YTSEJAM Digest 1405
Today's Topics:
1) An open letter to Gandalf...(for the jams review)
by mojoman@pointblank.com
2) Bruce D. Rules
by Jeffrey Cline <jcline@quapaw.astate.edu>
3) Re: McDT
by Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>
4) Musician?
by fcavani@pianeta.it (Fabio Cavani)
5) Superior Orders
by jskewes@why.net (jskewes)
6) GC disc SOLD
by skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
7) da pick, da apology, da head voice
by ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
8) Hi
by kurt@fgallery.com
9) YTSEJAM digest 1404
by keu@pointblank.com
10) quickie on 7 string
by ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
11) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/03/96 - 23:28:08" <response@ibmmail.com>
12) THANK YOU!!
by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
13) Yngwie's Article
by Michael Pomerleau <72064.614@compuserve.com>
14) Japanese fame
by bosox1@ix.netcom.com (Craig Francis Moran)
15) Re: Superior
by bosox1@ix.netcom.com (Craig Francis Moran)
16) P..r..o..g..r..e..s..s..i..o..n..s..
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
17) T-Shirts
by DreamNDay@aol.com
18) Trade....
by Kevin Rios <krios@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
19) Just had a dream
by kurt@fgallery.com
20) Re: Satch on Rockline
by Shamus McConney <savage@grove.ufl.EDU>
21) Me
by DreamNDay@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 12:02:06 -0500
From: mojoman@pointblank.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: An open letter to Gandalf...(for the jams review)
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.4.3.12.2.6.2377490627.1269125@pointblank.com>
An open letter from Cobra Comander to Destro;
I was explaining that most of the people who are into DT, are
into DT because of Images & Words. I wasn't implying jealousy or envy.
Merely stating a fact. Obviously,some seem to use the fact that they
R preI&W fans asa validator to up themselves on the DT totem pole.Im
not sure if many people care when they became DT fans. I personally
think that it is more important, is that we are all DT fans in one
respect. I see too many people on this jam who prefer to turn their
knowledge of DT into one huge online pissing contest. When it comes to
pissing into the urinal of little known DT fans, I can hold my own...but
I dont announce that....(I DONT NEED A CONCHE) :)
MojoMan, the one the only steel-faced Cobra Comander, hath spoken.
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 10:58:48 -0600 (CST)
From: Jeffrey Cline <jcline@quapaw.astate.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Bruce D. Rules
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.960403103856.7289B-100000@quapaw.astate.edu>
Hey fellow jammers I just picked up the new Bruce Dickinson album
SKUNKWORKS. It's so great I felt I had to comment on it. On this album
Bruce has taken on a different sound. Both the music and his vocals are
somewhat diverse from projects he's done in the past. The new band that
is with Bruce is great. He has surrounded himself with some great young
talent. The band gave a great preformance and the bass and drum work on
this album really stands out as being spectacular. Bruce's voice seems to
have more of an edge on this album. Overall the sound is fresh and new and
contains both heavy sounds with a melodic touch. I recommend this to any
Bruce Dickinson fan and for that matter and fan of progressive rock.
Check it out.
JEFF CLINE
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 10:46:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Jeff Chew <jc309@columbia.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: McDT
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960403104238.15908A-100000@labdien.cc.columbia.edu>
On Wed, 3 Apr 1996 ytsejam@ax.com wrote:
> I'm not Japanese, but yes, this is true!! As a part of a campaign to
> promote DT's popularity overseas, the band has indeed produced a number of
> promotional jingles for McDonalds. Collect them all!
>
> The McDLDT.
> The Ytsejamburglar.
> A Fortune In Fries.
> Eronaldmania.
> The Spilling Hand. (tragic ode to drive-thru coffee drinkers)
> Scalded. (see above)
> McTropolis-- Part I: The Table-Wiper and the Sweeper
> The Silent Assistant Manager.
> Afterlunch.
> Space-Dye Hairnet.
> Wait For Cheese.
> To Grill Forever.
> Saturated.
> A Change of Fixin's.
> Under A Glass McMuffin.
> Caught In An Artery.
> Dipping Nuggets Off A Dream.
> Special Sauce Seeker.
> The Ones Who Help To Sesame Seed The Bun. (sorry)
> Light Fuse And Have A Nice Day.
>
> "Two all-beef Portnoys, Special Sherinian, lettuce, LaBries, tomatoes,
> Petruccis, onions, on a sesame-seed Myung."
>
> Robble fuckin' robble.
>
> McScott.
