YTSEJAM Digest 1072
Today's Topics:
1) blind melon dude
by "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tam2000.tamu.edu>
2) Shannon Hoon (or whatever his name was)
by brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken MacLeod)
3) mailto:ytsejam@arastar.com
by "IT'S BETTER TO BURN OUT, THAN FADE AWAY" <RWWALLACE@SGCCVA.SUNYGENESEE.CC.NY.US>
4) mailto:ytsejam@arastar.com
by "IT'S BETTER TO BURN OUT, THAN FADE AWAY" <RWWALLACE@SGCCVA.SUNYGENESEE.CC.NY.US>
5) Moral Musings
by jpgarrett@earthlink.net (James Garrett)
6) Who are we?
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
7) BIG ASS UPDATE - AD, WDATU, CYG
by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
8) Losers
by rollo@qdeck.com
9) *****IMPORTANT*****
by Bucketbot@aol.com
10) Opinions of death
by "Randall W. Aquino" <aquinor@pacificu.edu>
11) Interesting
by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 00:31:08 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Brian V. Cox" <bvc8995@tam2000.tamu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: blind melon dude
Message-ID: <199510240531.AAA29244@tam2000.tamu.edu>
well, me and my friend jonathat drove by number's in houston on friday
night, where blind melon played their last show before the singer died.
we were thinking about stopping and spray painting the tour bus with a
majesty symbol or something (well at least i was) :) so i hope it wasnt
the negative thoughts that i threw his way. oh well.
btw, the place, "numbers", that they played their last gig at is only
two blocks down the street from the tower theater, featured in the
live in tokyo video.
really pisses me off...the tower theater is turning into a video rental
store. it was one of my favorite venues, and was the place that i first
saw king's x and galactic cowboys, as well as the place i saw dream theater
play at 3 times. it will be missed...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Brian V. Cox~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I built a wall around my garden Rush
When people started telling me what to grow, Dream Theater
It's cold and callous and throws a heavy shadow, King's X
Over the field I choose to call my own Queensryche
I hate the wall and its selfish display echolyn
My garden becoming sterile in its pretentiousness, Fates Warning
My direction lost in shallow righteousness Tori Amos
There's something wrong with this... DAT Taper/Trader...
Suffocating the bloom...and every blossom" -echolyn
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~lerxst@tamu.edu~~~~~~~http://http.tamu.edu/~bvc8995~~~~~~~~~~~
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 23:48:40 -0600 (MDT)
From: brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken MacLeod)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Shannon Hoon (or whatever his name was)
Message-ID: <9510240548.AA127526@lamar.ColoState.EDU>
I have only two words to describe my feelings about Shannon Hoon's
"untimely" (whatever the hell THAT means) death. So what. I can describe
everything I ever knew about the man and his music in one word. Banal.
Let's get back to something that moves me. Dream Theater's music.
By the way, I simply don't care that he's dead not because his bandmates
are narrow minded cretins when it comes to opinions concerning artistic
ability, but rather because I JUST DON'T CARE. His death neither amuses nor
saddens me. He's no one of consequence on this list. Let's move on.
My last words. Hairball, I'm behind you on the =) thing. Why should
the dead get a moment of silence? Fuck the dead! Let's have a moment of
muffled conversation for those who were treated and released. (George
Carlin reference.)
:)
But seriously folks, having a little respect for the living is a more
pressing issue than respecting the dead. Let's face it, SH is worm
food. Let's get back to the band members that we LIKE.
Slainte mhath,
Bracken
P.S. If I offended anyone, I guess that's the breaks. I didn't intend
to, but I'm not sorry.
"...Without music, life would be an error."
Nietzsche -Twilight of the Idols-
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 2:04:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: "IT'S BETTER TO BURN OUT, THAN FADE AWAY" <RWWALLACE@SGCCVA.SUNYGENESEE.CC.NY.US>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: mailto:ytsejam@arastar.com
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 2:05:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: "IT'S BETTER TO BURN OUT, THAN FADE AWAY" <RWWALLACE@SGCCVA.SUNYGENESEE.CC.NY.US>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 23:49:00 -0700
From: jpgarrett@earthlink.net (James Garrett)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Moral Musings
Message-ID: <199510240649.XAA19537@atlas.earthlink.net>
One disgruntled jammer wrote:
>
i thot DT would warrant an
>intellectually stimulating discussion forum, with some fun stuff thrown
>in. talk a bit about their music, the band, shows and cds, meeting place,
>whatever. i could never have anticipated the level that discussion has sunk
>to: blind melon this and blind melon that, punk sux, kevin's got cancer,
>female guitarists suck, DT's a hair band, grunge blows, the list goes on.
>the best i can look forward to is the latest update on Mike Bahr's CD
>mailout, and i can't even afford to check out one of those cool-sounding
>CDs.
>
How about this for something "intellectually stimulating:"
There has been a thread going around that DT uses a lot of Christian
symbolism. However, they also use some very pagan symbolism also, the
reference to Cassandra for example. How does the justaposition of the Pagan
with the Christian make DT's music more powerful or does it detract from it?
