YTSEJAM digest 1096

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YTSEJAM Digest 1096

Today's Topics:

  1) OPERATION:REVOLUTION
by dgswanston@vms9.sci.csupomona.edu (Rain King)
  2) OPERATION:REVOLUTION Call-In
by dgswanston@vms9.sci.csupomona.edu (Rain King)
  3) Silent Man Single cover
by Chris Crowder <jccrowder@postman.harding.edu>
  4) Re: Japanese video
by Takaaki Higuchi - Marketing <thiguchi@sparc.Japan.Sun.COM>
  5) AYN RAND and DT
by TILLOTWA@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu
  6) Operation:Revolution
by hiw100@psu.edu (Cornholio)
  7) Eve....Mercy Fuck
by rinverso@cosi.stockton.edu (Ryan Inverso)
  8) (no subject)
by george meirose <grmei@frontier.wilpaterson.edu>
  9) Keyboardist and Bassist Needed for LI/NY Prog-Band!
by GMSking@aol.com
10) Mike Portnoy Drum Clinic for trade?
by GMSking@aol.com
11) asdf
by you iwai <you@videor.co.jp>
12) coo dt info
by sir@micron.net
13) Ytse & Jam
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
14) Phooey!
by laussade@enet.net (Ktulu)
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1070
by "BRENDEN R. THOMSON" <slayerbr@student.gu.edu.au>
16) Maquerade? and AD
by Keith Aspinall <kgunner@asu.edu>
17) chopped messages
by kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb)
18) Re: Zach doesn't like Jeremey
by richtera@physnet.uni-hamburg.de
19) Re: threads
by w de boer <boer303@hio.tem.NHL.NL>
20) Genesis ripped off?
by nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
21) request
by tnomoto@gan2.res.ncc.go.jp (tomoko nomoto)
22) Re: Ytse & Jam
by An Angel's Kiss... <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>
23) Birch Hill tickets.....
by An Angel's Kiss... <balkiewi@UMDNJ.EDU>

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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 16:58:44 -0800
From: dgswanston@vms9.sci.csupomona.edu (Rain King)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: OPERATION:REVOLUTION
Message-ID: <95103016584450@vms9.sci.csupomona.edu>

        [Since Steve Johnson asked nicely :) here is a "night before"]
        [repost of the Operation:Revolution movement directions. ]
        [This is a two-part message: the second part has the "MTV ]
        [Most Wanted" phone number to use tomorrow. ]

Greetings Ytsejammers,

        This message is to try to gather support and volunteers for a movement
currently being organized by the name of Operation:Revolution. Some of you may
have already heard of this or be helping, but for those of you that haven't,
please read this message and do whatever you can to help us out. The basic
goal of Operation:Revolution is to protest the current programming practices
of MTV (or eMpTyV as some like to call it). I'm sure most people can remember
when rock, metal, and progressive rock/metal bands got airtime on MTV. Back
when Queensryche released their Empire album, several songs of that album got
wide recognition on MTV (Empire, Silent Lucidity, etc.). In contrast, how
many times has each of you seen videos for I Am I, Bridge, Disconnected, etc.
off the new Queensryche album? Not very many I'm afraid.
        This is not limited to Queensryche supporters only, although it began
on the Queensryche group on Usenet. The example above is just that: an
example. The same thing holds true for other bands. How many of you have seen
Dream Theater videos on MTV? I think personally I saw Pull Me Under once and
Lie twice. These bands deserve more recognition than that.
        Operation:Revolution intends to send MTV a message that fans of rock
and metal are still here and we won't be silent any more. Our basic requests
to MTV are these:

1. More videos and less shows. After all, MTV originally stood for Music Tele
Vision. Cartoons and game shows don't seem to have very much to do with music.

2. More coverage for rock/metal bands. Specifically, more diversity among the
videos they play. A lot of the songs they play I happen to like quite a bit
(Live, Bush, Candlebox, Alanis Morissette, etc.), but I'd rather see some of
the other deserving bands get their fair share.

3. Return of Headbanger's Ball or similar show. Maybe start a new show
similar to Headbanger's Ball, but lean a bit more towards progressive
rock/metal than always playing just death metal.

Operation:Revolution is being carried out in three main ways:

1. Snail-mail campaign. Write MTV and let them know what you think. Recommend
bands to them that you'd like to see get more coverage. Tell them if you don't
like the proportion of game shows and cartoons as compared to videos and
music-oriented programming.

