YTSEJAM digest 1436

From: ytsejam@ax.com
Date: Fri Apr 12 1996 - 10:34:52 EDT

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                                YTSEJAM Digest 1436

    Today's Topics:

      1) Re: 'Most Frequent Poster'-recount... (NDTC)
     by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
      2) Oedipus Rex's Majesty
     by napkins@clandjop.com (Seth Hatlelid)
      3) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1432
     by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
      4) Re: set list for 12/30/95 show
     by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
      5) Re: YtseCon III Attendees List
     by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
      6) Re: Genesis Tribute
     by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
      7) Mail Item Format Warning
     by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/12/96 - 05:29:33" <response@ibmmail.com>
      8) 7 Strings and Stuff
     by "Brian K. Adams" <aa467@seorf.ohiou.edu>
      9) J. ARCH vocals
     by Marc Contrady <constabl@postoffice.ptd.net>
     10) Satch,Portnoy,sherinian,and a post from mike P.
     by John Calvacca <awake@pb.net>
     11) Heheheh
     by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
     12) Being behind ....
     by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
     13) Trooper/QRSJT
     by fitipmol@ibmmail.com
     14) Noise (PASS|)
     by fitipmol@ibmmail.com
     15) Superior "Behind"
     by rkasper@cclink.aus.etn.com
     16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1435
     by babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
     17) Blah, Blah, Blah...
     by btomko@home.glasscity.net
     18) Summer Concerts
     by babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
     19) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1429
     by babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
     20) Digest 1422
     by clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E. Cleary)
     21) YtseCon III
     by Space Dye Vest <jc309@columbia.edu>

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    Date: Fri, 12 Apr 96 0:10:30 EDT
    From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: 'Most Frequent Poster'-recount... (NDTC)
    Message-ID: <9604120410.AA13640@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>

    Wow. I am number 3? Well, look out response@ipmail, or whatever your mail
    address is. You are going down. Down, I tell you. You only get one per jam. I
    can post five, or six times. Fuck off. You are done. Slip down to number 3,
    you bastard!!!!!!!!! Damon is coming for ya.

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    Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 23:16:11 -0500
    From: napkins@clandjop.com (Seth Hatlelid)
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Oedipus Rex's Majesty
    Message-ID: <v01510101ad938727af10@[204.71.98.55]>

    Hiya,

    >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    > Once lost but I was found
    > When I heard the stained glass shatter all around me
    > I sent the spirits tumbling down the hill
    > But I will hold this one on high above me still
    > She whispers words to clear my mind
    > I once could see but now at last I'M BLIND

            I was looking at at this and wondering if Surrounded could be
    inspired by Oedipus Rex. "Once lost but I was found" Young Oedipus being
    abandoned by his parents and being found by the shepard. "When I heard the
    stained glass shatter all around me" Oedipus's world crumbling that he is
    the cursed one Apollo spoke of because he fullfilled the profesy of killing
    his father and marrying his mother (I didn't think that it was possible to
    do that and not know it until I read this play)."I sent the spirits
    tumbling down the hill"-Oedipus condems and banishes the oracles. "But I
    will hold this one on high above me still" Oedipus's one fatal flaw where
    he must always seek out the truth, even if it be harmful to him. "She
    whispers words to clear my mind" Jocasta (Oedipus's mother and wife)
    telling Oedipus that he could not be the killer of Lyuas because Lyuas was
    profisized to be killed by her own son which was left to die in the fields.
    "I once could see but now at last I'm blind" at the end of the play
    Oedipus is banished from from Thebes and he blinds himself.

            Just one possibility, any thoughts?

    Cheers! Beers! Fears! Rears! Lears! And Tuna Casserole!

    napkins@clandjop.com
    Seth Hatlelid

    "Mean People Suck!!!!!!"

    'I just pulled all the frets out of my bass abd filled in the slots with
    Bondo, so now I have a fretless bass that smells like my drummer's Nova!!"

