YTSEJAM Digest 1079
Today's Topics:
1) Re: DT covering Freewill?
by An Angel's Kiss... <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
2) other bands ----> The Tea Party
by "Dave D'Uva" <dduva@freenet.npiec.on.ca>
3) ****IMPORTANT****
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
4) (no subject)
by Scott Baird <IN%\"Bairds@UWPLATT.edu\">
5) *****IMPORTANT*****
by dgswanston@vms9.sci.csupomona.edu
6) Re: Dream Theater offers the ultimate in Prog-Rock excess!
by Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
7) Birch Hill Tickets, Old Bridge, NJ
by Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
8) Trey's (T-stretch's) #'ed comments
by tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
9) I'm sorry!
by borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
10) ***IMPORTANT*** read this!
by tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
11) Squashing the rumor
by psifire@netcom.com (Mathew W. Yee)
12) Criss Oliva, etc.
by Jaime Kimpton <jaimekimpton@vwc.edu>
13) Re: Malmsteen : Useless Shred?
by J Wiseman <ma5jw@bath.ac.uk>
14) Just got my Acoustic Dreams :)
by Tim Villa <tvilla@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>
15) techie question...
by TIM LODGE <LODGE_TIM@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>
16) Scarred and ACOS
by TILLOTWA@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu
17) Christian images and dope.
by Kyle Mallett <krm95g@timon.acu.edu>
18) ****IMPORTANT****
by Elliott Kim <ekim01@fiu.edu>
19) dt
by WildKoba@aol.com
20) Re: AD and stuff/Malibu DT Convention/Obsenity
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
21) sorry, not interested
by simmonsb@BELMONT.EDU (Bobby Simmons)
22) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1078
by James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:41:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: An Angel's Kiss... <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: DT covering Freewill?
Message-ID: <m0t8Ced-00006OC@crash.cts.com>
>
> I had heard sometime ago that DT had covered Rush's song, Freewill..
> Is this true, and if so on what boot is it available. I have to HAVE
> IT! 8^)
>
> New stuff in the player: Candlebox (Lucy)
how is this CD????
Anyway, has anyone heard the newest Skid Row album "Subhuman Race"?
It's really good, and Sebastian has again renewed my notion that
he is one of the premier vocalists out there....his delivery fits
songs so well......if I could only sing like that.....:(
Someone also talked about the Superior CD - this Cd is
excellent. Everything about it, lyrics, musicianship, vocals, etc. is
phenomenal. It also is premium sound quality - very impressive for what
I think is an idependent venture.....if you can, try and get a copy - you
definitely won't be disappointed - very DT/Queensryche-ish.....Bernd, you
are da man!!!!
later all,
Al Balkiewicz
vocals, Half Naked
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:29:34 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Dave D'Uva" <dduva@freenet.npiec.on.ca>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: other bands ----> The Tea Party
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9510252155.A27380-0100000@freenet>
In one of the *many* previous jams, Patricia mentioned The Tea Party as
one of her top 5 bands. COOL!! I also included them, but I seem to be the
only person on the jam who actually submitted my choices privately. ;)
Anyway, I really love this band, and I was wondering how many others out
there also do, or have at least heard of them? If you haven't, I strongly
recommend you give them a listen. The Tea Party consists of three members
who play about 30 different instruments altogether. This makes for a very
complex and unique sound. I must warn(?) you though: their music is
nothing like DT's. They probably wouldn't be considered prog, but then
again I don't even know the definition of prog anymore since I joined this
list. :) I kind of consider them to be alternative (WAIT DON'T GO YET!) in
the sense that you can't put a label on them. I don't consider bands like
Pearl Jam or Soundgarden to be alternative. The Tea Party's influences
include (among others) Led Zeppelin, The Doors, and North African music
(no, they don't really sound like Page & Plant. The exotic instruments
don't quite overpower the rock and sometimes blues sound). So if there's
anybody out there who likes/dislikes this band, let me know, we'll chat :)
----dave
--dduva@freenet.npiec.on.ca
<|><|><|><|><|><|><|><|><|><|><|><|><|><|><|>
<|> I guess the wages of sin <|>
<|> couldn't buy my meals <|>
<|> <|>
<|> --The Tea Party, "Sun Going Down" <|>
<|><|><|><|><|><|><|><|><|><|><|><|><|><|><|>
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 17:47:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: ****IMPORTANT****
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.951025174455.261402A-100000@moose.uvm.edu>
This is it! The Top 5 list to end all Top 5 lists! (hopefully)
Here goes: Who are your 5 favorite members of Deram Theater?