One address for this is:
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MTV's Afternoon
1515 Broadway 23rd FLr.
New York, NY
(I missed the zip code today, but just watch for a while yourself and you can
get an address to send to.)

2. E-mail campaign. On the day of Halloween we are asking for all supporters
of our goals to write an e-mail message to MTV voicing their support. It
doesn't have to be fancy, but the point is to show how much interest there is
out here. Try to be literate, intelligent, and non-vulgar. Our cause will see
much better results if we can fill their mailbox with a large amount of
intelligent mail, rather than if one guy sends hundreds of messages saying
'You suck' in the most interesting and vulgar ways he can think of. Please
send *one* message to any *one* of these three addresses on *Halloween Day*.

mtvmail@aol.com
*or*
feedback@mtv.com
*or*
mtvnews@mtv.com

Please send only one message to only one of these addresses on the day of
Halloween. And *please*, no vulgarity. We are trying to keep this movement
on an intelligent level.

3. Most Wanted campaign. On the day of Halloween, we intend to gather as many
supporters as possible and call up MTV's Most Wanted with votes for a song to
be chosen. Currently, the song being favored is Anybody Listening? by Queens-
ryche from the Empire album. We think if this song can be voted #1 on Most
Wanted it will send a powerful message to MTV and to it's viewers. This facet
of Operation:Revolution was only currently started, so I don't have the 800
number yet and we have yet to choose the song to vote for. As soon as this
information is determined, I'll post it to here.

The important thing for the Most Wanted campaign is to support it no matter
what song is chosen. We can't possibly pick a song that will please everyone,
but we will try to pick the best representative song that will get our message
across. Currently Anybody Listening is at the top of our list for a few
reasons: great song, theme goes along with our movement, age of song helps make
it stand out, never was very popular (makes it stand out more), and the roots
of this movement were started by several Queensryche fans. The point is to
pick a song that will stand out like a sore thumb and make people stop and
take notice of us.

Now, on to the important stuff... what can *you* do to help?

If you wish to get involved in the organization of this thing, please e-mail
Mick at hvaishn@emory.edu. You can e-mail me (ereed@comp.uark.edu) if you'd
like, but Mick is the guy that knows what's going on and is really the founder
of this. We still need lots of help getting this thing off the ground
properly. Areas to be tackled:
AOL, Compuserve, Delphi, Usenet, mailing lists, radio stations, etc.

If you don't wish to get involved on a large scale, we can still use your help
getting this message out. E-mail all your rock/metal fan friends and let them
know what's going on...forward them this message if you want. Tell anyone you
think might be interested. Get the word out on the streets.

And most importantly: CALL AND WRITE MTV! It only takes a few minutes of time
to write MTV a letter on Halloween or to call in a couple times to Most Wanted.
We aren't asking much of your time to do this, just a few minutes to write an
e-mail and to make a few phone calls. If you want to help with the
organization more time is involved, but the possibilities if this thing goes
well are endless...more airtime for the kind of music we like, more promotion
of the bands you want to hear, more new music being released, etc.

I apologize for the length of this letter, but we feel this is a vital and
important message to spread if we are to be successful. Thanks...

Ed.
ereed@comp.uark.edu

O:R organizer: Mick (hvaishn@emory.edu)

[forwarded by: Rain King]

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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 17:08:21 -0800
From: dgswanston@vms9.sci.csupomona.edu (Rain King)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: OPERATION:REVOLUTION Call-In
Message-ID: <95103017082150@vms9.sci.csupomona.edu>

IN ADDITION to writing in on Halloween Day, OPERATION: REVOLUTION has grown to
include a plan to bombard MTV's "Most Wanted" show with a radical request.
To signify the group where this benevolent movement started, (and for
simplicity's sake), we have decided to call in to MTV en-masse and request one
song: Queensryche's "Anybody Listening?"
This song was selected to send a message to eMpTyV. This song was
selected because it isn't too new (and trendy), isn't too old (and overplayed),
and it has a specific message. And again, in requesting this song, we honor
the newsgroup where this grand movement started.

