YTSEJAM Digest 1429
Today's Topics:
1) Rush Tribute, Ha ha (NDTC)
by Scotch <anthem@virginia.edu>
2) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/10/96 - 19:11:52" <response@ibmmail.com>
3) Journey
by m_washke@acad.lvc.edu
4) The Killing Hand
by "mmetzger" <mmetzger@bostech.com>
5) that web chat thingy
by ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
6) Serious question.....
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
7) quick savatage question
by ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
8) One more
by DreamNDay@aol.com
9) The Dream N Damon jam
by skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
10) Dead Winter are Les Miserable
by napkins@clandjop.com (Seth Hatlelid)
11) Re: Green Manalishi
by skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
12) Dream Theater chat room on WWW now available
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
13) Journey, Jon Cain vs. Greg Rolie....
by mojoman@pointblank.com
14) Rush Trib, 'Tage, DUI...
by Bigman <martinah@csd.uwm.edu>
15) Leviathan, Damon, More Damon
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
16) More from Metal Edge
by "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu>
17) WDADU
by Doug Cronkhite <dougc@cerf.net>
18) Monks, Damon, and Paul Gilbert
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:06:34 -0500
From: Scotch <anthem@virginia.edu>
To: the Homies <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Rush Tribute, Ha ha (NDTC)
Message-ID: <v01540b01ad91b6f5d092@bootp-234-126.bootp.virginia.edu>
Hey, whoever posted the "Unofficial Track Listing" for the Rush Tribute...
that was pretty funny. The most obscure, least-liked tracks, huh? I
almost believed it, too, until I got to the bottom and you said something
like "And my personal favorite, Speed Of Love."
Lovin' the humor around here...
Scott.
Mornin', Guv.
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:10:39 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/10/96 - 19:11:52" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199604101810.LAA14771@mindcrime.ax.com>
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 11:11:05 -0700
From: m_washke@acad.lvc.edu
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Journey
Message-ID: <199604101811.LAA14794@mindcrime.ax.com>
Damon,
Open Arms IS the last song on the Escape album. The song you were
refering to is called Mother Father and it is the song before it.
Mike Washkevich
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Date: 10 Apr 1996 14:23:35 U
From: "mmetzger" <mmetzger@bostech.com>
To: "YTSEJAM" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: The Killing Hand
Message-ID: <n1382976231.41144@macsmtp>
>> From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
>> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
>> Subject: So many posts, so little time...
>>
>> Oh, and one more thing. I'm asking again if anyone has a boot of the
>> June '95 Malibu show. I would KILL for a copy of that show.
OK. I'll spring for the offer.
His name is Warren.
He lives in Oregon.
He is an asshole.
Kill him and it is yours.
Mark Metzger
mmetzger@bostech.com
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 11:43:11 -0700
From: ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
To: Ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: that web chat thingy
Message-ID: <199604101843.LAA04334@dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com>
i went to that web chat for DT thing that dude set up, i dont really
liek that at all, i had to reload the page everytime to chat and i
couldnt even tell who was there or what the hell was going on, it also
says "no profanity" so that takes out 75% of my vocabulary, do you need
netscape or somethin? i MUCH prefer irc with our own server and skadz
as the head honcho, except i still havent gotten on auto ops! (hint
hint:) but seriously, i like irc, its all real time, and you can dcc
files while you chat and even i-phone (havent got it workin yet, ben,
you be 'round saturday?) and even more! dont you just love online
services? what would we all do without them???
oh yeah one more thing-
> ~Rip
>
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got one!!!!!!!!! :)
~Rip
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:45:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Serious question.....
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960410143318.17200A-100000@frogger.rs.itd.umich.edu>
THERE IS A POINT TO THIS, BEAR WITH ME....
(apologies in advance in any newbies start in w/ Top-X lists)
Circa 1990 or so, my fave bands were U2, Queen, Heart, Rush, Def Leppard
Circa NOW, my top tier looks like: Rush, DT, QR, echolyn and Yes
My question: SO, is my musical taste improving, or am I just becoming
more narrow-minded?
Why do I ask? Basically, someone was trying to convince me of the
merits of Hootie, and I totally refused to listen to her
But I thought about it later, and actually listened to "Cracked Rear
View" end to end for the first time, and while I still hate it, I have to
wonder now, everytime I hear Hootie on the radio, (which is far too often)
whether or not I would have liked that band if they had come out 5 years
earlier.....and that is a scary thought.....
Does listening to DT/Rush/QR totally kill a taste for 'simpler' pleasures?