I have a comment on the symbolism of the burning heart (I'm looking at the
Live at the Marquee CD). I liked the connection to the Trinity made by
several jammers. However, both the heart(wooden) and the barbed wire are man
made, suggesting artificiality, and implying that religions are man made and
that our current religious beliefs will be transformed(fire is a symbol of
transformation) into something we cannot yet imagine by the music.
Rob writes:
>Hello all,
> I just got through Ytsejam 1065 in which several people revealed
>that Shannon Hoon of Blind Melon was found dead on their tour bus. I
>noted that at least three of these messages expressed some kind of
>positive reaction to this. I have eight words for you people: WHAT THE
>FUCK IS THE MATTER WITH YOU??? This is a HUMAN LIFE we are talking about
>here! Somebody commented that he "didn't give a rat's ass about someone
>who acted the way he did" and that he wished some of the other band members
>would follow. Praytell, what major offensive moral infraction did
>Shannon Hoon commit? Was he a ruthless dictator of a third-world
>country? A serial rapist? A child molester? Oh, I'm sorry; that's
>right--a couple of his bandmates made fun of your favorite band! Oh, the
>humanity! If I'm correct, his death is also going to leave a child
>fatherless. But that's okay, right? His band didn't like Dream Theater;
>they're not worthy of life...you make me fucking sick.
>
>--ROb
>
>
He was irresponsible, not immoral. I have to admit, that I used to
occasionally use drugs, but now that I am married and have a child, I chose
not to. Not because I think that drugs are evil, but because I know that
they are dangerous and that my family depends on my being there.
1. Shannon Hoon knew the dangers of drugs (how can anybody not know with all
the advertising and educating going on?)
2. Shannon Hoon knew that he had a family (at least a child according to the
above report).
3. Shannon Hoon did drugs anyway.
4. Shannon Hoon's family pays the price.
He put his pleasure over the wellfare of his child; that is what should make
you fucking sick. He had a choice. His child did not choose to be without a
daddy. I have no remorse for the guy, but I feel deeply for his child.
It is ironic that his death happened when we were doing alot of Melon bashing.
James Garrett
________________________________
jpgarrett@earthlink.net
This album contains material which
a truly free society would neither fear
nor suppress.
Frank Zappa
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 01:13:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Who are we?
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.951024010924.85366A-100000@moose.uvm.edu>
Yeah, yeah, this has probably been done before, but I'm new here, so cut
me some slack. I just thought it would be interesting if we all posted a
little bit of biographical info about ourselves. You know, see who's out
there. So, here goes:
I'm a 23-y-o male. I'm from Rockville Centre, LI, NY. I'm a Master's
Degree student at UVM in Computer Science. I've been playing bass for
about 8 years, and acoustic guitar for about 3.
Any other interesting facts we should include? Oh, yeah...
I'll be at the Malibu on 12/28!!!!!!!!
AMF!
-Chris
"On the day I die, thank God my soul will be released" - Blind Melon
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 22:27:51 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: durnik@indirect.com
Subject: BIG ASS UPDATE - AD, WDATU, CYG
Message-ID: <199510240527.WAA23121@bud.indirect.com>
LIMITED EDITION COMPACT DISCS
Information and Update
Current to 10/13/1995
Currently available: Rush "Cygnus" and Dream Theater "Acoustic Dreams"
Currently open to pre-ordering: Dream Theater "When Dream and Today Unite"
NOTE: INTERNET EMAIL ADDRESS CHANGE: I am now durnik@indirect.com
============================================================================
DISCLAIMER: These recordings fall into a grey area of law as an uncopyrighted
recording produced in such a manner that at least one facet of the production
occurs in a country (namely Italy) in which it is legal to do so. In the USA,
it is permissible to sell used import CDs only if they are labeled as such.
This is such a CD. Be aware that the various powers-that-be are collecting
nothing for this.
============================================================================
Of course, that's all cover-my-butt lawyerspeak. I hope you all will
want to be a part of this. I make roughly minimum wage doing it, so you know
I'm not out to scam you. In all humility, I appeal to anyone who might not
think too kindly of my endeavor, and ask that they might give me the benefit
of the doubt on this one. Friends? :)
1. What is Acoustic Dreams?
2. What is Cygnus?
3. What is When Dream And Today Unite?
4. What is the release schedule?
5. How can I get my own copy of one of these CDs?
6. Orders received for Acoustic Dreams and When Dream and Today Unite.
============================================================================
1. What is Acoustic Dreams?
Hi all! Allow me to introduce myself, if you aren't familiar with me
yet. I'm Mike Bahr, humble maker of special-edition CDs. I noticed a lot of
the mass-manufactured bootleg offerings were spiralling quite high in price
and yet offered little for the die-hard fan, and I concocted a scheme by
which I could make around minimum wage by producing CDs on my own, CDs that
would fill the demand for REAL rarities and special songs, unreleased items,
live shows, and the like.
