theater * Robert Heinlein * NIN * Dead | | Can Dance * Mercedes Lackey * Blue Oyster Cult * Raymond Feist....|------------------------------
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 95 03:59:08 -0700 From: Mike Hanby <mjh3215@acs.tamu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: asdf Message-ID: <199510090859.DAA12036@mail.tamu.edu>
ytsejam Mike Hanby
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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 1995 15:26:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "MR. THE ESQUILAX" <YYSD@grove.iup.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Yes recommendations. Message-ID: <01HW4I0NZFC28WX3V2@grove.iup.edu>
for the guy who asked for Yes recommendations: my personal favorites are Relayer and Drama. Drama is pretty heavy for Yes and does NOT have Jon Anderson. i think that it's an excellent album with some interesting keyboard parts. Relayer has Patrick Moraz on keys and seems really complex, even more so than many of their other works. Close To The Edge is a safe bet and Fragile is pretty good. the really early stuff is kinda shaky and whether one likes Going for the One or Tormato really depends on personal taste. The Yes Album is very good if you're not looking for super cool keyboard parts, though i think it's the best job i've heard Tony Kaye do.
just my recommendations. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mr. The Viv This VivMail has been brought programme, vox, bassoon, sequinned cape to you by VivNet. Group Indiana Univ. of PA yysd@oak.grove.iup.edu
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 95 11:44:06 EET From: Victor Jason <victor@dawn.joensuu.fi> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: ACoS in Finland Message-ID: <199510090944.LAA05176@dawn.joensuu.fi>
Hi Jammers!!!!!
I just wanted to tell you that ACoS has had a pretty good responce in Finland. I was pretty surprised...first week it jumped up to 30, last week it was 17 and the second fastest deal on the list... dunno about this week, but it should be climbing! I can't recall seeing any DT record hit the list in Finland like this. COOL!!!!
Keep on Jamming!!!
Bear -- Gather ye rose-buds while ye may, Old time is still a-flying: And this same flower that smiles to-day, To-morrow will be dying.
-Robert Herrick
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 00:42:07 -0700 (MST) From: Mad dog <jmh@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu> To: ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: I&W Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.951009001211.24664B-100000@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
I have been out of town for the weekend, and am behind on 'jams, but I kind of doubt that this topic of conversation has been breached... Yes, this is another message about James LaBrie, but I won't mention again how he sings live. Anyways...
I was listening (still am) to I&W for the first time in a little while, and something hit me. Just a quick note: What I am saying about James isnt bad. I love how he sings...
To preface this, I'd like you to think about bands changing vocalists. Something I see a lot, is the new singer attempting to sound like the old singer, at least in the beginning, sorta to ease the transition. A prime example is Genesis. I haven't heard enough Genesis around the time of the change, but from what I know, it seems like Phil began trying to imitate Peter Gabriel, at least to some extent. Phil gradually went back to his more normal vocal style, either that or he just changed how he sings. Lou Grahm left Foreigner for a while, and the other guys put out a rather unknown album, _Unusual Heat_. In the beginning of the album, Johnny Edwards does his Lou Grahm impersonation, and the rest of the band basically trys to do what they could to sound like Foreigner, until later in the album, when the whole band actually did some kind of new stuff.
I could go on, but I can't think of any other examples at the moment, and that's not my point anyways. What I'm saying is, that when James came in on PMU, he sound almost Charlie-ish. It was also a bit noticable a little way into TTT. My hypothesis is this: James' more natural voice is what we hear on _Awake_. Granted, he does not have one set voice, but I'm thinking that his rougher vocals on _Awake_ are more like what he wants. I'm thinking that he was new for I&W and he didn't have as much pull and couldn't do everything the way he wanted. My geuss is that James would be most at home with the vocals specifically on _Caught in a Web_ since its the song that he's had the most lyrical work on. Then again, I may well be quite off.
People who have heard James pre-DT (ie Winter Rose, or whatever) or people who just have more of a clue than I do; Am I just completely off base here?
Also note that his only lyrical accreditation was for TTT with all of DT. Granted, on _Awake_ the only bit of lyric he was credited with was CiaW with Petrucci, but that is more input. Another random thing I'll point out it's common for one person to be the almost exclusive songwriter for a band, usually the singer. With DT we have the guitarist and keyboardist mainly doing lyrics, with contributions from everyone, and with the singer writing the absolute least. Then again, when i wake up and include WDADU in my counting, the vocalists together are tied with Myung and Portnoy... though maybe Mike should get a litte more than a one song credit for ACoS...
A "Mad dog shaven head bottle boy Freak" aka John Haveman "D'accord je t'adore, au revoir, au revoir!"
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Date: Mon, 09 Oct 1995 14:52:12 +0100 From: w de boer <boer303@hio.tem.NHL.NL> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: POLL Message-ID: <9510091352.AA00651@hio.tem.nhl.nl>
Hey jammers, I have some answers for the ACOS poll. 1. I would give it an 8. It's not perfect because of the annoying drum sound and some of the covers are not great (e.g. Led Z) 2. Section V (Another World). It is definitely the most emotional part of the song. It was hard to choose between IV (Darkest of Winters) and V, because I am also very much into instrumental music and I love the high-pitched distorted guitar sound in this part. 3. Love lies bleeding. Seldom have I heard such a great rock 'n roll song. You have to be really good to be able to play this. Later!
