YTSEJAM Digest 1043
Today's Topics:
1) Re: LaBrie<--->Michael Sweet???
by "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
2) I laugh in the face of danger! Hahahaha!
by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
3) ACOS POLL RESULTS!!!!!!
by srvrip@qualcomm.com (John Hough)
4) LIE single
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1038
by acook@tiac.net (Adam Cook)
6) ACOS TAB Project update / TAB debate
by Brandon Vaughn <EDLEADER@uwf.cc.uwf.edu>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1040
by Geopara@aol.com
8) YTSEJAM digest 1042
by "Steven Johnson, P" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
9) Re: 5ive fave non-DT bands/ Saviour Machine
by "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
10) Re[2]: guitar setups
by mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
11) YTSEJAM digest 1039
by "Steven Johnson, P" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
12) Who's that Band?
by David Papineau <papined@pr.erau.edu>
13) Guilty!
by David Papineau <papined@pr.erau.edu>
14) Re: Error Condition Re: asdf
by Jason Hough <jhough@qualcomm.com>
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1038
by "SHAUN WESTPHAL" <WESTPHAS@nsu001.northern.edu>
16) Fave bands and rumblings
by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
17) Has Anyone noticed?
by Ryan J Benedict <rbenedic@gac.edu>
18) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1039
by "SHAUN WESTPHAL" <WESTPHAS@nsu001.northern.edu>
19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1039
by "SHAUN WESTPHAL" <WESTPHAS@nsu001.northern.edu>
20) Various ramblings etc...
by esb01@students.stir.ac.uk (E. S. Ballinger)
21) Blind Melon, MP's solo and Jazz.
by Michael.Bradley@mail.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley)
22) Re: Guitar set up.. sorta ;)
by Big Jim and the Twins <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 15:04:00 -500 (EST)
From: "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: LaBrie<--->Michael Sweet???
Message-ID: <3083FE5E.B99D.00F6.000@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
>Speaking of DT, am I the only that thinks that James' voice sounds a
>little like the singer in Stryper: Michael Sweet? I'm not saying
>they're an identical match; but I do think there's a definite
>similarity.
Hmmmm...interesting idea...I'm not sure...
He does sound like Dale Thompson of Bride in the beginning of the LiT
video, though...
Dan Temmesfeld
s1133627@cedarville.edu
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 12:24:05 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: I laugh in the face of danger! Hahahaha!
Message-ID: <199510171924.MAA06535@bud.indirect.com>
Hi all, a few things to let you all know about.
To Zach Gemmill and others who requested high numbered Acoustic
Dreams... don't worry, you won't have to wait until I send out ALL the
numbers up till then. I'm sending out discs in the order I got the mail,
so if you asked for #350 but sent in your mail before I got the order
that received #200, then I'll send out #198, #199, #350, then #200. Make
sense?
Illiterate? Write today for free help.
I just noticed that it's already past the date when I said I'd
start taking orders for When Dream and Today Unite. It's still pretty
early in the process, but I think it's probably safe to go ahead and
begin the new ordering. I'll have an update on it for you before long, I
imagine. I'll say this: I still don't expect the CD to be out before
around Christmastime, so I don't mind in the least if people decide to
wait a bit before sending the order along.
Brian Kirk, if you could drop me a line, I'd appreciate it...
OK so for the benefit of those just tuning in, I still have
around 50 copies of Acoustic Dreams unreserved, and around 40 copies of
Cygnus still to sell, and I'm going to begin accepting pre-orders for
When Dream and Today Unite. I have already received some orders from
international buyers who needed to pay ahead of time; all these are now
considered good and valid. I am:
Mike Bahr - WDATU
3175 N. Price Rd. #1066
Chandler, AZ 85224
I have been doing some mathematical figurations with the pricing
for WDATU. The post office raised rates for out-of-country. It used to
cost $3.75 to send to France, Germany, the UK, etc. Now it costs $5.00 to
do the same. Oddly enough, Scandinavia is still $3.75. Japan and
Australia remain $6-7 to send. The local rate rose a pinch from $.95 to
$1.24 when the recent stamp increase went into effect.
