YTSEJAM Digest 1435
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/12/96 - 01:47:31" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) SubCon dub
by rbarker@epix.net
3) Re: Stupid People
by jestok@interlog.com (John Estok)
4) Genesis Tribute
by Jane & Roger Goff <jnrgoff@capital.net>
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1432
by kretschmer@bdt.com (Jon Kretschmer)
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1433
by DYNAMOJOE@aol.com
7) set list for 12/30/95 show
by Brian Cox <lerxst@metronet.com>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1434
by "C. Susan Frankel" <96sp211@dvc.edu>
9) YtseCon III Attendees List
by "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
10) Superior...
by "Dr. Teeth" <GLYDE@VAX1.Mankato.MSUS.EDU>
11) Into the flood again...
by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
12) Re: The 'New' WDADU!
by The One Who Helps to Set the Sun <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
13) Re: Bad Traders List
by The One Who Helps to Set the Sun <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
14) Oh yeah!!!
by "Dr. Teeth" <GLYDE@VAX1.Mankato.MSUS.EDU>
15) I saw Rush lookalike band/and Doors lookalike b
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1434
by ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
17) Genesis Tribute
by "Ryan Eschauzier '97" <rdesc@conncoll.edu>
18) Re: coupla quick things .....
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
19) Tape Tree
by "Ryan Eschauzier '97" <rdesc@conncoll.edu>
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 20:46:18 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/12/96 - 01:47:31" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199604120046.RAA18365@mindcrime.ax.com>
The mail item that you sent at 00:46:08 GMT on 12 Apr 1996 has been delivered.
However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a
format that is acceptable to the recipient, FITIPMOL at IBMMAIL.
Information beyond column 79 in the mail item will have been wrapped.
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 96 20:49:40 PDT
From: rbarker@epix.net
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: SubCon dub
Message-ID: <Chameleon.960411205109.rbarker@.epix.net>
To the guy who is dubbing subconcious,
Did you get your software problem straightened out
yet. Just curious to when I will be recieving my CD!
Robert Barker(Ibanez)
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Name: Barker
E-mail: rbarker@epix.net
Date: 4/11/96
Time: 8:49:40 PM
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 21:27:26 -0400
From: jestok@interlog.com (John Estok)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Stupid People
Message-ID: <199604120126.VAA03704@gold.interlog.com>
>Pantera) but also, DT is much like metallica on the harder stuff, what
>did he say about Lie? (btw i'm NOT saying Lie is like metallica at
>all... nononononono)
>
Actually we did also listen to Lie and he of course provided a very
warped view of music. This sounds ridiculous, but I swear to God, he really
said this. During the lyrics:
"Never been much of a doubting Thomas
But nothing breaks like a broken promise."
He said that those lines are (in his exact words) "filler". I
didn't even bother to argue. I mean, this guy listens to the Presidents of
Usa. I'm also a HUGE Pantera fan, he said that they are Metallica clones.
Holy shit, this guy is screwed.
Mike (aka. Michelob, my henceforth name)
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 21:31:29 -0400
From: Jane & Roger Goff <jnrgoff@capital.net>
To: rtgood@students.wisc.edu
Subject: Genesis Tribute
Message-ID: <316DB271.6C47@capital.net>
Ryan-
In reponse to your request on whether the Magna Carta "Genesis Tribute" is worth picking
up...YES IT IS!
Although not as good as the other two, there are some brilliant performances on the disc
including Watcher Of The Skies (by Robert Berry & Hush), Entangled (by Shadow Gallery),
Ripples (by Annie Haslam), and my favorite Squonk (by Cairo).
Ifm you have trouble finding this (or if you are interested in the upcoming RUSH and
Jethru Tull tributes in June or if you want to check out the one of the best progressive
albums of last year...Shadow Gallery's Carved In Stone...) let me know.
I have a small mail order business and have an account set up with the label.
