YTSEJAM Digest 1048
Today's Topics:
1) My Setup
by Philip Jason <philip12@wharton.upenn.edu>
2) Re: Various ramblings etc...
by "Hitchcock's Other Eye" <ancl@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
3) Skyway of Nightmares...
by kylania@mail.top.net
4) kyuss...r.i.p.
by kappenm@uni-muenster.de
5) Criss Oliva
by Nathan Dayspring <tsbileci@beta.loyno.edu>
6) I vomit into the mouth of death! BLEEEAAAGH!!
by "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1042
by borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
8) Enslaved? (No DTC)
by w de boer <boer303@hio.tem.NHL.NL>
9) Saviour Machine (NDTC)
by w de boer <boer303@hio.tem.NHL.NL>
10) Pronouncing
by w de boer <boer303@hio.tem.NHL.NL>
11) ordering "Acoustic Dreams"
by drogers@ICSI.Net (drogers)
12) Mike Portnoy in clinic in Tampa
by DALESJB.HAMPTON@shands.ufl.edu
13) Dream Theater grafitti
by Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>
14) DT Video (etc.)
by constabl@postoffice.ptd.net (Marc Contrady)
15) Kyuss
by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
16) Re: YTSEJAM pronunciation
by "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
17) subscribe
by meltdown@fortnet.org (Nicholas Jasken)
18) Re: Meshuggah (NO DT CONTENT)
by Dan Kidney <dkidney@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1039
by Ken Bibb <kbibb@qualcomm.com>
20) I'm back and stuff..
by Erotomania@aol.com
21) Best 5 bands and DT interps
by fcavani@pianeta.it (Fabio Cavani)
22) Unsubscription?...hmmm...
by dgswanston@vms9.sci.csupomona.edu (Rain King)
23) Kevin
by Jarrod Kamsey-Lewis <jarrodk@up.edu>
24) say what?
by WildKoba@aol.com
25) RE: Bland Lemon :)
by haiders@kenyon.edu
26) RE: Re[2]: guitar setups
by haiders@kenyon.edu
27) My Top 5 -Reply
by "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
28) OPERATION: REVOLUTION
by Ed Reed <ereed@comp.uark.edu>
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 03:19:03 -0400
From: Philip Jason <philip12@wharton.upenn.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com,
Subject: My Setup
Message-ID: <199510180719.DAA03288@futures.wharton.upenn.edu>
This is in response to the guy who said he wanted to know about our various
setups.
Well, I am a drummer and I play Premier Signia Drums. I have two 18x22 bass
drums, a 9x10 tom, a 12x13 tom, a 13x14 tom,a 16x18 floor tom, and a 5
1/2x14 snare drum. I also sometimes add a 16x16 floor tom from an old
slingerland kit that I have for that added low end sound. I also sometimes
remove the 13x14 tom because it kind of gets in the way. I use Sabian
Cymbals. I have a 16 inch AA studio crash and an 18 inch AA crash. In
addition I have an 18 inch AA studio china and a 20 inch HH Ride Cymbal. My
Hi-Hats are CRAP! DAMN I HATE THEM! Any drumer with an extra set of decent
hi-hats who might pity someone like me feel free to send them over. I
occasionally use a cowbell in my setup but most often it isn't there. In an
interesting note, I use a seat with a back which is generally not common
amongst drummers. I don't know why, it gives great back support. Will
Calhoun gave me the idea(not personally). As far as sticks go, I generally
use Vic Firth or Promark 2B's although my favortie sticks are the Easton
Ahead Tommy Lee Studio Models. Yeah Yeah they are aluminum. I know, but I
love the feel of them. Right now these are my sticks of choice. They do
make me happy :)! Anyway, that's my set up. I know I didn't actually
diagram it but it is the basic way anyone would set up drums like that(I
know many of yuou won't know what that means, but it is too lat for me to go
diagram it).
Hope someone enjoys reading this.
Phil
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 00:36:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Hitchcock's Other Eye" <ancl@freenet.scri.fsu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Various ramblings etc...
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9510180025.A6970-0100000@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu>
On Tue, 17 Oct 1995, E. S. Ballinger wrote:
> The Silent Man (CD Single) : was this ever released in the U.K. and / or
> does anyone know where I can lay my hands on a copy. I'm dying to get hold
> of it cause it has the song Eve, on it which I haven't heard yet.