MT'DT'BWY
partha mukhopadyay
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 11:51:54 -0700
From: ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
To: Ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: quick savatage question
Message-ID: <199604101851.LAA10911@dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com>
i just noticed, the guy who did that painting of criss oliva's charvel
in streets did the cover of handful of rain also... what other artwork
has he done for the guys?
thasall
~Rip
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:16:26 -0400
From: DreamNDay@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: One more
Message-ID: <960410151625_268581646@mail02.mail.aol.com>
One last post before I go. I feel that it would make a lot of people happier
if I would consolidate my posts. Yes, we can cut and paste in ARKVILLE, but
then I have to go open the sig and thats a pain.
=============================================================
Oh no! Here comes DreamNDay!
Everybody hide your bandwidth before he takes it all!
later--------------Brian
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:27:26 -0700
From: skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The Dream N Damon jam
Message-ID: <199604101927.MAA06186@dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com>
>>#2) About DreamnDay on vacation:: Cool, although it isn't anyhting I
have against the kid.....it's just that, now, RESPONSE at IBMMAIL will
take over first place in most frequent poster list!<<
I guess you haven't checked the TOC at the beginning of the jams
lately. I see Damon's name on there just as many times as Brian, MORE
the last few days. Plus Brian doesn't write essays on the jam either,
just quick replies.
Nothing against you, Damon. I enjoy reading your posts as much as
anyone else's. But Brian seems to be getting a lot of unwarranted flack
lately.
Scott Cook
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:29:39 -0500
From: napkins@clandjop.com (Seth Hatlelid)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dead Winter are Les Miserable
Message-ID: <v01510100ad91b89c2793@[204.71.98.30]>
Hiya,
As to Dead Winter Dead sounding like Les Miserables (My fav musical
tied with Miss Saigon), I say that is exactly what I thought when I heard
it. Is "I Am" and "Doesn't Matter Anyway" Thenardier or what?!! The
breakdown at the end od "I am" is sooooo stage oriented I can almost see
the barracades (anyone who has seen Les Miserables will know what I'm
talking about) turning and rotating about the stage. "One Child" and "Not
What you See"'s vocal harmonies and interplay are VERY reminescent of the
confrontation between Jean Val Jean and Javert after JVJ has revelead
himself as 24601 and he is trying to get to Cosette (is it just me or does
Cosette make anyone else queasy?) to fulfill Fontine's last request. "Dead
Winter Dead", 'Mozart and Madness" and "Starlight" are the Battle Hymms
such as "Red, the Color of Angry Men; I can see the armies attacking each
other, the screams of the dying, the cries of friends discovering fallen
comrades. DWD is a great rendition of a modern Les Miserables or even Miss
Saigon (deals with Vietnam, sort of Madame Butterfly). "One Child" also
reminds me of the scene where Eponine lies dying and is asking for Marius
to leave a kiss on her forehead after she is dead. I absolutely fell in
love with Eponine at that point in the play. DWD is great stuff, if you
like Dt and Les Miserables, I'd strongly advise you to check out DWD, Great
stuff, very touching. Anybody who doesn't cry when JVJ dies in Cosette's
arms is not human.
I just gave the abridged version of the book to my girlfriend. So
far she absolutely loves it, it's great reading. I do not advise reading
the unabrdiged version as it goes off on tangents that have nothing to do
with the story, ie 200 pages about Napolianic battle stratagy.
Cheers and happy listening!!!!
napkins@clandjop.com
Seth Hatlelid
"Mean People Suck!!!!!!"
'I just pulled all the frets out of my bass abd filled in the slots with
Bondo, so now I have a fretless bass that smells like my drummer's Nova!!"
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:28:37 -0700
From: skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Green Manalishi
Message-ID: <199604101928.MAA12751@dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com>
"Green Manilishi (spelling?) I think that James could do a fantastic
job
singing it. As for Derek - well, I heard a rumor a long time ago that
Fleetwood Mac originally did Green Manilishi, so there has to be room
for
keyboards in some capacity..."
>>>Well, FM did a song of the same name, but, it is not the same song.
Greg.<<<
Yes it is. Green Manalishi was written by Peter Green when he was in
Fleetwood Mac. If you listen to the FM's Green Manalishi you will hear
that it is the same song.
Scott Cook
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:36:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Dream Theater chat room on WWW now available
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960410153546.22560P-100000@bdmserver>
it is set up at:
http://chat.netcentral.net/cgi-bin/nph-chat?r=Dream+Theater
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:45:56 -0500
From: mojoman@pointblank.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Journey, Jon Cain vs. Greg Rolie....