Roger
jnrgoff@capital.net
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 18:43:08 +0800
From: kretschmer@bdt.com (Jon Kretschmer)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1432
Message-ID: <v01510105ad9291906023@[206.14.103.54]>
>Sorry, Bafu. O.K. I am the only obnoxious sarcastic person on the jam. The
>undisputed heavyweight champion. Any challengers?
Me : ) I reek of cynisism and sarcasm, I just dont post much.
I dont get inspired much actually...Thats what I should say. Ho hum, the
life of a bored, uninspired jammer. Go take a long walk off a short pier.
Jon
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 21:52:11 -0400
From: DYNAMOJOE@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1433
Message-ID: <960411215208_189479748@mail06>
Mentioning the five discs he listened to that day, Steve B mentioned Eric
Johnson. Does anyone know when his new disc is to be released? My friends and
I have been waiting about 5 years since we saw him on the "Musicom" tour and
he played 3 new songs that night. Finally gave up waiting but heard something
awhile back about it being released sometime very soon. Any info? Apoligise
for the non-DT content but I figure the collection for great musical taste on
this list, someone should be able to help me out. Later. Oct and new DT can't
get here fast enough.
(And I thought everyone knew the words to 'Paul Revere'?)
Dave
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 20:54:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: Brian Cox <lerxst@metronet.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: set list for 12/30/95 show
Message-ID: <199604120154.AA04590@metronet.com>
here is the set list...
Dream Theater
New London, CT
"El-N-Gee"
12/30/95
Wake Up! Intro
6:00
Under a Glass Moon
Caught in a Web
Lie
Lifting Shadows off a Dream
Guitar Solo
Scarred
Surrounded
Keyboard Solo
Erotomania (with drum solo)
Voices
The Silent Man (Electric)
Pull Me Under
Perfect Strangers
show runs just under 2 hours....
<><><><><><><><><> Brian V. Cox (lerxst@metronet.com) <><><><><><><><><>
<>Rush|Dream Theater|Queensryche|King's X|Echolyn|King Crimson|Voivod><>
"You have to systematically create confusion - it sets creativity free.
Everything that is contradictory creates life."
-Salvador Dali, 1980
<><><><><><><><><>DAT Taper/Trader - Email me for list<><><><><><><><><>
<><><><><><><><><>< http://www.metronet.com/~lerxst/ ><><><><><><><><><>
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 19:16:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: "C. Susan Frankel" <96sp211@dvc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1434
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960411183748.1630C-100000@viking.dvc.edu>
> BTW - Galactic Cowboys show last night ruled! We got to meet the Bass
> player and he was very cool.
Yeah, we shook his finger!
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@ .. @ /\_/\
(----) Charone Frankel ( o.o )
( >__< ) <96sp211@dvc.edu> > - <
"Death is the first dancing turrtellle!"- James LaBrie
"Hey man, where's your sense of humor?"- Bart Simpson
"Aalllrrighty then!"- Ace Ventura
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 22:20:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Christopher R. Merlo" <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: YtseCon III Attendees List
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9604112242.A27559-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
YtseCon III Attendees List
Name <e-mail address> D/P + x D/P = I'm definite/possible and my x
friends are definite/possible. Please check your name, address, and number
of people attending for accuracy. Report problems to me, Chris Merlo, at
d-man@dreamt.org or cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu.
I will NOT assume that you are or are not going, depending on where you
live, or how long you have known me. If you plan to attend YtseCon III,
and your name is not on this list, e-mail me and tell me explicitly that
you plan to attend.
Also, please remember that I'm not in charge of the Ytsecon. I'm just
collecting names. Jeff Chew (jc309@columbia.edu) is the man to ask
administrative stuff (like, "When is the Con? Where will it be held?").
As it seems, the Con will be held in New Jersey in October. So there. :p
Allen, Trey <tallen@junix.ju.edu> D + 1P
Augustover, Heath <augie@unix.asb.com> D + ??