** When: Call in on Halloween Day, starting around 5:30-6PM, Eastern Time**
*** the PHONE NUMBER: 1-800-DIAL-MTV ***
** The song to request: Queensryche's "Anybody Listening?" **

This call-in is NOT a replacement for the originally planned write-in.
It IS a significant part of a one-two-punch combination.
Feel free to call in everyday for the remainder of the week, too. But
remember to CALL IN ON HALLOWEEN DAY!

**** Remember to write in on Halloween day!!! ****

We WILL make a difference!

psifire@netcom.com (Mathew W. Yee)

[forwarded by: Rain King]

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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 19:20:31 CST
From: Chris Crowder <jccrowder@postman.harding.edu>
To: YTSEJAM@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Silent Man Single cover
Message-ID: <00998A85.3E431EC0.27@postman.harding.edu>

Ben Laussade was speaking about how he bought the Silent Man single and
was looking at the cover. When I first bought it, the first thing I thought
was "What does that mean, is it relevent to the meaning of the song?" I
have concocted one possible meaning to this bizarre song. Number One: It
could be symbolizing a shattered life. The man in the background appears to be
walking away from the camera. Maybe he has given up and is finally deciding to
run away. I don't have any suggestion for the gazeebo in the background yet,
but I'll think about it again after I review and study the lyrics. For those
of you who have the single, study the cover and lyrics and post your
suggestions to the jam. I'm sure that the 'jammers would like to hear some
more on this thread.

I can feel AD getting closer,
Chris Crowder (A dedicated Dream Theater and Rush fan)

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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 10:44:56 +0900
From: Takaaki Higuchi - Marketing <thiguchi@sparc.Japan.Sun.COM>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: Japanese video
Message-ID: <9510310144.AA03242@sparc.Japan.Sun.COM>

Hi, Damion,

> I have a Japanese video (bootleg). I think it's from Pay Per View
> television over there. It starts out with the band in the dressing room
> receiving their platinum albums. A Japanese woman is interviewing them (and
> they all act like "What the fuck is she saying?"). All it says is Dream
> Theater: Tokyo, Japan 1995. The set list is as follows:
That was the gig on 1/24/95 at Urawa Bunka(Culture?) Center.
And it was on-aired in Feb 95 twice.

p.s. You can find my face in the audiences if you know me :-)

regards

--- Takaaki Higuchi (thiguchi@japan.sun.com) Nihon Sun Microsystems K.K.

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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 20:05:01 -0600 (CST) From: TILLOTWA@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: AYN RAND and DT Message-ID: <01HX2ALW2N0A8XX1DH@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu>

Continuing the Ayn Rand thread... I was reading _Atlas Shrugged_ the other day and I came across the words: "She had no time for pain, no energy for anger." Hmmm, Do you think Myung read the book? I don't remember the exact page # ( I should have written it down), but it was there.

Incedentally, everyone should read Atlas Shrugged, it is incredible! Is "no time for pain, no energy for anger" a common phrase that I simply had not heard before LTL?

At any rate, its one of my favorite Dream Theater songs.

Andy Tillotson

"Quatch!" - Dieter Sevin

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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 21:32:48 -0500 From: hiw100@psu.edu (Cornholio) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Operation:Revolution Message-ID: <199510310232.WAA22098@r02n06.cac.psu.edu>

jammers, I am the person in charge of stuff here at PSU for O:R. I htink that you should be reminded in case you forgot. It is kinda lengthy, so if you just need an address or something, you know what to do. Later, Howard ps- more wake up and smell the coffee coming SOON.

