YTSEJAM Digest 946
Today's Topics:
1) CDs outside the US
by aar1@cornell.edu (Alexis A. Ramos)
2) Frustration...
by "DR. TEETH" <GLYDE@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
3) Fastidious Trappings: NDTC
by Rob Weychert <weyc9212@kutztown.edu>
4) Myung's instructional and more...
by mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
5) YTSEJAM digest 904
by Gore_Josh/furman@furman.edu
6) More Converts!!
by "Dan Tshin" <danman@orbonline.net>
7) Trivia And DT DJ
by debraun@fresno.edu (Randall Braun)
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 945
by omman@solar.sky.net
9) First Post
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
10) REH Instructional Video
by Brian M Polka <rycher@ksu.ksu.edu>
11) I want my Ystejam!!!!!
by Deebor@aol.com
12) Message Undeliverable to cc:Mail
by cc#c#Mail-Gateway%ccmail@x400gw.msfc.nasa.gov
13) Re: ACOS release date
by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Torbj=F8rn_Richardsen?= <torbjorn@ifi.uio.no>
14) Re: YTSEJAM digest 945
by VM460899@HOPE.CIT.HOPE.EDU
15) mailing list
by dhplotki@students.wisc.edu
16) YYYYYEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!! AAAAHHHHH!!!!
by "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
17) Re: News from the band
by Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 16:36:02 +0330
From: aar1@cornell.edu (Alexis A. Ramos)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: CDs outside the US
Message-ID: <v02120003ac75ee870533@[132.236.176.60]>
I don't know if I sent this to the wrong adress, so here I go again just in
case. I just want to know the reason why there are many CDs that are
released in places such as Europe or Japan and are never released in the
US. And why is it that many times when a CD is released in the US as well
as in Europe or Japan, the foreign version always has extra songs? Is this
fair? If anyone knows the answer to any of these questions, please post
them up. Thanks.
Alexis
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Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 17:57:58 -0600 (CST)
From: "DR. TEETH" <GLYDE@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
To: Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Frustration...
Message-ID: <01HV1J69UZ9U005S87@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU>
I'm looking for someone to bitch at about ANOTHER entire mailing of the ytsejam
to the ytsejam and I'm not finding any! What an INCREDIBLE waste of bandwidth!
LEARN TO USE THE INTERNET!!! Sheesh! "Maybe if I type "Forward", then I can
just post to the ytsejam without having to type the whole address! What a good
little boy am I!" Fools! Fools! Draw and quarter them all!!!
Sorry. Ranting over with. Back to lurker mode.
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 22:38:41 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rob Weychert <weyc9212@kutztown.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Fastidious Trappings: NDTC
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950908222243.9025A@atlantic>
Hi folks,
If you're interested in broadening your horizons a little and
checking out some bands that you may or may not be familiar with, or just
getting a copy of a cool tape, I'm offering free copies of my 1995
end-of-the-summer mix, "Fastidious Trappings Vol. 2." Here's the
songlist:
Song Artist
~~~~ ~~~~~~
1. Chewbacca Supernova
2. Crackin' Up Revolting Cocks
3. Young Blues Rebel Chris Thomas
4. The Cheese Stands Alone Echolyn
5. Lost Neurosis
6. Hey Joe Jimi Hendrix
7. Carousel Mr Bungle
8. Vita Voom Ozric Tentacles
9. Moon Over Marin Les Thugs
10. Faster Disco Faith No More
11. Girl U Want Soundgarden
12. This Faith Front Line Assembly
13. Move Miles Davis
14. Guilty of Being White Minor Threat
15. Happy Hour King Missile
16. Friends Joe Satriani
17. Properties of Propaganda Fishbone
18. Blood, Milk, and Sky White Zombie
19. A Hit By Varese Chicago
20. Caribbean Blue Enya
21. Ballad Pailhead
22. Little Bastard Ass Ponys
All you need to do to get a copy is send me a 100 minute tape and money
for return postage. E-mail me at weyc9212@kutztown.edu for my address
and any further details you might need.
