YTSEJAM Digest 1077
Today's Topics:
1) Ramblings ...
by larsh@tor250.org (Lars Hellsten)
2) DT Roadtrip from the South
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
3) Re: Malmsteen: Useless shred?
by Erik Wolfe <71473.371@compuserve.com>
4) Y-jam
by coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
5) Shannon Hoon
by dt@warner.ew.ny.com
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1063
by coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
7) rena@cyberspace.org
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
8) DT Northeast dates
by stahl@primenet.com (Markus Stahl)
9) RE: King Crimson
by P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1073
by borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
11)
by fitipmol@ibmmail.com
12) subscribe :D
by "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
13) frauds or real?
by "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
14) ****IMPORTANT****
by Nallegam <silenzio@elwha.evergreen.edu>
15) Replacement Musicians
by constabl@postoffice.ptd.net (Marc Contrady)
16) Graham - PINT???
by esb01@students.stir.ac.uk (E. Ballinger)
17) I WANT BACK!
by Notsinger@with.DT.any.more (Charlie Dominici)
18) Rena@cyberspace.org, etc
by "THE ALMIGHTY ONE YOU SHOULD ALL WORSHIP DAILY... <GOD@HEAVEN.COM>
19) YTSEJAM digest 1075
by "Steven Johnson, P" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
20) Replacements
by David Stebelton <ds735093@oak.cats.ohiou.edu>
21) Re: Criss Oliva
by Brian Reichow <reic0010@gold.tc.umn.edu>
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 00:18:18 -0400
From: larsh@tor250.org (Lars Hellsten)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Ramblings ...
Message-ID: <9a6_9510250043@tor250.org>
After taking in a ridiculous amount of jams over the past couple weeks,
here are my thoughts on recent threads (I'll save my comment about the
whole Shannon Hoon thing until the end since I know most of you don't
want to read it).
(1) IvanHoe -
I grabbed a sample off the prog-rock review web page. Unfortunately my
connection somehow got terminated and I only ended up with about 1/3 of
the WAV file. Does anyone know where I can FTP "IVAN01.WAV" (or the
ZIP version)? I'll try the same site ... I just seem to be having a
few problems with my SLIP connection (argh..>)
Anyway, from the 1/3 of that WAV file I've heard, this is a !!!GREAT!!!
band!! AWESOME!! EVERYONE CHECK THEM OUT, just do a search for
"IvanHoe" (not sure of the prog-rock reviews page's URL offhand). I
haven't checked if cdnow.com has their CD(s), but I hope to friggin god
they do, because this is one incredible band. I'm already ordering
Shadow Gallery's CD, as from what I've heard recently and a few months
ago, I don't think I would be disappointed.
This is the first piece of music that has gotten me so excited about
them so quickly. The other band that made this type of impresion is
(of course) DT ... these guys are simply awesome. Here I'm saying
this after only hearing 20 seconds of their music, but if all of their
stuff is this good (or close), they could come damn close to replacing
DT as my favourite band (although I'm not sure if that would be
possible), or at least coming close to I&W as my favourite album of
all time.
(2) Juvenility -
Well, whoever it was complaining about the maturity level of posts of
late, I'd happen to agree with you. But you'd be surprised at the
age of people on this list. I'm 17 myself, and I've always considered
myself one of the younger people on the list. I don't think there are
too many people my age here, most of the people on the list are in
college/university, at least.
However, the maturity level of some people lately has really become
noticable. Just relax people, calmn down, and resist the need to
flame people. Take a step back, and read a few 'jams, and read your
messages over before you post them, and think "is this really what I
want to post", and "would I want Mike Portnoy to see this if he's
reading this jam", or whatever. Anything! It's starting to get
annoying getting 5 jams a day full of flames ...
I think this list is just going through a period where people don't have
much to talk about. Bear with it, and don't give up on the list just
yet. It's pretty bad now, but a few months ago, the list was great.
You should grab an old jam from about half a year ago or so and read
it ... I think you'll find the discussion was much better then. I hope
in a few weeks all this will ahve calmned down ...
