YTSEJAM Digest 1441
Today's Topics:
1) "I'm not ashamed to admit..."
by ytsejammer <belhai@drew.edu>
2) Clinics and Top 100 lists
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
3) Re: Dream Theater: A Band About "Nothing"
by blane@nla.gov.au
4) Aust 4 YtseCon anyone??
by blane@nla.gov.au
5) Hello, and an update (fwd)
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
6) flamebaiting
by fitipmol@ibmmail.com
7) New Superior URL
by Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
8) Re: Many Cool/Random Things
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
9) Re: Dream Theater: A Band About "Nothing"
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
10) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1440
by skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
11) Eric Johnson
by gary@tequila.demon.co.uk (Gary Cleghorn)
12) Galactic Cowboys Boston Show
by Joseph Cristina <joecr@ici.net>
13) Stuff....
by Kevin Rios <krios@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
14) Thank God!
by clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E. Cleary)
15) Superior???
by clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E. Cleary)
16) 2112
by clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E. Cleary)
17) I'm out to get you...
by clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E. Cleary)
18) Re: Re: Green Manalishi
by clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E. Cleary)
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 02:39:53 -0500 (EST)
From: ytsejammer <belhai@drew.edu>
To: YTSAYYY JAM!!! <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: "I'm not ashamed to admit..."
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.960415023652.545285322A-100000@drew.edu>
Some people on the jam seem to be "ashamed" to admit that they like bands
such as Pearl Jam, Green Day, etc. but will state with a passion that
they love DT. And in "alternative world", some people are the opposite where
they say they love PJ, and Green Day, but cannot admit that they love
Rush or classical music, for example.
I don't see why we have to "admit" that we like Pearl Jam (for example).
Has anyone ever recieved any flames from ytsejammers saying ("you suck
for likeing alternative music"). I mean, if you like something, you
should not be afraid to admit it. I like some of the above bands, but I
will not say "please don't flame me for liking these bands" or "I'm not
afraid to ADMIT that I like PJ."
My point: well, it's been stated before, but just say you like something
without the fear of what other jammers think. There's a lot of
open-minded people on the list and they can understand that a jammer can
like a band that the majority of jammers might not like. See 'ya.
..Brandon Elhai <belhai@drew.drew.edu>
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 02:41:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Clinics and Top 100 lists
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9604150223.C11442-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
> Subject: JP is coming! (DTC)
>
> Woo hoo! JP will be doing a clinic in Cleveland, well actually Akron, on
> April 24! I've already gotten tickets. I don't know if they will allow
> audio and/or video recording, but if they do, then I might. Man, I wish I
> had a Ytsejam shirt right now.
WHAT? What other US clinics is he doing? Is Mike doing any? Who's got
this info???
----> From: The One Who Helps to Set the Sun <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu> > To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com> > > I thought i'd list the contents of my cd changer:
Um, we didn't have to know, Ed. :)
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 16:43:51 +0000 From: blane@nla.gov.au To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Dream Theater: A Band About "Nothing" Message-ID: <199604150650.QAA49831@email.nla.gov.au>
>>>>: ~He's in the parking lot and he's just sitting in his car >>>>: ~It's nine o'clock but he can't get out >>>>: ~He lights a cigarette >>>>: ~and turns the music down >>>>: ~but just can't seem to shake that sound >>> >>>So he puts in some ear plugs to drown the sounds away. >>>And he waits in the parking lot for yet another day. >>>And as he waits the clouds draw pictures of his pain. >>>And then he silently prays for the rain. >>>But his life sucks and he wants to die. >>>And he cries and kisses the world goodbye. >>> >>>See, I can write their meaningless crap!
Not much has to be said about tools like this guy. I can actually relate quite well to that little snippet from 6:00. Every morning before work I sit in the car in the parking lot a work and have my last ciggy with the window down, so as not to draw attention from me bosses. And every morning I can never get the last song I listened to outa by head, always a DT or Fates song. Shit this morning it was Status Seeker and it 4:30pm and its still in my head, lucky me.
Anyway to get to the point, if this tool can't relate to a song or doesn't like it he doesn't have to listen to it. Nor does he have to bag it out. Basically his above copy/pasted lyrics don't mean jack and suck. I wish my luck on selling more albums the DT with his wild, meaning lyrics.