However! It's been a bit cheaper to produce lately so the
domestic postage difference will be largely offset. I therefore think (as
I count beans here) that the following pricing will work:
WDATU CD (each) $25
Postage USA free
Postage Canada add $1
Postage Europe add $3
Postage Jpn/Aus add $4
Each additional WDATU - you do NOT need to add postage.
That should work. I only have to pay the postage once and it
costs the same to mail one CD as three. So if you ordered 1 copy of WDATU
from Germany, it would cost $28, but each copy AFTER that would be $25
each, so 2 for $53, 3 for $78, etc.
The upcoming Antiquities CD will be a run of 500 like AD, so it
will probably be priced the same again. WDATU will begin as a run of 500
numbered/signed, and if demand continues, I'll produce 500 more, but
never more than 1000 total. The Public Affection CD will likely be
produced in a large quantity to start and I'd _really_ like to push the
price down to $20... I'll see what I can do.
Sign in an Oregon auto dealership: "Why go somewhere else to be
cheated when you can come here instead?" (true story)
Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 12:44:04 -0700
From: srvrip@qualcomm.com (John Hough)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ACOS POLL RESULTS!!!!!!
Message-ID: <199510171944.MAA01029@wizard.qualcomm.com>
DREAM THEATER ACOS POLL RESULTS
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*RATING OF CD*
8.78
Lowest vote was a 6
Highest was a 10 (with 12 votes)
*FAVORITE SECTION OF ACOS*
1. Another World - 10.3 votes
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2. Innocence - 7.5 votes
3. Carpe Diem - 7 votes
4. The Darkest of Winters - 6.3 votes
5. The Crimson Sunset - 6 votes
6. The Crimson Sunrise - 5.3 votes
7. The Inevitable Summer - 3.5 votes
(the .3 and .5 were from people who could
not name one section.)
*FAVORITE COVER SONG*
1. Perfect Strangers - 18 votes
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2. Love Lies Bleeding - 10 votes
3. Lovin', Touchin', Squeezin' - 7 votes
4. Funeral For A Friend - 5 votes
5. Achilles Last Stand - 3.5 votes
The remaining songs got either 1 vote or
a 1/2 vote except for "Cruise Control" and "Turn it
on Again" which got 0 votes.
I would like to thank everyone who replyed one
more time. I will probably do the poll again right
before the next DT album is released just to see if
opinions have changed much. Thanks again everyone!
DT roolez!
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John Hough
srvrip@qualcomm.com
"Until I saw the desire for revenge, my heart never once went astray"
"As long as I have to die in the attempt, then there is no reason"
"To Live Forever" ---- Dream Theater
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 12:44:31 -0700
From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: LIE single
Message-ID: <199510171944.MAA28802@cats.ucsc.edu>
People have been asking, so here's what's on it (at least the UK version --
thanks Pata agin!)
LIE (radio edit)
Space-Dye Vest (album version)
To Live Forever (studio version)
Another Day (Live, probably the same as on the Japanese LaTM)
~Chris
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 15:58:46 -0400
From: acook@tiac.net (Adam Cook)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1038
Message-ID: <199510171958.PAA06819@zork.tiac.net>
>
>This question is directed at musicians, but open to everyone, so you can
>skip it if you want. I was wondering what kind of setups each of you
>played and how you came about playing them. I'm a guitarist in an upstart
>metal band, we only do covers for now, and I'm using an Ibanez RG450DX, and
>a Peavey Transtube 212 Special (200w). Of course DT had a hand in my
>selection of an Ibanez along with it's incredible neck, pickup
>configuration, and all around appearance (black). I'm also looking into
>processors. Any suggestions?