I believe that it was ONLY released in the UK (not having the FAQ handy,
I cant say for sure) We can get it here in the U.S., though not ALWAYS
easily...
> Chris Crowder wrote in YTSEJAM 1039:
> Well the CD contains:
>
> 4.ANOTHER DAY (Live) - Recorded at the Marquee in London. Not on the LatM CD.
Actually, it isnt on the German version of LatM, but IS on the Japanese
version (which, conversely, doesnt have Surrounded) but since the
Japanese version is much harder to get (and more expensive) the guys were
cool enough to put it on the Lie CD single...:)
> As to where you can get a copy, I don't know. It's not too hard to find in
> the U.K. but I don't know about in the states.
I got mine at Best Buy, and I believe that it is available elsewhere, in
addition to its being available for order.
> And finally, does anyone know of a DT discussion group on IRC? It would
> good to speak to fellow DT fans in real-time for a change!
I'm still looking myself...
Andrew
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 02:47:21 -0500
From: kylania@mail.top.net
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Skyway of Nightmares...
Message-ID: <199510180747.CAA05547@dns.top.net>
>P.S. I think YTSEJAM should from now on be said in a high squeaky voice and
>very quickly in a manner similar to that of James LaBrie on an Italian
>bootleg that I can't quite remember the name of at the moment. If you've
>heard it you'll know what I mean.
hehe, I got a german boot with that... It's called Skyway of
Nightmares... He starts out saying... "and here is... yitttttsaaayyyyyjam!!" :)
James rules!
lates
dave
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Innocence caressing me
I never felt so young before
There was so much life in me
Still I longed to search for more...
Ignorance surrounding me
I've never felt so filled with fear
All my life's been drained from me
The end is drawing near...
Mike Portnoy - A Change of Seasons - Innocence
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 09:45:34 +0100 (MEZ)
From: kappenm@uni-muenster.de
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: kyuss...r.i.p.
Message-ID: <9510180845.AA130185@asterix.uni-muenster.de>
hi there,
apart from our all-common faves besides DT ( such as Queensryche, Savatage,
Rush etc.) is there anybody who's into Kyuss and Warrior Soul as well?
I think they are two of the most exciting bands I ever had the pleasure to
listen to, so the latest news of Kyuss having broken up means a great loss
to me..
Any other mourners out there? Write to
sad greetings,
-- martin
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 03:07:03 +0000 (GMT)
From: Nathan Dayspring <tsbileci@beta.loyno.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Criss Oliva
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.951018025919.9251B-100000@beta.loyno.edu>
I noticed that a few 'jammers listed Savatage as one of their favorite
bands and one even mentioned Criss Oliva as his favorite guitarist. My
question is what happened to Criss Oliva? On A Handful of Rain, there's a
song dedicated to the memory of Criss Oliva. I take it he died, but does
anyone know HOW he died? I'm also wondering why Jon Oilva didn't do
vocals on AHoR. Was it maybe because he was too emotionally distraught
over his brother's death that he couldn't sing? I know he does some of
the keyboards, plus he co-produced the album. They have a different
singer, though I must admit I like the new singer over Jon. He sounds
sort of like James Hetfield. Jon has a decent voice, but it's scratchy at
times, at least on Streets, the only other Savatage album I have besides
A Handful of Rain.
Anyway, I DO recommend Savatage to DT fans. The music is excellent even
if the vocals aren't up to par with James LeBrie (then again, whose voice
IS up to par with LeBrie?). The song "Chance" on AHoR is VERY cool.
Streets also offers a nice concept album with some cool songs that rock
as well as meaningful ballads. It's not quite Mindcrime, though.
Paul
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 02:35:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: "S. Borzilleri" <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: I vomit into the mouth of death! BLEEEAAAGH!!
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.951018020855.76984C-100000@homer15.u.washington.edu>
BUT SERIOUSLY... Subject: YJ #1034
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To Geopara:
> For Guitarists that like Satch and Vai. Have you checked out Jennifer
> Batten...she is incredible and even more impressive live!
Hey, I gave her an honorable mention. I'm still waiting for a follow-up to
"Above, Below, and Beyond!" As for "live" shows, I don't think she's ever
toured the US. Anyone know if she has or will?
> I not noticed any Yngwie advocates compare him to Eric Johnson. Wouldn't
> most of you agree that you can like both (I have all their cd's) but Eric
> is a better guitar player than Yngwie? Whether he is faster is a close
> one.