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    Date: Fri, 12 Apr 96 0:16:15 EDT
    From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1432
    Message-ID: <9604120416.AA22439@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>

    Well, John. I would give you the credit, but since you don't post nearly as
    often as I do, you lose. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Loved the Styx tour
    listing, you made my day, whoever posted it. And, if I remember right,
    ytsecon III is in Jersey. (YES, YES YESYESYES). DT rules. Rush tribute album
    rules. Styx rules. Journey rules. If you think I am an idiot, you suck. I am
    number 1. bow down before the one you serve. Uhhhh, excuse me, I got out of
    hand there.

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    Date: Fri, 12 Apr 96 0:18:36 EDT
    From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: set list for 12/30/95 show
    Message-ID: <9604120418.AA24933@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>

    Brian. Please, please, please make me a copy of that. My email address is
    s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu. I will give you my eyes if you do. :)

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    Date: Fri, 12 Apr 96 0:25:25 EDT
    From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: YtseCon III Attendees List
    Message-ID: <9604120425.AA18069@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>

    All right, jammers. Here's your chance to do your good deed for your lifetime.

    I have every intention of going to the con III, since I live in Jersey.
    (D-man I would say to put my name down, but there is a bit of a problem).
    Well, as most of you know, I am blind and cannot supply my own transportation
    to the con. Any of you Jersey people that are going and aren't too afraid of
    having my ass in your backseat for an evening, please get in touch with me at
    s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu before mid-May, in fact as soon as possible so
    that I can work something out with you. Guys, this means a lot to me. I want
    to meet DT, because they have inspired me greatly. No other band has done
    this except for Rush and Yes. DT is, of course, the only band I have a shot
    in hell of meeting unless I get realy famous. I would also like to see if
    they want to do a radio interview. (heheheheheh). So, anybody who wants to do
    this favor for me, please get in touch at s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu.
    Besides, wouldn't you all like to meet me in the flesh, either just for
    curiosity's sake, or to kick my ass for cluttering up the jam with useless
    bullshit like this post here?

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    Date: Fri, 12 Apr 96 0:29:28 EDT
    From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Re: Genesis Tribute
    Message-ID: <9604120429.AA04568@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>

    I have all three tributes, and I like Genesis and Yes the same. I like Pink
    Floyd, too, but I would've rather heard different songs from different albums
    instead of the whole Dark Side of the Moon. It is still a great disk though.

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    Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:28:19 EDT
    From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/12/96 - 05:29:33" <response@ibmmail.com>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
    Message-ID: <199604120428.VAA25589@mindcrime.ax.com>

    The mail item that you sent at 04:28:13 GMT on 12 Apr 1996 has been delivered.

    However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a
    format that is acceptable to the recipient, FITIPMOL at IBMMAIL.
    Information beyond column 79 in the mail item will have been wrapped.

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    Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:42:27 -0400 (EDT)
    From: "Brian K. Adams" <aa467@seorf.ohiou.edu>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: 7 Strings and Stuff
    Message-ID: <199604120442.AAA03360@ra.cs.ohiou.edu>

    I noticed a few of you were mentioning that you may be interested in
    purchasing Ibanez guitars. I posted this a week or so ago when Chad Cook
    mentioned the new JP model but I'll post it again. I work at a music
    store that is an Ibanez (among many other things) dealer. If you want to
    order one I would be willing to beat any of the prices you may have been
    quoted. Why am I willing to do this? Well for one I was just promoted to
    manager (i.e. I don't work on commission anymore). The second reason
    being I like to help out you fellow jammers because who knows when YOU may
    have a boot or something that I might be interested in.

    We are a store located in Athens,Ohio.....(Ever heard of Jeff Foxworthy?
    His humor hits very close to home if you know what I mean.) So the more
    guitars like 7 strings and JPm's that I move through the store the more
    luck I have getting promotional materials (such as the life size JP poster
    hanging in my studio) out of Ibanez. Which means the more quantities I
    have the more I would be willing to part with.