Wietze.
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 95 09:55:08 EDT From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Trinity symbol Message-ID: <9510091355.AA24195@ici.net>
>I was watching "Live From the House of Blues" a couple nights ago on WTBS (I >think) and before they cut to commercial they had a shot of the House of >Blues logo. It said (surprise, surprise) House of Blues, but behind it >(SURPRISE!!!) was a BURNING HEART WRAPPED IN THORNS. Hmmmmmmm. Where have >I seen THAT before?
Actually, it's a representation of the Holy Trinity from the christian faith. I have an album by the band Mortification that also has it on the cover. They explain the meaning in the liner notes: The heart represents God, the thorns Jesus, and the flame is the Holy Spirit.
Pat Sullivan - - psull@ici.net
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 12:34:46 +0100 From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1016 Message-ID: <9510091134.AA15237@jason.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
Another album-with-same-title-as-song-on-different-album:
Paradise Lost's stunning new album 'Draconian Times' (their fifth) has a song called 'Shades of God', which is also the title of their third album.
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Date: Mon, 09 Oct 1995 07:20:00 -500 (EST) From: "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Subcon Insert Message-ID: <30790577.B99D.0059.000@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
>Hell, if anyone can post that insert or email it to me, I'd love to >know what it says.
Here it is... ================================================ DREAM THEATER SUBCONSCIOUS 1. Eve (5:21) Recorded live at the Limelight, New York City on March 4, 1993. This is the only time known of (that has been recorded) where Kevin Moore played the samples from James Joyce's Portrait of an Artist as a Young Man in concert. 2. A Change of Seasons (19:19) This was also recorded at the New York City Limelight show on March 4, 1993 -- one of the few times it has been played live with LaBrie on vocals. This 20 minute epic is slated for release later this year. 3. O Holy Night (4:10) This is one of the demos done with ex-frontman Charlie Domi nici at the helm. This song was a part of a few live shows during the Images and Words "Music In Progress" tour, and a version featuring LaBrie is expected to be released in the future. 4. Carry That Weight/Golden Slumbers (6:13) A demo of a Beatles song, recorded in 1988 with Charlie Domi nici on vocals. I suspect they were drunk when they did this one, because there was some drunken chatter before it that I had to cut out. 5. Don't Look Past Me (6:21) This is one of the original Majesty demos, and in this instance, would-be vocalist John Hendricks is singing it. It's really quite a good song, and Petrucci works part of the end melody around to make an excellent instrumental ending reminiscent of what appeared later on the Awake track, "Innocence Faded." 6. Wanted: Dead or Alive (5:08) Originally John Petrucci did the instrumental track of this Bon Jovi cover tune for one of his guitar students, and left the tape sitting around. Ex-keyboardist Kevin Moore stole it, and his roommate Rich Kern (also featured on the Kevin Moore demos) decided to make it a bit spicier, and is the "other" voice heard in the background. 7. To Live Forever (acoustic) (4:54) This track was originally recorded as one of the four songs for James LaBrie's vocal audition. The others were; Take The Time, Metropolis, and Under A Glass Moon. 8. The Gorilla Session (excerpts) (2:59) A home-recorded solo session by Petrucci. At this early juncture in his career, John has really little songwriting ability and consequently this track wanders quite a lot. 9. Mission: Impossible Theme (1:17) This song also made it into the live set occasionally on the "Music In Progress" Tour. Z-Rock uses this studio outtake on the air sometimes. 10. The Back Pain Jam (5:07) When Mike Portnoy's back went out at the 10/25/94 show in Toronto, Canada, Derek Sherinian and John Petrucci banged out this rare, never again played jam while Mike sat backstage with a chiropractor. 11. The Awake Heavy Jam (3:51) This rare instrumental was played between "The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun" and "Innocence Faded" -- before they left the setlist on the "Awake" tour. 12. Experimental (1:23) Once thought to be another solo Petrucci instrumental, possibly of him warming up before a show, this song was actually written and performed by John Myung. It's source, or why he wrote it, remains even now shrouded in mystery. 13. Tears (3:09) This is a Rush cover song, recorded live at the famous "Uncov ered" concert at Ronnie Scotts in London, England on January 31, 1995 14. Winter (2:23) A Tori Amos cover, also played live at the January 31, 1995 Ronnie Scotts' "Uncovered" gig. 15. Mystery track Compiled and Produced by Mike Bahr, garion@indirect.com March 1995 ====================================================
Hope that helped... Dan Temmesfeld s1133627@cedarville.edu
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 09:05:55 -0400 From: acook@tiac.net (acook) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Pantera Message-ID: <199510091305.JAA27926@zork.tiac.net>
> >All you guys who don't know what the LatM drum solo/ heavy guitar bit is, >need some help!!! It is from Pantera's Vulgar Display Album. THe song is >"By Demons be Driven". You guys reall yneed to check Pantera out!!!!!!!!!!! >I'm not realy a death metal fan at all, but I must admit, PANTERA IS THE DT >OF HEAVY/GROOVE/METAL MUSIC!!!! Seriously, I only listen to DT, but >Pantera, still kick me in the butt occasionally. > >If you guys think that the "Please dont go!" part of ACOS rules, check out >Any Pantera album! The entire album is "Please dont go"!!! Actually as >much as I like that part I gotta say htat many Pantera parts totally blow >that one away!!! Check out Vulgar Display of Power and expand your musical >tastes a little. I would definatly include PAntera as one of DT's >influences and I'm sure Mike P would too! >
I checked Pantera out a while ago, this band definitely has some major ups and downs. You're right that they can definitely groove, Vinnie Paul and Dimebag are good musicians for what they do. However, after the grooving part there are several things that annoy me about this band. One is obviously Phil Anselmo, his lyrics are sometimes disturbing. Check out "Good Friends and a Bottle of Pills" and you'll know what I mean. Also half the time when he sings it sounds like he's got a cat stuck in his throat. It's it's a shame too because he DOES have a good voice! Just listen to "Hollow" and you'll see how poor he treats his throat. Overall I can still get into the band if I want to hear some major riffage...also we don't "need some help" if we don't know what a part is. Also, how do you relate "Please don't go" to any pantera album?