--ROb
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 23:32:44 -0500
From: mer@sol.iii.net (Marc Respass)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Myung's instructional and more...
Message-ID: <v01510101ac76c6ceabf9@[199.232.46.229]>
auzzy@mails2.entpe.fr (Stephane Auzilleau) wrote:
> John Myung and Mike Portnoy will shoot instructionnal videos
> in November. 2 separate ones, but Mike will appear on John's
> one and John on Mike's one. That's all for today.
That's enough for today. If you have _any_ more info on when Myung's video
is coming out, please let us know. I want to get it! (just hope he's not
teaching solo technique's. he he. kidding. ;)
One of my favorite moments was always the transition from Afterlife to
TOWHTSTS. That rainy night windshield wipers really sets the mood.
Light Fuse and Get Away is awesome and I love that "I can't see where this
is going" sample. Anyone know what it's from?
Then there's ACOS. So many awesome parts. "Prepare for the fight..." that
bit. The cool part where the guitar switches to a clean sound. I can't
remember where that is.
Many more, but those are some great moments.
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 95 20:35:38 -0400
From: Gore_Josh/furman@furman.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 904
Message-ID: <H000047e03bef370@MHS>
Item Subject: Message text
I'd like my subscription cancelled as soon as possible. Thank you.
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 22:14:34 -0500
From: "Dan Tshin" <danman@orbonline.net>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: More Converts!!
Message-ID: <m0srFR1-000gAJC@george.orbonline.net>
Hi!
I find DT and prog fans quite rare, as you all do, but I hope I have
added to our population.
Just a few weeks ago, when I was working doing VB programming, I
brought a tape of my DT stuff to work. The company I worked for has
around 10 - 15 people, and only 3 in my group. I was playing the
music and it stopped... I was playing Solitaire or some silly Windows
game since I had done my work and hadn't received any more
assignments at that time. The lady, a Russian programmer startled me
and said, "How come the music is off?"
I wasn't sure if she was meaning she liked the stuff, so I turned the
tape around. I asked her if she liked the tape and she said "Yes." I
then started introducing her to DT and prog.
Her musical tastes include Phantom of the Opera and some Russian
stuff (I'm not sure if it's folk or rock). I was pretty excited about
that. Now that I'm in university, I don't know what to feed her with.
I just had to let you know.
BTW: I have been seeing DT shirts around Toronto! I saw one on the
subway about half a month ago.
During the Engineering Frosh week at the University of Waterloo, I
saw somebody with his DT shirt. I was around the engineering building
around 9:00 am Tuesday. He disappeared into the A/V office. I think I
recognize his face from the Queensryche concert. If you are on this
list, pls tell me.
BTW: Frosh was AMAZING!! Can't wait to get back...
I'll stop spewing now... & on with the regular stuff...
>Dan Tshin <danman@orbonline.net> Shad Valley Carleton '94 SuRvIvOr
Web Site URL: http://www.orbonline.net/~danman | _ _ |
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what | ( /V\ ) |
he cannot lose." -- Jim Elliot | M |
"Love is not just a passing word, it is a state of heart | | |
that goes on forever." ACOS by Dream Theater | | |
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 19:56:29 -0700
From: debraun@fresno.edu (Randall Braun)
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Trivia And DT DJ
Message-ID: <v01530500ac7652fe3ee4@[204.161.33.79]>
Old Triva Answers: Part Two:
>>>In The Nice, Keith Emerson was famous for what musical piece which was
>>>taken from which Broadway musical by which late famous
>>>composer/conductor? Note: KE still plays this as part of his encore
>>>medley with ELP.
The piece is, of course, "America" from "West Side Story", Leonard
Bernsteins modern day version of Shakespeare's (and (BOC's) 'Romeo &
Juliet'. Although I don't have any real proof, I believe the basic theme
of 'America' is actually from Dvorak's 'New World Symphony'.