    If you have any questions or want any info/specs/prices please let me know

    Brian Adams
    aa467@seorf.ohiou.edu

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    Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 00:43:13 -0400 (EDT)
    From: Marc Contrady <constabl@postoffice.ptd.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: J. ARCH vocals
    Message-ID: <199604120443.AAA13521@ns1.ptd.net>

    I was pondering. If the vocals on Antiquities for the Killing Hand with J.
    Arch singing were recorded on a radio (boom box), how come there is a second
    track at the end of the song where he sings "I laugh what I have done...".
    There is a layer of his voice behind the master track of his voice. This
    can't be done on a radio (boom box).

    Just wondering.

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    Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 01:04:39 -0400
    From: John Calvacca <awake@pb.net>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Satch,Portnoy,sherinian,and a post from mike P.
    Message-ID: <316DE467.248F@pb.net>

    Hello Fellow Jammers!!

            I have just come home from what can be described as one of the
    best nights of my life. Not only did I see Joe Satriani kick ass at the
    Roseland(New York), But guess who I ran into on the way to get my
    friends coat!!! None other then Mike Portnoy and Derek Sherinian!!!!
    How is that for luck!! NOt only do I see a great performance by Satch ,
    but I hung out with members of DT for a little while!! I WANT TO BE THE
    FIRST ONE TO POST THIS MESSAGE FROM MIKE PORTNOY. THERE IS A NEW
    EDITION TO THE DREAM THEATER FAM. YES FOLKS THERE IS A NEW LaBRIE!!
    JAMES AND HIS WIFE(I THINK HE'S MARRIED) HAD A BABY GIRL!! I would like
    to take this opportunity to congradulate Them from the jam!!!!!

                                    awake@pb.net
                                    (John Calvacca)

    P.S. sorry if there is any spelling errors I just got home from the
    show!!!!!!

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    Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 01:57:40 -0400 (EDT)
    From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
    To: ytsejam@ax.com
    Subject: Heheheh
    Message-ID: <199604120557.BAA21043@wicked.stigmata.org>

    I thought it was funny that Ryan Good said that he could admit that
    he had all the Alice in Chains CDs. Why you may ask? Who sings
    that song that's right before the Resevoir Dogs thing at the
    DT shows? Something about a chicken or something :)

    Skadz

    -- 
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    Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 02:07:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Being behind .... Message-ID: <199604120607.CAA21106@wicked.stigmata.org>

    Well... its not a hint, its just the sad fact that I work too much to even have time to read my email. I get like 500-600 emails a day, mostly from technical mailing lists (portmasters, linux, bsdi, inet-access) and spend alot of time sorting through (read erasing) those. I was working two jobs (UNTIL today) and now have a hell week and then plan on taking a week off, so I should have time to catch up on my life and email and web devel in about a week.

    Skadz

    -- +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ | Ryan P Skadberg skadz@bluesky.net | | System Administrator / Web Developer Blue Sky, Inc. | | http://www.bluesky.net/skadz/ http://www.dreamt.org/ | +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ | "'Seize the Day', I heard him say, Life will not always be this way" | +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+

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    Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 03:29:10 EDT From: fitipmol@ibmmail.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Trooper/QRSJT Message-ID: <199604120729.AAA00726@mindcrime.ax.com>

    --- Saapunut 03.MAPE 90-4694432 12-04-96 10.30 -> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBM IMX

    Hellow all,

    I think I've heard someone say that Dream Theater has covered Iron Maiden's "The Trooper" sometime in the past. Now would someone of you experts tell me if there's any truth to this? If they have, has the gig/rehearsal/whatever been recorded? If so, on what bootleg it is on? I'd like to hear this since we used to mess around the song back when I played in a band, and I've heard numerous versions of the song. Somehow I think DT's version would "kick serious butt" ((c)JLB 12/29/95). I'm sorry if this has been beaten to death before, but who'll stop me from flogging a dead horse? :P

    The other thing. I've been also hunting that Queensryche's San Jose tape. I've been a member of Screaming In Digital for ages but you just can't get this kind of requests to the moderated SID anymore. Any help concerning this tape would be greatly appreciated.

