YTSEJAM Digest 1005
Today's Topics:
1) mi lengua...
by MATTHEW D PASTOR <S_MDPASTOR@vaxa.clarion.edu>
2) Re: 7 STRING ACCOUSTIC
by Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
3) Damn The Machine news
by aurora@wirehub.nl (Jan van Huizen)
4) NEW ALBUM ACoS
by richard@capitale.qc.ca (Richard James)
5) Thanks and also... I just want to know...
by Chris Crowder <jccrowder@postman.harding.edu>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1002
by "Jonathan Byrne" <RRI02@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU>
7) Re: (U)ARGH!!
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
8) Re: Non DT - Joe Satriani
by edju@scf.usc.edu (Edward Ju)
9) Let me introduce myself....
by Fblock@monmouth.com (fblock)
10) Bad Reviews, ect
by Mad dog <jmh@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
11) First post
by swb2@Lehigh.EDU (Swarup Bandyopadhyay)
12) DT Boot CDs (Updated Prices)
by Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
13) jam 999
by dief@vt.edu (Brian K. Diefenderfer)
14) No ACOS this time?
by sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
15) PEACE
by JIMMY <bd30011@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu>
16) Kevin Moore vs. John Petrucci, who's the better lyricist?
by arom@capital.edu (Aaron Rom)
17) Translation of .sig
by KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
18) Stuff
by euan@waikato.ac.nz (Euan Kilgour)
19) Acoustic Dreams review
by John Nguyen <nuprin@wichita.fn.net>
20) DT
by Styles <styles@crow.cybercomm.net>
21) *** New DT Song Book Available ***
by mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
22) Re: No like rush?
by Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 14:20:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: MATTHEW D PASTOR <S_MDPASTOR@vaxa.clarion.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: mi lengua...
Message-ID: <951004142013.21e2aef4@vaxa.clarion.edu>
The quote "mi lengua...." is from the Steve Vai album, "Passion and Warfare".
At the time, Steve was in Whitesnake and he wanted the guys to appear on the
album in one way or another. So he carried around a DAT machine and asked
Rudy Sarzo (the one who said the quote) to say something in Spanish. so,
that was the first thing that came to his mind. It means "My toungue, My tounge(something) of my mouth" I can't remember the middle part, but you get the idea.
Sorry that this is a non DT post, but I thought the parties involved might be
interested.
A new DT bootleg has surfaced. It was recorded in Japan. It is a video that
was recorded right after the earthquake occured that the band mentions in the
liner of acos. During the concert, James requests 15 seconds of silence for
the earthquake victims. After 15 seconds, the band starts right into "Silent
Man". Very, very cool. It was broadcast over Japanese TV and is
professionally shot. The set list is the same as the "Awake" tour in the U.S.
Alas, I have yet to see this tape, my best friend called me last night about
the big news. I can't wait to see it.
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 14:55:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Stephen Bajzek <MadMax+@CMU.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: 7 STRING ACCOUSTIC
Message-ID: <skQhWHm00iV485h9dx@andrew.cmu.edu>
>So guys, what's your favorite Dream theater solo? My pesonal favorite is
>the one from scarred, right before they start the "blood...heal me, fear
>change me" for the second time, where it ends with messy sweep picking
>... that's mine. i love it! Iworship it! <Bow down to God Petrucci!>
My favorites: A Fortune in Lies, Lie, pretty much any of the solos in
Learning to Live, and that one after To Live Forever on the Live in
Tokyo video.
-Max
Anton Max
Keyboards, Aepithex
MadMax+@cmu.edu
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:51:44 GMT
From: aurora@wirehub.nl (Jan van Huizen)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Damn The Machine news
Message-ID: <199510041951.TAA19187@nec1.wirehub.nl>
Hello,
This is actually the first time I write something down on the Ytsejam
mailing list.
I've got some news on Damn The Machine. Althought it's not fresh, I would
like to
post it anyway for all you DTM fans out there.
In a metal magazine here in Holland (it's called Aardschok, simply
'Earthshake' in
Dutch) in issue 6 (June 1995) I read the following news that Chris Poland
got a new
band together called MUMBO'S TRAIN (Damn The Machine was a much better name,
anyway). This band also features Chris' brother Mark on drums and Dave Randy on
bass. So this is really DTM without singer/guitarist Dave Clemmons.