(3) Shannon Hoon -
Again, CALMN DOWN! I'm sure that the people who're putting smilies
on their messages about Shannon's death were -NOT- "smiling" when
they heard the news, nor are they making fun of him. Quite simply,
it's not very easy at all to express one's self over this medium.
One person may interpret the ":)" as the person laughing, whereas
someone else might interpret it as hinting sarcasm, or whatnot.
I dunno, maybe it's to explain, but I find myself putting ":)"'s on
my messages all the time, after certain expressions, even if I"m not
laughing, not smiling, or don't find what I'm saying even the least
bit amusing. I believe I even put a ":)" in my message about Shannon's
death (yes, I was one of the 500 or so people who posted the "news"
not knowing that the other 499 or so had found out the same thing at
the exact same time), yet I definately was -NOT- feeling happy about it.
It was simply expressing the fact that I thought it was really ironic
how this happened now, but I said quite clearly in my message that I
was a bit shocked, and couldn't really believe my ears when I heard it
(partially because of all this stuff recently though, it was hard to
believe something that ironic would happen). I still think it's a
terrible thing, even if I had no respect for the guy or his music.
I do find a couple of people's attitudes quite disturbing though. In
particular, the other LARS on the list in Germany - "maybe (I hope)
the rest of the band will be next". I mean, GIVE ME A BREAK! Would
you say that if (god forbid) one of the members in DT died? I mean,
look at Savatage. I don't know if you're a Savatage fan, but I sure
know I would be EXTREMELY pissed off and absolutely sickened if someone
said "Good, Criss Oliva is dead, I hope the rest of the band will be
next".
And to you people who're thinking about replying to any of the negative
commments, cool it! See the paragraph before the above paragraph. I
know there are a couple of people on the list who were being malicious
about it, but please, flood their e-mail box -- the rest of the list
doesn't need to hear that you're disgusted about Lars' comments. We
know, we are too. But it's not something that needs to be dwelt on like
the Kurt Cobain thing. My grandmother died last summer, and some of
my cousins, aunts and uncles were extremely upset by it, and couldn't
get over it -- I was upset, but got over it. Death is a fact of life,
and it's natural to be upset and devatated, but you can't dwell on it,
the best way to handle it is to get over it. You don't have to stay
miserable for the rest of your life to remember them.
"The way your heart beats makes all the difference,
It's what decides if you'll endure the pain that we all feel."
...
"Through nature's inflexible grace, I'm learning to live". Right?
(4) Let's just forget about the whole Blind Melon thing. There are other
things to talk about. I know it's tempting to post messages saying
"Blind Melon suck", but come on. Again, they bashed DT. So what.
This is the second time this thread has surfaced while I've been on
the 'jam and it's starting to get ridiculous ... let's just find
something else to talk about. Ditto for these top 5 lists.
(5) Despite what I said in (4), it's nice to see there are so many other
people on the list who're also into Def Leppard, Metallica and Alice
in Chains. I loved all of those bands before DT, and Def Leppard are
a great band, they're the first rock band I got into, they introduced
me to the genre way back in the 80's ... if it weren't for them, I
wouldn't have gotten into Metallica, and subsequently QR and then DT.
Although I rarely listen to any of those bands anymore, but Metallica
fans should check out the unofficial Jaymz' web page, there are WAV
files of 2 new songs they played at Donnington, "2 by 4" and "Devil's
Dance". Interesting to say the least, they don't sound at all like
anything I've heard from Metallica before, a bit more jazzy, etc.
(6) That's it for now - excuse my language, but fuck that was long!
--
Lars Hellsten <*> Internet: larsh@tor250.org <*> Dream Theater!
"Another chance to lift my life, free the sensation in my heart.
To ride the wings of dreams, into changing horizons ... "
~~~ TGWave v1.02 Beta-04+
--
|Fidonet: Lars Hellsten 1:259/412
|Internet: larsh@tor250.org
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 22:25:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT Roadtrip from the South
Message-ID: <199510250525.AA27495@crl8.crl.com>
Okay, I think I might be in on this bandwagon too. :)
A) Are there any DT fans from the Atlanta area or southward who are
interested in a (yet nebulous) plan to roadtrip up to see the show at
Malibu on Long Island?