    _Mape_

    May the FARCE be with us.

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    Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 03:35:20 EDT From: fitipmol@ibmmail.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Noise (PASS|) Message-ID: <199604120735.AAA00862@mindcrime.ax.com>

    --- Saapunut 03.MAPE 90-4694432 12-04-96 10.36 -> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBM IMX

    Gosh, I must do the unthinkable...

    I while ago I dared DreamNDay about which one of us comes from a smaller village. The stakes just might have been too high for me....and of course I lost the bet, so:

    Now who of you want to come and witness when I eat a truckload of manure?

    _Mape_

    P.S.:Arkville has about a two mile radius...I'm not bitter but...

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    Date: Fri, 12 Apr 96 08:23:08 CST From: rkasper@cclink.aus.etn.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Superior "Behind" Message-ID: <9603128293.AA829323095@cclink.aus.etn.com>

    Superior's BEHIND is a great disc! Way back in 'the day', when Bernd asked if anyone'd help with their English translations of the German lyrics - little did I know what a great disc I'd be receiving months later from Bernd! They blew me away! I didn't take out BEHIND for a least three weeks, and it makes a great compliment to DT in the CD changer. PS - Yes, that's me in the "band thank-you's" sec. of the insert! :):) My **FAVORITE** 6 CD's loaded and set to random play: Disc 1 - WDADU Disc 2 - IAW Disc 3 - LaTM Disc 4 - Awake Disc 5 - ACOS Disc 6 - BEHIND (Superior) As if you needed that list - geez! It's really a given... Pure Guiness? Pure Genius! - Rob "Time has a way of taking time, and loneliness is not only felt by fools. Alone I call to ease the pain; yearning to be held by you. Alone, so alone - I'm lost, consumed by the pain. Pain, pain, pain. Won't you hold me again?! You just laughed, Ha! HA! YOU B*TCH! My whole life was work built on the past; time has come when all things must pass... this good thing passed away!" -Dave Mustaine, "In My Darkest Hour"

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    Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 09:32:50 -0500 (EST) From: babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1435 Message-ID: <v01510106ad93d2a5558d@[137.238.26.12]>

    >Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 22:26:44 -0500 >From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: I saw Rush lookalike band/and Doors lookalike b >Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.4.11.-10.26.44.4462.1968@clubmet.metrobbs.com> > > >Hey > > Last night here in Kansas City, I saw a double header of two >bands called: > > 2112 and The Back Doors. > > These bands look and sound like the bands they represent. 2112 >Did a very nice job on the Rush covers. The Back Doors looked and acted >alot like "The Doors". Anyone seen these bands? A good time!

    Todd,

    Yes. These bands are fabulous. Let me tell you a good friend of mine played in a Rush tribute band in the Rochester, Poughkeepsie and Ohio areas then 2112 blew into Rochester for some killer performances and my friend said "well, I think that it's time for me to hang up the Rush tribute thing and go to work on my own stuff..."

    Now as for the Back Doors, this show is not to be missed. They are another Rochester favorite. The resemblence is uncanny...

    -BABS

    PS Todd email me when you can!

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    Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 11:08:00 -0400 From: btomko@home.glasscity.net To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Blah, Blah, Blah... Message-ID: <199604121508.LAA00991@home>

    I have never heard anyone complain about too many notes, especially young guitar players. There is such a thing, but JP isn't it. I knew this alternative thing was ruining people who would otherwise be great players, but I didn't realize the extent of the damage. (Please don't attack me, we've already had this discussion, as I recall.) As far as Ytsecon, please tell me I'm not the only one who's either too broke or too young to go on his own. Enjoy yourselves, guys, 'cause you're all GOING STRAIGHT TO HELL!!!! (I'd love to go with you). I loved that Spam haiku, whoever wrote it. That's all. Feyd