Hopefully they
will get a much better singer. If you checked this CD out (if it's already
out) just put it
on the list.
See ya,
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" Likely or not, it's a dream that we keep
and at odds with our senses we'll climb
But if faith is the answer, we're already reached it
and if spirit's a sign, then it's only a matter of time "
Kevin Moore, 1989
----[ The Silent Man ]-----
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 15:39:44 +0500
From: richard@capitale.qc.ca (Richard James)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: richard@jason
Subject: NEW ALBUM ACoS
Message-ID: <9510041939.AA03501@jason.qc.ca>
after listening to the song ACoS, now i can die
the best song i ever heard.
if somebody knows a better song please tell me
i just hope that the next album is gonna be like that.
at least one song with different parts and not a song
with 3 songs (a mind besides itself: 1 -erotomania
2 -voices
3 - ??? )
i have the version of "the dance of eternity" and
i prefer the new one except for the 3rd intrumental part
the bass at the beginning is missing
long live to long songs.
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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 1995 15:09:59 CDT
From: Chris Crowder <jccrowder@postman.harding.edu>
To: YTSEJAM@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Thanks and also... I just want to know...
Message-ID: <009975F3.EF867700.89@postman.harding.edu>
I posted a request for help in finding Live at the Marquee on Ytsejam 1002
and already, the day it was sent, I have received three responses. That's
awesome! I am glad to find people other than my best friend that are also avid
Dream Theater fans!
For the - I just want to know - portion of the letter...
Number 1:
I am going to run a survey, and I know that with this group of subscribers
I am sure to get responses. I am going to ask two questions and on October the
11th, one week from today, I will post the results. One has to do with Dream
Theater and the oother doesn't. Here we go...
Question 1: Do you agree with the O.J. verdict?
(a simple Yes, No, Don't Know, or Who's O.J.? will be sufficient)
Question 2: Which Dream Theater album is your all-time favorite?
(i'll go ahead and say it, mine is Images and Words..I just can't
(get tired of it!)
Well, that's all for now...
To respond, E-mail me at:
<jccrowder@harding.edu>
Once again, the results will be sent in to the ytsejam on wednesday to be posted
on the next list.
Can't wait to hear from you.
Adios,
Chris Crowder, a loyal Dream Theater fan!
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 16:02:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Jonathan Byrne" <RRI02@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU>
To: "YtseJam" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1002
Message-ID: <m0t0aC6-00000PC@crash.cts.com>
For our 14 year old jammer: Just curious, but do you have older siblings? I
have two brothers that are 11 and 13 years older then me, respectively (I'm
21). They introduced me to a lot of good music that was far from popular
then and now. Because of them I heard old Genesis, Yes, ELP, you name it.
BTW, it was one of them who also introduced me to DT!
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"Could you point me to the nearest trend, Jonathan Byrne
I'm lost, with no clue. West Virginia University
I could change directions, rri02@wvnvm.wvnet.edu
to stay with the current
It all depends on the flow."
-"Audio Verite", Echolyn
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 95 13:07:10 PDT
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: (U)ARGH!!
Message-ID: <9510042007.AA10954@tengs1.teng>
> Can anyone e-mail me directly with explanations of
> the DT "symbol?" I just can't seem to figure it out and it's been 13 months
> since my intro to the group. Thanks!!! LATER-
Perhaps, if the FAQ was posted to the group [say] once a
month, questions like this wouldn't have to be asked. Some
people don't have time to surf the 'net looking for it.
Zach (how's that for a short post Mr. Borland !>\>
FYI:
3.2 What does the "symbol" DT uses mean?
The "symbol" can be seen on the IAW disc, on the IAW cover on top of the
bed, on the WDADU cover, etc. It is the letter "M" of "MAJESTY" in a stylized
font, says Portnoy. It was once used by Mary Queen of Scots.