Operation:Revolution

The basic goal of Operation: Revolution is to protest the current >programming practices of MTV (or eMpTyV as some like to call it). I'm sure >most people can remember when rock, metal, and progressive rock/metal bands >got airtime on MTV. Back when Queensryche released their Empire album, >several songs on that album got wide recognition on MTV (Empire, Silent >Lucidity, etc.). In contrast, how many times has each of you seen videos >for I Am I, Bridge, Disconnected, etc. off the new Queensryche album, >Promised Land? Not very many I'm afraid. > I use Queensryche as an example. Operation: Revolution began on the >Queensryche group on Usenet. This is not limited to Queensryche supporters >only. The same thing holds true for other rock/metal bands. How many of >you have seen Dream Theater videos on MTV? When is the last time (excluding >Beavis and Butthead) you saw Testament, Megadeath, Slayer, or Metalchurch. >When is the last time you saw something a little lighter, such as Aerosmith. >These bands deserve more recognition than that. > > Operation: Revolution intends to send MTV a message that fans of rock and >metal are still here and we won't be silent any more. Our basic requests to >MTV are these: > >1. More videos and less shows. After all, MTV originally stood for Music >TeleVision. Cartoons, game shows, spring break, and the Real World don't >seem to have very much to do with music. > >2. More coverage for rock/metal bands. Specifically, more diversity among >the videos they play. Live, Bush, Candlebox, Green Day, Hole, etc., are >fine for part of the day, and rap is fine for another part of the day, but >all of the other deserving bands need to get their fair share oairtime as well. > >3. Return of Headbanger's Ball. Let's shoot for a better mix of the >genres, including a hard lean towards progressive rock/metal, rather than >always playing just death metal. > >Operation: Revolution is being carried out in three main ways: > >1. E-mail campaign. This is our medium of choice. On the day of Halloween >we are asking for all supporters of our goals to write an e-mail message to >MTV voicing their support for Operation: Revolution. It doesn't have to be >fancy, but the point is to show how much interest there is out here. Try to >be literate, intelligent, and non-vulgar. Our cause will see much better >results if we can fill their mailbox with a large amount of intelligent >mail, rather than if one guy sends hundreds of messages saying 'You suck' in >the most interesting and vulgar ways he can think of. Please send *ONE* >message to any *ONE* of these three addresses on Halloween Day. > ><mtvmail@aol.com> OR ><feedback@mtv.com> OR ><mtvnews@mtv.com> > >2. Snail-mail campaign. Use the USPS only if you do not have an access >account. Write MTV and let them know what you think. Recommend bands to >them that you'd like to see get more coverage. Tell them if you don't like >the proportion of game shows and cartoons as compared to videos and >music-oriented programming. Please make sure that you DO NOT use any >vugarities. If you wish to tell MTV that they blow out the ass, do it as >politely as possible (yes it is possible). > >The address for this is: >MTV's Afternoon >1515 Broadway 23rd FLr. >New York, NY > >3. Most Wanted campaign. Also, On the day of Halloween, we intend to >gather as many supporters as possible and call up MTV's Most Wanted with >votes for a song to be chosen. The song is Anybody Listening? by >Queensryche, from the Empire album. We have chosen Queensryche for many >reasons. Operation: Revolution began on the Queensryche online digest, >Screaming in Digital. We think if this song can be voted #1 on Most Wanted, >it will send a powerful message to MTV and to it's viewers. The Phone >Number for the Most Wanted is: > >1 - 800 - DIAL - MTV > > Anybody Listening? was chosen for a few reasons: great song; theme goes >along with our movement; age of song helps make it stand out; never was very >popular (makes it stand out more); and the roots of this movement were >started by several Queensryche fans. The point was to pick a song that >would stand out like a sore thumb and make people stop and take notice. > >What can you do to help? > > If you would like more information on this, please e-mail Mick at ><hvaishn@emory.edu>. If you are at Penn State, you can e-mail Howard ><hiw100@psu.edu>. Don't feel like you want to help but can not. We can >still use your help getting this message out. E-mail all your rock/metal >fan friends and let them know what's going on. Tell anyone you think might >be interested. Get the word out on the streets. And most importantly, CALL >AND WRITE MTV! It only takes a few minutes of time to write MTV a letter on >Halloween or to call in a couple times to MTV Most Wanted. The >possibilities that Operation:Revolution presents are endless. > > >

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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 95 14:19:36 EST From: rinverso@cosi.stockton.edu (Ryan Inverso) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Eve....Mercy Fuck Message-ID: <memo.659996@cosi.stockton.edu>

Hello Jammers, I recently had the pleasure of purchasing The Dance of Eternity Boot. I had heard that the song Eve is on this CD. It is not listed on the track listing though.....where is it? Could it possibly be the inst. before PMU. Also where in the version of ACoS does James say Mercy Fuck.....I must be missing something. How many of you are going to the Birch Hill show in Dec. I just thought it would be cool if we all tried to get up front of the stage and during ACoS (if they play it) we should all yell Please Don't Go at the appropriate time. Oh well got to go. Please mail me off the list in order to keep the jams low....just trying to do my part. Later Ryan Inverso

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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 95 19:43:57 0000 From: george meirose <grmei@frontier.wilpaterson.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: (no subject) Message-ID: <9510310245.AA11018@frontier.wilpaterson.edu>

Please put me on the mailing list

Bedera@frontier.wilpaterson.edu

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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 21:57:58 -0500 From: GMSking@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Keyboardist and Bassist Needed for LI/NY Prog-Band! Message-ID: <951030215702_93753262@mail06.mail.aol.com>

We are a guitarist and drummer looking for versatile players with fluid chops, good grasp of odd time, likes doubling guitar/drum parts, and an all around good person!