B) You LI/NY folks, is there any way to purchase tickets in advance
for the Malibu show? I can think of no more embarassing thing than to
arrive all breathless and bright-eyed only to be met by a closed
box-office. (I once rented a car and drove up to Washington
to see Hawkwind, and the tour had been cancelled. Ooops!)
C) Current itinerary, as planned out (sorta) on IRC last night, is for
Kylania to drive over from Omaha, pick up Freeza in Memphis, and then
either down here to Atlanta or I drive up and meet them somewhere
aling the way. Fans in GA, SC, NC and TN take note.
D) An alternate plan is to fly up to see the show. Any DT fans in the
tri-state area feel like acting as honored hosts/chauffeurs? :) (I
think we'd be able to swing a hotel/motel room ourselves, though.)
E) After flying up to Detroit to see DT last November -- still my only
live DT experience -- I'm thinking to myself, "Is this really worth
it?" Well, I spent well over $250 on that trip, and even though I
didn't get to meet the band, I'd have to say FUCK, YEA. This is
something I'd really like to do. I just hope I don't lose my job for
it. :)
--
I know it's easier to walk away than look it in the eye....
I would raise a shelter to the sky...
And here beneath this star tonight I lie....
------ Dream Theater, "Surrounded" Paul C., vanyel@crl.com -----
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Date: 25 Oct 95 01:41:49 EDT
From: Erik Wolfe <71473.371@compuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@arastar.com" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: Malmsteen: Useless shred?
Message-ID: <951025054149_71473.371_CHU174-14@CompuServe.COM>
>based soley on picking speed. Then in YJ 1012 Erik Wolfe said Malmsteen
>produced "Useless shred." I have had it! Malmsteen is incredible, really.
Uh oh...I'm in trouble now!
I believe this is a free world in which I'm entitled to say what I wish to,
without risk of censorship or having my freedom of speech abridged. <Abridged
like GFTPM's transcription of "Lie">. <1st ammendment, isn't it?>
Yeah, I listened to Yngwie <or as my first guitar teacher called him, Yangwee :)
> and yes, I was impressed with his music. I had every album up until Fire &
Ice. True, he is extremely talented. But, he is "good and he knows it". He's an
egotistical boor. Don't get me wrong. Technically, he's a brilliant player,
However, his music sound slick...and at the same time, lifeless. See, with Randy
Rhoads, his music was full of emotion AND speed. Malmsteen? He's chasing his
tail and using nothing but speed... "useless shred". If I ever meet him, I'd let
him know one thing: "WE KNOW YOU'RE GOOD! GIVE US A FUCKING BREAK, ALREADY!"
Can't teach an old dog new tricks, though...
Someone pass the Advil, please...
That's my opinion, which I am entitled to as a free citizen at either home, here
or overseas.
Erik
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 23:23:26 -0700
From: coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Y-jam
Message-ID: <199510250623.XAA07976@ix2.ix.netcom.com>
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From: coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1061
To: ytsejam@arastar.com
>From: "Randall W. Aquino" <aquinor@pacificu.edu>
>Subject: DT and Christianity
>Someone was inquiring about the use of Christian themes in Dream
>Theaters songs, well I think this is a good thing. At least they
>aren't talking about negative things that don't set a good example for
>people. Even if DT aren't Christians I think it's cool that they talk
about Christian themes. Does anyone know if DT are Christians?
>
>Randy
Randy:
Please point out when/where DT uses Christian themes in their lyrics.
What songs? I don't believe DT uses Christ-like themes in their music,
though there might be hints of Christianity laced in some songs. As
for positive themes, I don't neccesarily believe DT has a greater
percentage of positive over negative emotions in their music. Take the
Time is a type of New-age thinking. "you can find all you need in your
mind, if you take the time". Scarred and Space Dye Vest is very
depressing to me. LTL is somewhat positive though John M. is also
pointing out how wicked this world can be.