Mine are: (in alphabetical order)
1) John Myung
2) Derek Sherinian
3) Mike Portnoy
4) James LaBrie
5) John Petrucci
I'll compile your answers and post the results next week. Happy voting!
-DM
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* Christopher R. Merlo |8^)= *
* The University of Vermont, 211 Jeanne Mance Hall *
* Burlington, VT 05405 U.S.A. *
* cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu http://www.uvm.edu/~cmerlo *
* "Life is no more assuring than love *
* There are no answers from voices above" *
* "Take The Time," Dream Theater *
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 22:40:38 +0000
From: Scott Baird <IN%\"Bairds@UWPLATT.edu\">
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: (no subject)
Message-ID: <01HWVGTHY34Y8XG533@uwplatt.edu>
Please e-mail: IN%"Bairds@UWPlatt.edu"
Subcribe ytsejam Scott Baird
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:09:00 -0700
From: dgswanston@vms9.sci.csupomona.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: *****IMPORTANT*****
Message-ID: <95102521090018@vms9.sci.csupomona.edu>
Coolio's new album comes out on November 7th! WOO-HOO!!! I'm there!
Just thought you all might want to know. ;)
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 95 0:34:32 EDT
From: Damon M. Fibraio <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Dream Theater offers the ultimate in Prog-Rock excess!
Message-ID: <9510260434.AA31903@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
All bands can't be Nirvana.
Excuse me while I puke.
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 01:06:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Michael Backof <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Birch Hill Tickets, Old Bridge, NJ
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.951026010116.26898A-100000@umbc9.umbc.edu>
Hello Jammers,
I got my ticket for the Old Bridge show today after a bit of
persistance on my part. Fortunately the woman at Ticketmaster was really
cool about it (unlike a lot of the Ticketmaster employees I have delt
with in the past). She searched the computer and came up with nothing.
She asked me if the date I gave her was correct. I said Yes and told her
that someone I knew got tickets through this phone number. She had
another worker look on their "other system" and she found it. Apparently
they have 2 databases that aren't linked or the default doesn't have them
linked. This makes searches faster on the main system. Unfortunately if
you want an obscure concert you have to be persistant or you are out of
luck.
Later,
Mike Backof
http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 95 02:32:23 -0400
From: tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Trey's (T-stretch's) #'ed comments
Message-ID: <9510260632.AA29864@junix.ju.edu>
1)
IVANHOE!!!!!!!!!
I sampled alot of stuff from them from teh only song I have from them on my
DT web page. DOWNLOAD THEM ALL! I PROMISE YOU WILL LOVE THEM!
2)
I just heard a Sears commercial and they said "We love a change of
seasons"!!!! They were talking about new fashions or something for the
fall/winter. Cool huh?
3)
Good post Omar!
4)
>has anyone else seen the ACoS cover mini posters? they are about 10x10
>inches or so and show the front and inside covers.
I have to have one of these. I make shirts out of all of the covers (which
I could do for all or any of you also) and when the print is larger already,
it comes out much better.
5)
Got another DT fan that makes about 10-12!
____________________________________________________________________________
"...Every day there's a constant reminder of all the pleasures we shared
together. Love is not just a passing word, it's a state of heart that goes
on forever..." (Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater)
Trey Allen (T-Stretch) - tallen@junix.ju.edu -
http://junix.ju.edu/UsrWebPages/tallen/home.html
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 00:07:04 +0100
From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: I'm sorry!
Message-ID: <9510252307.AA02404@beauchene.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
Hello Ytsejam!!