Wooohoo, guitar rig talk. Right up my alley. I use an Ibanez S470. Most
people I know who want to play Ibanez choose to go with the RG series, but
I totally give the S series a high reccomendation. It's a much different
style guitar than what's out there now. It has a very slim body-hugging
mahogany body which produces warm tones. It's very light, and has a
different neck than the RG series. It's much rounder and more "full" feeling
on your palm, but it still keeps the fingerboard feeling lightning fast
(like most Ibanez's). It's the 1992 model, so it's different then the
current S470, which I don't like as much. The new S470 has a cheaper floyd
tremelo, also they changed the neck and it doesn't have black hardware
anymore. As a guitar that listed for $900 I'm very happy with it, especially
since I paid only half list ar $450. However, as evident with many guitar's
not priced well over $1000, the pickups could definitely stand to be
improved. I already ordered a Steve's special for the neck position, I
haven't decided what to put in the bridge.
As for a processor, it depends what you're looking for. If you're looking
for all digital effects without a preamp I strongly reccomend the Rocktron
Intellifex. For a preamp the Marshall JMP-1 is pretty good, as is the
Mesa/Boogie Triaxis. You can also pick up a ADA MP-1 for dirt cheap these
days which is a great value if you're on a tighter budget. If you want both
preamp/digital then go with the Digitech GSP2101. It's strongest competitor
is the ART SGX Express which was from my ears designed with quantity and not
quality as far as its sounds go.
Since about 99% of the posts in this digest were top 5 non-dt bands..I feel
it necessary to add mine...
Metallica, Rush, Megadeth (old), Queensryche, and Fates Warning
woohoooo, byebye now
adam
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| Adam Cook Dream Theater*Queensryche*Rush* |
| acook@tiac.net Metallica*Fates Warning Red-Sox gotta beat |
| Ibanez S470*ADA MP-1*Fender HOT*Zoom 1012* Indian Scum!! =) |
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 95 15:02:06 CDT
From: Brandon Vaughn <EDLEADER@uwf.cc.uwf.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ACOS TAB Project update / TAB debate
Message-ID: <9510172002.AA27418@anthor.arastar.com>
Well,
When I thought about doing this project, I didn't think it would
start a mini-debate over music and transcribing! Here is an update
on the project and some comments on the debate.
Those so far who have an interest in transcribing ACOS (including me)
have initially numbered: 5
I was hoping to get at least 7 (have a person on each section), so
if anybody else wants to jump on board, here is your chance.
Everybody who participates will get credit for the product. Some who
have responded have already transcribed some parts. Others
have access to 7-string guitars. So, we are getting some good
components on board.
If you are interested in being a transcriber of ACOS, email me
directly: Brandon Vaughn at edleader@uwf.cc.uwf.edu
Accuracy and TAB
----------------
Actual music notation is always best in some sense. However, the
only way I know of to transport this over the Internet is MIDI. Not
everyone has access to MIDI. TAB seems to be the easiest to use
email.
Also, I believe TAB to be easier to *initially* decipher than
regular music. How can you notate guitar nuiances like pick scrapes,
artificial harmonics, tapping, and so on, without making the actual
music look like crap?!
The best of both worlds would be both music (to get the rhythms) and
TAB, but there is that email problem again....(not to mention, the
only program I know of to do this is Finale)
Will this be 100% accurate? No way. But it will be a lot more
accurate than just one person's transcription. Petrucci's would
be the only one that is dead on. Anybody have his phone number?
I am a perfectionist, and while I may not be as good of a player
as others on the Jam, I can usually detect musical errors. I will
not finalize the product until I feel it is accurate. Suggestions
and corrections will always be welcome. By the way....
Final Checkers
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For those who don't want to be involved, who don't want to take the
time to do it, or who just think of themselves as _higher_ than this,
consider being a final checker in the end. I don't mind. The more
input and checking of this we have, the better it is.
Why do this?
------------
There has been a question about just waiting until an official
transcription is put out by some music company or magazine. Well,
I would not suggest this or undertake this (am I crazy?) if I thought
it would get published. But, how many EPs have they put out music for?