Christians look to Jesus Christ to "find all they need" to live by.
Our finite minds are limited to the here and now. When a Christian
seeks wisdom from God through Jesus he/she is "finding" what they need
from a far greater source than that of their own mind. I can sight
other examples to this effect. I can also find anti-Christian lyrics
in alot of their songs, e.g. Voices, ACOS and Afterlife to name a few.
As for knowing if DT are Christians or not; the Bible says you can
judge a tree by the fruit it bears. No one knows the heart of man
except God, so only God and that person knows for sure. As for the
fruit DT bears I would have to say that though they may believe in God,
they probably do not have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ
which would make them Christians. There are at least four song writers
in the band and by judging what they have written I would say they do
not have that aforementioned relationship with the Almighty God. I
love it when they perform "O Holy Night" which is the only Chistian
oriented song I believe they perform.
Your welcome to write me directly to further discuss this if the
Y-jammers get annoyed with this thread. Some Y-jammers are very
sensitive when one talks of Christ on this list. Hopefully everyone
will recieve this with an open mind and continue it.
Michael C.
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 00:28:48 -0700
From: dt@warner.ew.ny.com
Subject: Shannon Hoon
Message-ID: <199510250728.AAA18646@netcom.netcom.com>
And so one last time... the Crimson Sunet...
t}
DT
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 23:46:49 -0700
From: coghlanm@ix.netcom.com (Michael Coghlan )
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1063
Message-ID: <199510250646.XAA03323@ix11.ix.netcom.com>
>which brings me to another point......lighten up people
>this is not a flame at all (and even if it is, I really don't give a
>shit), but making judgments about the language people use is really
>ignorant (calling FW tasteless for putting that on the CD, or DT
>disappointing for using fuck in one of the songs) and retarded....
>if you don't like it, then don't listen to that particular
thing...re-dub
>it and censor it for yourselves....
>
>i for one am sick of hearing it, and i'm sure im not the only one....
>mm...i was gonna put something else down too, but i forgot...shit
Al:
I suppose you didn't read the interview with J. Labrie on the subject
of profanity. I guess that makes you ignorant to what has been said on
this subject based on what I just read from you. I'll send it to you
if you would like. Contact me directly. I am sick of hearing
potty-mouths on the Y-jam like yourself and I try to overlook it most
of the time. If you don't like when people discuss their
dissapointment with bands who they esteem who use gutter talk,then you
can skip reading it. I get tired of reading airhead statements like
the one above. If you forgot something why waste our time with a blank
thought?
Michael C.
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 01:06:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: rena@cyberspace.org
Message-ID: <199510250806.AA29893@crl8.crl.com>
I tried fingering the address and got all sorts of info, but so what?
Anyone can put anything in their .plan and .project files.
I noticed an alternate address was provided, @berklee.edu. I decided
that was unlikely so I tried nslookup on the site. "Nonexistent
domain."
Preliminary conclusion: The message is a slightly clever forgery.
:)
--
I know it's easier to walk away than look it in the eye....
I would raise a shelter to the sky...
And here beneath this star tonight I lie....
------ Dream Theater, "Surrounded" Paul C., vanyel@crl.com -----
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 21:56:59 -0700 (MST)
From: stahl@primenet.com (Markus Stahl)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: DT Northeast dates
Message-ID: <199510250456.VAA05428@usr2.primenet.com>
Could someone post the three dates for the 3 upcoming shows. Include
date, venue and city, state the show will be in. I'm out on the west coast
but will be home for the holidays and might just have to drag my brother-in
law to see them...
thansks in advance
-Mark
***************************************************************************
Markus Stahl - stahl@primenet.com
"Spread before you is your soul,
So forever hold the dream within our hearts.
Through nature;s inflexible grace,
I'm learning to live."