>>>>>>>Since no one has yet answered this question, I will leave it as a
>>>>>>>continuing/new triva question:
Which other well-known rockband (not necess. prog) also plays(played) a
piece based on the above mentioned Broadway musical? (hint the original
composer's name was included in the song credits; new hint, the front man
for this band was also a guest on the 'Muppet Show')
>>>What other group played a song by the same name as that of the above
>>>mentioned piece by KE/Nice? Although this song has the same name, it
>>>was compsed by which other contemporary artist? What is the historical
>>>significance of this song?
Yes did a cover of Paul Simon's "America". This is the first song recorded
by Yes with Rick Wakeman on keys; it first appeared on an Atlantic Records
('The Age of Atlantic', I think it was called) compilation album, and later
was included on Yes' 'Yesterdays' album, which otherwise is a best of Yes'
first two albums (+ some B sides). It was also released in a shortened form
as a b-side. Someone suggested an even closer tie betweeen Yes & West Side
Story: I don't know, but would appreciate the info.
>>>Who was the other member of The NICE (besides KE, Lee Jackson & Brian
>>>Davison) and which band did he go to after he left The NICE? Name other
>>>famous members of this latter band.
The 4th member of The Nice was David O'List, guitarist, who later played
with Roxy Music. Other well known members of Roxy Music include Eddie
Jobson & John Wetton (later UK). The most well known member from Roxy
Music is Brian Eno (Jobson replaced Eno when he left), the well known
artist, producer (U2, etc.) & 'god-father' (along w/ Frank Zappa) of
progressive/metal rock.
>>>On which Black Sabbath song(s) did Rick Wakeman play?
Rick Wakeman played keys on Sabbra Cadabra f/ "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath"
>>>New Trivia questions:
What band did Rick Wakeman play with before Yes? What was the complete
original name of that band? Which short-term member of this band also made
a guest appearance on which Led Zepplin song? What band was this person
most closely associated with?
>>>Another Yes trivia answer:
The original guitarist for Yes left after the second album, Who is he and
with which Prog/pop band did he record with in early 80's. (Hint: although
they recorded mostly their own songs, they did a cover of another song that
was originally partially done in German.)
Peter Banks was the original Yes' guitarist (not to be confused w/ Tony
Banks, Genesis keys). The band I was looking for was called 'After the
Fire' aka 'ATF'. Although this band mostly did original
'Christian-oriented' material, they are/were best known for their cover of
'Der Kommisuer' (sp?) which I believe was originally done by the German pop
artist Falco.
>>>New Yes Trivia question: Which band did Tony Kaye, original Yes' keys,
>>>go to after he left Yes? With whom did he later record a
>>>'Christmas'-season song?
Although I have yet to catch up reading the recent JAM's, to answer my own
question: Yes, Derek was a member of Alice Copper's band in 'Wayne's World'
(it says so in the credits at the end of the movie). Unfortunately, he was
the only member of the band NOT to have a reasonably good onstage close-up.
Not to re-open the short/long hair debate, but he appeared to have
reasonably long hair (it was hard to tell; he was mostly back/side-lit in
the background). CAN HE BE IDENTIFIED IN ANY OF THE SCENES OF THE
AFTER-GIG PARTY SEGMENT (We're not worthy) ??? If you can answer please be
relatively precise. Thanks.
Well caught up with that.
Well, our Fresno area DT DJ (Jeff Freeman at KRZR 103.7 FM) has played some
stuff from ACOS on-air. For you locals, he can be reached through the
radio station's new Email address :
just put his name (Jeff Freeman) in the subject line.
They also have a new Web page:
www.valleynet.com/krzr
I've email corresponded with him. and he has seen a few of the DT Web
sites; I've also encouraged him to join the JAM. We'll see....
--Randall L. Braun, the Quintessential Kludge
'What she is not, I can easily perceive, what she is, I fear, it is
impossible to say.' -- E. A. Poe
'To write or to speak is almost inevitably to lie a little. It is an
attempt to clothe an intangible in tangible form; to compress an
immeasurable into a mold. And in the act of compression, how Truth is
mangled and torn!'
-- Anne Morrow Lindbergh
'When morality comes up against profit, it is seldom that profit loses.'