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 13:39:35 -0700
From: edju@scf.usc.edu (Edward Ju)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Non DT - Joe Satriani
Message-ID: <199510042039.NAA25556@chaph.usc.edu>
>From: Mike Patrick <mpatrick@netusa1.net>
>Hey, I know SOMEONE will score the new Satriani on Tuesday (I think it's
>new, although 'Joe Satriani' is not a very lively title). Anyway could
>someone let me know if Stu Hamm is on it? Correction, ALL OVER IT? I'll be
>slow to get it if Stu is nowhere to be found.
You mean this coming Tuesday... unfortunately, Stu Hamm and Jonathan
Mover won't be on the new album. Nathan East played most of the bass on the
new CD, so did the drummer of Peter Gabriel. The Bisonette brothers did a
couple of tracks I think.
Haven't heard anything new from Stu since his did Frank Gambale's album
a few years ago...
Eddie
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 16:53:34 -0400
From: Fblock@monmouth.com (fblock)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Let me introduce myself....
Message-ID: <199510042053.QAA11754@shell.monmouth.com>
Well....Here I am...Been reading the jam for a week now and this
shall be my first post. I REFUSE to bore all of you so I will get to it. :)
1> How I got into DT: A Long time ago in a galaxy far,far away...(OOOPS!
Wrong list for that one!! Big Starwars fan too!) I was cruisin' with a good
friend of mine who had some different tastes in music than I did. Everytime
he got a new album from some band I have never heard of he would
say,"Dude...Ya gotta check out this new CD from this cool band!", and I
would fall prey to some good and bad stuff. One day we were goin' to the
beach to meet up with some friends and hang out (Seaside Hights for those
who know New Jersey) and he had this new cd from a band called...well...you
know. From the SECOND Pull me under started I FREAKED! It was awsome and it
was the only CD i heard for like 2 months!! I was a radio jock for a local
college and played them all the time too! Well...That is my story.
2> ACoS: It has got to be the greatest cover album ever done. Excelent as is
Awake, but I still like I&W the best.
3> I am interested in finding some boots. I have LATM and a two cd set live
from Italy. Any ideas?
4> I live in central New Jersy and would like to know where I can check out
the band locally to me. I missed out on a show that was local last month or
so I heard. :( Will go to NY or PA with company if I can tag along. :)
Tried not to be boring....Probably ended up that way. :) Will be hearing
from me more often!!
Fred
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== Coming to ya from the Jersey Shore, Another BIG DT FAN!!!!!!!!!! ==
== ==
== "I look at the world and see no understanding." ==
== "I fell in love to be let down." ==
== "It can only take place if the struggle between our children has ended." ==
== ==
==---------fblock@monmouth.com - Also on MEDIEVIA (MUD) as BOSSMAN-----------==
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 13:16:59 -0700 (MST)
From: Mad dog <jmh@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Bad Reviews, ect
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.951004123727.8582C-100000@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu>
> From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu>
> Subject: Fickett
> wrote was not a review. It was a blatant, vicious attack on a genre of
> music with DT merely being the vehicle for him to express his frustration.
FICKETT WROTE:
F> But the
F>end result is an uninspired and long (the first song is 24 minutes)
F>repetition of a musical form that was thouroughly exhausted by more
F>talented people long ago. The rest of the album removes the thinly
F>veiled attempts at creativity with covers of such incredible artists as
F>Kansas, Depp Purple, and Journey.
It wasnt an attack at the entire genre, at least not historically. What
he says is that DT is not doing anything that hasnt been done before, ie
classic progressive bands have done similar things for a while. Jason is
saying that the progressive music should be a closed set. I do disagree
with this, I find the current prog-ish stuff by DT, Yes, Marillion, ect
incredible. Anyways, he calls Kansas, Deep Purple and Journey "incredible
artists", though this may not be entirely meant as complimentary...
> is coming from). What I fail to understand is the relevance of the artwork
> and photography to the quality of an album.
The artwork hasnt a thing to do with how the album sounds. He is using
the artwork to give more insight on DT, he calls them "unfathomably
pretentious" and uses the artwork to try to defend this. Anyways, its not
like he dwells on the artwork... I mean there have been plenty of
discussions of the artwork here on the 'jam... not to imply that its the
same thing...
> He blames them for being able to play their instruments?