-John Myung
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 08:43:01 +0000
From: P.McLoughlin@bra0108.wins.icl.co.uk
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: RE: King Crimson
Message-ID: <"3780*/I=P/S=McLoughlin/OU=bra0108/O=icl/PRMD=icl/ADMD=gold 400/C=GB/"@MHS>
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I saw them at the Royal Albert Hall in London earlier this year.
They played just about all of "Thrak" and a good deal of
"Discipline". I was a little disappointed that there was nothing
from "Beat" or "Three of a Perfect Pair" although I understand
that songs from these may be introduced later in the tour.
Adrian Belew dominates; his guitar parts are easiest to determine.
Robert Fripp, unlit, and Trey Gunn are harder to distinguish - the
arsenal of sounds at their disposal make it virtually impossible
to categorise who is playing what.
It's not a traditional crescendo-building show. The only pre-Belew
songs, "Red" and "The Talking Drum/Larks Tongue in Aspic II" don't
take top-billing in either the main set or encores. You may
consider the final encore a slight anti-climax.
The standard of playing and arrangement throughout is exemplary,
making for a clinically-perfect, if rather cool and detatched
performance; a welcome warmth and intimacy drew from the fact that
I saw them on Bill Bruford's birthday which led Belew to improvise
spontaneous new lyrics to "Indiscipline".
It's a powerful, precise, and occasionally rather frightening
show. Avoid imbibing hallucinogens beforehand at all costs!
Patricia
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 11:43:44 +0100
From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1073
Message-ID: <9510251043.AA00673@beauchene.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
Patricia wrote:
> > I'm counting the days to 14th December. (Joe Satriani ?)
> How far are you from Sheffield ? I've decided to make the trip
> there on Dec 11th to see Joe as it is a small venue, it has not
> been promoted locally so there are good tickets. That means I
> will see Joe Dec 7, 10 and 11 !!! - I hope it does not snow by
> then ! Patricia
Errrm . . . where's Sheffield (relative to the Scottish border)?
If you want to go to the Glasgow gig, you can fly London <-> Glasgow for 29 pounds one-way,
or something. Damn cheap!
The SECC in Glasgow is a big venue. It's an eyesore.
Graham B.
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 07:11:44 EDT
From: fitipmol@ibmmail.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Message-ID: <m0t83kO-0000OyC@donews.cts.com>
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Well well well....
When I started the "5 non-DT fave bands" poll, I did not
realize that so many of you were going to participate. Thank
you for your interest. Most of us were probably totally sick
of reading nothing but other people's fave bands in the 'jam.
But believe me, no one was more sick than I was...you had the
option to skip all the poll postings. Like someone said before,
I REALLY DID ASK FOR THE VOTES TO BE MAILED TO ME!! Anyways,
I staggered through them and as everyone knows by now, our
collective non-DT faves turned out to be RUSH, QUEENSRYCHE,
FATES WARNING, and surprise, no Yes and Genesis here, but
METALLICA and finally VAN HALEN. A total of 211 bands got
votes.
I'm not too much into this "what's my instrument setup"-thing
either...I'm a drummer too, but I don't see a reason why the
hell should everyone be interested in my kit setup. Nor am I
overly enthusiastic about any other poll. I humbly suggest that
these uninteresting top five-polls should be put to death or
at least kept out of Ytsejams. If I offended someone, so sorry.
KEEP THE POLLS OUT OF YTSEJAMS! IF YOU START A POLL, DISQUALIFY
EVERY VOTE NOT POSTED TO YOU DIRECTLY! OR EVEN BETTER, NEVER
START ANOTHER POLL! TOP FIVE LISTS SUCK! IF YOU DISAGREE, FLAME
ME DIRECTLY BUT KEEP FLAMES AND POLLS OUT OF JAMS! END OF SERMON.
Yours humbly,
Mape
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 07:15:00 -500 (EST)
From: "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: subscribe :D
Message-ID: <308E1C9F.B99D.0FDE.000@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
[hey, computer, ignore it this time...]
subscribe blind-melon-ytsejam-listserv Dan Temmesfeld
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Come on guys...don't you think it's enough? Sure, they did rip JP
and DT, but that is their opinion. Their singer died, but we on the
'Jam can't acknowledge that he was a human being, too. I might not
have liked BM or their attitudes towards DT and JP's playing; but
that doesn't mean that I would go graffitti their bus or mock them
for Mr. Hoon's death...