> Deserves A Break Today
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yours,
Jeff =)
<*> Jeff Chew <*> jc309@columbia.edu <*> Columbia University <*>
<*> (212) 853-6952 <*> Beeper (917) 712-4828 <*>
<*> http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309/dreamt.html <*>
"If the song I sing to you could fill your heart with
joy, I'd sing forever" - John Stamos and the Beach Boys, "Forever"
Please don't make fun of my .sig! (sniff)
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 17:18:25 +0200
From: fcavani@pianeta.it (Fabio Cavani)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Musician?
Message-ID: <199604031518.RAA09523@ns.pianeta.it>
Hello jammers!
I just wanted to post my brief opinions about the musician thread.
First of all, I think we should distinguish between a classical musician and
a rock (or jazz, or what you want) musician.
A modern musician must know how to play his instrument, how to create music,
how to jam. This is what he's asked to do, what he likes to do.
It doesn't matter if he can read music (that actually isn't that difficult, as
someone said), if he knows music theory and history, if he plays various
instruments and different styles. Of course it helps, but I would define a good
drummer a modern musician even if he can't play anything else and if he can't
read music.
On the other hand, a classical musician has other qualities. He must know how to
read music, he must know the theory, he must be technically excellent. And,
above all, he must be able to PLAY. And to PLAY an instrument, in classical
music, means that you can really express yourself when you play, and communicate
it to the audience, recreate what the composer had to say. This is really
difficult, and it expresses the difference between modern music and classical
music.
This is because music is a very special ART, that is created once, and then
relives only in the interpretation of a great musician. This makes music so
different from sculpture, literature, architecture, and so on.
But this is only true for music which is art: and, in my opinion, only classical
music is art: so, a classical musician and mainly a classical composer are
artists: the others are not.
(So, DT's music is not a form of art... do you agree?)
Saying this, I'm not saying that modern music has no value: it is a different
thing. Everyone choses his way. I like them both.
Well, my brief opinions weren't all that brief... :)
Fabio
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 08:55:29 -0600
From: jskewes@why.net (jskewes)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Superior Orders
Message-ID: <19960403145529201.AAA77@tar175.why.net>
I will be sending off to Germany to get more copies of Superior's album
'behind' on April 15th. If you are interested in obtaining a copy, I need
your $$ in by April 13th.
This album is not available at any store in the US. You've seen the reviews
here on the jam - now support an up-and-coming progressive band!
Full ordering info is at:
http://www.why.net/users/jskewes/jsmusic.html
Thanks!
Jason
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Jason Skewes * jskewes@why.net * Fort Worth, TX
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Check out my home page: http://www.why.net/users/jskewes/index.html
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 13:46:19 -0800
From: skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: GC disc SOLD
Message-ID: <199604032146.NAA09955@dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com>
The GC disc I posted in tha jam has been sold.
Scott Cook
I more day till Dread Zeppelin in Santa Cruz!!!
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 17:04:08 -0400
From: ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: da pick, da apology, da head voice
Message-ID: <19960403220406.AAA27696@mail.pananet.com>
>I will admit that pick-juggling is a tricky issue. I tap mostly with my
>middle finger so I never have to worry about it anymore, but I used to
>practice that technique of switching off between fingers, so I wouldn't
>drop the pick when I went to tap with my index and suddenly had to flip
>the pick between my middle and ring fingers.
Yeah the Nuno way... I prefer doing that because I can control the string
noise better when I use the index finger... but sometimes it's more
convenient to use the middle... especially when you don't have much time to
change back to picking mode... but the chomper is still necessary when try
the 8-finger tapping technique ( I'm trying to learn how to do that now)
>(ever notice how Petrucci very smoothly shifts his grip whenever he goes
>into a speed-picking riff, then switches back for normal play? this
>technique has a purpose.)
>
I hadn't noticed that, but you're right... he does it when he sweeps too...
Is he gripping it between his thumb & middle? It's a really weird grip...
maybe that's his secret. Not for the speed... I know that comes w/ that
annoying thing called practice, but that ultra-smooth sound he gets... I
mean Paul Gilbert can pick just as fast (maybe even faster) but it doesn't
sound that smooth...
>> From: SEEGED73@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU
>> Subject: The natives are restless
>>
>> Bafu, Bafu, Bafu, where do I start?
>> From: ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
>> Subject: All about Bafu and the almighty bass solo from hell
>>
>> Bafu, Bafu, Bafu...
>
>Is there a reason everyone says my name three times? It doesn't open any
>magical portals to other dimensions or anything...
>
Maybe it's the recording engineer thing... I'm gonna study that too... hmmmmm..
>> you got it all wrong...
>
>Yes, I know. But by admitting I'm all wrong and asking questions, I'm also
>all human.
>
sorry dude, that came out sounding a little 'I-know-more-than-you-ish'...