FICKETT WROTE:
F>Admittedly, all of the members of DT know how to play their instruments,
F>and they do neat tricks with tempo, scales, and all that shit. But the
I dont read this as attacking DT for being good musicians. He grants that
the members of DT can play very well, tempo changes, ect. He just doesn't
like the "end result", as quoted above.
> Well, I hope one day Fickett writes a shitty
> review of me; that way I'll know that I'm putting out quality stuff. In
> short, I don't take him seriously, because his writing is a joke. Just my
> opinion.
To conclude, I think that it was good that he reviewed the album at all,
as opposed to ignoring it completely, for that reason. No matter how
negative of a review it was, it let people know that DT had a new album
out. Rain King wrote on this basic topic, so I will conclude with this.
If the person who wrote the review of the Fates Warning albums had said
the same basic things about _Perfect Symmetry_ but saying that this
turned him off, I would probabaly still want to run out and buy the album...
Anyways, I promise to stop going on about this topic, and to stop talking
about James on the covers, as long as there's nothing really new added to
the conversation, I'm sure that I've taken up quite enuff bandwidth...
to Chris DiGiuseppe <digius23@potsdam.edu>, I tried to send the bad
review to the above address, but it got returned, so if you don't get any
other copies of the review, contact me and we'll try to find some other
way if you want a copy of the infamous review...
One more answer to the trivia question that hasnt been said yet:
Joe Satriani's _Dreaming #11_, a 1988 ep, and a song on the 1984 _Joe
Satriani_ ep...
A "Mad dog shaven head bottle boy Freak" aka John Haveman
"D'accord je t'adore, au revoir, au revoir!"
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I crawl to you, With ten fingers smoking, From turning the pages of sin
With my spirit choking, From earning the wages of sin,
A bridge away from justified, a step away from whole,
Restore my soul... - _restore my soul_ - Steve Hindalong
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 16:58:46 -0400
From: swb2@Lehigh.EDU (Swarup Bandyopadhyay)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: First post
Message-ID: <199510042058.QAA78064@nss2.CC.Lehigh.EDU>
Hello fellow Jammers!
I've been getting ytsejam since last semester but this is my first
post to the list. I absolutely love this place. I guess I first got into
DT when my friend lent me I&W. I was huge into Rush then and he said that
they were like Rush on crack, so I gave it a try and ever since I've been
huge fan. I know ACOS came out like two weeks ago but I want to my $.02
about it. My first impression of it was that it was a masterpiece. But
after listening to it A LOT I liked parts on Subcon a lot better (namely The
Crimson Sunset; gotta love DON'T GO!!) But the riff at 18:36 makes up for
that and the missing "PLEASE DON'T GO!" at the end of Carpe Diem! Derek
Sherinian is no Kevin Moore but the solo toward the end of ACOS was so
Moore-esque that everything is gonna be alright for DT. When Kevin Moore
left, I thought that DT will never be the same but now I think that we will
not be dissapointed with him. The "Uncovered" songs are great especially
"Funeral for a Friend/Love Lies Bleeding." The Zep Medley was also good but
I didn't like James' Robert Plant impersonation but Steve Perry should watch
out.
Now for some non-DT content (SORRY!) About the person who said that
if "Afraid of Sunlight" is an good example of what Marillion is like: I
didn't like "Afraid of Sunlight" too much but their stuff with Fish, their
original lead singer, just rules!! "Misplaced Childhood is one of my
favorite albums. "Clutching at Straws" is pretty good but I haven't really
listened to it yet. "Fugazi" IMHO is horrible except for "Assassing", which
is only alright. Their B-sides album "B-Sides Themselves" is really cool
especially "Grendel." I haven't heard their first album (I forgot the name
of it) nor the live albums. Fish left after "Clutching at Straws" and along
came Steve Hogarth, their current front man. I haven't heard the first
album with him, "Season's End." I do not like "Holidays in Eden" except for
"Cover My Eyes," which was a catchy pop song, like the rest of the album,
unlike the progressive style they had with Fish. "Brave" was an excellent
album, though. The album IMHO is very "The Wall"-esque in nature. Then
came "Afraid in Sunlight" which goes back to the pop album type thing.