Backof, Michael <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu> D + 0
Barker, Rob <rbarker@epix.net> D + 0
Benenati, Frank <mojoman@pointblank.com> D + 0
Chew, Jeff <jc309@columbia.edu> D + ??
Cleary, Corey <clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu> D + 0
Goldenberg, Rachel <wisha@li.net> P + 1P
Griffin, Pat <c675311@showme.missouri.edu> P + 1P Rides
Herman, Scott <anthem@virginia.edu> ? + ??
Inverso, Ryan <rinverso@cosi.stockton.edu> D + 6P
Kirk, Brian <bkirk@blkbox.com> D + 0
Kita Woo <kitawoo@aol.com> P + 1P
Klunck, Chad <raytheon@dreamt.org> P + 0
Lutz, James <jlutz@hartford.edu> P + 4P
Merlo, Chris <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> D + 2P Rides
Miller, Andrew <ytsejam@udel.edu> P + 4P
Moury, Jon <jmoury@wam.umd.edu> P + 0
Olson, Jeffrey <sinista@netexpress.net> D + 3P
Ostrich, Mike <syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu> D + 0 Rides Sleep
Plotkin, David <dhplotki@students.wisc.edu> D + 1D
Rios, Kevin <krios@suffolk.lib.ny.us> D + 0
Skadberg, Ryan <skadz@bluesky.net> D + 2P
Slang, Greg <slang@internexus.net> D + 2D
YoSammity <yosammity@aol.com> P + 1P
Rides: Volunteers for rides.
Sleep: Volunteers for places for Jammers to crash.
Contact these people separately.
Last updated April 11th
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 21:21:06 -0600 (CST)
From: "Dr. Teeth" <GLYDE@VAX1.Mankato.MSUS.EDU>
To: Ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Superior...
Message-ID: <01I3FH8JESGY002ORA@VAX1.Mankato.MSUS.EDU>
I totally forgot who's doing the Superior CD orders, but...
Are they coming anytime soon? I think I sent in my check a month ago and I'm
impatiently waiting to hear this Godlike band in the flesh!
I want my BEHIND! (In fact, a lot of people do. It's kinda cute...)
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(____________/ / /___ / / \/ / / / /\ /_/__ /_____________)
(______/ / /\__/\ / / / / / / / / /\____\ /______)
(___/ /_/___/ / /_/___ / / /_/___/ / /_/____ /_____)
(_) \_____\/ \_____\ \/ \_____\/ \______\ (_)
______ ____
\ And the Lord spake, saying, "First shalt thou /
\ take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, /
\ no less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the /
\ number of the counting shalt be three. Four shalt thou not /
\ count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then /
\ proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number /
\ three, being the third number, be reached, then /
\ lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch /
\ towards thou foe, who being naughty in my sight, /
\ shall snuff it." /
\ /
\ The most beautiful thing /
\ that this world has to offer /
\ is a woman's smiling face. /
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 21:22:18 -0500 (CDT)
From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Into the flood again...
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960411211136.8953A-100000@indy17.gclab.missouri.edu>
I just read 23 ytsejams, and boy are my eyes tired.
First: Itchy: the top ten was cool. I'm shocked that I was on it.
A quick note about the 'jam replys. There is a big difference between
sarcasm and ridicule. I THINK YOU ALL KNOW THE EVENT I'M REFERING TO.
Ridcule won't gain you much respect amongst your peers.
About my IRC page... I keep saying it will be up in a month... however,
due to demand, I will probably sit down next week and write the info,
then just add pics as I get/scan them. I'll let you all know when it's up.
THE YTSECON: If you are planning to go to the ytsecon, please email me
at: ytsecon@vortex.cc.missouri.edu
I am starting a temporary Idea Exchange type of mailing list to enlist
your help in the planning of the Con. I'll forward all the ideas and
such to Jeff, and it will give everyone a chance to make arrangements
(ie: sleeping, bootleg trades, rides, etc) I want to hear from everyone
who is thinking about going, whether you actually go or not.