Well off of my soap-box...
(the "gods" must have been angry at BM, but they should've taken out
the guitarists too...) [sorry, I'm a hypocrite...too]
Dan Temmesfeld
s1133627@cedarville.edu
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 07:18:00 -500 (EST)
From: "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: frauds or real?
Message-ID: <308E1D3E.B99D.0FE1.000@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
Well, now we've gotten mail from John Petrucci *and* Mike Portnoy. I
don't doubt that they *could* get access, but it is also very easy
for another prankster to change their mailing name...
Can someone confirm these...
Dan Temmesfeld
s1133627@cedarville.edu
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 05:29:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Nallegam <silenzio@elwha.evergreen.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ****IMPORTANT****
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.951025052634.24733A-100000@elwha.evergreen.edu>
Check this out!! I was... Uh... Wait a minute...
I had something really important to tell everyone, but I seem to have
forgotten what it was... Sorry.
Bye.
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End of YTSEJAM Digest 1077
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Fooled you.
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 08:00:58 -0400
From: constabl@postoffice.ptd.net (Marc Contrady)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Replacement Musicians
Message-ID: <199510251200.IAA14833@ns1.ptd.net>
In response to a post in #1070:
>So who is worthy enough to sit in for a member of DT for a couple of shows?
>Whose hands would you place this most daunting task within? Do you think
>anyone can do it? If you don't say so, and state your reasons. "Because
>they're gods," won't cut it, though that statement is not that far from
>the truth.
>
>************************************************************************
>Elliott Kim Florida International University
>ekim01@fiu.edu
>************************************************************************
If a replacement had to be found, I think the best to cover the job(s) would be:
LaBrie: Michael Kisk (spelling?) Formerly from Helloween.
Incredible range
(anyone who has never heard them and if you love singers,
check them out)
or
The guy from Metal Church (forgot his name)
I think he has a very strong voice. Doesn't sing as high as
Mike Kisk most of the time, but can do it when he has to.
(Ray Alder - FW, Sebastian Bach - Skid Row)
Portnoy: Mark Zonder - Fates Warning
IMHO one of the best progressive/haevy metal/hard rock drummers
Plus these guys are friends, so I assume he's familiar with
the songs
Sherinian: Rick Wakeman - Formerly of Yes
My personal favorite progressive/rock board player. An
obvious major influence on Moore and Sherinian
Check out his solo on "An Evening of Yes Music - Featuring
Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman, and Howe"
Petrucci: I really can't recall any guitar players that play like him.
He has a style all his own, and although many players would
be able to closely duplicate what he plays I don't think it
would "sound" the same without him playing it.
Maybe Steve Morse or Steve Vai because these two seem very
versatile.
Myung: I feel the same way about him as I do Petrucci.
Steve Harris - Iron Maiden (I don't know, he just popped
into my head)
This is only my personal opinion. No flames please. These are people that
I feel would fit "OK" in replacing these guys temporarily.
Any responses welcome.
Thanks for your time.
Marc Contrady
constabl@postoffice.ptd.net
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 12:51:32 +0000
From: esb01@students.stir.ac.uk (E. Ballinger)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Graham - PINT???
Message-ID: <v01520d03acb3e25f4196@[139.153.41.153]>
hehehe 8^>
in 'JAM 1073 big GB wrote:
>Edd wrote:
>> I'm going to the Satch gig at the SECC in Glasgow on 14th Dec. Do any
>> jammers who are going want to meet up?
>
>OK, if you buy me a pint.
Pint? That made me laugh man!
No problem! (80% ?) Roll on Dec 14th!
Edd.
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 13:10:23 +0000
From: Notsinger@with.DT.any.more (Charlie Dominici)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: I WANT BACK!