Basically, after all this babbling, "Afraid of Sunlight" is not a good
example of their music.
Well, I have wasted enough space here. BTW, is there anyone
interested in going to the Dec 28 DT concert at Malibu in Long Island (it
would be easier if you are from LI) with my friend and I. If you are just
e-mail me back and we'll see what happens! Well gotta go.
"In the Flesh?" is on as of right now!
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 17:21:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: Ytsejam Digest <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: DT Boot CDs (Updated Prices)
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.951004170530.6103B-100000@umbc8.umbc.edu>
Hello Jammers,
Several people have asked about the availability of boots CDs and how to
get them. The guy I buy from is very reliable (I have ordered from him
about 15 times) and he gets the orders back to me within 2 weeks in good
condition.
I am willing to do one order for people on the list. Here are the Dream
Theater CDs I can get:
Title #CDs Information Sound Quality
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Consciously Unreal 2CD (USA 1989, 1992 Charlie on 1989 vox B+
Charlie singing Metropolis
The Dance of Eternity 2CD (New York City, USA Limelight 3/93) A
Original A Change Of Seasons,
Eve, To Live Forever
Tragedy 1CD (New York City, USA Limelight 3/93) A
Comedy 1CD (New York City, USA Limelight 3/93) A
Lost in the Sky 2CD (Milan, Italy Paridiso 11/93) A
OAMOT, Afterlife, To Live Forever, Eve
A Kick into a Dream 2CD (New York City, USA 10/28/94) B+/A-
TOWHTSTS, most of Awake
Majestic Harmonies 1CD (Stockholm 10/27/93 & Majesty demos) ?
Wake Up 2CD (Japan PPV Show 1/24/95) A
most of Awake, instrumental jam
Mind Control 2CD (Japan PPV Show 1/24/95/Acoustic Holland 95) A
**For those who won't read what is below**
The sound quality ratings are as follows
A Excellent Just below the quality of a regular live release
A- EX- Has a few little problems like uneven mix
B+ Very Good+ May be muddy in spots but not consistantly
**Notes**
1. Tragedy and Comedy are the same show as The Dance of Eternity, except
they are split into two different packages.
2. Wake Up and Mind Control are the same show except Mind Control has
bonus Holland Acoustic 1995 tracks (I think these are Tears & Winter).
3. Majestic Harmonies contains some of the Majesty demos are filler.
4. The sound quality of The Dance of Eternity, Lost in the Sky, Wake Up,
Mind Control, Tragedy, and Comedy are all excellent for boots.
5. A Kick into a Dream and Consciously Unreal have really good sound
quality for a boot, and I haven't heard Majestic Harmonies.
6. I can provide set list information on Wake Up, Lost in the Sky,
The Dance of Eternity since I own these.
Ordering:
1. I will be accepting orders until October 31st by e-mail at
mbacko1@umbc.edu The CDs will take 2 weeks tops to come back once I
get the money so If I have all money in by November 7th I can have the
CDs to you by November 24th.
2. Pricing - The prices were reduced and stand as follows:
1CD set $24
2CD set $43
This price includes priority mail shipping in the USA, if you are
ordering from another country e-mail me and we will work out
shipping prices.
3. Payment - Send money orders only to the following address once I e- mail
you with the amount of your total order. I need to get the money
before I can order.
Michael Backof
1894 Uniontown Road
Westminster, Maryland 21158
USA
4. If you have any questions and comments please e-mail me.
Later,
Mike Backof
mbacko1@umbc.edu
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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 1995 12:28:13 +0600
From: dief@vt.edu (Brian K. Diefenderfer)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: jam 999
Message-ID: <m0t0ZhX-0000EnC@donews.cts.com>
>I prefer listening to the cover songs rather than ACoS
AAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!
Is this guy smokin crack?
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 22:46:37 +0100 (MEZ)
From: sw0101@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de (Steffen Barabasch)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com (Ytsejam - the Dream Theater mailing list)
Subject: No ACOS this time?
Message-ID: <9510042146.AA84352@aixrs1.hrz.uni-essen.de>
Hello!
I'll try to keep it short this time!