-- Shirley Chisholm, former member of the US Congress
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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 00:00:20 -0500
From: omman@solar.sky.net
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 945
Message-ID: <199509090500.AAA01071@sky.net>
okay few things....
1) Went to musicland, they checked their listings,
ACOS released SEPT 19!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (in the KC area)
2)Musicland's not that bad, i got my Lie ad Silent Man
single (rather, I'm going down to get it) there...
3)Worst DT moment- the verse of LFAGA, that was originally
my favorite song, rather the only song i liked on WDADU, now
it's the only song I don't like
4)best DT moment- listening to I&W all the way through. Not
just in the background, but actively listening, and enjoying every
single second of it...Sounds even better w/ headphones
That goes for Awake too..
5)clear bumber stickers---they rule!!
6)Accoustic dreams- Checks in the mail mike, I can't wait!!!
7)WDATU- is the track listing of it the exact same as WDADU, or
is there some differenceS?
8)I have to admit it...I love rush, but I've only heard them on
the radio, and have yet to hear any of their epics. Can anyone
suggest which rush CD to go out and buy? I wanna hear everyone's
suggestion b4 I go out and buy one...
9)thank you for not quoting the whole digest
10)TLF/Eve are they ever going to release these on a CD?!?!
(besides the Lie and TSM singles)
11)anyone have ANY info on DT's next CD? (besides what was posted
on the last jam..) Any info on songs, etc?
12)"Likely or not it's the dream that we keep and at odds with our
senses we'll climb, but if faith is the answer we've already reached
it, and if spirits a sign, then it's only a matter of time..."
James
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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 01:05:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@moose.uvm.edu>
To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: First Post
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.950909005924.188564B-100000@moose.uvm.edu>
Hello, my fellow DT fans. This is my first post to Ytsejam. I just
received my first issue, and I'm glad I subscribed. I have 2 questions:
First, I saw DT back home (on Long Island) at the Malibu in Lido Beach.
Echolyn and some really boring thrash band opened. Anyway, I have been
hearing rumors that they taped that show to release as a live album. The
show was late July (around the 28th or so). Anyone else heard these rumors?
Second, I saw many of you writing about your most favorite and least
favorite DT moments. My most favorite DT moment is pressing the play
button on the CD player, and my least favorite is having to get up to
switch CD's. As for "the intro to this" or "the riff to that," yes the
songs are complex, but each song is a song unto itself. Each track on
the CD (and, in the case of AMBI, each three tracks) is a DT moment.
Appreciate the song as a song, as a work of the collective genius of four
Long Islanders (and a Canadian).
That'll be $0.02, please.
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* Christopher R. Merlo |8^)= *
* The University of Vermont, 211 Jeanne Mance Hall *
* Burlington, VT 05405 *
* "Bright images flashing by, like windshields towards a fly" *
* -Peart, "Between the Wheels," P/G, 1984 *
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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 01:54:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: Brian M Polka <rycher@ksu.ksu.edu>
To: Ytsejam Newsletter <Ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com>
Subject: REH Instructional Video
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.950907222747.21013A-100000@nbc.ksu.ksu.edu>
Hey there all,
I just picked up the latest issue of Guitar World and was reading
"Wild Stringdom" written by John Petrucci. The last paragraph of the
article I found sort of interesting:
"So, far we have only scratched the surface of this exciting
concept. If you want to learn more about how to use open-string voicings
in different progressions and orchestrations, check out my new
instructional video, available on REH Video..."
Does this mean it is out now? I haven't heard anybody mention it on
the list in awhile and was just curious if anybody knew. And for any
other guitarist out there who read Petrucci's articles in GW... how in
the hell am I suppose to get those chords he talked about in the
September issue!!!!! The Cadd9#11 I can get but that freakin' pinky bend
on the Cmaj9 is impossible to hit. Oh well, I guess that's why he gets
the big bucks huh :-)
Later,
Brian
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*** And I'll smile and I'll learn to pretend ***
*** "Space-Dye Vest" And I'll never be open again ***
*** Dream Theater And I'll have no more dreams to defend ***
*** And I'll never be open again ***
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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 03:05:01 -0400
From: Deebor@aol.com
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: I want my Ystejam!!!!!