I wouldn't compare either of these guys as being similar, and yes, I like
them both. As for who's faster, Yngwie blows Eric away, and that is not
meant as an insult to Eric. I can't say who's "better," but Yngwie is most
definitely "faster."
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To Steven Johnson:
> MY GIRLFRIEND AND I JUST BROKE UP AND I CAN'T GET "Another Day" nor the
> Subcon. .. "PLEASE DON'T GO!!!" OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!! HELP
> MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
Steve, when you're fighting the weight of the world, and no one can save
you this time, close your eyes. You can find all you need in your mind.
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To Edd Ballinger, Ytsedrummer:
> P.S. I think YTSEJAM should from now on be said in a high squeaky voice
> and very quickly in a manner similar to that of James LaBrie on an Italian
> bootleg that I can't quite remember the name of at the moment. If you've
> heard it you'll know what I mean.
I believe the bootleg you are looking for is "Consciously Unreal."
My favorite high squeaky part is in Metropolis, when instead of singing
the line "I've found it's all caught up with me," he says something to the
extent of, "Ay FOUNDITSA CAUDAP WIMAAAAAY."
By the way, to any ytsesingers that aren't afraid to perform in public,
this line sounds really cool if you sing it in the middle of a crowded
store. Just announce it to everyone. Guaranteed to get attention (and fast
service) from oblivious workers. For more of a demonic effect, try this
when someone comes up and asks, "May I help you?" Just be sure you look
directly into their eyes when you answer with the above line.
Or you could try the check-out counter:
"Paper or plastic, sir?"
"Actually, I think ay FOUNDITSA CAUDAP WIMAAAAAAYYYY!!"
Bafu Vai
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 10:38:49 +0100
From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1042
Message-ID: <9510180938.AA03293@beauchene.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
Sometime on Tuesday, Patricia wrote:
> I was going to respond to Graham last week, then lost the thread.
> Even though we did not get a full tour, we must remember that both
> LATM and 'Ronnie Scotts' were in the UK.
Yes, and they were both in the South-East of England. I happen to live in the South-West of
Scotland :-)
I got tickets for Ronnie Scott's gig, but there was just no way I could get down to London.
> Also remember that Europe is not so far away.
Well, not if you live in the South-East of England . . . .
Graham B.
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 13:16:44 +0100
From: w de boer <boer303@hio.tem.NHL.NL>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Enslaved? (No DTC)
Message-ID: <9510181216.AA00589@hio.tem.nhl.nl>
Dan Temmesfeld wrote:
>>P.S. Do you have a lot of Christian metal?
>
>Yes, I have all of Tourniquet, Deliverance, Stryper, Believer,
>Betrayal, Saviour Machine (great prog-art rock), Enslaved (not the
>one from Norway), Bride (not really metal), Precious Death (GC and >KX
>influenced!!!), and Detritus...plus many other bands...
>
>Dan Temmesfeld
>s1133627@cedarville.edu
Enslaved? What's that? Are they good?
BTW, Jimi Bennett is IMO a great singer, in the 80's as well as the
90's. He sounds a bit like Petra's John Schlitt.
Later!
Wietze.
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 13:24:53 +0100
From: w de boer <boer303@hio.tem.NHL.NL>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Saviour Machine (NDTC)
Message-ID: <9510181224.AA00595@hio.tem.nhl.nl>
Another Dan (cool alias!) wrote:
>>It's been interesting to see some of the other faves. SAVIOUR
>>happened to them after their first album? oh well.
>
>I didn't put Saviour Machine on my top 5 non-DT bands, but I love
>their stuff. They have another album Saviour Machine II, which is
>only available at the time as a German import. It is much slower
>than the Intense Record's debut, but it is also more progressive.
>They have a full-time pianist, and the 13 "movements" are very
>beautifully arranged; though the album is not as heavy as the
>debut...
Actually, they didn't release their second album in the States,
because they weren't satisfied with the sound. The album is being
re-mastered now, so we'll have to wait a little longer. In the
meantime, SM has released a live album and video (limited stock),
called "Live in Deutschland". I'm going to order a copy and I'll let
you know what it's like.
Later!
Wietze.
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 13:30:10 +0100
From: w de boer <boer303@hio.tem.NHL.NL>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Pronouncing
Message-ID: <9510181230.AA00602@hio.tem.nhl.nl>
Hi,
I just say I-tsee jam.
Wietze.