- Why does everybody apologize for the length and then append 50 lines of
signature?? If you've got something to say, say it. If it's a lot you've
got to say, even better! But don't waste bandwith with a ASCII Majesty-logo
surrounded by the whole ACOS lyrics or whatever. No flame, just an idea.
Keep the redundant stuff short instead of the really interesting things.
Please!
- Chris Poland played guitar on the first two Megadeth albums, "Killing is
my business... and business is good!" and "Peace sells... but who's buying?"
(I had to write that out, Mustaine seemed to love the "..." on the first
three albums.)
- To Neil Gallop: You're from England and aren't used to the rain? ;-)
- To everyone who wants to know where eg. foo@foobar.nl is located (thinking
of this "somewhere in Europe" in the Subcon dub list):
nl is Netherlands, de Germany, fi Finland, at Austria, ch Switzerland, it
Italy and so on. com means company, this could be everywhere in the world.
edu means American university, I think you knew THAT. BTW, if you see
something like uni-blah.de, it's an university in a German city named blah.
Look at my address, then you know what I'm doing, or at least what I should
do at this moment...
- To the ones who didn't hear the bass on Awake but on ACOS: Last week I
heard Awake on my nearly 15 years old mono TV-radio-cassette-combination
and even then it WAS there. You just have to listen. It's a really low end
bass. On ACOS it was more audible, because they used a clearer bass sound,
but this way they had to sacrifice most of the big deep guitar-crunch we
got on Awake. Awake got a wider frequency bandwidth, with this soft, deep
bass on the very low frequencies, leaving more space for a fat sounding
guitar. I think it's this bandwidth that makes the sound of Awake so HUGE.
And think of John Myung himself. He's really a team player who stays in the
background while still playing a big role in the whole thing. Although I
usually love to hear the bass, the Awake-production reflects this character
perfectly. Whoops... didn't want to restart this really old thread, so if
you want to reply to this, mail me.
Well... just another post that did contain ACOS-related stuff. At least I
haven't got a .sig at all. ;->
Steffen
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 18:35:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: JIMMY <bd30011@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com,
Subject: PEACE
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951004182310.2446A-100000@bingsun1>
Well its me again, JIMMY, your favorite new jammer,
I COME IN PEACE this time and I'll be a little more intelligent with my
opinions from now on. I have seen mailing lists where people just sign
up to insult the people on the list and I though Bafu Vai might be one
of them, but since everyone seems to ignore his obscene lyrics, I guess
I will too.
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* Jimmy (bd30011@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu) *
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* " I have been guilty of kicking myself in the teeth..." *
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:11:15 -0400
From: arom@capital.edu (Aaron Rom)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Kevin Moore vs. John Petrucci, who's the better lyricist?
Message-ID: <9510042311.AA15004@athena.capital.edu>
Hey all, this is my first official post to the YTSEJAM, and I wanted to make it
a good one. Since someone is already analyzing the 'Awake' lyrics inside and
out, I figured I should raise the debate of who's the better lyricist, Kevin or
John. IMHO, I think Kevin was the better lyricist. I particularly dig his
contributions on 'Awake'. His lyrics seem to create such intense imagery, like
the references to Hell in "Lie" and his sources for inspiration for those songs.
I really dug how he came up with "Space-Dye Vest" and I think the song is a
fitting end to his tenure with DT. I think Kevin's lyricism will be missed
most, as Derek Shirinian has picked up the slack quite well on the keys. I
wonder if Derek will be as competent on the compositional aspect of the band, aas
well? I also wonder if Mike and John Myung are going to have to pick up the
slack, lyrically, as well as James? Any thoughts?
Aaron
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:14:07 -0400
From: KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: boer303@hio.tem.nhl.nl
Subject: Translation of .sig
Message-ID: <9510042314.AA20126@>
On Tue, 3 Oct 1995, 'ytsejam@arastar.com' wrote:
>Matt Sirois has in his signature file:
>"Mi lengua, mi lengua...se sale de mi boca." -Vai (no clue what it
means!)
>Forgive my very *broken* Italian translation but I think it says:
>"My tongue, my tongue....the spice (salt in this case) of my mouth"
>Any Italian Jammers out there tells us what it really means???