I'm very srry.
I#' drunk our of my face
I can't type, i can't think, i cant even piss.
Hello!!!!!
I've been to a party, hten a bar,. thwean this lab, and #mmreting tomsemn soem emial.
shit.
shit.
Anyone going to Satch GFlasgow on 14 Dec?
I an
you can sleep on my flooor
shit i'll probably lose my account over this
Graham B. (very drunk)
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| Dept. of Computing Science |:: | http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~borlangw |::
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 18:20:34 -0400
From: tallen@junix.ju.edu (Trey Allen)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: ***IMPORTANT*** read this!
Message-ID: <9510252220.AA18593@junix.ju.edu>
1)---------------READ THIS--------------------
Has no one out there ever heard IVANHOE? I tell you, YOU WILL LOVE THEM! I
have the .wav files from the only song I have by them on my dt page (see URL
on sig.). DOWNLOAD THEM!!!! I sampled alot, (about 2 1/2 mins) but it is
worth it! About 12 mins worth of download time @ 14.4 but I promise you
will like it
Ivanhoe sounds like DT's;
Mirror
Lie
Pull Me Under
Ytsejam
Take the Time
Under a Glass Moon
Killing Hand
6:00 ect.
Not so much Metropolis or Learning to live stuff, but definatly killer!
2)
>I can't stand going into typing class and being forced to do the 'asdf'
>right hand, 'jkl;' left hand method. I can't see the keys with my arms
>crossed like that, yet they insist that's how it be done.
Heck yes! "Moore" power to ya man!
3)
> Bottom line is, sometimes sarcasm can be a fun thing (asshole)... but
>sometimes it's not taken the way it was meant.
Now flaming isn't nice. Be kind to one another :)
4)
>If it is really him (Petrucci) I think that we should all pitch in and
>get the guy a real modem - 2400, my god, that is not fitting
>as man of his state :-).
(grin)
5)
>Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 07:15:00 -500 (EST)
>From: "Daniel James Temmesfeld" <S1133627@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
>To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
>Subject: subscribe :D
>Message-ID: <308E1C9F.B99D.0FDE.000@cedarnet.cedarville.edu>
>
>[hey, computer, ignore it this time...]
>
>subscribe blind-melon-ytsejam-listserv Dan Temmesfeld
---------Thats a good one man! :) :) :)-----------
6)
>This is the first piece of music that has gotten me so excited about
> them so quickly. The other band that made this type of impresion is
> (of course) DT ... these guys are simply awesome. Here I'm saying
> this after only hearing 20 seconds of their music, but if all of their
> stuff is this good (or close), they could come damn close to replacing
> DT as my favourite band (although I'm not sure if that would be
> possible), or at least coming close to I&W as my favourite album of
> all time.
I told you so!
____________________________________________________________________________
"...Every day there's a constant reminder of all the pleasures we shared
together. Love is not just a passing word, it's a state of heart that goes
on forever..." (Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater)
Trey Allen (T-Stretch) - tallen@junix.ju.edu -
http://junix.ju.edu/UsrWebPages/tallen/home.html
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 16:12:11 -0700
From: psifire@netcom.com (Mathew W. Yee)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Squashing the rumor
Message-ID: <199510252312.QAA24146@netcom21.netcom.com>
Chad David writes:
>>It was mentioned that it may not have been John Petrucci
>>who sent that message to the jam, so I thought I would see
>>what I could find out.
I did ya one better. Read on! :)
>>I don't know how much everybody
>>knows about him, but does this look accurate, or is it all
>>an elaborate plot!
I presumed that it was a hoax, and moved from there. Considering
that there was a message that stated something to the effect that
JP wasn't connected and thought it was humorous that the rumor
existed, I figured that my presumption would be right on.
>>The one thing that I noticed was the berkelee.edu does not
>>seem to exist as a domain (no mx record that I could find),
>>not that a small thing like that proves that this isn't him.
That's because the person who is masquerading as JP screwed up the entry.
He misspelled the name of the college/site. The music college's name is
spelled: Berklee College of Music. The site name is: berklee.edu.