It wasn't what I meant too say...
>different from falsetto. The term "head voice" is not a euphemism for
>falsetto, but a poor description of properly placing the tone in the masque
>of the face (part of the head), perhaps that is where the term derives its
>origin.
>
Does this mean that the head voice is a way to sing in our falsetto range w/
a fuller sounding voice?
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|in the distance, you faintly hear... |
| HEY!! HEEEEEEYYYY!!! LISTEN TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| ...and then the song starts. |
|===========================================================================|
|Bert's out by the pool shooting pigeons {Ernie} {ernie@.pananet.com}
|===========================================================================|
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 18:11:22 -0400
From: kurt@fgallery.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hi
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.4.3.-14.11.22.2916992174.270155@bbs.fgallery.com>
Sincerely i dont have any problem with the I/W drums.. what i Do have a
slight disklike for is the origial keyboard sound in the beginning of
Surrounded..im glad he changed it for Latm and Live in tokyo.. :)
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 17:23:16 -0500
From: keu@pointblank.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1404
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.4.3.-15.23.16.2377490627.1269263@pointblank.com>
>>From: nga@software-ag.de (Neil Gallop)
>>engineer and not so much on their producer. To sum up, in my opinion,
>>it is the band's decision that is (should be) final, although the
>>possibly more objective view of a good and experienced producer could
>>sometimes be useful.
What if the Band makes a Wrong decision, and Fucks themselves
up? Thats why Bands have admistration, (IE MANAGER) to deal
with things such as who's going to produce the Cd.
>From: Marc Respass <marcr@tiac.net>
>Ed Reed <ereed@comp.uark.edu> said:
>So what *does* make a musician in my opinion?
What gives YOU the right to say what a musician is?
A musician can be anyone who Thinks they one.
No matter what they play do or act.
HELL I Could record The sounds my ASS makes
when I take a Dump and Call it Music. Then i too would be a
musician...
-=Thats what i think and I have Bellowed=------Keu
"Aol would be a gian diesel-smoking buss with hundreds of ebola
vicims on board throwing dead wombats and rotten cabbage at
the other cars, most of which have been assembeled at home
from kits... -- An unamed staffer in the AOL productions
department in a message about "suppose the highways were like
the Net...."
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 14:24:45 -0800
From: ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
To: Ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: quickie on 7 string
Message-ID: <199604032224.OAA11452@dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com>
>> Didn't Hamer make a 7-string with a high A instead of a low B?
>
>If they did, I didn't know anything about it. I
hmm.. i did. i KNOW i've heard about it. I'll ask around and see what
i come up with.
~Rip
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Date: Wed, 03 Apr 1996 17:26:50 EST
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To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 15:35:04 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: THANK YOU!!
Message-ID: <199604032235.PAA14807@bud.indirect.com>
I just noticed the outpouring of support for me in the past few
jams, where people defended my Cd pricing without even first reading my
post about why. I'm... wow. I'm pretty stunned. Thanks very much. You're
all awesome!
MTFBWY! Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com/mikebahr@dreamt.org
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Date: 03 Apr 96 17:46:59 EST
From: Michael Pomerleau <72064.614@compuserve.com>
To: <Ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Yngwie's Article
Message-ID: <960403224658_72064.614_GHB48-1@CompuServe.COM>
>>
>
>on one more note i've got a thing w/ Yngwie reviewing bands, this was
>at the time of I&W, and he actually liked them. His only complaint was
>the drumming, maybe it was those drum triggers...
>
I read that too... I beliive they were the only band he actually liked... he
said he didn't like how MP played... he said that he was like a Neil Peart
on steroids and needed to take a valium and calm down. He also said that
'his choice of beats was terrible'... but over-all he said that DT was one
of his favorite bands at the moment... in fact it was the only song he
recognized. He even slagged off Satch! I think he liked Vai's tune though... <<
I have a copy of the text file of this article. If you guys want me to upload
it to the jam . . . let me know. Also, if someone wants to put it on their Web
page let me know
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 15:24:22 -0800
From: bosox1@ix.netcom.com (Craig Francis Moran)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Japanese fame
Message-ID: <199604032324.PAA09100@dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com>
What's up, jammers? I have a question that maybe someone can help me
with. Dream Theater and somewhat similar musicians Queensryche, among
other awesome groups, have achieved stellar status in Japan, far
surpassing their fame in the states. Or, so it seems to me at least.
I was wondering if there was a logical explanation for this or is it
just that Japan simply knows great music moreso than America.
later.
craig
ps - I managed to find and pick up a copy of the CD single for "Lie."
I had heard "To Live Forever" on the DT LiT videotape, but it sounds
awesome in the studio version as well. And the live version of
"Another Day"... nothing needs to be said except "great." It cost $15
but it was well worth it.