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    Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 09:38:25 -0500 (EST) From: babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Summer Concerts Message-ID: <v01510107ad93d3db9e3f@[137.238.26.12]>

    Hello everyone, it's BABS. Summer is on it's way to Western New York and some outdoor shows have been announced. Here is a triple-header that everyone should go to:

    Foreigner Reo Speedwagon Peter Frampton

    Foreigner has been a long-time favorite of mine as well as Reo. I was able to catch Peter Frampton a few years back at the Rochester Downtown Festival Tent and the man still has it. Plus I believe they are mainly going for outdoor venues - so everyone get out there, enjoy the sun (a rare occurance in WNY) and see these shows!

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    Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 09:42:29 -0500 (EST) From: babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1429 Message-ID: <v01510108ad93d59c07c2@[137.238.26.12]>

    >Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:28:37 -0700 >From: skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook) >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: Re: Green Manalishi >Message-ID: <199604101928.MAA12751@dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com> > >"Green Manilishi (spelling?) I think that James could do a fantastic >job >singing it. As for Derek - well, I heard a rumor a long time ago that >Fleetwood Mac originally did Green Manilishi, so there has to be room >for >keyboards in some capacity..." > >>>>Well, FM did a song of the same name, but, it is not the same song. > >Greg.<<< > >Yes it is. Green Manalishi was written by Peter Green when he was in >Fleetwood Mac. If you listen to the FM's Green Manalishi you will hear >that it is the same song. > >Scott Cook

    Cool. (See, I know my stuff - giggle) Now doesn't everyone agree with me that James would do a fantastic job singing it????????????????????

    -BABS

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    Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 09:38:52 -0500 From: clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E. Cleary) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Digest 1422 Message-ID: <199604121438.JAA10328@tuvok.marian.edu>

    Okay, I'm late. I'm still trying to catch up on digest. I read the article that was cut from a Queensryche "type of digest", and find it to be utter crap! Who ever this guy was, he has never seen DT on stage performing the material that keeps us in awe. He's never heard 'Silent Man', or maybe he'd prefer to ignore the fact that it ever exsited! Who does he think he is judging the sheer brilliance of the band against other talented bands. Just because they don't write about drugs and how an empire can take over the world doesn't mean that they don't mean what they write. I've found that the songs on Awake have more emotion put in them than some use in an entire decade. NO INDIVIDUAL WAS GIVIN THE SOLE RIGHT TO COMPAIR DREAM THEATER TO ANY OTHER BAND!!!!! To try to attempt this proves to me that you just have a very narrow mind!!!!!!!

    Just a thought... Corey E. Cleary

    "It can only take place when the struggle between our children has ended" -- DT

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    Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 10:27:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Space Dye Vest <jc309@columbia.edu> To: BafuJam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: YtseCon III Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960412102116.16407A-100000@namaste.cc.columbia.edu>

    Dear Jammers,

    Hey there! I forgot to mention, since I assume that everyone knew I was working on the east coast con (doh!), that the YtseCon III will be on the east coast, probably taking place in New Jersey (in October!)

    A couple of reminders...Chris Merlo (aka the Digital Man) is the guy to write to if you're planning to go the YtseCon III. He's taking everyone's names plus the number of people you plan to bring. Email him at cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu.

    Also, if you're planning on going, then it'd be a good idea to email Pat Griffin at ytsecon@vortex.cc.missouri.edu. He's starting a temporary YtseCon mailing list, which will be a good way for all of us to exchange ideas and such.

    Well, that's all for now, I'll keep everyone posted on the major developments. TTYL!

    Yours, Jeff =)

    <*> Jeff Chew <*> jc309@columbia.edu <*> Columbia University <*> <*> (212) 853-6952 <*> Beeper (917) 712-4828 <*> <*> http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309/dreamt.html <*> "There's no where to set my aim, so I'm everywhere...nothing to keep me sane, and it's all the same to you" -- Kevin Moore, Space Dye Vest

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