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 08:02:03 -0600
From: drogers@ICSI.Net (drogers)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ordering "Acoustic Dreams"
Message-ID: <v01530500acaab848a64e@[199.1.107.25]>
I would appreciate some help acquring the "Acoustic Dreams" cd. I need to
know who to order it from.
I saw DT in Houston and they were awesome. Just about the best band
recording. Jethro Tull has an incredible live performance as well.
thanks,
D
As breathing is my life, I dare not dare to stop.--John Lennon
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 09:55:52 -0400
From: DALESJB.HAMPTON@shands.ufl.edu
To: YTSEJAM@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Mike Portnoy in clinic in Tampa
Message-ID: <s084cedc.030@shands.ufl.edu>
AAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
I had NO idea that Mike Portnoy was in a drum clinic on Saturday. I go to the
University of Florida in Gainesville and would have GLADLY driven down to
Tampa to see one of the greatest percussionists of the 90's. If anyone hears
anything about him returning to Tampa in the near future (yeah right!!) please let
me know. The same applies to Dream Theatre coming to Florida. Thanks.
John
Go Gators!! :)
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 10:12:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Dream Theater grafitti
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951018101125.17079B-100000@konichiwa.cc.columbia.edu>
Dear jammers,
>Hey. Blind Melon is playing on campus (Boulder, CO) very soon.
>Wouldn't it be a pity if their tour buses ended up with Dream Theater
>graffiti all over them ;)
At first, I'd say go for it! But, I think we Dream Theater fans are
beyond that, don't you think?
Yours,
Jeff =)
<<<==============---------------<<<<<<<>>>>>>>---------------==============>>>
"You are sunlight and I, moon Jeff Chew is:
joined by the gods of fortune jc309@columbia.edu
midnight and high noon http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309
sharing the sky
we have been blessed, you and I" <--- Kim from Miss Saigon
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 09:40:40 -0400
From: constabl@postoffice.ptd.net (Marc Contrady)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT Video (etc.)
Message-ID: <199510181340.JAA09494@ns1.ptd.net>
Hello all,
I'm looking for a good quality (prefer pro-shot) video of a DT show where
they do the song "Learning To Live".
I don't have much for trade, but if someone could e-mail me with any info on
this I would be very greatly. I've been looking for something like this for
a while and no one seems to want to respond.
Not to be a pain in the ass but I'm also interested in any FW (audio or
video) concerts that are good quality.
While I'm here, I might as well give you my vote for top 5 (non-DT)
Bands:
1. Fates Warning
2. Rush
3. Kiss (grew up with them)
4. Yes
5. Kansas
(HM: Sanctuary, Helloween, Sting, Iron Maiden, Ozzy, ELP, Queensryche,
almost anything except rap and that MTV "alternative/grunge/seattle/wannabe
hippie" crap)
Guitarists:
1. John Petrucci
2. Steve Vai
3. Al DiMeola
4. Frank Aresti
5. Steve Howe
There are by far many more execellant guitar players out there and It's
impossible to limit it to five so consider this "five of my favorite", not
"my five favorite".
Thanks for any info about the boots!!!
Marc Contrady
constable@postoffice.ptd.net
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 95 15:20:02 +0100
From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: donews!nga
Subject: Kyuss
Message-ID: <9510181420.AA00910@sundoc13.software-ag.de>
Hi from a wet and miserable Germany
Regular readers of my epigraphic (go look it up if you don't know what it
means) outpourings will possibly know that I have been urging you all to
'get into' a band called Kyuss. Well, it looks like you might be too late:
I have just heard that Kyuss have officially ceased to exist as of the 2nd
of October. All of you who know Kyuss and their music and what they stood for
will realise what a loss this is.
If you never saw the band live, the party is already over. But you can still
go out and buy the albums (warning: make sure that the woofers on you noise
boxes are in good shape before playing any of this stuff).
Sorry about the lack of DT content, but I really thought other Kyuss fans
ought to know about this.
stay safe and happy listening
Neil Gallop
(nga@software-ag.de)
37 years young and still rockin'
One bright note: the new Smashing Pumpkins album is now out
PS: are there any other jammers who dive? I often have 'Pull me under' going
through my head when I start a descent!!
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 11:00:00 -500 (EST)
From: "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM pronunciation
Message-ID: <308516C1.B99D.017B.000@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
>For those who have asked about it, I believe that the correct
>pronunciation of "ytse jam" is
>YIT-see jam
>I am almost 100% sure I have heard James LaBrie pronounce it this
>way, probably on the Live in Tokyo video.