We are influenced by Dream Theater, Fates Warning, Watch Tower, Cynic, Quensryche, Helstar, Annihilator, Crimson Glory, King Diamond, Tony MacAlpine, Joey Tafolla, Jason Becker, Marty Friedman, Cacophony, Helloween etc.

* Email GMSking *

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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 22:00:30 -0500 From: GMSking@aol.com To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Mike Portnoy Drum Clinic for trade? Message-ID: <951030220028_93756607@emout04.mail.aol.com>

Mike Portnoy-----> 8/18/95 Drum Clinic at Long Island Drum Center A++ Quality!

If you would like to trade please Email GMSking!

Looking for various Progressive rock artists-----> NOT JUST DREAM THEATER! Even though they are great, something like Watch Tower adds a little more spice. *Does anyone know of Eldritch or Angra ?

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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 95 12:38:29 -0800 From: you iwai <you@videor.co.jp> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: asdf Message-ID: <199510310350.MAA26809@videor.co.jp>

To subscribe to ytsejam,please email: subscribe ytsejam You Iwai

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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 95 20:40 MST From: sir@micron.net To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: coo dt info Message-ID: <m0tA7YU-000QaPC@mis01.micron.net>

Has anybody noticed that mike plays the same drum part during the intro to pull me under that he does during JP's acoustic solo in the middle of LTL?

this was pretty obvious to me and i'm surprised noone has mentioned it.

this is my first post so... i'm 16, live in twin fall Idaho and am a musclehead jock. i play guitar and fancy myself as being above average. can anyone tell me what IMO stands for? thats probably a stupied question but i musta missed that one. is the cdconnection the best place to get WDaDU? i'm planning on getting it and was just wondering.

Craig

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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 22:12:25 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Ytse & Jam Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91j.951030220747.44726A-100000@homer29.u.washington.edu>