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.4.10.15.45.56.2377490627.1276666@pointblank.com>
Open Arms is DEFINITELY the last song on 'Escape.' If you doubt
my knowledge on this subject, ask Digital Man. He can tell you just how
much I know about Journey...
Mother, Father... is the second to last song on Escape.
In reference to Cain vs. Rolie...I don't really think Jon Cain
was a 'driving' force behind the band....BUT .... JOn Cain added
something to the group never heard before....Before he entered the
group, Journey's lyrics were very abstract...Jon Cain brought the fans
into the lyrics...something a lot of bands seem to forget...
example ..."Just a City boy..." Dont Stop Believing, 1981
I can also say that Rolie also contributed to alot of bad vibes
in the band....He was going to be a part of this ReUnion effort but
backed out when Steve Perry joined in,...
Perry and Rolie never got along and Rolie was a bitch during band
practices....Im SURE that detracted from creativity....
Plus...for the one that started rattling off that frontiers was a
more successful album....
Journey's highest album on the charts was Escape (#2)
Frontiers reached 10 or 12 or something like that..
Escape clearly redefined that band, and Jon Cain was extremely
instrumental in that re-definition.
MojoMan Speaks with Great Authority and Pomposity
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 15:20:50 -0500 (CDT)
From: Bigman <martinah@csd.uwm.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rush Trib, 'Tage, DUI...
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960410150103.19437D-100000@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu>
Good Day from Planet Bigman...
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 96 16:08:22 +0100
> From: auzzy@tequila.entpe.fr (Stephane Auzilleau)
> Subject: RUSH TRIBUTE / OFFICIAL INFO!
>
> Hi there,
>
> I have on my desk a fax right from Magna Carta, with the final track listing
> of the Rush Tribute (release date: june 17, 96). Here it is:
>
> Working man / By-Tor and the snow dog / Jacob's ladder / The analog kid / La
> villa strangiato / YYZ / Natural science / Anthem / The trees / Mission /
> Red barchetta / Freewill / Closer to the heart.
Excellent. :^)
> Not bad? And the list of the artists involved is very impressive:
>
> Billy Shheehan / 3 guys from Shadow Gallery / Dean castronovo / Devin
> Townsend / Eric Martin / Fates Warning / Dream Theater (except Derek) /
> George Lynch / Jack Russell / Jake E Lee / James Murphy / Jens Johansen /
> Mark Slaughter / Michael Romeo / Robert Berry / Sean Malone and Sean reinert
> (ex-Cynic) / Sebastian Bach / Steve Morse / Stuart Hamm / Trent Gardner
> (Magellan) / Jeff Brockman (Cairo).
Hee hee... met a guy today with an authentic Billy Sheehan
autographed (Yamaha? can't remember...) bass. Sweet... :^)
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> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:05:24 EDT
> From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL
> To: ytsejam@ax.com
> Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
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Don't you hate it when you're in zombie mode from reading like 20
consecutive jams, and you snap out if it as your reading every word of
this message? I really gotta get more sleep... :^)
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> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 18:11:54 -0500
> From: "Anders C. Nilsson" <anders.nilsson@mdb.pp.se>
> Subject: Re: Savatage musical
[discussion about Savatage like Les Mis]
> If you live in the NY area, you'll be happy to know that Jon Oliva and Paul
> O'Neill (also known as the DREAM TEAM!) is puti
...yeah? please go on... I thought the same thing when I first
read the synopsis...
>
> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:51:10 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu>
> Subject: PLEASE READ
>
> This just in from the latest issue of Metal Edge:
>
> "Celebrity will get you everywhere, at least with the New Jersey
> State Police, as SEBASTIAN BACH (Skid Row) found out the night he got
> stopped for speeding and suspicion of DUI. Out for a night of fun with
> DREAM THEATER'S JAMES LABRIE and DEREK SHERINIAN in his repaired Jaguar,
> Bas was nearly done for- especially since he'd left his license and
> registration at home- but the trooper let him off when he found out that
> he'd stopped the singer of SKID ROW. 'He rips up the ticket and then he
> tells me he has a lawn cutting service, and can he come to my house and
> cut my lawn,' relates Bas. Fame definitely has it's rewards."
ROT-FLAME-OH!!!!!!! *DaBigman remembers LIT video...