Brett: ytse-oz
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 16:54:19 +0000 From: blane@nla.gov.au To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Aust 4 YtseCon anyone?? Message-ID: <199604150701.RAA22553@email.nla.gov.au>
Jammers,
Just wondering if any australia dudes where headin to the Con? I am thinking about going and wouldn't mind some travellin buddies. So if any oz-jammers out there are even slightly keen, drop me an email.
Brett: ytse-oz
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 02:58:34 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Hello, and an update (fwd) Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9604150248.E11442-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
Here's a message forwarded to me from Andy from Delaware. It's a letter he got from Chris Buzby, the now-defunct echolyn's former keyboard player. It should answer a lot of those unanswered questions that we echolyn fans have. Happy reading!
-D
---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 02:48:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Andy <ytsejam@UDel.Edu> To: cmerlo@uvm-gen.emba.uvm.edu Subject: Hello, and an update (fwd)
---------- Forwarded message ---------- To: ytsejam@udel.edu Subject: Hello, and an update
Hello Andy
Thanks for your reply. It's great to hear from you and to know there is support for my decision to leave echolyn and pursue other musical interests. I'm very eager for people to hear my new material, because I feel it only takes what echolyn was doing and pushes it to the next level musically.
Cutting the ties of echolyn and moving on with my career in music was not the easiest decision, but I felt that in order to successfully fulfill my musical desires I had take my music elsewhere. It was really just one of those decisions that I never planned to make, but the day finally came when it really was the only choice in order for me to continue pursuing my musical goals and dreams in a positive, forward-moving fashion.
I've already put together a home studio (2 Alesis ADAT's; a Mackie 24x8 mixing console; studio monitors; some high-end microphones; mix-down equipment; a drum kit; my keyboard rig; etc) in my house, and I have a list of people who I will be working with to record my stuff...with the eventual goal of a solo-release (dare I say by next fall?!?)...we'll see. I'm currently working with a great guitarist and bassist, as well as 2 vocalists (1 male, 1 female)...and yes, I might even sing some leads on my new material. We already have 5 tunes pretty much completed, and a folder of 15-20 more still to work on. I'm sure all this news comes as quite a surprise, but I firmly believe that everything happens for a reason, and the same goes for this situation.
Ray, Paul and Brett are continuing to write and work together. After hearing 4 of their new tunes it is evident to me that they are are taking quite a different musical approach then what I am planning to do. (Not that that is a bad thing, I can just honestly say I would not enjoy (or be musically satisfied) being a part of what they are writing.) I am going to continue pursuing my jazz/rock/fusion and classical musical leanings, but my solo stuff will incorporate all of those different styles freely, just as echolyn used to. I'll be playing with many new musicians on it, and at this point in time it looks like Paul and Tom might also both be a part of it. So there's the state of the union for now.
As for a final echolyn release...at this point we've been told by Sony that we are officially finished with them contractually (although we've yet to see anything in writing). We just finished mixing our final album last night. We're planning for our own release of an album to our fans of everything we did musically that never made it on any of our 4 albums. We have 2 songs that never made it on "as the world" ('Patchwork' and 'Another Day'), 3 new songs we wrote together since "as the world" ('The Currents of Me', '100 Diversions', and 'This Time Alone'), the Genesis tribute track "When the Sour Turns to Sweet" that never made it on the Magna Carta album (thanks again Sony!), an acoustic version of 'Meaning and the Moment', and 2 live tracks from ProgDay '95 ('A Little Nonsense' and 'As the World'). We are hoping to release this cd in late March. It will serve as a fitting end to echolyn and a final thank you to you, our fans, for the loyal and undying support. It will also serve as a calling card for each of our future projects...setting the stage for future releases from the different members.
I hope this has answered any lingering questions you might have. Please feel free to drop me a line anytime. I would be glad to chat via e-mail. In the meantime, I'll be writing and recording and keeping everyone informed as to a release date, when the time comes. Please pass this info on to any other echolyn fans you know...I promise my solo release will continue pushing the musical boundries, while opening up a whole new world of music to 'stretch' your ears to.
Stay in touch, Chris Buzby
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 03:01:25 EDT From: fitipmol@ibmmail.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: flamebaiting Message-ID: <199604150701.AAA14169@mindcrime.ax.com>
--- Saapunut 03.MAPE 90-4694432 15-04-96 10.02 -> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBM IMX
Hola, friends.