Basically, since no CD plant will print them for me, I have to rent
studio and equipment time and do it myself. So far, it's working. :)
Fortunately, and for this I am very relieved, my Subconscious CD
has been incredibly well-received by the net community, especially the
Ytsejam mailing list. I just do what I can do and leave the rest up to God,
and I guess the Almighty isn't disappointing you folks. People from all walks
of life, all countries of the world, both sexes, all races, and all religions
have joined in on the Subconscious and Cygnus projects, and I am very happy
to have you all along for the ride. I'll keep making CDs as long as you folks
are willing to keep buying them. Thanks so _very_ much... :)
And now, I have Acoustic Dreams on tap.
Well, this is the current CD I've made, also known as Dream Theater
Unplugged. We were given a VERY high-quality soundboard tape of DT's recent
Unplugged performance in Europe, and it can only be fully expressed in the
form of a CD. Trust me. :) I am fervently hoping that the finished product
is well-liked.
Acoustic Dreams
1. Another Day
2. Lifting Shadows off a Dream
3. Wait For Sleep
4. The Silent Man
5. Lie (boogie version)
6. Tears (Rush cover)
7. O Holy Night
Electric Extras
8. Perfect Strangers (with Bruce Dickinson on vocals)
9. 6:00 (performed in session with a much better mix)
10. Caught In A Web (another better performance)
Bonus Tracks (acoustic)
11. Voices (just a small part of it was all there was) acoustic
12. Bad (U2 cover) acoustic
I hope that once you've heard it, you will, like me, have your
breath taken away by the beauty of the acoustic tracks and the clarity and
sharpness of the electric mixes.
Note: The CD says "Majesty" and not "Dream Theater" on it. This is
for legal reasons. Majesty was DT's original name anyway. It may not be
current, but it works.
2. What is Cygnus?
It is a Rush recording from the mystical Hemispheres tour of 1978.
I still have some copies available. It was recorded from a soundboard reel
and the quality is comparable to that of Electric Ladyland '74. It's full
stereo and the bass and vocals are very clear, the effects very defined, but
the drum sound has heard better days. It's still better than 99% of all the
Rush shows on tape, I can attest to that specifically. :)
Track listing:
1. Anthem
2. A Passage to Bangkok
3. By-Tor and the Snow Dog ->
i. At the Tobes of Hades
ii. Across the Styx
iii. Of the Battle
4. Xanadu
5. Something For Nothing (glitch at end, missing nearly nothing)
6. The Trees
7. Cygnus X-1 (dropout at end, missing last 16 secs before bells)
8. Cygnus X-1 Book II: Hemispheres
i. Prelude
ii. Apollo
iii. Dionysus
iv. Armageddon (dropout at end, missing ~40 secs of closing)
v. Cygnus
vi. The Sphere
9. Circumstances
10. A Farewell to Kings
The dropouts aren't a big deal really, but in the interest of
honesty I am pointing them out. They were on the master reel. Also, like
Subconscious and Acoustic Dreams, this CD does not bear the name "Rush".
It says "Cygnus" on the label and lists cover credits. Don't be fooled; it's
Rush, just like the others are DT. It's for legal reasons. Before Italy
started making boots in 1991, all US vinyl boots were the same way.
3. What is When Dream and Today Unite?
This work, still in production, contains all the songs from When
Dream and Day Unite, only performed live with James LaBrie at the helm. It
should be released around Christmas. Here's the tracklisting:
1. A Fortune In Lies
2. Status Seeker
3. Ytsejam
4. Another Hand/The Killing Hand
5. Light Fuse and Get Away
6. Mission Impossible
7. Afterlife
8. The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun
9. Only A Matter Of Time
10. March of the Tyrant
11. To Live Forever
12. Moon Bubbles
Most of those will be separate like that, but Mission Impossible and
March of the Tyrant are short so they may not be divided. We'll see. I'll
try to make it as listenable as possible... after all, who ever listens to
the first part of a medley and not the second... etc.
I've already begun accepting early orders for this, if you don't mind
the wait. The details on ordering are below.
4. What is the release schedule?
Here is the current schedule of releases as I see it (all dates estimated):
NOW - Rush: "Cygnus" released/shipping
NOW - Dream Theater: "Acoustic Dreams" released/shipping
NOW - Dream Theater: "When Dream and Today Unite" ordering begins
12/15/1995 - Dream Theater: "Antiquities" ordering begins
12/25/1995 - Dream Theater: "When Dream and Today Unite" released/shipping
01/01/1996 - Dream Theater: "Scenes From a Memory" ordering begins
01/30/1996 - Dream Theater: "Antiquities" released/shipping
03/17/1996 - Dream Theater: "Scenes From a Memory" ordering begins
02/--/1996 - Public Affection: "Death of a Dictionary", details TBA
03/--/1996 - Rush: To be announced
04/--/1996 - Live or Type O-Negative: To be announced
05/--/1996 - Dream Theater: To be announced
Here are a few descriptions to keep your curiosity satiated :)
Dream Theater "Subconscious"
Released 04/03/1995 - Limited Edition - 500 copies - sold out
Contained Dream Theater rarities including A Change of Seasons.