Not many. What if an offical transcription surfaces? Well, I guess
we've lost, but not really. The experience is still good. Not to
mention the fact--what if it is never officially put out?
So there it is folks, like it or lump it.
Brandon Vaughn
email: edleader@uwf.cc.uwf.edu
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 16:17:48 -0400
From: Geopara@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1040
Message-ID: <951017161748_46938468@emout05.mail.aol.com>
I thought I would get on the band wagon.
Top bands (not including solo artists like Eric Johnson who is amazing)
* DT
* Rush
* Racer X (check out "Extreme Volume 1")
* Dokken/Lynch Mob
* Annihilator (check out "Set the World On Fire" & "Brain Dance")
* Queen
Honorable mention: Queensrych
Could you tell I'm into guitar/bass players and drummers.
For Guitarists that like Satch and Vai. Have you checked out Jennifer
Batten...she is incredible and even more impressive live!
I not noticed any Yngwie advocates compare him to Eric Johnson. Wouldn't
most of you agree that you can like both (I have all their cd's) but Eric is
a better guitar player than Yngwie? Whether he is faster is a close one.
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Date: 17 Oct 1995 15:47:15 GMT
From: "Steven Johnson, P" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1042
Message-ID: <199510172047.AA18588@interlock.amoco.com>
*** Reply to note of 10/17/95 15:35
Least favorite DT stuff:
Unfortunately, all but Status Seeker and AFIL off WDADU. Mainly because I
don't care for Charlie's voice. LATER-
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You're fighting the weight of the world and no one can save you
this time/Close your eyes 'cause you'll find all you need in
your mind -- Dream Theater, "Take the Time"
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 17:30:00 -500 (EST)
From: "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: 5ive fave non-DT bands/ Saviour Machine
Message-ID: <308420B5.B99D.00BE.000@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
>King's X
Coolness...
>The Cure
>Death
Yes, another Death-head...
>Fear Factory
>Meshuggah
>It's been interesting to see some of the other faves. SAVIOUR
>MACHINE!?! What the heck! someone else has heard of them. whatever
>happened to them after their first album? oh well.
I didn't put Saviour Machine on my top 5 non-DT bands, but I love
their stuff. They have another album Saviour Machine II, which is
only available at the time as a German import. It is much slower
than the Intense Record's debut, but it is also more progressive.
They have a full-time pianist, and the 13 "movements" are very
beautifully arranged; though the album is not as heavy as the
debut...
>Dan
another Dan (hey, that could be a Dream Theater song... :) )
Dan Temmesfeld
s1133627@cedarville.edu
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 95 13:21:37 PST
From: mrkizer@CCGATE.HAC.COM
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re[2]: guitar setups
Message-ID: <9509178139.AA813961961@CCGATE.HAC.COM>
Well, here goes (I'm not currently in a band or anything, just noodling 8^)
Carvin DC125 (neck thru body, strat shape, one humbucker, and a way cool Kahler
tremelo <when the bar is in the "down" position the bridge becomes fixed, but
when you pull the bar "up" it is now free floating... stays in tune too>)
Carvin V220 (old, very "heavy metal" styled body, but has 2 humbuckers with coil
splitters and out of phase switches (i.e., lots o' different sounds), regular
Kahler tremelo)
Applesauce (er... Applause) acoustic... the low end Ovation company, but not bad
for the $80 I spent on it 10 years ago... I really need a good acoustic, but hte
choices out there are staggering... what's the word on the Ibanez models (I was
looking at the Charvels before... I'm searching in the $500 or so range)..
Carvin XV212 100 watt amp (2 12" Celestions and their 100 watt head in combo
format) Great clean tone, and separate overdrive channel (although my power
tubes are on the way out....)
Digitech DSP128 (The original one (ie, old)... multieffects unit... delay,
reverb, chorus, eq, etc... Not too bad, but some of the newer models are WAY
cool...
Dunlap "Jimi Hendrix" Wah (eh, it's OK), ZOOM distortion pedal (very cool
sounds), and some other assorted pedals and nonsense....