"Gimme somthing that I fee-u-u-u-u-l... Somthing that is
ree-u-u-u-u-u-l..." Sabastian r00lz... :^)
Later,
DaBigman
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 13:24:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Leviathan, Damon, More Damon
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.92a.960410131223.116261E-100000@homer28.u.washington.edu>
> From: rtgood@students.wisc.edu (Ryan Thomas Good)
> Subject: Varoius Blurbs
>
> 4. LEVIATHAN
>
> Anyone else know about these guys?? "Deepest Secrets Beneath" is the CD
> of theirs that I have. If you know of them, someone reply on the jam,
> so we can enlighten the rest of the jammers about 'em.
I have their 5-track self-titled ep. These guys have obvious potential,
but they need some Kiwi Black to polish things up a bit. Do they still
sound Mindcrime-ish on DSB?
---- > From: "Ytse' Jim" <jlutz@hartford.edu> > Subject: VArious STuff > > > From: DreamNDay@aol.com > > Well, I'm off to France, so I'm unsubscribing temporarily. > > Oh well, it looks like we are down to one jam a day..and in swoops Bafu Vai.
;>
---- > From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> > Subject: Re: NTDC (just say no) > > Hey, what can I say? I may be blind, but I have senses you sighted > bastards wish you had. Like a better ear and the ability to reply to > digests not even in existence. Fear me. Fear me or die. :)
Okay, now I'm getting this mental image of that beast from "Legend." I think he was named "Evil" or something.
---- > From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> > Subject: Re: RUSH TRIBUTE Unofficial Track Listing (NDTC!) > > Rush tribute not out yet.
Fire bad. Me hungry. Go eat now.
High-Frequency Poster 3rd Lt.
Bafu Vai
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 16:34:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard A. Rivera" <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu> To: Dream Theater <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: More from Metal Edge Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.960410162858.24706B-100000@moose.uvm.edu>
The new issue of Metal Edge also has an interview and track-by-track breakdown of Mr. Big's new album "Hey Man." Here's what was mentioned about the Rush Tribute:
"Billy recorded five tracks for a Rush tribute album with Dream Theater drummer Mike Portnoy for Shrapnel Records. 'Mike knew the Rush stuff really well. I love Geddy Lee and Rush, but I never listened to it a lot and I had to learn the parts' [Billy Sheehan] notes. 'We learned it note for note and then messed around with it. I've heard a tape of just the bass and drums and it came out really cool. I hope Varney doesn't layer a million guitars over it and ruin it.'"
Richie
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 13:42:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Cronkhite <dougc@cerf.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: WDADU Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960410134123.8558A-100000@noc.cerf.net>
I heard a rumor that WDADU was going to be was going to be remixed and re-released. Anyone know any truth to the rumor ?
Doug
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 13:43:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Monks, Damon, and Paul Gilbert Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.92a.960410132658.116261G-100000@homer28.u.washington.edu>
Three things you DON'T want to see stuck on a desert island together.
---- > From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu> > Subject: DreamNDay... > > In ARKVILLE, they don't even *have* computers! Brian has to chizel his > responces in stone, then give them to a scribe in the monestary
[removed]
> So just remember, the next time you criticize Brian for posting too much, > think about all those poor monks, who would be without jobs if it > weren't for him!
GUIKGUIKGUUIK!! (Roscoe P. Coltrain laugh)
---- > From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> > Subject: Re: FINAL NOTICE > > Either way, I hope I made somebody besides myself laugh. So, I am not > Bafuvai, but Bafuvai can never come up with blind jokes like mine. And > yes, Bafu, that is a challenge.
Ooooooooooh. (insert sound of quaking knees here) Sorry, Damon, but I only know Good Musician jokes.
So I guess we're even.
---- > From: acook@tiac.net (acook) > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1406 > > Also, Paul Gilbert is blessed with INCREDIBLY long and dexterious fingers > that enable him to do incredible things. There are probably some reaches > and stuff that JP just can't physically do. He's a monster. However I > believe JP to be a much more versitile and interesting player.
Paul Gilbert! A monster! A terrifying monster! I found "Lean Into It" at a used cd store two days ago, ran home and transcribed the solo to "Daddy, Brother, Lover, Little Boy," then proceeded to curse Paul Gilbert aloud for his inhuman precision!! I didn't post the solo here because everyone on this list is human, so none of you would be able to play it!! DAAAAMN THAT TERRIFYINGLY FAST PAUL GILBERT!!
So, like, when's his cd-rom coming out? :)
Bafu Vai
p.s. John Petrucci rules.
p.p.s. no I can't play that solo.
p.p.p.s. yet.
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