All copies were hand initialed/numbered in gold for authenticity.
Rush "Cygnus"
Released 08/14/1995 - Limited Edition - 1000 copies - still available
Contains a rare soundboard show from the Hemispheres tour.
Dream Theater "Acoustic Dreams"
Released 09/30/1995 - Limited Edition of 500 copies - still available
Each copy is hand signed/numbered in silver for authenticity.
Contains beautiful unplugged performances.
Dream Theater "When Dream and Today Unite"
To be released 12/25/1995 - Limited print of either 500 or 1000.
Contains the songs from Dream and Day only with James LaBrie on
vocals. Collected from MANY sources and optimized for quality.
Dream Theater "Antiquities"
Details TBA - Limited print of either 500 or 1000.
Each copy will be hand signed/numbered for authenticity.
Will contain vocalist auditions, demos, errata, outtakes, unfinished
works, unreleased tracks, and the like.
Dream Theater "Scenes From a Memory"
Details TBA - Limited print of 500 copies.
Each copy will be hand signed/numbered for authenticity.
This could wind up being any of four or five different shows or song
collections, as there are a few soundboard tapes I'm working on to
try and get a good sound out of them.
Public Affection "The Death of a Dictionary"
Details TBA - Unlimited print
Is actually +Live+'s little-known first album, released in 1989,
two years before their 1991 breakthrough Mental Jewelry. Demand for
this one is skyrocketing, and the Jam gets first shot at it. The
only thing stopping it right at the moment is the overwhelming
demand for the DT discs and the lack of manpower on my end.
The following are all "Work in Progress" releases...
Rush other titles I'm considering (for any of the given shows):
Land's Edge, Storm World, Lifeforce, Arena of the Ancients...
Rush "A Symptom of Life" - from 12/20/81 2nd gen soundboard
Contains a LOT of neat stuff. a LOT. But very long... 2 CD set?
Rush "Concordant Crossroads" - from 3/24/81 audience MASTER in stereo
This one has unbelievable good sound quality. It's a tossup whether
to take this or Symptom, since both are so good but so similar.
Rush "Sleight of Mind" - from a remastered 6/25/75 Toronto
This tour has been very underrepresented in available material, so
who knows, if S.H.'s cleanup efforts turn out good...
+Live+ "Disenchanting Discourse" - from a 10/25/94 audience MASTER in stereo
It might be released, it might not, depending on many things. If you
would like to see it released, please let me know and let as many
people know as you can. I tend to find ways to release things when
I find an overwhelming demand for them. :) I also have an audience
DAT from 8/8/95, which is pretty damn good. I may synthesize the two
shows to get all the "Rare" songs onto the CD. (Freaks, Supernatural,
Breakin' Up, Jewelry songs, etc.)
Type O-Negative "Deathgrip" - from a 5/30/94 audience MASTER in stereo
A great setlist and decent sound. Only my worries about how many
copies I can sell prevent this. I can't undertake anything less than
a potential sellout project or I risk going under. Again, if this is
a title you'd like to see, you can make it happen. All I need is a
lot of interest, and away we go! So far I've had a few positive
replies... much much more are needed though.
Dream Theater... oh who knows, there's so much good stuff.
Possible shows:
Osaka soundboard from late 1992
Hamburg soundboard from spring 1993
various excellent DATs recorded in Texas
5. How can I order a copy of one of these CDs?
As stated before, I'm already shipping the CDs by and by. I ship
orders in the order I received your checks, so those of you who sent your
mail around when ordering began, those will be the first CDs out the
door. I usually get a couple dozen a day into the mail. Be sure to correct
this against the release schedule... e.g. I'm caught up on Cygnus so those
will turn around fast. Acoustic Dreams is still in a queue and I'm crankin
those out as fast as possible. WDATU is still in pre-order and won't ship
until the end of December anyhow.
Feel free to e-mail me to reserve a copy for you, so that your mail
will have a copy allocated to it already (and not be a victim of "no-more-
disc-syndrome"). I've still got more available.
The numbering, excepting special requests when possible, will fill
in the order I receive the mail orders. It's only fair after all. I'll
reserve a copy for someone over e-mail, but if thirty people get their
orders in before he or she does, it's not fair for me to still hold copy
#014 or whatever. You all get the idea... these decisions are just in the
effort to make it fair for all.
Please, I stress to all of you, don't miss these if you missed
Subconscious. It really does pain me to have to tell a fellow DT fan that
there simply aren't any more Sub discs to be had, especially because I would
be MORE than glad to sell one if I had it.
The pricing for all the CDs so far is as follows ($2 discount for
Cygnus if you're on the Jam.)
Base cost: $25.00 US
Additional postage USA free
Additional postage Canada / Mex $1.00 US
Additional postage Scandinavia $3.00 US *
Additional postage Europe $4.00 US
Additional postage Japan $5.00 US
Additional postage Aus/NZ/etc. $5.00 US
* Scandinavia includes Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark. For some
reason postal rates are lower than for mainland Europe or the UK.