-Mike
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Date: 17 Oct 1995 09:13:09 GMT
From: "Steven Johnson, P" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1039
Message-ID: <m0t5D1Z-0001juC@crash.cts.com>
*** Reply to note of 10/17/95 04:56
MY GIRLFRIEND AND I JUST BROKE UP AND I CAN'T GET "Another Day" nor the
Subcon. .. "PLEASE DON'T GO!!!" OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!! HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
-Steve
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You're fighting the weight of the world and no one can save you
this time/Close your eyes 'cause you'll find all you need in
your mind -- Dream Theater, "Take the Time"
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 07:43:57 -0700 (MST)
From: David Papineau <papined@pr.erau.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Who's that Band?
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951017074100.8643B-100000@moon.pr.erau.edu>
Hey! On the end of the Awake tour, around about this past August, I
saw them on their last show at The Strand in Providence. They were with
two bands, Shadowplay and some other group!!??!! They said their name a
few times, but I could never understand it. Does anyone out there know
who this band was? Please help me!
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 07:59:24 -0700 (MST)
From: David Papineau <papined@pr.erau.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Guilty!
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951017075340.8643C-100000@moon.pr.erau.edu>
Hello again...now I have just been reading Jams #36+ and I've seen far
too many people apologizing for the music they listen to. There's no
need for this. What you like is what you like and thats that! The whole
idea of the top five list I assume is to gauge what bands we all like.
Well personally, I think that STP is one of the best bands out right
now. I CANNOT listen to a song like "Still Remains" or "Kitchenware and
Candybars (or whatever it is)" and not feel moved. There's great stuff
here.
Anyway, I just got kinda upset seeing people bash on thier own loved
bands. Sorry people, I've go no regrets (other than Trixter perhaps).
On another note, has anyone out there got the new David Bowie album. I
got it and thought it was Ok. Any more edjucated opinions?
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Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 08:53:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jason Hough <jhough@qualcomm.com>
To: eiagm@eznet.net
Cc: listproc@anthor.arastar.com, ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com,
Subject: Re: Error Condition Re: asdf
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.951014085223.22329A-100000@tintoy.qualcomm.com>
You need to send your request to ytsejam-request@arastar.com
instead of ytsejam@arastar.com.
On Sat, 7 Oct 1995 eiagm@eznet.net wrote:
> I tried to subscribe to the Dream Theater mailing list by sending
> "Subscribe ytsejam Michael Stover" to ytsejam@arastar.com. I got
> back a message basically telling me to try again without putting a
> request on the first line, whatever that means. so I have including
> the above explanation before:
>
> subscribe ytsejam Michael Stover
>
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Project 4gen (PC shoot-em-up): <http://www.ax.com/dindia>
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 10:59:23 CST
From: "SHAUN WESTPHAL" <WESTPHAS@nsu001.northern.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1038
Message-ID: <1C6F71C7E04@nsu001.northern.edu>
Here are my five favorites besides Dream Theater:
1.Kiss
2.Pantera
3.King's X
4.Alice In Chains
5.Motley Crue
I have the article where Blind Melon "trashed" Dream Theater, as soon
as I find it, I'll post more info on it..... Later Ytsejammers
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 95 16:03:38 +0100
From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: donews!nga
Subject: Fave bands and rumblings
Message-ID: <9510171503.AA00652@sundoc13.software-ag.de>
As David Frost used to say, 'Hello, good evening and welcome'.
So you want to know my five favourite bands? Well, here they are, in no
particular order. This list represents what I listen most at the moment (incl.
DT of course), and tends to change slowly but surely every few months.
Tiamat
Smashing Pumpkins
Monster Magnet
Paradise Lost
Loreena Mckennit (who's she?)
Now for the special mention category:
Der Ring der Niebelungen by Richard Wagner (let's face it, this guy wrote
heavy metal operas)
Any symphony by Haydn
Old Genesis (up to The Lamb)
Old Yes (up to Topographic Oceans)
The Clash
The Sex Pistols
The Who
Pennywise
Kyuss
Therapy?