adam
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 09:05:14 +0000 From: "Robert Quezada" <rquezada@monmouth.com> To: DRUNK BOY <dwinston@moose.uvm.edu> Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>, Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1015 Message-ID: <199510091310.JAA29247@shell.monmouth.com>
> please do not mail me a friend used my account and he wants this his > address is peter.bashkoian@castle.shore.net > please do not mail us with the ENTIRE digest list. This is SO annoying. If you did it by accident, please don't let it happen again. OK? Some people have to pay for e-mails they receive. Fortunately, I am not one of them.
This is an automated list. Every e-mail that is sent to that address gets sent to everyone on the list.
rq
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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 1995 13:33:21 +0100 (BST) From: "Mr R.J. Chinneck" <R.Chinneck@liverpool.ac.uk> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: J.J.Latore@liverpool.ac.uk (Jon Latore), Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1015 Message-ID: <199510091233.NAA02166@oak-34.liv.ac.uk>
In the last mail ytsejam@arastar.com said: > > YTSEJAM Digest 1015 > > Today's Topics: > > 1) Re: Please delete my name from your database. > by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb) > 2) New Releases Mailing List > by srvrip@qualcomm.com (John Hough) > 3) ACOS POLL > by srvrip@qualcomm.com (John Hough) > 4) other lists > by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb) > 5) Re: 7 string > by constabl@postoffice.ptd.net (Marc Contrady) > 6) Re: Ozric Tentacles > by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> > 7) Song & album titles > by 191547620@UCIS.VILL.EDU (Stefan T. Rau) > 8) Howard Wiener's 6:00 lyric interp. > by JamesArin@aol.com > 9) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1012 > by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> > 10) Trey's daily #'d (short) random DT thoughts > by tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen) > 11) Killing Hand Parody > by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> > 12) YJ #1007 etc. > by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> > 13) Re: Song & album titles > by Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com> > 14) Kid on ACoS > by aurora@wirehub.nl (Jan van Huizen) > 15) Keep DT underground? > by "Andrew Keith Garinger" <garinger@pilot.msu.edu> > 16) Re: demo liner notes/dub sites/posting the FAQ to YJ > by AirDance@aol.com > 17) Rush > by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass) > 18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1009 > by Nathan Dayspring <tsbileci@beta.loyno.edu> > 19) RE: Satrionics > by P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 20:39:44 +0800 > From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb) > To: ytsejam > Cc: BILLSPEC@aol.com > Subject: Re: Please delete my name from your database. > Message-ID: <9510080339.AA11354@anthor.arastar.com> > > > Please take me off the mailing list. > > Yet another example of "How *NOT* to follow instructions". > > As has been said before, do *NOT* send unsub requests to the list. > Send: > > unsub ytsejam > > to ytsejam-request@arastar.com with a subject of "asdf". > > -- > Ken Bibb "If the boundary breaks I'm no longer alone > kbibb@arastar.com Don't discourage me > jester@crash.cts.com Bring out the stars/On the first day" > David Sylvian--"The First Day" > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 20:55:09 -0700 > From: srvrip@qualcomm.com (John Hough) > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: New Releases Mailing List > Message-ID: <199510080355.UAA01579@wizard.qualcomm.com> > > > I forgot who posted it but someone wanted info on > the new releases mailing list. Here is the Email info > as well as where it is on the net, straight from the > list itself. > > E-MAIL SUBSCRIPTIONS: > - To receive this list via e-mail on a weekly basis (every Monday), > e-mail <new-releases-request@cs.uwp.edu> or <majordomo@cs.uwp.edu> with > only the following in the body of the message: subscribe new-releases > - To unsubscribe, e-mail <majordomo@cs.uwp.edu> with only the following > in the body of your message: unsubscribe new-releases > - To unsubscribe a different e-mail address than the one you are mailing > from, use the command: unsubscribe new-releases e-mail-address > > WWW: This list is available on the World Wide Web at various locations: > http://www.dsi.unimi.it/Users/Students/barbieri/home.html > http://nabalu.flas.ufl.edu/djemhome > http://www.cloud9.net/new-releases/ > http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~millert/new_releases.html > http://www.mcs.com/~jimkelly/html > > FTP: This list is available via anonymous FTP in the following locations: > ftp://ftp.uwp.edu/pub/music/releases > ftp://server.berkeley.edu/pub/music > ftp://ftp.mcs.com/mcsnet.users/jimkelly/infos > > Later all. > > ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ > John Hough > srvrip@qualcomm.com > > "Until I saw the desire for revenge, my heart never once went astray" > "As long as I have to die in the attempt, then there is no reason" > "To Live Forever" ---- Dream Theater > ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 20:55:11 -0700 > From: srvrip@qualcomm.com (John Hough) > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: ACOS POLL > Message-ID: <199510080355.UAA01582@wizard.qualcomm.com> > > Ok guys one more time. MKizer is still topping me > on responses, (although he is posting every other jam > it seems like!) I've only got aroung 50 responses. I > hope I can at least double this number this time. I > plan on posting the results sometime in the near > future so please get me as many responses as > possible. To all who have responded thank you very > much. Here are the questions one last time: > > 1. From 1 to 10, How do you rate ACOS? > > 2. Which section of ACOS do you like best? > (I,II,III,IV,V,VI, or VII) > > 3. Which cover tune is your favorite? (Please > be specific like "Funeral for a Friend", not > just Elton John.) > > Later everyone > > PS - Jason where's your response!!!???? > > ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ > John Hough > srvrip@qualcomm.com > > "Until I saw the desire for revenge, my heart never once went astray" > "As long as I have to die in the attempt, then there is no reason" > "To Live Forever" ---- Dream Theater > ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^ > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 21:05:06 +0800 > From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb) > To: bertapel@ucsu.colorado.edu > Cc: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: other lists > Message-ID: <9510080405.AA11521@anthor.arastar.com> > > > Hey, everyone, I'm interested in getting the addresses of any other > > lists you all are subscribed to. Especially interested in Van Halen, > [deleted] > > Why not just look them up in the List of Music Mailing Lists? > > B. HOW TO GET THIS DOCUMENT > > * E-MAIL > 1. 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This would allow the E to > be tuned down to B, A to E, etc. without a dramatic loss of string tension. > When Awake came out and I was learning Lie, Caught In a Web, and > Mirror, this is what I did, except I used heavy guage for the E, tuning it > down to B, and heavy guage for the A, tuning it down to E or F# ( for that > "dropped D type feeling only with a B"). I still kept the D,G,B,and high E > the same. This wasn't too bad because all the parts in Lie that used the A > string could be done on a different string without too much effort. > If I remember correctly, when Caught in a Web was transcribed in one > of the guitar books, it was transcribed on a six-string with E tuned to B > and A tuned to F#. > This is cool to experiment with. Although using all heavy guage > strings and tuning down all strings will constitute a loss of the high E. > > Any comments, questions, criticisms, feel free to reply. > > Marc Contrady > (waiting for my Acoustic Dreams) > > (I think this is how you spell guage?) > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 21:47:56 -0700 (PDT) > From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: Re: Ozric Tentacles > Message-ID: <199510080447.AA19498@crl7.crl.com> > > Someone asked about Ozric Tentacles -- I'd recommend the live release > LIVE UNDERSLUNKY. It's an import and hard to get in this country -- > I suggest sending email to ranjit@netcom.com (my source), or contact > your favorite obtainer of rare antiquities. :) I can't -wait- for > these guys to return for a live show.... > > > > -- > +--- Paul W. Cashman vanyel@crl.com http://www.crl.com/~vanyel ---+ > | Rush * Robert Jordan * Queensryche * Michael Moorcock * Metallica | > | James P. Hogan * Dream Theater * Robert Heinlein * NIN * Dead | > | Can Dance * Mercedes Lackey * Blue Oyster Cult * Raymond Feist....| > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1995 23:46 EST > From: 191547620@UCIS.VILL.EDU (Stefan T. Rau) > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: Song & album titles > Message-ID: <m0t1miH-00002cC@donews.cts.com> > > > Greetings, all..... > > Someone was asking about songs that have the same titles as albums other than > the one they're on.....I'm not sure if this really counts, but.... > They Might Be Giants released their self-titled debut album in 1986, but > the song "They Might Be Giants" ended up on their third album, Flood. I > still think it would've been really cool if the band, the album, and the > song all had the same name....but then again, I'm easily amused......:-) > > --Sven > > P.S. Am I the only one on this list that absolutely loves TMBG?? They're > nothing at all like DT, so I wouldn't necessarily recommend them, but still > very cool...... > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 00:20:28 -0400 > From: JamesArin@aol.com > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: Howard Wiener's 6:00 lyric interp. > Message-ID: <951008002028_118742876@emout06.mail.aol.com> > > Howard I remember when Awake first came out I read an interview w/ JP about > the new album. When asked how long the band knew that Kevin was leaving John > said that the lyrics in 6:00 were Kevs way of saying he needed to follow his > own path. After seeing this I went back and read the lyrics and it almost > caused tears to flow. John also said that Innocence Faded was his way of > telling Kev that he felt Kev was growing apart from the rest of the group. > > 6:00 > "Finally found the sound but he's in too deep" - The HE is Kevin and the > SOUND is Kevs new direction i.e. his demos. > "Feel like blowing my cover" - Kevin wants to tell the band he needs to move > on. > Read all the lyrics in this song from this view and it fits. > > Innocence Faded > "Passionless stage Distant like brothers" - John saying he sees Kevin isn't > realy into it any more. > > Jim Colberg (RWYW-STR Read What You Want- Skip The Rest) :^) > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 01:52:03 -0400 (EDT) > From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1012 > Message-ID: <199510080552.BAA12792@umbc9.umbc.edu> > > Please be sure to let us all know if anyone finds out any info on this > DT/Qryche show in DC!!!! That would be the SHIT!!! > > I wonder who would open? (I'm sure you can guess who *I* would pick.) > Even if it was a dual headlining thing, like 2hours each, I still wouldn't > wanna see DT 1st and then be let down a bit by Qryche. Maybe they > could both set up and play together like a dualing banjo thing!!! > I don't think even Wilton and DeGarmo together could keep up with some > of Johns playing!! :) Geoff could sing some harmonies with James, that > would be pretty cool! (I still think echolyn should have come out and > sang the backup vox on Take the Time). > > BTW - anyone have the lyrics to Cry For Freedom? (And yes, it DOES have > lyrics, I just can't make them out when Chris Collins is singing cause most > of it is beyond the range of the human ear). > > Also, any James' fans should check out some Winter Rose stuff (his previous > band, in case you didn't know). I was listening to a live tape the > other day and he was excellent!! Very smooth and possibly even a higher > range than he has now! Anyone know if they have any studio material > or even studio demos? I only know of 1 or 2 live shows. > > BTW - James said Fuck at the Winter Rose show too. :) > > > -- > ************************************************************************** > * Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu * > * * > * You're fighting the weight of the world, * > * and no one can save you this time. * > * Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. * > * * > * "Take the Time" - Dream Theater * > ************************************************************************** > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 8 Oct 95 02:55:02 -0400 > From: tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen) > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: Trey's daily #'d (short) random DT thoughts > Message-ID: <9510080655.AA10243@junix.ju.edu> > > 1) > >>You know, I don't think I could live very well without Dream Theater > >>music. Don't worry, I'm not getting suicidal or anyhting, it's just > >>that it's so much more than just notes. It means more to me than any > >>other music. > > > >Get a grip Ben Laussade! Life will deal you cards that are much harder > >to play than that. > > Bull Mike C.! In my opinion my life would be horrible if someone denied me > my DT rights! I am being totally honest this isn't a joke...(notice no > smile face) > > 2) > >If african > >Americans would stop acting like victims of society perhaps they would > >cease to become as such. > Great thought Mike C! > > 3) > Does anyone know the time (numbers not signature) in ACOS when the metronome > can be heard. Someone posted about that and I didn't right it down (thought > I could remember :) > > 4) > >i taped the > > portnoy drum clinic in houston on DAT. amazing sound. i asked about a > > possible tape tree for it and got absolutely no response, so i guess no > > no one cares > > Well I tried to get a DT boot tape tree or dub site list going also and > noone mailed me the boots they had and were willing to dub. Its not my loss > though (except for hte fact that I feel personally responsible to shrare DT > to every open ear). I have fairly many boots and was just trying to make it > easier to let others enjoy them also. > > 5) > Comeono guys lets get the time line DT song giudes going! (The minutes of DT > songs where interesting things happen.) Ben Laussade is going to do 6:00. > I think an appropriate one to would be Ytsejam...what do you say. Any > comments welcome and I am sure if you have any thought about 6:00, Ben > (laussade@enet.net) would appriciate them (hope you dont mind Ben) > > 6) Edit your DT page to help people! > >Hello, I saw your mailing list on the net and I would like to take part > >in it, so you can you please give me the information I need to get on the > >mailing list?? > > > > Guys this really SUCKS. I'm glad we are getting new members, but they > should know how to subscribe. And how are they going to do that? You must > tell them how to on your web page. Include this in your html DT page to > have the person send mail directly to ytsejam-request@arastar.com in order > to subscribe. Just copy and paste the stuff between the doted lines. > > ------------------------------------ > <h3>To send mail to subscribe to the Dream Theater Ytsejam mailing list, > click on the address below. Make sure the subject of your message is; <pre> > asdf > and the body of the text reads; > SUBSCRIBE YTSEJAM "put your first name here" "and your last name here" > </pre> > <a > href="mailto:ytsejam-request@arastar.com"><tt>ytsejam-request@arastar.com</t > t></a> > ---------------------------------------- > > 7) > Does anyone have any parts of ytsejam transcribed? Especially any of hte > sols? (guitar and/or keys) > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > "...Every day there's a constant reminder of all the pleasures we shared > together. Love is not just a passing word, it's a state of heart that goes > on forever..." (Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater) > > Trey Allen - tallen@junix.ju.edu - > http://junix.ju.edu/UsrWebPages/tallen/home.html > _____________________________________________________________________________ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 02:08:49 -0700 (PDT) > From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> > To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> > Subject: Killing Hand Parody > Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.951008015550.38168C-100000@homer20.u.washington.edu> > > > > JAMES PEELE, > > What the hell possesed you to come up with those idiotic lyrics. > > You're the KILLING HAND you BRONCO. Get a life SOCK. Stop wasting my > > time with your bullshit letters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just kidding. > > the one person > who shouldn't have found any humor > in your lyrics > whatsoever > > laughed out loud > along with > everyone else. > > :) > > > > Bafu Vai > > > > p.s. just a joke, are we cool guys? just a joke? don't flood the list with > angry replies to drown me? > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 03:25:03 -0700 (PDT) > From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> > To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> > Subject: YJ #1007 etc. > Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.951008022436.38168E-100000@homer20.u.washington.edu> > > To Brian V. Cox: > > >i suggest you grab a guitar, hit the open E, and keep hitting it during > >that intro. you will find that there is alot of stuff happening below > >that :) > > HA! I'll have to write that one down... > > ---------- > To Richard Karsmakers: > > Yes, such a "guide" would be helpful, but it would also be a lot of work. > Don't expect all the jammers to flock to such an idea. I can tell without > even thinking about it that it would take hours just to do I&W. And then > we'd have people arguing over technicalities just like they do when people > put lyrics/tab on the Jams. Even the transcribers (Jammers with all the > time in the world on their hands) gave no feedback. Usually I jump at > questions like "what is Petrucci playing right here?" But what you > suggested is a monumental project that would take a lot of people. If it > happens at all, it's not going to happen overnight. > > ---------- > To Jeffrey Furry: > > Interesting review. I have to disagree with that part about the key > changes. The author would have us believe, and I quote: > > "M>2!I;B!W:&EC:"!O;F4@:V5Y(&1E=F5L;W!M96YT(&EN(&]U<B!M=7-I8V%L > M(&AI<W1O<GD*:&%P<&5N960@9&EF9F5R96YT;'DN("!4:&4@<&]I;G0@;VX@ > M+7!R;V<@97AC97-S+B @26X*;W5R('5N:79E<G-E+"!T:&ES('5P<FES:6YG" > > When we all know that sort of thing is more Myung's background than > Portnoy's. > > ---------- > My contribution to a current thread: > > "Rock"/"Metal" bands I was into before DT: > Extreme, Alice In Chains, Pantera, Van Halen, Queensryche, Firehouse, > King's X, Mr. Big, Stone Temple Pilots, Metallica, Racer X, Winger, etc. > > Bands I was exposed to due to DT: > Fates Warning, Rush, Pink Floyd, Marillion, Magellan, Galactic Cowboys. > > Bands I actually got into after listening to DT: > Galactic Cowboys. > > DT influences/contemporaries that I can't stand: > Rush, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Iron Maiden, Marillion, Magellan, Fates > Warning. > > And now that I've stepped on millions of toes, on to the next blurb. > > ---------- > > Okay, Fates has other albums, and due to numerous e-mails lately, I'm > probably going to purchase "Perfect Symmetry" sometime this month. > > Speaking of Fates, I'd like to mention that when I joined this list, I had > never heard of Fates Warning. All I heard here was, "If you like DT, > you'll like FW." Then I saw DT at The Moore Theater in Seattle with FW > opening, and everyone in line said, "They're just like DT." I remember > that show like it was yesterday... > > They began with "Monument," and I didn't like it. As for the whole show, > one guitarist had a lot of inaudible rhythm parts, the other was covering > so many scales that no amount of volume or eq in the world would have made > him clearer, but I could tell by his fingerings that he would probably > sound really good on an album in a quiet room. The bassist and vocalist > were cool, and I could understand all the words being sung, unlike that > other vocalist we talk about so much on this list. > > The one fellow I noticed more than the others was the drummer, even though > as The Drummer he wasn't able to move around the stage like the others. > He looked kind of monstrous, and had a very noticeable "presence." Anyway, > this guy was hitting every single piece of his kit like he had an > important meeting to go to right after whichever song he happened to be > playing. Either that or he REALLY had to get to a bathroom. Movement-wise, > he reminded me of the Tasmanian Devil. I mean, you could count to ten, and > every cymbal in front of him would be swinging, struck at least once. > > That might work in a solo, but he was busy ALL THE TIME. His playing was > wild. Too wild to fit in as a member of a band. Pardon me for not knowing > who he was: Mark Zonder, drum god extraordinaire. My impression was that > he was incohesive and all over the place. Skilled, yes, but doing too > much. > > Well, FW didn't sound "just like DT." I bought Inside Out just in case > that show was a bad night or something. "Outside Looking In" was the only > song I liked, and I didn't flip over the heralded "Monument." Like I said, > I'm going to pick up Perfect Symmetry to give them another try. > > Now I'd like to name the band that I think FW sounds exactly like on > Inside Out: Queensryche. > > ---------- > > For those who asked, I heard "Counterparts," "Chronicles," and "Roll The > Bones." The Rush fans I talked to said RTB was a "disappointing" Rush > album, and that the band "really took a left turn." Can the Rush fans on > this list explain what that means? I will say that the inlay booklet for > "Counterparts" was