Postal rates were changed, but the postage cost MUST ONLY BE PAID
ONCE. If you live in Europe and you order 4 discs, the cost is $104.00 US
($25.00 x 4, plus $4.00 postage) and not $116.00 US. Thus, if you have
friends who want copies, I am more than willing to help you out. :) So no
matter how many CDs you want, only add the postage cost Once.
Things are pretty simple from here. Send along a money order for
$25 bucks to my address, being sure to include a note with your name, the
address to ship to, your email address, and WHICH CDs you're ordering so I
know which ones to send you...... and HOW MANY you're ordering. As before,
international customers may use whatever means of payment is most convenient
for them, though I stress that sending cash is risky and should not be a
first option, but a backup plan. :) CHECKS: I don't really mind them, but in
the effort to be seen as a serious and responsible net merchant, I always
recommend the traceable-both-ways Money Order as a preferred form of payment.
So while checks are perfectly OK, they may or may not be the option you
choose to take.
Please make out checks and money orders to me, Mike Bahr.
The address and so on is me at:
Mike Bahr - Acoustic Dreams (or Cygnus, or WDATU, or whatever)
3175 N. Price Rd. #1066
Chandler, AZ 85224
My home telephone number, available as a courtesy to you, is
1-602-777-0501. I am usually not home on weekends (band practice) so try
during the week, between 6pm and 11pm pacific time, for best results. Also,
please use discretion when handling this number, as it is, after all, my own
home phone, and I will be very confused if a stranger calls at 3:00 AM. :)
I trust you Jammers to be cool about it, as you always have in the past.
Also... watch your time zones! I had one fellow calling at 6:00 AM. Owch!
6. Orders received.
This is NOT "reservations"... it's paid-for orders. If you have a
reservation, it's still valid, trust me. :) These are just the numbers that
are filled. Also there are a handful of "saved numbers" in there.
Acoustic Dreams
001 Master 002 Press Master A 003 Press Master B
004 Mike Bahr 005 Justin Poulter 006 Steve McMaster
007 David Fox 008 Robert Dalton 009 John Kotzian
010 Michael Burstin 011 Brian Cox 012 Scott Hansen
013 Mike Portnoy 014 Mike Portnoy 015 Mike Portnoy
016 Bracken MacLeod 017 John Nguyen 018 Nathan Bradley
019 Jeremy Smith 020 Todd Masek 021 Graham Borland
022 Mark Tedhams 023 Brian Fieg 024 Adam Japhet
025 Steve Chew 026 Kristian Reyes 027 Alan Wilds
028 Jeff Stewart 029 Matt McIntosh 030 Brian Polka
031 Stephan Dobay 032 Dale Newberry 033 Scott Hansen
034 Sanjeev Ghai 035 Sanjeev Ghai 036 Mike Robinson
037 Paul Poehler 038 Lisa Gaunt 039 Tracy Mangum
040 Jeff Forte 041 Robert Castilone 042 Bracken Odiorne
043 Jean-Francois Cote' 044 Uffe Moller 045 Steve Esterle
046 Chad Smith 047 Scott McCammon 048 David Edwards
049 Craig Newmeyer 050 Partha Mukhopadhyay 051 Dave Silva
052 Dave Silva 053 Dave Silva 054 Dave Silva
055 Robert MacAusland 056 Jason Breitweg 057 Demetris Papallis
058 Adam Marshall 059 Paul Goracke 060 Andrew Garinger
061 Alex Fraser 062 Uffe Moller 063 Fred Ward
064 Matt Masi 065 Iwahori Tomonori 066 Iwahori Tomonori
067 Michael Backof 068 Brian Ross 069 Anna Davidson
070 Kjetil Nordahl 071 Kjetil Nordahl 072 Kjetil Nordahl
073 Bill Wrightson 074 S. Johnson 075 Jaison John
076 Jaison John 077 Craig Newmeyer 078 Paul Humm
079 Jay Miller 080 Astrid De Ronde 081 Jason MacDonald
082 Scott Kuennen 083 Scott Kuennen 084 Rick Beem
085 Mike Ringelstetter 086 Conrad Chi 087 Brian Kirk
088 Brian Adams 089 Chris Freel 090 Chris Freel
091 Patrick Davis 092 Dave Fausel 093 Chris Derobertis
094 Sean Brady 095 S. Craig Caldwell 096 Andrew Stiles
097 Gregory Bunker 098 Eddie Webb 099 Edwin Million
100 Jenn Albert 101 Jenn Albert 102 Jeff Hill
103 Mike Olekshy 104 David Delmont 105 Derek Bober
106 Adam Japhet 107 Jamie Burks 108 George Fan
109 Tony Maglia 110 Stephen Soukup 111 Sookapat Niyomthai
112 David DeSalvo 113 Randy Haskin 114 Jennifer Sharward
115 Bryan Hunter 116 Bryan Hunter 117 Todd Dakin
118 J. R. McCullough 119 Jeff Chew 120 Patrick Sullivan