No, he doesn't even say it on LiT. I've heard from a boot (can't
recall which) that he pronounces it "it's a jam"...very fitting
pronunciation...
Dan Temmesfeld
s1133627@cedarville.edu
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 09:07:21 -0600
From: meltdown@fortnet.org (Nicholas Jasken)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: subscribe
Message-ID: <199510181507.JAA20704@linden.fortnet.org>
Please subscribe me to the ytsejam mailing list.
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"It seems strange to have to lie about a world so bright"
-Genesis
http://www.fortnet.org/~meltdown/nj.htm
http://www.fortnet.org/~meltdown/md.htm
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 11:07:03 -0500 (CDT)
From: Dan Kidney <dkidney@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Meshuggah (NO DT CONTENT)
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.951018110039.105335D-100000@red.weeg.uiowa.edu>
On request, I will post a short review about these guys as soon as I get the
album...I ordered it today (Oct. 18) and may get it as soon as the 19th.
I've only heard 3 of their songs from recent compilations, but I'll offer
a short description now. They're sort of a mix of Machine Head/Pantera
but without the "cowboy" or hardcore punk sound and they have a definite
progressive edge. Complex rhythms and interesting chord structures but
all very powerful stuff. More when I hear the rest of the album.
(dreem theeeater ruuuuules maaaaaan)
(could that be considered DT content?)
thanks all for your time.
--Dan
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 09:24:49 -0700
From: Ken Bibb <kbibb@qualcomm.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1039
Message-ID: <199510181624.JAA16157@jafar.qualcomm.com>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 95 17:08:22 EDT
> From: Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
> Subject: DT and related
> Message-ID: <9510162108.AA12715@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
>
> All right, maybe somebody can answer this question for me. when I joined
> the Jam, the welcome message says that we discuss Dream theater and related
> topics. This being quite ambiguous, I must ask. what do we mean by related
> topics? All forms of prog rock? What, what, what?
It could be that the list manager was being purposefully vague ;)
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 00:21:51 +0100 (BST)
> From: Tor Houghton (SysAdmin) <torh@celtic.co.uk>
> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
> Subject: ACOS, Kevin Moore
> Message-ID: <199510162321.AAA26057@celtichost.celtic.co.uk>
>
> Hey jammers,
>
[deleted]
>
> Er, also, how do I turn 'digest mode' off? I keep getting digests from
> the listserver. The instructions have gone AWOL.
Send:
set ytsejam mail ack
to ytsejam-request@arastar.com with a subject of "asdf".
-- Ken Bibb "Through the fire backwards kbibb@qualcomm.com Again and Again jester@crash.cts.com Return to base." Peter Hammill--"A Headlong Stretch"------------------------------
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 12:29:27 -0400 From: Erotomania@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: I'm back and stuff.. Message-ID: <951018122926_47737544@mail02.mail.aol.com>
If anyone cares, I'm back on the 'Jam. =)
Cya, -Hairball
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 18:00:13 +0100 From: fcavani@pianeta.it (Fabio Cavani) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Best 5 bands and DT interps Message-ID: <199510181700.SAA16065@ns.pianeta.it>
Well, here are my fave bands besides DT:
1- Queen (my fave group before discovering DT) 2- Van Halen (these guys know how to rock! anyway, I don't find "Drop dead legs" very progressive) 3- Soundgarden (I love odd time signatures, and this is one of the reasons why I love DT, too!) 4- Extreme (III sides to every story, as many others said, is one of my favourite albums of all time, but I really don't like the last one, Waiting for the punchline... am I the only one? And what do you know about Nuno's solo album?) 5- Nirvana, old Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains... I still like grunge.
I've just bought FW's Perfect Simmetry, and I'm going to listen to Rush... sorry for my musical ignorance..
What about Kevin having cancer?? Are you joking?? I couldn't stand it, Freddie Mercury's death is enough for me...
So what about DT's songs' musical interpretation? I've posted my little contribution some jams ago, and I hope some ytsejammers, maybe with a better musical knowledge, will post theirs. I play the keyboards, so I tend to listen to it more, and I don't understand some parts of guitar, bass, drums. Come on, post something!
Fabio
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 10:19:05 -0700 From: dgswanston@vms9.sci.csupomona.edu (Rain King) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Unsubscription?...hmmm... Message-ID: <95101810190486@vms9.sci.csupomona.edu>
Imagine the surprise I received this morning when I logged on and found this little note waiting for me.