masterfully put together. An awful lot of thought went > into it. > > One of these days I'm going to just conform and post what I dislike about > DT. > > > Bafu Vai > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 11:28:10 -0400 (EDT) > From: Andrew Keegan <akeegan@liii.com> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> > Subject: Re: Song & album titles > Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951008112600.7649B-100000@oak.liii.com> > > > > > On Sun, 8 Oct 1995, Stefan T. Rau wrote: > > > They Might Be Giants released their self-titled debut album in 1986, but > > the song "They Might Be Giants" ended up on their third album, Flood. I > > still think it would've been really cool if the band, the album, and the > > song all had the same name....but then again, I'm easily amused......:-) > > > > > Which brings up another question. What albums have been released where > the band, the album, and a song all have the same name?? > > I can think of a few. > > Andy > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 13:58:49 GMT > From: aurora@wirehub.nl (Jan van Huizen) > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: Kid on ACoS > Message-ID: <199510081358.NAA08155@nec1.wirehub.nl> > > Hi everyone, > > Last week I watched Oliver Stone's SF series Wild Palms, and there I noticed > a very > familiar looking boy. Indeed, I think it's the boy on the cover on ACoS. His > name is > BEN SAVAGE, and he plays the role of Cody Wyckoff, the son of Harry Wyckoff, who > is played by James Belushi. > > So I think the problem is solved, it's not MP on the album ! He doesn't > really look him, > does he ? > > See ya, > (--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------) > " Likely or not, it's a dream that we keep > and at odds with our senses we'll climb > But if faith is the answer, we're already reached it > and if spirit's a sign, then it's only a matter of time " > > Kevin Moore, 1989 > > ----[ The Silent Man ]----- > > (--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------) > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 11:11:43 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Andrew Keith Garinger" <garinger@pilot.msu.edu> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam Mailing List) > Subject: Keep DT underground? > Message-ID: <199510081511.LAA41957@pilot01.cl.msu.edu> > > I disagree with the person who wants to keep DT underground. If you > get tired of listening to the same things over and over on eMpTytV and the > radio, turn them off! I almost never listen to the radio and I only watch > MTV every other week or so when 120 Minutes is on. Everyone whines and > complains about how repetitive radio is, but they keep on listening. > Just turn it off and listen to your DT collection. If the unwashed masses > want to turn your favorite band into a trend, let them. I think DT can > withstand the pressures of popularity. They obviously know who their real > fans are and I am doing everything I can to get people interested in new > bands like DT. Just read my sig file! :) Ok, I'll stop now. He just hit > one of my "buttons". > > Later, > Andrew > > P.S. Replies and intelligent disagreement welcome. > > -- > Andrew Garinger > ZBT BE > Certified DT Fanatic > Subcon #254 > Acoustic Dreams #60 > > I do dubs! Just mail me at garinger@pilot.msu.edu for details. > > (No, DT most certainly does NOT stand for Delerium Tremens!!! Haven't you ever > heard of Dream Theater?) > > Discover a new band today! Boycott "alternative" radio! Spread the word! > DreamTheaterBadReligionALLDescendentsChinaDrum311SeedHumFretblanketLowPopSuicide > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 11:40:34 -0400 > From: AirDance@aol.com > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: Re: demo liner notes/dub sites/posting the FAQ to YJ > Message-ID: <951008114033_118892476@emout06.mail.aol.com> > > Hey everyone, > > On Thursday, Oct. 5th, Kyle Mallett <krm95g@timon.acu.edu> wrote: > > "Somebody was king enough to copy the Kevin Moore demos for me, but neglected > to write the song titles down. Could some kind individual please post the > song list? Thanks in advance." > > I've e-mailed the information to him (in case anyone was wondering :). > > > On Friday, Oct. 6th, Johnny Mastin <Johnny@motown.ge.com> wrote: > > "Please take me off of the Kevin Moore dubs list." > > Done. Thanks for helping out, Johnny, and good luck with the new job! > > To any dub sites who are reading this, I would _greatly_ appreciate it in the > future if and when you want/need to close, please *e-mail* me to make > absolutely sure that I know. (I almost overlooked Johnny's post because the > subject heading wasn't specifically about dub sites, whoops!!) > > > On Friday, Oct. 6th, our good friend Ken Bibb <kbibb@qualcomm.com> wrote, IRT > posting the FAQ to the list on a monthly basis: > > "Unfortunately, it will be ignored (airdance would probably vouch for that). > Heck, I would guess that most subscribers ignored their welcome message (at > least from the most of the sub/unsub requests that I see ;)" > > Agreed, unfortunately. Are we the only people who actually read those silly > welcome messages, Ken? ;) And I even *save* those suckers for future > reference, EEK!! :^) > > Again, if anyone else needs the lyrics or liner notes for the KM demos, > e-mail me a request! > > > Take care everyone, > > Jennifer > <airdance@aol.com> > Vicky Pratt Keating tour dates: > Oct. 11 - Eddie's Attic (9pm) - Decatur, GA > Oct. 14 - Blue Ridge Heritage Festival - Front Royal, VA > Oct. 18 - Virginia Western College (11:30am) - Roanoke, VA > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 12:17:47 -0400 > From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass) > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: Rush > Message-ID: <v01530500ac9da8e9160c@[199.232.46.229]> > > > A couple months ago I got Rush's "Moving Pictures" and > > "2112". I was thoroughly unimpressed. About 20 minutes > > ago, I popped 2112 into my CDRom drive on my computer (which > > has a great speaker system) and was kinda like "Whoa", > > trying to figure out what I hadn't liked about it the first > > time. My opinion of Rush has completely changed in the last > > 20 minutes. They're rather awesome. > > Being a giant Rush fan, I can kinda relate to that. Power Windows is > probably my favorite Rush album but when I got it, I didn't like it much. I > kept listening and it became my favorite. I'm glad that you gave them > another chance and like 'em now. You probably noticed that those two albums > are somewhat different from each other. That's the way with most Rush > albums. Individually, there's a common theme and/or sound but it's > different from previous albums. You should check out Power Windows and > Counterparts! > > +----------------------------------------------------------+ > | Marc Respass mer@sol.iii.net | > | http://www.iii.net/users/mer/ | > +==========================================================+ > | Check out the Joel Rivard Group home page at | > | http://www.iii.net/users/mer/joelpage.html | > +----------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 12:29:07 +0000 (GMT) > From: Nathan Dayspring <tsbileci@beta.loyno.edu> > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1009 > Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.951008121751.2436E-100000@beta.loyno.edu> > > Hi, first I want to say that I'm new to the list, though I've been a > Dream Theater fan for well over a year. Since I'm new, I might bring up > some things already mentioned. If that's the case, just ignore me (just > don't feed upon my misery or string me up for all the world to see). <G> > > Did anyone notice that Mike Portnoy's picture on inside of the jacket for > ACOS looks like Ringo Starr? > > I'd also like to comment on the intro/outro controversy for ACOS. > Something I've found with Dream Theater is that when they put something > in their music, there's a purpose for it. There's a REASON the song > begins and ends with the same acoustic chords. Think about the name of > the song: A Change of Seasons. Now look how the seasons change during the > year. It's a never ending cycle qith no real beginning or end. The > seasons go from winter to spring to summer to fall and back to winter > where the cycle repeats itself. > > Now, if you have a CD player with REPEAT (I'm sure most do), set ACOS on > repeat. You hear the outro, which leads into the intro. Then you have a > cycle of seasons just like the seasons from year to year. > > > Paul > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 8 Oct 1995 18:39:00 +0100 > From: P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk > To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com > Subject: RE: Satrionics > Message-ID: <"3620*/I=P/S=McLoughlin/OU=bra0108/O=icl/PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS> > > --1caSmq3Scl3xrxj7R2kmxb9PoZeKGzYu > Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > A few jams back someone slammed the new Satriani CD. I was > nervous of listening to it after that, held it for 5 days before > I made time (still having ACOS to love), and tapes to make for > other (now happy) jammers. I like to spread the pleasure of > discovering my new music, so loaded 'Joe Satriani' on Friday > evening. I have, and love to pieces, all Joe's albums. >>> > > --1caSmq3Scl3xrxj7R2kmxb9PoZeKGzYu > Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > > > > > > Although I love the big rockers on 'The Extremist' and the later > work on 'Time Machine' (which was a sort of compilation of > unreleased work from 1983 - 1993 - hence 'Time Machine'), I was > hoping for something different this time. > > Well, as soon as I heard the first track I thought > > 'He's done it ! Just what I wanted ! > > My allowance for the evening was just three tracks 1,4 8 all of > which I loved, bringing my usual comment - reserved for Joe - > > 'That was Wonderful !' > > So, my advice is : listen to this album with a new ear and a new > mind, do not expect it to be the same as the last one or two. That > is not what 'Satrionics' is about. We expect something new from DT > each time so why not from Joe. > > PS1. About the sad news of AWAKE 'in the bin', I assume you mean > second hand - I was very sad when I went to Burbank during my > California (dreamin') holiday and found 5 copies of AWAKE in the > second hand section there - $7.99-$8.99. > > PS2 When I visited THE DREAM THEATER in Monterey I took some pics. > I am hoping to get a friend to scan one to a .bmp file which I can > mail to the US for someone to distribute there. > > PS3 I still have ytses 962 - 988 to catch up on since my holiday ! > > Going home now to hear ACOS then 3 more tracks from 'Joe Satriani' > > PS4: Has anyone out there, especially in LA, heard of > Marc Bonilla ? He is another great guitarist. I would love > some news of him. > > PS5: I am glad other jammers agree with me about not using > Mercy Fxxx. > Patricia > > > --1caSmq3Scl3xrxj7R2kmxb9PoZeKGzYu-- > > > ------------------------------ > > End of YTSEJAM Digest 1015 > ************************** >
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