He obviously confused the name with the University of California's campus:
UC Berkeley ( site name berkeley.edu). The extra 'e' between the 'k' and
the 'l' that was used was the first tip off. I sort of doubt JP would
misspell the name of his alma mater.
This doesn't mean that it wasn't JP, so I asked the postmaster@berklee.edu
for a confirm. Here's what I got:
=====ORIGINAL QUERY=====
>Received: by it.berklee.edu with SMTP;25 Oct 1995 14:38:43 U
>Received: by netcom14.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom)
> id LAA09838; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 11:29:52 -0700
>Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 11:29:52 -0700
>From: psifire@netcom.com (Mathew W. Yee)
>Message-Id: <199510251829.LAA09838@netcom14.netcom.com>
>To: postmaster@berklee.edu
>Subject: Out of curiosity....
>
>I was wondering if you could do me a favor and confirm/deny a rumor that
>has been floating about the internet regarding a former student at
>Berklee. Apparently, there is someone claming to be John Petrucci,
>from the band _Dream Theater_, that has been posting letters claiming
>an address "jpetrucc@berkelee.edu".
>
>As you and I both know, this is an invalid address, but I am curious as
>to whether he does indeed have an account.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mathew
>
[my .sig deleted]
=====RESPONSE FROM POSTMASTER@BERKLEE.EDU=====
>From jsmith@it.berklee.edu Wed Oct 25 14:15:16 1995
>Return-Path: <jsmith@it.berklee.edu>
>Received: from nic.near.net by mail4.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom)
> id OAA20694; Wed, 25 Oct 1995 14:15:10 -0700
>Received: from it.berklee.edu by nic.near.net id aa18920; 25 Oct 95 15:30 EDT
>Message-ID: <n1397486994.27589@it.berklee.edu>
>Date: 25 Oct 1995 15:34:21 U
>From: Jennifer Smith <jsmith@it.berklee.edu>
>Subject: Re: Out of curiosity....
>To: "Mathew W. Yee" <psifire@netcom.com>
>X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 3.0.2
>Status: RO
>
> Reply to: RE>Out of curiosity....
>
>>I was wondering if you could do me a favor and confirm/deny a rumor
>>that has been floating about the internet regarding a former student at
>>Berklee. Apparently, there is someone claming to be John Petrucci,
>>from the band _Dream Theater_, that has been posting letters claiming
>>an address "jpetrucc@berkelee.edu".
>
>1) There is no e-mail account assigned to a John Petrucci
>
>2) The reason you couldn't find a domain entry is that is it "Berklee", not
>"Berkelee"
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Jennifer Smith
>Network Services Administrator
>Berklee College of Music
>Boston, MA
>jsmith@it.berklee.edu
Now....either Jennifer Smith at Berklee is purposely lying to me, or
we've got a definite hoax on our hands. Can't blame me for hoping.
Anyone wanna prove me wrong? JP?
As has been stated previously, it's really easy to fake mail in any number
of ways. If you've got root access to your machine, you could even set
up a false account. Just for grins, I did a quick change on my name.
Should read 'John Myung' if I did it correctly. :)
John...or is it Mathew? :)
--
!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#
^
Mathew W. Yee & "Love is not just a passing word
* It's a state of heart that goes on forever."
psifire@netcom.com !
@ _A Change of Season_
CAA E-mail Administrator # Dream Theater
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!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#$%^&*!@#
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 18:40:06 GMT+0000
From: Jaime Kimpton <jaimekimpton@vwc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Criss Oliva, etc.
Message-ID: <m0t8FQo-00001KC@donews.cts.com>
After clearing up a horrendous mess with the disk that allows me to access
my account and deleting about 30 Jams, all but the last 4, I'm back on
track, and, as usual, I have things on which to comment!
Forgot who wrote this, but you know who you are...
>Criss was killed almost instantly and his wife was critically injured and in a
>coma, last I heard. I don't know her present condition.