>From: listproc@arastar.com >To: dgswanston@vms9.sci.csupomona.edu >Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE YTSEJAM > >You have been removed from list ytsejam@arastar.com. >Thanks for being with us.
Now, I know for a fact that I personally did not unsubscribe myself. Why do that, I still need to receive communication from Mike Bahr (I, however anxious and impatient, am not rude and refrained from grilling him when he stated the trouble he was having) and there are still a few good threads going on. I am not a list-server guru, so I do not know of all of the little intricacies of L-S protocol, but I do not believe it is possible for a 'Jammer to unsubscribe another 'Jammer (Ken Bibb: can you answer this for me?). The purpose of this post is not to accuse any 'Jammer of any wrong- doing, but to inform you all that this happened to me and may happen to you. 'Til whenever the light re-enters my account...
--*-- David Swanston -*- "Rain King" -*- E-Mail:DGSwanston@VMS9.Sci.CSUPomona.Edu The 4-Disc Club: ABBA, BOSTON, Dream Theater, Danny Elfman, INXS, P.M.Dawn, TestAmenT "Variety's the very spice of life." -- William Cowper, _The Timepeace_
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 10:41:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Jarrod Kamsey-Lewis <jarrodk@up.edu> To: DREAM THEATER <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Kevin Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951018103651.215A-100000@upsun19.up.edu>
That's heart stopping to hear about Kevin. Of course I, as well as the rest of us I'm sure, wish him all the luck in the world. Of course if this is true about Kevin, it would explain the crew cut that he was reported to be sporting.
Many of you think that the greatest thing in the world would be to see DT and QR perform together in a show. I however, think that it would be far greater to see Kevin open for DT, especially in light of this new news about Kevin.
Good luck Kevin, where ever you are!!!!
Jarrod Ramsey-Lewis University of Portland
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 14:02:59 -0400 From: WildKoba@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: say what? Message-ID: <951018140258_75252886@emout04.mail.aol.com>
kevin moore- testicular cancer???
and for chrissakes, enough blind melon. who cares what they have to say? some of us know they suck and have no right to slam dt. but enough! there's better things to talk about!
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 15:12:21 EST From: haiders@kenyon.edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: RE: Bland Lemon :) Message-ID: <009980F4.95CAC5C0.194@kenyon.edu>
To the person in Boulder--
ATTACK!! ATTACK!! DESTROY!! BLIND LEMON MUST DIE!!
Sean
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 15:14:11 EST From: haiders@kenyon.edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: RE: Re[2]: guitar setups Message-ID: <009980F4.D7ADD680.200@kenyon.edu>
Hey, Mike with the Carvin guitars:
Are they active? What do you think of them? I've heard a lot of mixed comments about their guitars, but I love their basses.
Sean
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 15:18:00 -500 (EST) From: "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: My Top 5 -Reply Message-ID: <3085530D.B99D.0052.000@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
>...my favourite non-DT bands...Hey! Whaddaya know!? Four of 'em are >in my sig!
to bad your *.sig ins't in your *.sig... :)
j/k, party on...
Dan
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 14:46:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Ed Reed <ereed@comp.uark.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: OPERATION: REVOLUTION Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951018140227.19611A-100000@comp>
Greetings Ytsejammers,
This message is to try to gather support and volunteers for a movement currently being organized by the name of Operation: Revolution. Some of you may have already heard of this or be helping, but for those of you that haven't, please read this message and do whatever you can to help us out. The basic goal of Operation: Revolution is to protest the current programming practices of MTV (or eMpTyV as some like to call it). I'm sure most people can remember when rock, metal, and progressive rock/metal bands got airtime on MTV. Back when Queensryche released their Empire album, several songs of that album got wide recognition on MTV (Empire, Silent Lucidity, etc.). In contrast, how many times has each of you seen videos for I Am I, Bridge, Disconnected, etc. off the new Queensryche album? Not very many I'm afraid. This is not limited to Queensryche supporters only, although it began on the Queensryche group on Usenet. The example above is just that: an example. The same thing holds true for other bands. How many of you have seen Dream Theater videos on MTV? I think personally I saw Pull Me Under once and Lie twice. These bands deserve more recognition than that. Operation: Revolution intends to send MTV a message that fans of rock and metal are still here and we won't be silent any more. Our basic requests to MTV are these:
1. More videos and less shows. After all, MTV originally stood for Music TeleVision. Cartoons and game shows don't seem to have very much to do with music.