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 15:25:05 -0800
From: bosox1@ix.netcom.com (Craig Francis Moran)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Superior
Message-ID: <199604032325.PAA29707@dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com>
Where can I get my hands on this CD? Has it been released domestically
in the US? Also, is there anyone out there with an opinion of the
Echolyn CD? I saw them open for DT last year and they were really
good.
later
craig
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 16:40:46 -0700
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: P..r..o..g..r..e..s..s..i..o..n..s..
Message-ID: <199604032340.QAA25082@maple.enet.net>
OHMIGOD!!!!
I think I just had an idea. :-)
Well, I thought up a definition for progressive.
progressive (adj.) 1. Not afraid to try something new or different.
2. Type of slot machine
I'm gonna start a Ytse-Dictionary. Whenever a new term pops up on
the Jam, I'll put it in. Any suggestions? And, somebody else should start
the Ytse-Quote collection. Hell, I'll do it. Send me ideas for that too.
"Bafu, you sick fucking wierdo" is in there already. ;-)
That from Damon, btw.
Ben Laussade
BAFU! BAFU! BAFU!!!!!
Gezuhndeit.
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 18:56:08 -0500
From: DreamNDay@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: T-Shirts
Message-ID: <960403185607_461757761@emout10.mail.aol.com>
Yes, only one post this time, but expect a lot in a little while. Anyone have
any extra t-shirts from the holiday shows? I'd love to buy one off someone.
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Oh no! Here comes DreamNDay!
Everybody hide your bandwidth before he takes it all!
later--------------Brian
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 19:07:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Kevin Rios <krios@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Trade....
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960403190542.1676A-100000@scls1>
Mape, E-mail me. I have a trade for you. Sorry for wasted space, don't
have the address.
Kevin
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 20:22:46 -0400
From: kurt@fgallery.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Just had a dream
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.4.3.-12.22.46.2916992174.270167@bbs.fgallery.com>
I just had a dream i was blasting away at a bus full of Green day
thespians ..or whatever their fans are called.. and when i woke up..IT
WAS TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 20:15:08 -0500 (EST)
From: Shamus McConney <savage@grove.ufl.EDU>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Satch on Rockline
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960403201340.19455A-100000@magnolia>
is this a new show or the one that they did when he releaced "Joe Satriani"?
thanks
shamus
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*"As I wake in the morning just to miss the sunset.*Shamus McConney *
* I lie here crying, but I know not why I'm upset. *savage@grove.ufl.edu *
* So I wipe away the little portions of my youth. *http://grove.ufl.edu/*
* Only to reveal another mystery and not a truth." *~savage *
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* -Adesso che ho perso la vista, ci vedo meglio e di piu. *
* "I was blind all the time while I was learning to see." *
* "Take the Time" -Dream Theater *
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 20:16:03 -0500
From: DreamNDay@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Me
Message-ID: <960403201600_368608887@mail02.mail.aol.com>
>12 posts in a jam is entirely fucking ridiculous!! I know you're proud
>that you post all the time, but when your posts are only put up seconds
>apart from eachother, it is a little extreme! I am interested to know
>how old you are, because it seems that the "contest" you seem to be
>having with yourself to see how many times you can post is extremely
>immature. If you think your posts are interesting enough to have 12 in
>one jam, you are fooling yourself, because you like your posts a lot
>better than I do. You are making yourself look foolish, so have a little
>self respect. Be seeing you.....
Well in case you haven't noticed, When I post 12 times in one jam, you don't
see me for a few jams. That's because I live in ARKVILLE, where online use is
a long distance phone call, and I use AOHell where you only get to use 5 free
hours a month. Therefore, i go on line every other day, and read and compose
all of my mail off line. So all of my mail comes in at once, and all of my
mail goes out at once. Its not that I'm TRYING to post a lot, its just that
when I go on and have 10+ jams in my mailbox, I have a lot of responses to
whats being said. I'm not proud that I post all the time. As far as the sig
goes, people have criticised me about posting a lot, and "If you can't beat
em, join em!" I'm not going to sit around and cry because someone thinks I
use up too much bandwidth. and I'm not going to change the way I am because
someone thinks I post too much. That's what the jam is for. Expressing your
feelings. This may be a Dream Theater list, but its really a family. I mean
what's the difference if I have a whole bunch of really short posts or one
real long one. I get bored reading extremely long posts (which I realize that
I am writing at this moment), and I know I'm not the only one. So give me a
break, will ya? That's all I have to say about that.
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Oh no! Here comes DreamNDay!
Everybody hide your bandwidth before he takes it all!
later--------------Brian
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