Message-ID: <v01520d06acb3e68e3d45@[139.153.41.153]>
It's just not fair! Ever since I left DT I've been forced to work in a
take-away pizza joint for $1.25 an hour. I can't take it any more! I want
back in! I'm much better at singing than that damn James LaBrie. I mean,
what kind of surname is that for a lead singer? LaBrie - I bet he has a
smaller cock than me! Round here they call me the italian stalion! Time to
go.
:)
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 08:09:51 C
From: "THE ALMIGHTY ONE YOU SHOULD ALL WORSHIP DAILY... <GOD@HEAVEN.COM>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Rena@cyberspace.org, etc
Message-ID: <00998639.B95A6FA0.3@iowa.physics.uiowa.edu>
Please people, don't believe that the message was from Petrucci... I mean, any
mental midget with a pc or mac can fake email with very little know-how. It's
also easy to do on Unix and VMS machines (IBM mainframes a little tougher). It
all comes down to the fact that the receiving machine trusts the sending
machine to be honest about who sent the message...
I remember working in SUNY Albany's computing center, and I'd get mail from
GOD@HEAVEN... "Oh, that's just Derek fucking around, guess I'll send him a
reply from SATAN@HELL.666" :^)
Does anyone really believe Petrucci would quote himself in a real message?!
Jeez...
Chrisf
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Date: 25 Oct 1995 09:01:09 GMT
From: "Steven Johnson, P" <svjohnson@amoco.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1075
Message-ID: <199510251402.AA10995@interlock.amoco.com>
*** Reply to note of 10/25/95 05:13
The latest BMG Music catalog (kinda like Columbia House) has a huge section
celebrating Berklee School of Music alumns. Melissa Ethridge, Quincy Jones,
Aerosmith (2 of 'em went there) and others.....BUT NO DT!!!!!!!!!! Guess we
have a new "enemy"! LATER-
Steve
p.s.--I guess it's the school's 40th or 50th anniversary. Anyone? Beuhler?
***************************************************************
You're fighting the weight of the world and no one can save you
this time/Close your eyes 'cause you'll find all you need in
your mind -- Dream Theater, "Take the Time"
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 10:24:57 -0400
From: David Stebelton <ds735093@oak.cats.ohiou.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Replacements
Message-ID: <9510251424.AA20223@oak.cats.ohiou.edu>
This is my first posting so if its been asked befor forgive me.
Does anyone know What (if any) CD I could get the show that's on the DT video
tape. I'm especially looking for the To Live Forever track. For some reason the
sound quality is not very good on VCR's (kidding).
I agree with Sean Haider that Elliot's idea was great. I also agree that Billy
Shehan (sp?) would be an ideal choice but I'm wondering about Neil being a
choice. As a drummer who believe there is no one that rakes higher in the
drumming catagory as Neil for his influence, i have to say that i'm not sure
that Neil would have what it takes to play Mike's stuff. Tim Alexander would
kick the grove like a mf and he'd probably be my first choice. Please don't get
me wrong about Neil, I agree with all however many Modern Drummer polls that
put him on top.
As for Jeff Tate, I can't say that it would suck to see him sing with the band
for one night.
Last! Is there anyone around Ohio on this? If so let me know. I'm near
Columbus.
Later guys and support Op-Rev!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 09:56:49 -0500
From: Brian Reichow <reic0010@gold.tc.umn.edu>
To: "Ytsejam Digest" <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: Criss Oliva
Message-ID: <308e502f2909002@gold.tc.umn.edu>
>The late Criss Oliva from Savatage was killed in a car accident near his
>home in
>Florida. He and his wife were on their way home from a rock festival in Fla.
>which Savatage just finished playing. They're car was struck by a drunk
>driver.
>Criss was killed almost instantly and his wife was critically injured and
>in a
>coma, last I heard. I don't know her present condition.
No, no, no. He had been attending the rock festival as a spectator
(Savatage had *not* been playing there); Dawn Oliva, his wife, recovered
from her critical injuries.
Brian (keeper of the Savatage FAQ & discography)
Savatage WWW Site - http://www.d.umn.edu/~tsands/savatage/savatage.html
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