Bob Marley
Songs from the Monty Python films
Enough wierd stuff there to keep a shrink busy for a few weeks.
And now my 2 cents-worth about Blind Melon: I saw them live recently (as
a support band for Kyuss and Soundgarden), and I can honestly say that I have
never seen such a bunch of undertalented, over-hyped, self-assured wankers
on a stage in my life. The albums may be OK, but as a stage act they (turn on
Butt-Head mode) "suck in ways that no other stuff has sucked before".
Flame me about the Smashing Pumpkins if you want, but I think they are great.
Does anybody else know Loreena McKennit? Let me know if you want any more
info about any of the bands listed.
stay safe and happy listening
Neil Gallop
(nga@software-ag.de)
It may be October outside, but it's always August under your arms
Roy Harper
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 11:15:17 (CDT)
From: Ryan J Benedict <rbenedic@gac.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Has Anyone noticed?
Message-ID: <199510171615.LAA01603@shadow.gac.edu>
Jammers,
Has anyone noticed that many of the "new" threads that have been posted
are ones that have been covered in the past.
Examples:
1) What are your five favorite bands
2) If you had seventy-five minutes of time what DT songs would you choose
to put on an album?
Of course, the last time it was mentioned was "What songs would
play for an alien (outer-space) if you want them to understand who
DT was?"
Some things I guess just never die . . .
Hey if anyone out there knows what this Blind Mellon thing is (what
happened or the article it was mentioned in) could you post it. I am quit
curious as to how immature, uneducated, loser, power chord (fifth chord)
bands have to say when they feel threatened by real talent!
Thank you,
Ryan
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 11:19:24 CST
From: "SHAUN WESTPHAL" <WESTPHAS@nsu001.northern.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1039
Message-ID: <1C74C3B09A3@nsu001.northern.edu>
The part in Mike Portnoy's drum solo in Live In Tokyo was the intro
of "By Demons Be Driven" by Pantera off the "Vulgar Display of Power"
album.
About Blind Melon....The issue that they bashed DT in was Guitar
World w/Joe Satriani on the cover, and the title was"Shred Is
Dead........NOT!!!" I have the issue at home (I,m at college now) the
next time I go home I'll get it and tell everybody more about it.
Oh yeah here are my five favorite bands besides DT
1.King's X
2.King's X
3.King's X
4.King's X
5.King's X
oh yeah and King'sX
Honorable Mention....you guessed it King's X
Later, Shaun Westphal
"...it's not just for the dead??!!...Hmmm"
-Wilde Sylas Tomkyn
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 11:27:00 CST
From: "SHAUN WESTPHAL" <WESTPHAS@nsu001.northern.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1039
Message-ID: <1C76CA40EFE@nsu001.northern.edu>
I just sent a message saying that the DT bashing by BM occured in a
Guitar World issue, then I realized that I was wrong, that was the
issue they bashed Nuno Bettencourt in, sorry for the mixup.
Even though I screwed up, Blind Melon still sucks.
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 17:55:29 +0100
From: esb01@students.stir.ac.uk (E. S. Ballinger)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Various ramblings etc...
Message-ID: <v01520d00aca988e24368@[139.153.41.145]>
In YTSEJAM 1037 Martin Spain wrote:
>To the guy who appealed to all ytsedrummers, I'm glad I've finally found
>someone else who's into DT and DOESN'T play guitar. I saw the video for
>Another Day on MTV and instantly went out and bought I&W and spent the
>following week going, er...HOW does Mike P do that? Then I bought the
>Music in Progress vid, and all became clear.
What a cool name, YTSEDRUMMER. Hehe, well I'm one as well and after reading
the above, I'm dying to find out more about the video he mentions. Does
anyone have anymore details?