*************************************** Ytse & Jam, Dream Theater Fans, Part II ***************************************

Jam: I can't figure out these lyrics. Ytse: Which song? J: All of them! Y: But which album do you mean? The themes are different. J: ALL OF THEM!!! All albums, all songs, all instrumentals! They're all crazy! I can't make heads or tails of them! Liquid shadows, spiders in windows, dances of this, dances of that, audiences ticking on a wall, blah, blah, blah! Y: Are you making fun of their lyrics? J: No, I just don't understand them. Are YOU making fun of DT's lyrics? ARE YOU?! Y: Of course not. J: Good. 'Cause if you are, the siren'll kick your ass from a dream!! HA!! Y: I'm sure. Anyway, I've almost got this transcription finished. J: What for? Transcriptions are hopelessly flawed!! Y: As are people, but somehow I put up with them. Hint, hint. J: Yeah yeah yeah, I put up with you, don't I? And you're a person, right? So we're even! Y: No, that's not logical. J: "Logic?!" What, are you trying to speak Dutch? Y: No, that's a Greek word. J: Okay, I was wondering why I didn't know what it meant. Y: Anyway, I'm almost done with my transcription. J: You'll never finish. It's wrong. It will take too long. No one is interested. Y: You're just full of positivity today, aren't you? J: That's me. Anyway, why transcribe? DT is a bunch of sellouts. Y: Excuse me? J: They are! I liked 'em five minutes ago, but now I don't! Y: How have they "sold out?" J: I don't know, they just HAVE. They made videos and stuff. Y: But no one will play their videos. J: SO?! Bands don't need public exposure to be sellouts! They just have to TRY to get public exposure!! Y: But isn't that how bands become successful? Make money, survive, reach new listeners, more fans, that sort of thing? J: Yeah, but so what! They're SELLOUTS if they do that! And I HATE SELLOUTS!! Y: So you basically hate all bands that try to better their situation in life through their music, namely by bringing that music to larger audiences. J: YES!! FUCKING SELLOUTS!! A true artist doesn't NEED money!! Or fans!! Y: So are the members of DT true artists? J: Hell yes they are! Y: So therefore they don't need us as fans. J: What? I'm a DT fan and I love it! Y: And, DT doesn't need you because they're "true artists." J: What the fuck... Is that more of that "logic" crap? Y: Oh yeah, sorry... J: Speaking of crap, I hate punk rock! Y: Once again, I think you are hating too much. J: Okay, you want some Greek? "Screw-us you-us." Y: Sounds like Latin to me. You need to open your eyes, friend. J: What? My eyes ARE open. Y: Or better, lose them. J: LOSE my eyes?? Y: Adesso che ho perso la vista, ci vedo meglio e di piu. J: Oh, now you're speaking Spanish. I know that language! Y: Actually, it's Italian. It means, "I can see much clearer now, I'm blind." J: Spanish, Italian, what's the difference?! And that line sounds like something out of the Bible. I guess DT are a buncha Christians or something. Y: Quoting the Bible doesn't necessarily mean DT is a Christian band. The Bible is full of poetic verse, and lots of bands quote various passages. J: That's because they're SELLOUTS!! Y: Okay, so now quoting the Bible makes you a sellout? J: Yeah! It's not an original thought! They're just following the herd! Y: The herd? Are you saying we're sheep? Okay, what happens if one of these guys does their own thing and writes original lyrics? Do you think other "sheep" may follow suit? J: If they do, then they're corrupting the goat herd!! Y: "Corrupting the goat herd?" Excuse moi? J: Aha! FRENCH!! Yeah, they corrupt ze goat herd. Y: What's with all this goat-talk? What does livestock have to do with DT? J: I like livestock! Sheep are cool, I have sheep in my bed! Y: I don't think your personal habits have anything to do with DT. J: Oh yeah? James LaBrie likes goats and stuff too! He SINGS like a goat! Y: Come on, SINGS like a goat? J: Yeah, and he's GAY!! Y: Excuse me? J: He's FUCKIN' GAY, like the intro to "Status Seeker!" Y: What are you talking about? I happen to like "Status Seeker." And how is LaBrie a homosexual? Not that it makes any difference to me liking DT's music... J: Just listen to "Pull Me Under" at 4:38! He says, "The whole world is spinning in soddomy..." He likes goats AND he's a homosexual! Y: So? J: SOOO, if he's a homosexual, then he's a SELLOUT!! Y: I think you need a Brain-Blast. J: I think YOU need a MERCY FUCK!! HA!! What's a "Brain-Blast" anyway? Y: It's where me and ten other rational people hold you down, jam a garden hose up one of your nostrils, and turn it on full-blast. J: Up my nose widda rubba hose? This is the Ytsejams, not Welcome Back Kotter! Y: You can't stay on topic with anything, can you? You always have to be joking around? J: You'd prefer I FLAMED everyone? Y: No thanks... Wait, are you saying you can only crack jokes or flame people? J: Heh-heh, YEAH. Y: Really... That explains an awful lot...

Bafu Vai

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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 20:25:21 -0700 From: laussade@enet.net (Ktulu) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Phooey! Message-ID: <199510310325.UAA11758@maple.enet.net>

Dammit, I miss my five Jams a day!

Ben Laussade laussade@enet.net

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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 13:33:44 +1000 (EST) From: "BRENDEN R. THOMSON" <slayerbr@student.gu.edu.au> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1070 Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951031133158.8823A-100000@frodo>

> > Well tell 'em to change their name because the real ENSLAVED is a > > black metal band with world wide releases and they are a black metal band > > - ie none of this Christian shit - they are fucking evil. > > Are you're sure you're not thinking of ENTOMBED? Then again, Enslaved > sounds like it could be death metal. Of course, when you think about it, > it isn't a bad name for a Christian band either.

I am definately not thinking of ENTOMBED - they are a Swedish death metal band. ENSLAVED released a split ep (or lp? - I can't remember) with another black metal band called EMPEROR. Case closed!!

See ya - Brenden (HAIL ALL KISS FANS!!)