Since I haven't read a Jam in 2 weeks, I'm assuming that the person to whom
this message is directed posted about the anniversary of Criss' death. I
heard about it the evening after it happened, and it was hell of a shock;
Savatage was one of the first bands that got me into true metal. I used to
communicate with the president of their fan club in Germany, Chris Greiner,
fairly regularly back then, and from what she told me at the time, Dawn
Oliva was in pretty bad shape. I don't remember the whole inventory of
injuries anymore, but she was out of the hospital by around Christmas 1993.
I haven't heard from Chris in over a year, though, so I have no idea how
Dawn is doing currently. There have been a number of rumors about her, none
of them pleasant; she's about as popular as Geoff Tate's ex-wife.
>Tragic, needless. He was a talented kid ranking right up there with John
>Petrucci.
Well, while Criss wasn't as flashy or as technically brilliant, he was a
phenomenal guitarist all the same for the sheer power and emotion; "Gutter
Ballet" never fails to knock me on my ass, even after almost six years of
listening to it. I sorely wish I'd been able to see them live, but every
time they were in Rochester, including the date they played there a month
before Criss' death, I was underage and had no chance of getting in.
I'm going to completely avoid the subject of Shannon Hoon; it's been beaten
to death as it is.
Lastly, I AM IN DESPERATE NEED OF STUFF FOR THE NEXT ISSUE OF METROPOLIS
WATCH! Do you guys think I'm kidding when I request reviews of "A Change of
Seasons" or the latest live shows or CDs of really awesome underground
progressive metal bands? Or you all just apathetic? I don't want to have to
skip another issue for lack of material! Will some of you puh-LEEZE take
pity on me and send some contributions? This is your shot at having the
band read your words, so what have you got to lose? If you're unsure of
your writing skills (as if that ever stopped anyone on the Jam), hell, I'm
an editor, that's why I'm here!
Please? Pretty please? Pretty please with whipped cream around it and a
.. uh.... well, never mind. 'Tis up to you folks, it's not like I'm
pointing a virtual AK-47 at your hard drive or anything.
Jaime, hoping her slightly altered .sig will look right this time...
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Jaime "the Dragon" Kimpton - also accessible at Maraya007@aol.com
writingreadingdrawingdreamingwishingpublishingjokesriddlespundits
poetswitsandMUSIC: dreamtheaterwickedmarayaparadiselosttoriamos
savatageclannadloreenamckennittqueensrychetiamatandstufflikethat
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 00:24:30 +0000 (GMT)
From: J Wiseman <ma5jw@bath.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Malmsteen : Useless Shred?
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951026001911.1427J-100000@slc-34>
I would like to agree with Erik's comment in digest 1077. While I am
not completely au-fais with his work, from what i've heard, EriK had made
a completely accurate assement of the man. Just take a look at the cover
of Magnum Opus.
Jim the funky beer monster.
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 08:55:00 +0800 (WST)
From: Tim Villa <tvilla@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Just got my Acoustic Dreams :)
Message-ID: <199510260055.IAA13632@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>
I'm just in the process of getting over glandular fever (yucky yucky
yucky virus, avoid kissing anyone you know who has it!!) and my recovery
was boosted yesterday by the arrival of my Acoustic Dreams (#249, same
as my Subconscious, nice one Mike!).
I've read about the quality and what's been said is correct-this is
pretty much as good as I've ever heard (I don't like the vocals on
Another Day, but that's just a subjective thing) and with the very good
artwork/design and the cover it'd even pass as a fully "legitimate"
release in a record store.
Oh yeah, the songs are cool also ;-)
So take this as my formal endorsement (not that what I say ever
counts!)
--
Tim Villa Faculties of Economics & Commerce, Education and Law
Network/Systems officer The University of Western Australia
Phone: +61-9-380-1796 Fax: +61-9-380-1068
tvilla@uniwa.uwa.edu.au http://www.ecel.uwa.edu.au/~tim/tim
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:00:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: TIM LODGE <LODGE_TIM@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: techie question...
Message-ID: <951025200039.2160c600@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>
I know there are some pretty experienced techies on this list, so
if anyone can help out, please email me.
i just got a new 5 disc cd changer.. cheap one..admiral.
but it has all the feautures i need. anyways, it appears
to work fine, but as i am listening to awake, it sounds *slow*.