Message-ID: <950909030500_94988968@emout04.mail.aol.com>
somehow I was unsubscribed from the list. Could you please resubscribe me?
Thanks,
Deebor@aol.com
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Date: 9 Sep 95 05:42:07 -0500
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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 17:13:54 +0200
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Torbj=F8rn_Richardsen?= <torbjorn@ifi.uio.no>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: ACOS release date
Message-ID: <199509091513.28960.byleist.ifi.uio.no@ifi.uio.no>
Well, in Europe (at least in Norway), ACOS is already available (I got it
September 8th). I've only listened to it once, and there are some pretty cool
stuff on it. The title song doesn't really surprise you, it is a typical DT
song. The song was written in 1989 and was first meant to be on I&W. DT mention
something interesting on the CD-cover, they say that the YtseJammers had some
influence on why the CD was produced.
Now, for something else. It is about Kevin Moore. I love Space Dye-vest and
after hearing Eve from the single The Silent Man (I think that mr. Moore had
something to do with that song, am I right?), I wonder if someone know if he is
planning to release something. I know he has produced a demo (I wish I could
hear that), but is he working on a CD-release?
T. Richardsen
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Date: Sat, 09 Sep 1995 11:21:54 -0500 (EST)
From: VM460899@HOPE.CIT.HOPE.EDU
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 945
Message-ID: <01HV2JOP506A8ZF9VI@HOPE.CIT.HOPE.EDU>
Dream Theater is planning a full release for Summer 96,
whoever wanted to know...
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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 14:07:13 -0700
From: dhplotki@students.wisc.edu
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: mailing list
Message-ID: <v02110100ac77b21d9331@[144.92.181.210]>
I've been a DT fan for some years now, and I was wondering how I could
become part of your mailing list? Please send me info. Thanks.
Dave Plotkin
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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 17:00:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: "L. Jason Hartman" <lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: YYYYYEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!! AAAAHHHHH!!!!
Message-ID: <199509092100.RAA21578@umbc9.umbc.edu>
I GOT IT ! I GOT IT!!!!!!!!!
I'm rocking my ass off right now listening to the ACOS CD!!!
IT RULES IT RULES IT RULES!!!
Settle down Beavis...
NO WAY, THIS RULE THIS ROCKS IT KICKS ASS!!!!
Words can't express how awesome the new version of ACOS is! I've got tons
of stuff to say about it but I'll have to collect my thoughts and peel
myself off of the way and I'll write more later.
THIS DISC WILL NEVER LEAVE MY PLAYER!! IT'S ALREADY EARNED A PERMANENT
SPOT!!
--
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* Jason Hartman "I am the Killing Hand!" lhartm1@gl.umbc.edu *
* *
* You're fighting the weight of the world, *
* and no one can save you this time. *
* Close your eyes - you can find all you need in your mind. *
* *
* "Take the Time" - Dream Theater *
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Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 15:47:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
Subject: Re: News from the band
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9509091528.B19531-0100000@uclink.berkeley.edu>
On Fri, 8 Sep 1995 ytsejam@arastar.com wrote:
> Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 14:34:42 GMT
> From: auzzy@mails2.entpe.fr (Stephane Auzilleau)
> To: ytsejam@anthor.arastar.com
> Subject: News from the band
> Message-ID: <199509081434.OAA00985@mails2.entpe.fr>
>
> Hi there,
>
> I recently get some news from the band by their management. The band will
> start to write and rehearse for the new album in October, before going to
> Japan for 2 shows (26th and 28th of October, with a possibility to play in
> South Korea on October 23rd, but not confirmed). After these shows, the band
> will wontinue to work on thei new album to be release in spring 96. They
Here's a wild guess: maybe this is the reason why DT decided not to do a
tour in support of ACoS. Maybe they were cranking out material like mad
(like what happened before Awake got recorded) and decided to postpone a
tour until their next album got recorded.
Just one fan's opinion.
Younis Hilal
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