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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 23:39:01 -0700 (MST) From: Keith Aspinall <kgunner@asu.edu> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Maquerade? and AD Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.951030233040.23052E-100000@general1.asu.edu>

I was at a local music shop today, and i picked up their weekly magazine type thingy. On the backpage was a full page ad from Metalblade Records. Nothing about Fates, but there was this blurb about a band called Masquerade, supplemented by this comment by Kerrang "the air is filled with the electric atmosphere of Queensryche, Dream Theater, even Soundgarden." So has anyone heard them and/or know anything about them? I'm kind of interested since I haven't been able to find any Ivanhoe or Shadow Gallery, and I am looking for something new.

The 3:25-3:35 mark of LSoaD on AD is pretty cool, probably my favorite single part of the cd. It may be the same as the album version (I haven't really checked) but, like i said, its neat.

Keith Aspinall

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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 23:44:55 +0800 From: kbibb@arastar.com (Ken Bibb) To: ytsejam Subject: chopped messages Message-ID: <9510310744.AA28582@anthor.arastar.com>

Reminder: If you start a line with "From", your message will be chopped at that point. (Yet another server software bug.) To get around this, put a ">" in front of it (eg ">From").

-- Ken Bibb "If the boundary breaks I'm no longer alone kbibb@arastar.com Don't discourage me jester@crash.cts.com Bring out the stars/On the first day" David Sylvian--"The First Day"

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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 09:13:12 +0100 From: richtera@physnet.uni-hamburg.de To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: Zach doesn't like Jeremey Message-ID: <00998AF9.912909D2.3766@physnet.uni-hamburg.de>

Yes Mike, I know what it means to be 'sarcastic'. But isn't it the right way to handle this damn stupid mails ?

( And I've recognized that it must have been : ' Do (!) you know ...' , but it would have showed me if Zach is tolerant to foreigners not speaking 'perfect english')

Andy

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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 10:19:54 +0100 From: w de boer <boer303@hio.tem.NHL.NL> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Subject: Re: threads Message-ID: <9510310919.AA00885@hio.tem.nhl.nl>

Robert Quezada wrote: >Please, don't start this thread again. All I need is 100 new mail >pieces in my new mail folder when I login each day. > >Thanx.... >rq I've got ONE word for you: DIGEST :)

Wietze.

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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 95 11:26:25 +0100 From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop) To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com Cc: donews!nga Subject: Genesis ripped off? Message-ID: <9510311026.AA00539@sundoc13.software-ag.de>

Morning all,

Be warned, this contribution to the Jam has some DT content. Some people may not like it (especially those who cannot tolerate people having any sort of positive opinion about any other band). OK, here goes:

Last night was nostalgia night (just ain't what it used to be) and I was giving my stereo a good bashing with some old Genesis stuff. It was the turn of Foxtrot. 'Can Utility and the Coastliners' had finished, and I was getting ready for 'Supper's Ready' when the little acoustic track 'Horizons' started. "Wait a minute", I thought, "where have I heard this recently??". Foxtrot is removed from the CD player to be replaced by ACoS. You guessed it folks. The acoustic intro/outro sounds a lot like 'Horizons'. Not all of it, just the first 30 seconds or so of both pieces. I'm not suggesting a rip off, but there is a remarkable similarity if anybody wants to hear it. I even asked the guy I live with to listen to the two intros, and he confirmed what I thought. Try it yourselves: I would be interested to know if anybody else can hear the similarity (especially in the bass strings). The intro to ACoS also sounds a lot like the 12th track 'Experimental' on Subconscious, but I expect that has already been commented on somewhere.

Did you realize that 'Supper's Ready' is almost as long as ACoS? (yes)

My listening list for last night included Foxtrot (Genesis), Close to the Edge (Yes), Tarkus (ELP) and Birds of Fire (Mahavishnu Orchestra), all stuff that I used to listen to when I was 14-15. Which got me wondering: how much of the new stuff that we listen to now will we be listening to in 20 plus years time? I must admit I got quite a bit of amusement out of the image of me, sitting in my rocking chair, with my hearing aid turned full up and whistling through my last two teeth to 'The Silent Man'!

Nearly finished, just a couple of odd bits and pieces. Mr. Dinishak called us all 'fuckers' (his word, not mine). If anybody wants to insult me in a personal email as a consequence of something that I post to the jam (like some of you have done), fine by me. But I object to these global insults just because somebody is too lazy to skip entries that he/she/it doesn't want to read. And please, when you quote something from the Jam, try and keep the quote as small as possible - this means that Ken Bibb can then pack more new info into each new digest (hi Ken, you're doing a great job).