I am kind of used to hearing awake on a tape in the car (which i know
tapes sound *faster* alot), but can a defect in the cd player cause this?
To the best of my knowledge, every other cd sounds fine in the thing.
Thanks,
Tim
------------------------------------
"Some will Transcend spinning years,
One as if time disappears.."
"Until the circle breaks, and wisdom lies ahead,
the FAITHFUL live AWAKE , the rest remain MISLED."
--Dream Theater, Innocence Faded
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 20:36:19 -0500 (CDT)
From: TILLOTWA@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Scarred and ACOS
Message-ID: <01HWVBYWVTOM8XW0QJ@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu>
This may be completely extraneous information to many of you, and some of you
may have figured this out long ago, but I thought it was kind of interesting.
The 1st half of the closing 3/4 passage in "The Crimson Sunset" contains a
chord progression very similar to that of the end of Scarred. This particular
progression is amazingly powerful and moving-B minor, Asus4, Gflat major w/ openB and E, (and here is where the similarity between the 2 songs ends) and finallyto Gmajor w/ open B and E.
I just thought this little tidbit was interesting.
Bye..
Andy.
"At odds with our senses we'll climb..."
P.S. Let's all give Mike Bahr an overwhelming round of applause for being
such a cool guy and providing us all with such a great service!
P.P.S. I know it was Italian, It just slipped my mind.
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 21:21:49 -0500 (CDT)
From: Kyle Mallett <krm95g@timon.acu.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Christian images and dope.
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.951025210749.16076C-100000@timon.acu.edu>
Greetings,
I think I may be the one responsible for starting the thread about
Christian images in DT songs. Whether I did or not, I did make a comment
about it some time ago requesting input,etc.
There have been some interesting and varied responses to the
issue, as I would suspect.
My take on the situation at the present time: I think there
definitely are Christian images in DT lyrics. To me that is not the
question. "Blood heal me... belief will always save me," is just one
example. I recently read in a jam that Mike P. even said that PMU sort of
combined the stories of Hamlet and Christ. To me, the presence of such
references is obvious.
This does not imply in any way, however, that the band is
Christian. Danzig (whom I do not listen to) uses Christian images, but I
would say fall quite short of performing gigs on the Christian circuit
(aside from the fact that they broke up).
Someone commented that the use of Christian images, along with
images from other literary works is quite commmon, in DT and elsewhere. I
think this is probably the most likely and accurate explanation of the
situation, IMO.
Although as a Christian, I do not lump the Bible in with other
forms of literature, I know that those who aren't religious still consider
it a literary work.
I continue to find it curious to see Christians dismiss things as
non-Christian simply because it is depressing. Being a Christian isn't a
picnic. This is not a criticism, just reality (as I see it).
By the way, Chris DeGarmo smoked weed during the recording of
Promised Land (so I heard from a close friend and Qryche freak-he wouldn't
have told me this if he didn't believe it).
Whoever just sent me a copy of Subconscious: THANK YOU. I lost
your e-mail address. I appreciate the effort you put into the cover art.
Kyle Mallett
"with the blessing of knowlegdge comes the trial of enduring ignorance"
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 00:33:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Elliott Kim <ekim01@fiu.edu>
To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: ****IMPORTANT****
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.951026002931.23069B-100000@solix>
Whoops! I didn't really mean that. Nothing important.
Just backing up good ol' Bafu.