2. More coverage for rock/metal bands. Specifically, more diversity among the videos they play. A lot of the songs they play I happen to like quite a bit (Live, Bush, Candlebox, Alanis Morissette, etc.), but I'd rather see some of the other deserving bands get their fair share.
3. Return of Headbanger's Ball or similar show. Maybe start a new show similar to Headbanger's Ball, but lean a bit more towards progressive rock/metal than always playing just death metal.
Operation: Revolution is being carried out in three main ways:
1. Snail-mail campaign. Write MTV and let them know what you think. Recommend bands to them that you'd like to see get more coverage. Tell them if you don't like the proportion of game shows and cartoons as compared to videos and music-oriented programming.
One address for this is: ------------------------ MTV's Afternoon 1515 Broadway 23rd FLr. New York, NY (I missed the zip code today, but just watch for a while yourself and you can get an address to send to.)
2. E-mail campaign. On the day of Halloween we are asking for all supporters of our goals to write an e-mail message to MTV voicing their support. It doesn't have to be fancy, but the point is to show how much interest there is out here. Try to be literate, intelligent, and non-vulgar. Our cause will see much better results if we can fill their mailbox with a large amount of intelligent mail, rather than if one guy sends hundreds of messages saying 'You suck' in the most interesting and vulgar ways he can think of. Please send *one* message to any *one* of these three addresses on *Halloween Day*.
mtvmail@aol.com *or* feedback@mtv.com *or* mtvnews@mtv.com
Please send only one message to only one of these addresses on the day of Halloween. And *please*, no vulgarity. We are trying to keep this movement on an intelligent level.
3. Most Wanted campaign. On the day of Halloween, we intend to gather as many supporters as possible and call up MTV's Most Wanted with votes for a song to be chosen. Currently, the song being favored is Anybody Listening? by Queensryche from the Empire album. We think if this song can be voted #1 on Most Wanted it will send a powerful message to MTV and to it's viewers. This facet of Operation: Revolution was only currently started, so I don't have the 800 number yet and we have yet to choose the song to vote for. As soon as this information is determined, I'll post it to here.
The important thing for the Most Wanted campaign is to support it no matter what song is chosen. We can't possibly pick a song that will please everyone, but we will try to pick the best representative song that will get our message across. Currently Anybody Listening is at the top of our list for a few reasons: great song, theme goes along with our movement, age of song helps make it stand out, never was very popular (makes it stand out more), and the roots of this movement were started by several Queensryche fans. The point is to pick a song that will stand out like a sore thumb and make people stop and take notice of us.
Now, on to the important stuff... what can *you* do to help?
If you wish to get involved in the organization of this thing, please e-mail Mick at hvaishn@emory.edu. You can e-mail me (ereed@comp.uark.edu) if you'd like, but Mick is the guy that knows what's going on and is really the founder of this. We still need lots of help getting this thing off the ground properly. Areas to be tackled: AOL, Compuserve, Delphi, Usenet, mailing lists, radio stations, etc.
If you don't wish to get involved on a large scale, we can still use your help getting this message out. E-mail all your rock/metal fan friends and let them know what's going on... forward them this message if you want. Tell anyone you think might be interested. Get the word out on the streets.
And most importantly: CALL AND WRITE MTV! It only takes a few minutes of time to write MTV a letter on Halloween or to call in a couple times to Most Wanted. We aren't asking much of your time to do this, just a few minutes to write an e-mail and to make a few phone calls. If you want to help with the organization more time is involved, but the possibilities if this thing goes well are endless... more airtime for the kind of music we like, more promotion of the bands you want to hear, more new music being released, etc.
I apologize for the length of this letter, but we feel this is a vital and important message to spread if we are to be successful. Thanks...
O:R organizer: Mick (hvaishn@emory.edu)
*=============================================================================* *This is not how I want it to end -- and I'll never be open again # * *There's no one to take my blame -- if they wanted to # *===============* *Nothing to keep me sane -- and it's all the same to you # * Dream Theater * *There's nowhere to set my aim -- so I'm everywhere # *-Space Dye Vest* *Never come near me again -- do you really think I need you # *===============* *And I'll smile and I'll learn to pretend -- And I'll never be open again # * *And I'll have no more dreams to defend -- And I'll never be open again # * *=============================================================================*
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