121 Patrick Sullivan 122 Pete Dziadzka 123 Ken Bibb
124 Jason Russell 125 Gary Ake 126 Bernd Basmer
127 Stefan Sutter 128 Chad Cook 129 Jason Danio
130 Brandon Elhai 131 Mathew Yee 132 Eric Gauthier
133 Eric Gauthier 134 Wilco Barg 135 Joe Kruger
136 Rob Pociluk 137 Brenden Thomson 138 Marton Stromgald
139 Asif Khan 140 Jarrod Ramsey-Lewis 141 Jon Kretschmer
142 Jon Kretschmer 143 Michael Pomerleau 144 Ronald Tijhuis
145 Bill Nottingham 146 James Garrett 147 Reenoitnevnoc
148 Stephane Auzilleau 149 Stephane Auzilleau 150 Stephane Auzilleau
151 Stephane Auzilleau 152 Bear Jason 153 Ken Hugo Hoili
154 Paul Cashman 155 Shigeru Yamashita 156 Brian Ross
157 Takumi Akiyama 158 John Sievers 159 David Russum
160 David Russum 161 David Russum 162 Stefan Rau
163 Stefan Rau 164 Martin Hayter 165 Martin Hayter
166 Eugene Szucs 167 Warren Williams 168 Tilman Kuendgen
169 Tilman Kuendgen 170 Tilman Kuendgen 171 Chad Preston
172 Gregory Cole 173 Heath Augustover 174 Chris Fyhr
175 Chris Fyhr 176 Chris Fyhr 177 Bill Huston
178 Tim Jensen 179 James Abraham 180 Jeffrey Smith
181 Michael Coghlan 182 Brett Owens 183 David Kobayashi
184 Elliott Kim 185 Ed Polzin 186 Sean Gill
187 Tim Altman 188 Alexis Ramos 189 James Daugherty
190 Jon Heller 191 George Bast 192 Paul Cashman
193 Ramin Miraftabi 194 Stacie Rosenzweig 195 Ryan Whitaker
196 Brian Vivier 197 Kevin Villines 198 Mike Rapazzo
199 Koby Fuessler 200 Merieke Ri Berit 201 Chris Pokladnik
202 Ties Gobel 203 Ties Gobel 204 Chuck Hanley
205 Yuji Miyazaki 206 Chad David 207 Chad David
208 Chad David 209 Bill Polymenakos 210 Greg Sands
211 Greg Sands 212 Ryan Park 213 Evelyn Lauer
214 James Abraham 215 Jun-Dai Bates 216 Carmen Pezzone
217 Carmen Pezzone 218 Tom Tubbiola 219 Ryan Skadberg
220 Ryan Skadberg 221 Patricia McLoughlin 222 Jacob Caminati
223 Rob Schenk 224 Carmen Pezzone 225 Jason Russell
226 Kevin Czarnecki 227 Randall Braun 228 Eric Marlett
229 Richie Rivera 230 David Hafke 231 Greg Pickesimer
232 Itchak Schwarzbard 233 Brian Anderson 234 Brian Anderson
235 David Carver 236 Matthew Berger 237 James Delaney
238 Matt Palzewicz 239 Mark Metzger 240 Chris Mahaffey
241 John Jens 242 John Jens 243 Jan-Michael Souter
244 Andreas Kasper 245 Stuart Booth 246 Jan Melander
247 Brian Diefenderfer 248 Jon Gibbens 249 Tim Villa
250 Brian Vivier 251 Rick Atkinson 252 Steve Chenevey
253 Evan Thomson 254 Evan Thomson 255 Evan Thomson
256 Mike Stoner 257 Brandon Vaughn 258 Dobronte Gabor
259 Dobronte Gabor 260 David Thornton 261 Dan Licon
262 Ken Maupin 263 Eiji Hirai 264 Jun-Dai Bates
265 Jeff Windle 266 Jeff Windle 267 Jeff Windle
268 Jun-Dai Bates 269 Steve Balderrama 270 Wade Craig
271 Nick Pitfield 272 Dave Plotkin 273 Howard Wiener
274 Scott Cook 275 Mark Stahl 276 Siegfried Hanisch
277 Siegfried Hanisch 278 Siegfried Hanisch 279 Jeremy Murray
280 Jonathan Larkowski 281 Sylvain Jacques 282 Sylvain Jacques
283 Sylvain Jacques 284 Sylvain Jacques 285 Damian Allis
286 Mark Ruenes 287 Andrew Schiller 288 Joe Jurczyk
289 William Barry 290 Matt Mommaerts 291 Mark Stahl
292 Mark Contrady 293 Steffen Barabasch 294 Steffen Barabasch
295 Olaf Bode 296 Marcel Berkhout 297 Marcel Berkhout
298 Raquel Darrian 299 James Runde 300 James Runde
301 Ryan Redfern 302 Ke Xu 303 John Mastin
304 John Mastin 305 Mike Bradley 306 Christopher Onjian
307 Scott Jensen 308 Colin Housing 309 Chris Crowder
310 Craig Erskine 311 Curt Harman 312 Meghan Middleton
313 Evelyn Lauer 314 Richard Fraser 315 Mike Costic
316 Fernando Ma 317 Fernando Ma 318 John D'Alessandro
319 Mark D'Alessandro 320 Sean Haider 321 Adam Bertapelle
322 Bafu Vai 323 William Rollo 324 Kevin Johnson
325 Marko Ollila 326 Bill Engels 327 George Paradis
328 David Olson 329 Anton Max 330 Philip Jason
331 Jim Dove 332 Andrew Martin 333 Jacob Caminati
334 Dan Carlisle 335 Mike Stover 336 Richard Bradley
337 Pierre Dupree 338 Doug Merrell 339 Oliver Smith
340 Dana Boisvert 341 Bafu Vai 342 David Klem
343 Christopher Hailey 344 Jason Crowgey 345 Steve Mandamadiotis
346 James Grace 347 Andrew Miller 348 Robert Quezada
349 Chris Oates 350 Keith Aspinall 351 Paul Fini