--Elliott
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 00:37:44 -0400
From: WildKoba@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: dt
Message-ID: <951026003742_54643495@emout05.mail.aol.com>
and some of you guys are bitching that you can't get in to see dt b/c you're
under 18? check this out: they played a FREE GIG in july (i think it was) at
the cpi in (i think) westhampton (did anyone go?? how was it?? i couldn't get
in because i was under 21!!!! to make it worse (i know you girls will love
this), it was 21 for guys and 19 for girls!!!! ahhhhhh!!!!!!! almost tempted
to dress for the occasion (if you know what i mean). being 20 sucks. you're
old enough to do stuff, but still too young to do others. god, i can't wait
til 21 (and even better- it falls on a saturday next year!!)
someone please post directions to the roy rogers and wherever people are
meeting before the ct gig. i just might show up, but without a ytsejam shirt,
no one will know. oh well. maybe for the better.
i may consider selling my dt video of the japan show (1/24/95). if
interested, i would love a trade for TDoE or some good offer. email me
personally if interested.
dave silva- i have you cd, and i will mail it out thursday afternoon (had 2
huge tests this week, so haven't had time to send it off yet- expect it by
monday. sorry for the delay).
re: modes in "awake." i hear a lot of mixolydian (i.e., "6:00" is a big
example). however, the way they use chromaticisms, the way in which they stay
away from the "pivotal tone" as i call it (the one that makes it a certaion
mode or not), and the way they use both major and minor elements in their
music (i.e., "voices") makes it quite hard to know for sure.
til next time. and i just found a spider going into my one of my speakers,
and he just left me "caught in a web" (pardon pun). i mean, the back of my
speaker is all webbed. oh well. see ya. david, the magical kobayashi
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Date: Wed, 25 Oct 95 22:26:25 PDT
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: AD and stuff/Malibu DT Convention/Obsenity
Message-ID: <9510260526.AA20361@tengs1.teng>
>
> My initial reactions on hearing each album for the first time:
> 1. IAW: so why do i have this?
> 2. Awake: this is nowhere near as good as IAW
> 3. WDADU: this is just pathetic
> 4. LatM: what the hell is James doing?
> 5. Subconscious: so what's the big deal?
> 6. ACos: i cant believe they ruined the song
> 7. AD: i dont think i'll actually listen to it that much, but it completes
> the collection.
I love it! I can see how you would have those reactions
to each work (although I didn't share any of them !>)>.
Passing this on to my non 'jammer friends who have all
of the above CDs.
>> Malibu DT show
Wow. It looks as if *a lot* of people are goin to be
there. I don't think we'll have much trouble hogging
the front of the stage; I think the whole place will
be packed with 'jammers. They should have a sign at
the door that says: "If you aren't a 'ytsejammer' or
a guest of one, all non-VIPs please move to the back
of the club."
>> Obsenity (waitaminute, didn't this thread die?)
All language is symbolic. One who says that the use
of foul language is a non-issue isn't thinking well.
Given the opportunity, I doubt one would greet the
Pope with: "So, how the hell are ya' Popemeister!
I think it's fuckin' great that came over here to
visit us Yanks." Okay, so that's an absurd extreme,
but one wouldn't let such language casually creep
into such situations. Why? Because language is not
only symbolic to the speaker, but also for the
listener, and it is often symbolic in different
ways. Like the over-use of adverbs in writing, bad
language over-used demonstrates poor understanding
of clear communication. If not this, so often,
then it is used unnecessarily as a shock factor.
In the end, language _can_ be harmful as are *ideas*.
Sorry if I'm burning a dead puppy with this issue...
Zach
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 00:35:20 -0500 (CDT)
From: simmonsb@BELMONT.EDU (Bobby Simmons)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: sorry, not interested
Message-ID: <v01510100acb487b28960@[198.146.93.204]>
Please take me off the ytsejam list. I don't have time to read three to four
list a day. Iam a die hard DT fan but this is where I have to draw the line!
BOB
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Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 01:40:18 -0400
From: James Peele <jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1078
Message-ID: <Pine.DYN.3.91.951026013549.1875A-100000@unf6.cis.unf.edu>
Once again!
John P. & his wife Rena don't have internet access!
Mike Portnoy does not either, although maybe he set up the compuserve
account to end the stupid Blind Melon thread...
Portnoy's wife told me that someone had posed as JP in the past on the
jam and they all got a kick out of it!
It's highly doubtful that any of the members of DT (aside from Portnoy)
even read the jam.......
-"Until later"
Jay Peele
For info on INFERNO, E-mail: jpeele@unf6.cis.unf.edu
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