-- Ok, look, this is SPANISH not Italian. I can see why you might think it is Italian (based on its Romantic family origin) but it's not. As a recent graduate with a BA in Spanish I can tell you that it means, "my tongue, my tongue is falling out of my mouth." or literally "my tongue,my tongue is leaving my mouth." You are welcome. ;-) The salt thing doesn't make too much sense, at least to me... uh....no DT content? Kevin (kwmadden@usa.pipeline.com) GO PACKERS...GO WINGS!!!
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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 00:42:35 +1200 From: euan@waikato.ac.nz (Euan Kilgour) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Stuff Message-ID: <v01510101ac982ecb2b6c@[130.217.82.139]>
Happy 1000th YTSEJAM List!
I was wondering (this has probably been done before) what music/bands everyone was into BEFORE they first heard DT? Me? I was (and still am to an extent) a shredhead hard rock fan. I listened to stuff like Racer X, Malmsteen, Extreme (Nuno, my fave axeman before JP!), White Lion (Vitto was very underrated IMHO. He has a very melodic style), Whitesnake (with Steve Vai), Iron Maiden, Gary Moore (the old stuff), Ozzy Ozborne (with Jake E. Lee (When he frets with his thumb and taps with the rest of his fingers and uses the tuning peg as a whammy bar in the live video still blows me away)), Dio. Pretty run of the mill stuff. Then my older brother got me into Yes, and then I heard DT.
Cheers
Euan Kilgour - YJLHB Still ACOSless (but not for long) :)
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 19:06:35 -0500 (CDT) From: John Nguyen <nuprin@wichita.fn.net> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Acoustic Dreams review Message-ID: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.951004180844.11289A-100000@wichita.fn.net>
Hey jammers, I am priveledged to let you all know that I am going to post the first review of Acoustic Dreams tomorrow. Because I am getting the copy early tomorrow afternoon. don't everybody jump on Mike for sending me my copies early and via FEDERAL EXPRESS because he had a reason. I am personally giving Mike Portnoy his complimentary copies when I go to his drum clinic next week. Hence, I'm getting my copy early also. So, my next post will be the first review of Acoustiv Dreams...history in the making!!
John Nguyen
PS - If you thought my message was a bit arrogant: tough! I'm a Dream Theater fan! :) :)
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 20:46:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Styles <styles@crow.cybercomm.net> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: DT Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.951004204359.14650A-100000@crow.cybercomm.net>
I'm switching net services, so please UNsuscribe this address: LNCV43E@prodigy.com and suscribe this: STYLES@crow.cybercomm.net Thanks
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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 95 10:42:09 PST From: mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: *** New DT Song Book Available *** Message-ID: <9509048128.AA812828567@CCGATE.HAC.COM>
Well, I finally finished updating the DT Song Book... I t now contains all of the lyrics for the Ronnie Scott's gig, the new ACOS, and the Kevin Moore Demos (thanks AirDance :)... The "Unofficial" Dream Theater Song Book is available via the following methods:
WWW: http://www.indirect.com/www/mkizer/index.htm FTP: www.indirect.com/www/mkizer/dt_sb11.txt
Email from the Ytsejam Mailing List Archive send: get ytsejam dt_sb11.txt Address it to: ytsejam-request@arastar.com with a subject of "asdf".
If you can't get a copy using the above methods, send me an email and I'll send you a copy directly.
+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | Michael Kizer -- Computer Sciences Corporation (Tucson, AZ) | | mrkizer@ccgate.hac.com (preferred) -or- mkizer@indirect.com | | http://www.indirect.com/www/mkizer/index.htm | | ^--> Check here for the Dream Theater Song Book... | | "Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose." -Rush (The Band!) | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 95 0:55:46 EDT From: Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: No like rush? Message-ID: <9510050455.AA03879@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
First, let me explain that this is not a flame. I want to know what you heard, Steve. What albums besides Counterparts? From there, maybe I can recommend some Rush to try before you say that you don't like them. Rush changes their style eevery album, so don't trash them yet. If you like, email me at s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu and we can discuss rush stuff outside of YJ.
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