>The thing is, drummers aren't provided with an "easy way out" in
>transcription >books, so we have to work it out for ourselves by listening
>and watching, and >that is much harder than simply learning the tab for
>JP's guitar parts. This >conclusively proves that drummers are better than
>guitarists!
As for this comment, I'm saying absolutely nothing.
Other than: How do you get a guitarist to turn down? Show him the music!
Sorry! Just a quick joke! :^>
The Silent Man (CD Single) : was this ever released in the U.K. and / or
does anyone know where I can lay my hands on a copy. I'm dying to get hold
of it cause it has the song Eve, on it which I haven't heard yet.
Chris Crowder wrote in YTSEJAM 1039:
>P.S. does somebody know what's on the Lie single, and if they do, WHERE CAN I
>GET ONE?!!!!!! Someone's got to know!
Well the CD contains:
1.LIE (Edit) - A shorter (5:00) version of LIE with a cool drum intro.
2.SPACE-DYE-VEST - The same version as on Awake.
3.TO LIVE FOREVER - A studio version of this great song, which is on the Live in
Tokyo video and various bootlegs.
4.ANOTHER DAY (Live) - Recorded at the Marquee in London. Not on the LatM CD.
As to where you can get a copy, I don't know. It's not too hard to find in
the U.K. but I don't know about in the states.
And finally, does anyone know of a DT discussion group on IRC? It would
good to speak to fellow DT fans in real-time for a change!
Thanks
Edd Ballinger YTSEDRUMMER :^>
P.S. I think YTSEJAM should from now on be said in a high squeaky voice and
very quickly in a manner similar to that of James LaBrie on an Italian
bootleg that I can't quite remember the name of at the moment. If you've
heard it you'll know what I mean.
Later
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 13:46:59 -0500
From: Michael.Bradley@mail.trincoll.edu (Michael Bradley)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Blind Melon, MP's solo and Jazz.
Message-ID: <v01520d00aca9a7b28869@[157.252.65.110]>
Hey there jammers!
I've heard so much about Blind Melon bashing DT, I just have to
vent a little. What has happened to the music world, when technical
proficiency is looked down on? As rock and fusion guitarist, I encourage
all DT fans to check out some hard jazz. Like Charlie Hunter's "Bing Bing
Bing" album. He plays an 8-string guitar and does all the bass and guitar
parts at once! Basically, just keep practicing to be the best you can be
and people will soon get sick of all this out-of-tune guitar bullshit.
Jazz is the epitomy of feel and expression and you won't catch
ANYONE criticizing a jazz player for being "too good." Check it out guys.
About the thrash guitar breaks in Mike Portnoy's live solo, I think
they're a mix of Pantera and Slayer at different dates. Don't kill me for
saying this, but when I saw DT in New Haven, the roadie played the guitar
breaks. I was in the front row and I could see this fat guy sitting
offstage with JP's guitar playing the fills. He probably does it every
night so JP can take a break. Later all!
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Gather ye rosebuds while ye may, old time is still a-flying;
And this same flower that smiles today, tomorrow will be dying.
--Robert Herrick, as quoted in Dream Theater's "A Change of Seasons."
Mike Bradley
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Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 13:04:10 -0500 (CDT)
From: Big Jim and the Twins <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: Guitar set up.. sorta ;)
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.951017130049.8851A-100000@eehpx7.cen.uiuc.edu>
On Tue, 17 Oct 1995 kylania@dns.top.net wrote:
> In Ytsejam 1038 Brandon asked:
> >This question is directed at musicians, but open to everyone, so you can
> >skip it if you want. I was wondering what kind of setups each of you
> >played and how you came about playing them.
>
Bass:
Gibson Epiphone 4-string (EMG Active Pickups)
Working on:
either an Ibanez 5-string (SR885)
or a washburn 6-sting used. I'm leaning towards this one.
AMP:
Hartke 3500 Combo. A little more than just a practice amp.
Effects:
Digitech DSP256XL. Borrowed for now but working on my own.
Ed Polzin
WWW: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/
polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu
polzin@ripco.com
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