352 George Szumski 353 George Szumski 354 Christopher Merlo
355 Bill Buckley 356 Bill Buckley 357 Eric Mauger
358 Brandon Padgett 359 Jimmy Hall 360 Andrew Keegan
361 Mario de Riso 362 Jonah Lin 363 Matt Kuehn
364 Jodi Lind 365 Shamus McConney 366 Darrell Bishop
367 Adam Forsyth 391 Charlie Farrell 392 Mats Rydstrom
400 Matt Pastor 405 Philip Jason
406 Joe Lukas 412 Keith Aspinall 420 Darren Brown
421 Darren Brown 424 David Swanston 427 Ryan Brown
441 Christopher Merlo
444 Jacob Caminati 450 Richard Karsmakers 451 Richard Karsmakers
475 Joe Losby
495 Stephane Auzilleau 496 Zach Gemmill 497 Zach Gemmill
498 Zach Gemmill 499 Zach Gemmill 500 Melissa Bentheusen
When Dream and Today Unite
<soon to come>
If you see something that just isn't true, please let me know. :)
-Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com
Magic: The Gathering - Why not use Dark Ritual for the Demonic Hordes?
Illiterate? Write today for free help.
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 95 21:02:11 PDT
From: rollo@qdeck.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Losers
Message-ID: <9509238145.AA814512453@ccmail-gateway.qdeck.com>
Hello Jammers,
I have been reading, but not participating in, the Ytsejam, and this
is my first post to the Jam.
First, A few words. While observing the incredible childishness and
lack of tolerance some of the people on this list choose to exhibit,
If I were a newcomer to the Jam I would say to myself: "Wow. I thought
that the Jam was to talk about Dream Theater, not urinating on
instruments. What if they start bashing on a band that I really like?
Maybe I don't want to be on this kind of list."
This is not to say I agree or disagree with the views of Ytsejammers.
We are all different, like different bands, and obviously have wide
and varied tastes in music. That, my friends, is the Spice Of Life.
The freedom and ability to choose what we want to listen to, when we
want, and where we want makes us who we are. Yes we all have at least
one thing in common. We all salivate over DT. Some of us more that
others.
But the point I'm trying to make is that so what if one band says
something derogatory or unfounded against another band. That kind of
bashing has been, (and I'm sure will continue to), go on as long as
people listen to different kinds of music. I admit it myself. I can't
say how many times I've slammed Rap music, just because I don't like
it. But I realized that I didn't really know that much about Rap. I
had never listened to it. So, fellow Jammers, I implore you. Let's
stop this band bashing. Nothing productive comes of it (except for
some possible personal gratification, which you can easily do on your
own time).
As the Jam grows, so will the types of people who join the Ytsejam.
Let's not alienate these newcomers (not to mention current Jammers who
are fans of both DT and BM) before they see what a great DT resource
we have at our disposal. 'Nuff preaching.
Mike Bahr, thanks in advance for Acoustic Dreams. As I said to you
personally, you are providing a great service to Dream Theater fans
who just can't seem to get enough!
Thanks for your eyes. On with the Jam!
-William Rollo
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 01:38:15 -0400
From: Bucketbot@aol.com
To: Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: *****IMPORTANT*****
Message-ID: <951024013814_131353458@mail06.mail.aol.com>
Hey everyone, I had an idea. Some of you, like me, are getting sick of the
Non-DT content here. Some of you (Like me) don't give a shit about anyone
who would abuse drugs (Including Chris DeGarmo....I summon thee, flames) I
think what we all have in common is that each has his or her own opinion.
The jams are getting filled with silly things like Blind Melon articles from
17 years ago in a guitar magazine. Uh, here's my idea.... If you have
someting IMPORTANT to say, mark the subject *****IMPORTANT******. That way,
when we read the contents, we can see if there is a NEED to read the jam
right away, or save that little nugget for a rainy day. I don't have time to
be reading 63 ytsejam digests a day. I bet many of you agree. Wanna try
this?