IRC: One last time, for all the info, and my edit of mIRC, which will
*directly* connect you to irc.dreamt.org, go to:
http://www.phlab.missouri.edu/~c675311/mirc.html
and remember... it's Windows only, sorry Crapintoshers!
I think that's it for now. I'm out of town for the next 2 weekends, so
email replys may be slow. Be patient. Later all.
h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 /
| Pat Griffin Reality2 Design |
| c675311@showme.missouri.edu c675311@cclabs.missouri.edu |
h t t p : / / w w w . m i s s o u r i . e d u / ~ c 6 7 5 3 1 1 /
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 21:23:34 -0500 (CDT)
From: The One Who Helps to Set the Sun <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: The 'New' WDADU!
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960411212219.21501C-100000@eehpx7.cen.uiuc.edu>
>
> It was quite a shock looking back to how DT used to dress in the 80's. I'd
> seen the CD before, but, that was back in '92, so back then I wasn't
> suprised, but looking at the liners from more recent CDs, whew...
>
If you think that is funny, I laughed my ass off when i saw them in
Instrumental I. They were definitley a hair band then.
Ed
[31m WWW: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/
[34m DT: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/polzin/dt/dt.htm
[35mBOOTLEGS: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/polzin/boots/boots.htm
[35m------------------------------------------------------------
[37m You walk into a room to find only a
[37m dead man, shot through the head, a
[37m table, and fifty-three bicycles on
[37m the floor. What happened?
[35m------------------------------------------------------------
[35m- finger polzin@students.uiuc.edu -
[35m- for the answer -
[35m------------------------------------------------------------
[37m
[0m
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 21:29:05 -0500 (CDT)
From: The One Who Helps to Set the Sun <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
To: Scott Cook <skooc@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Bad Traders List
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960411212753.21501D@eehpx7.cen.uiuc.edu>
On Thu, 11 Apr 1996, Scott Cook wrote:
> A friend of mine sent me a list of Bad Traders from alt.music.bootlegs
> today. [yes, Al Balk. is on there.] I went ahead and kept it so if
> anyone would like a copy please email me privately and I'll send it to
> you. It's about half the length of a regular jam, so I won't post it.
>
It's also available on the web. Check out my web page for the URL. It's
either under music or cool links. Later.
Ed
[31m WWW: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/
[34m DT: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/polzin/dt/dt.htm
[35mBOOTLEGS: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/polzin/boots/boots.htm
[35m------------------------------------------------------------
[37m You walk into a room to find only a
[37m dead man, shot through the head, a
[37m table, and fifty-three bicycles on
[37m the floor. What happened?
[35m------------------------------------------------------------
[35m- finger polzin@students.uiuc.edu -
[35m- for the answer -
[35m------------------------------------------------------------
[37m
[0m
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 21:40:16 -0600 (CST)
From: "Dr. Teeth" <GLYDE@VAX1.Mankato.MSUS.EDU>
To: Ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Oh yeah!!!
Message-ID: <01I3FHVBLJFS002ORA@VAX1.Mankato.MSUS.EDU>
One question that's been burning in my mind...
Who the hell is that bass player on Seinfeld??? You know the one I'm talkin'
about. That sassy-ass muthafucker that's constantly playing between scenes...
Does he/she have an album out? This is the kind of funk that I dig!!! Any
info, kids?
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\ Spam Haiku: /
\ /
\ Mysterious meat, /
\ Lying on my Wonder Bread. /
\ I will not eat you. /
\ /
\ "The most beautiful thing /
\ that this world has to offer /
\ is a woman's smiling face." /
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 22:26:44 -0500
From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: I saw Rush lookalike band/and Doors lookalike b
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.4.11.-10.26.44.4462.1968@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
Hey
Last night here in Kansas City, I saw a double header of two
bands called:
2112 and The Back Doors.