Oh, and GET OVER IT. The Melon thing has passed. Hoon deserves NO SYMPATHY
(in my humble opinion) and I refuse to listen to moral bullies that want to
tell me how to react when an asshole dies. In my book, a quick way to make
the ASSHOLE LIST is to di drugs. That he had a family, puts him right atop
the list!
Thanx
Chris
Oh, and here comes that inevitable blank waste of space. I'm still waiting
for a fellow aol user to help me with this one. Until one does, I guess I
waste more space. Sorry.
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 22:41:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Randall W. Aquino" <aquinor@pacificu.edu>
To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Opinions of death
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951023222632.16763A-100000@tabitha.pacificu.edu>
First of all I would like to comment on the comments of others:
Hairball-
Well I wouldn't agree with your bold comments 100%, but like
you said everyone doesn't agree with eachother. Wouldn't the world be a
bland and boring place if everyone agreed with eachother? I find myself
not weeping about the death of the BM guy. But I am not happy he is dead.
I am happy that their is one less person in the world promoting the drug
scene. I DON'T HATE PEOPLE I HATE THEIR LIFESTYLES! But you made the
comment of dieing being a good thing, because this world is so rotten. I
can't agree with this at all. I love this life-why because this is the
only one we will every have here on Earth! Just because the world is
screwed up it doesn't have to effect you! Live your own life and have a
blast. Drugs, crime, and sin can be avoided while have fun. I believe
death is a thing to be fearful of. But I don't live my life in fear,
because I know what lies ahead. I think that everyone getting on your
case is a load of crap. This is America and we do have
freedom of speech, so continue on with your comments. No one else has the
balls to express what they really feel.
Matt-
I agree with you-If DT were to use drugs I would be right there
with you kicking their asses and helping them get their lives straight. I
can't see how anyone would be stupid enough to take drugs. It amazes me
how damn stupid people in this world are.
Also one last comment-Let us not forget the recent death of Jerry Garcia.
He fits in with Cobain and Hoon also. He was a promoter of the drug scene
and was an overall negative influece on people, especially the youth.
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 22:59:08 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Interesting
Message-ID: <199510240559.WAA26738@bud.indirect.com>
Seems even the Man (John Petrucci) offers his word on the death
of the lead Melon. I guess rena@cyberspace.org, real or not, must be his
wife's account. I want to retract a bit of my first statement in response
to that news... I should have waited a bit before offering my final
review of BM's music. Putting it in the same post as his death sort of
tarnished the moment.
On to other things.
You should see (or have seen) soon or shortly, a full CD update,
the first in a while. Sorry about the delay there folks. Those single
posts will from now on update you on all available CDs. Thanks to
everyone who has helped make Acoustic Dreams a runaway success the likes
of which even Subconscious dosen't compare! It's sold more CDs in less
time than the others by a long shot.
Enough Top 5 lists, please, folks. I liked 'em too, but they're
like maggots. One is interesting, but a thousand will gnaw you to the bone.
I got a chance to hear, and hope one day to possess a copy or
perhaps release, the demo version fo Learning to Live. I never thought
this song could be done more beautifully. The guitar solo after the
Whooah Oooah Ohaaaaaaa! part is overlaid with a triple vocal harmony that
brings tears to the eyes and reverberates the soul. I'm surprised they
didn't put it in the final song.
As of recently, the songs that stir within my mind are Eleven's
"Why", Tori Amos' "Upside Down", Rush's "Making Memories", and Fates
Warning's "Circles". Just something to check out if you like.
Saw Seven as many Jammers recommended. Shit!! I thought I would
have nightmares for sure, but I got lucky. Holy shit, that was one
intensely disturbing movie. Definitely a keeper when the laserdisc is
released in the spring. I hope Braveheart is out by then as well! :) I
couldn't believe that ending... seemed almost unreal. The thing was, I
remembered having to read all those books in high school and college, and
didn't remember the maniacal appeal. Ah well.
I plan on visiting Disneyland and Magic Mountain when I vacation
to LA for the Portnoy shows in November. Anything I should know or see?
Anything to avoid? Anyone want to come along?
Dream Theater: Live at the Marquee had some outtake songs that I
have managed to get copies of (thanks SA) and I think i will include on
Antiquities, if there's no objection. They are UAGM and Ytsejam.
Rush/DT/Disney parallel... I was watching The Little Mermaid on
the old laser player the other day and the haunting melody that Ariel
sings (the base melody to Part Of Your World, you know... ah-ah-ahhhh
ah-ah-ahhhhhhh, ah-ah-ah-, ah-ah-a-a-aaaaaahhhh) Is from either a Rush or
DT song, but I'm not sure which!! I don't think it was a case of ripping
off or copying in either case, but that melody was like deja vu... I
_totally_ remember hearing it in synth or guitar format. Something to
look for, anyway. For those who haven't seen TLM yet, quit using excuses
like "but I don't have a daughter" and just SEE it. It's a kick. It's
also a case of good filmmaking... something rare these days.
Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com
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