These bands look and sound like the bands they represent. 2112
Did a very nice job on the Rush covers. The Back Doors looked and acted
alot like "The Doors". Anyone seen these bands? A good time!
Todd
market@clubmet.com
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 23:30:31 -0400
From: ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1434
Message-ID: <19960412033029.AAA12322@mail.pananet.com>
m
>now faced with a difficult decision: should I buy the Ibanez Universe
>(7-string) or the JPM-100? I understand both are in the same price range
>(~$1500) and I can't decide.
I'd go for the 7-string. Of course, you should try'em both out and see
which one feels better. Damn, I which I had as much money as you:) me and
my piece of sh*t Epiphone...
>Damn it, there was something else I wanted to say! Grrr... That's what I
>get for reading all the jams THEN replying instead of replying as I think of
>things to say. :P
I have that same problem...:)
>What is the derivation of "Angra"? Anyone know? It keeps cropping
>up in an invocation in the book I'm reading now (STALKING TENDER PREY
>by Storm Constantine, folks in the US will have a hard time finding it
>:)) and since it's at the beginning of the phrase and always
Well I'm quite sure they're not referring to the band:) but I read in their
webpage that's it's Brazilian for a dock or something like that. I'm sure
it was something to do w/ water and boats.
>of secret things I could remember.......just kind of like all the old tunes
>and lyrics we still know. Kill 'em all? Vivid?? Practice What you Preach?
>I remember lots of the lyrics. Cool, huh?? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>_
You blah blah blah blah
I don't believe a word you say.
blah blah blah blah what you say...
sorry... can't remember... I can hum the solo though... that Alex
Skolnik...too fast for your own good..
----------------------------------
It's time to say good-bye :(
Ernie
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 23:42:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ryan Eschauzier '97" <rdesc@conncoll.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Genesis Tribute
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9604112320.B9414-0100000@dsys.cc.conncoll.edu>
The Genesis Tribute may be the best of the three so far. Robert Berry
does Watcher of The Skies and Enchant does Man of Our Times. Shadow
Gallery, Magellan and others are on the album. Email me if you want
details. I also have the Yes and Pink Floyd albums.
* 2 1 1 2 * 2 1 1 2 * 2 1 1 2 *
|%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^|
|+-="For once, I'll fight for what I believe in."+-= |
"You'll stand alone against everybody for the first time in your life?"
____________"Yes, for the first time in my life!"___________
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rdesc@conncoll.edu Ryan Eschauzier '97 (860) 439-4085
Connecticut College
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Date: Thu, 11 Apr 96 23:45:47 EDT
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: coupla quick things .....
Message-ID: <9604120345.AA23715@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Even Skadz is behind on jams. Something is quite wrong when the head of the
whole list is behind. I think maybe he is trying to send us ahint.
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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:00:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ryan Eschauzier '97" <rdesc@conncoll.edu>
To: RESPONSE at IBMAIL <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Tape Tree
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9604112355.H9414-0100000@dsys.cc.conncoll.edu>
Since I missed out on the first Tape tree,{ luckily my brother got his
hands on a copy, thanks to a very kind fellow jammer named Heath} I would
love the chance to get a copy of the CT show! I
think the second CT show was longer than the first one (the show I saw,
and I am still bitter about waiting in the freezing cold for 4 hours),
but I don't know what they played for the second show. How about a set
list, even though I'm sure it has been posted in the past, I would
appreciate it.
* 2 1 1 2 * 2 1 1 2 * 2 1 1 2 *
|%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^|
|+-="For once, I'll fight for what I believe in."+-= |
"You'll stand alone against everybody for the first time in your life?"
____________"Yes, for the first time in my life!"___________
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rdesc@conncoll.edu Ryan Eschauzier '97 (860) 439-4085
Connecticut College
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