About forwarding messages from other newsgroups where someone is putting DT down or like in that recent one, deliberately trying to insult us jammers, I say "screw it".
It's a sure thing that every once in a while we find someone who's flamebaiting or trying to start a fight w/ anyone within reach. Let's just leave them to find their flame wars elsewhere.
Everyone's entitled to their opinion or like in this particular case, ignorant attitude. We don't have to start mailbombing his inbox or anything. We're above that. Let's leave the poor dork alone.
Other thing. Why is it that I'm not getting answers to my recent sweepstakes question. I've just gotten a few and they were far off the target. Now, I'm asking again:
What is the DT connection in a song called
GALAXY 500 ?????
The ones who get their answers right, qualify to sweepstakes, and the winner will receive some pretty rare DT stuff.
_Mape_
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 09:30:16 +0200 From: Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de> To: ytsejam@ax.com, metropolis@arastar.com Subject: New Superior URL Message-ID: <9604150730.AA18731@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
Hi!
Ok, I'd just like to announce the new Superior-URL at http://gaia.owl.de/~fine/superior.html
You can find there all about the band Superior and the CD 'behind' ((new) Sound-bytes, official-info, lyrics, pictures, ...)
I'd like to thank Fine for all she has done for us. This page is GREAT!
Again all the other Superior-Pages: http://www.rmi.de/~marvin/superior.html http://www.why.net/users/jskewes/jsmusic.html http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~goebel/sup.html http://info.rpkk.fi/opsivut/y95b/mikko.kalermo
And the reviews: http://pitel_lnx.ibk.fnt.hvu.nl/~martijn/Welcome.html http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mbacko1/munsign.html
For ordering-infos contact: jskewes@why.net (USA, Canada) basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de (Rest of the world, infos about the band...)
Sorry for NDTC.
Greetings to all IRC-jammers and LisaHeld. This session was fun! :)
Bye.
Bernd.
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 96 3:33:21 EDT From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Many Cool/Random Things Message-ID: <9604150733.AA21592@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
I got a problem. How come I don't have a dreamt.org account? What are the requirements? Do you have to be cool? do you have to have a tattoo. A dash in your name? 20/20 vision? What's the deal with you dreamt.org people anyway? and why am I not on the list for ytsecon? Am I really that detested on the Jam? What's people's gripe with me, anyway? Am I paranoid? Am I up way too late?> 3:30 a.m.? Maybe I will get on IRC now. Maybe I will shut up and let the Jam roll on. Maybe I will ...
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 96 3:38:18 EDT From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Dream Theater: A Band About "Nothing" Message-ID: <9604150738.AA12281@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Well, the more I read this waste of bandwidth from ignorant people who really don't have a clue, the more I wish that the government would step in and censor total idiots.
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 00:38:24 -0700 From: skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1440 Message-ID: <199604150738.AAA03690@dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com>
>>I thought i'd list the contents of my cd changer:
>>Current discs in my 100 disc changer:
[BIG snip]
At first I thought this was gonna be a joke!
Well, I Thought I'd list the contents of my 925 LP's and 492 CD's.
Just Kidding!
Scott Cook
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 96 09:06:22 GMT From: gary@tequila.demon.co.uk (Gary Cleghorn) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Eric Johnson Message-ID: <78_OASIS_@tequila.demon.co.uk>
>> Mentioning the five discs he listened to that day, Steve B mentioned Eric >> Johnson. Does anyone know when his new disc is to be released? My friends and >> I have been waiting about 5 years since we saw him on the "Musicom" tour and >> he played 3 new songs that night. Finally gave up waiting but heard something >> awhile back about it being released sometime very soon. Any info? Apoligise > >his new cd is supposed to be coming out this month. >the title of the cd is " Longpath Meadow ", and there are 10 tracks on it.
This is great news, i've been waiting for this since i read an interveiw in 1993 when Eric said that his new album was due out in the next six months. Looks like his perfectionism had something to do with the delay (after all it took three attempts with Ah Via Musicom before he was happy)
I first heard Musicom in 1990 when i was on holiday in Florida and was blown away as soon as i heard it.
Does anyone know if there are any bootleg CD's by EJ cos i've never seen him play live (living in the uk is not the best place to live if you want to see people like EJ).
__
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 07:17:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Joseph Cristina <joecr@ici.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Galactic Cowboys Boston Show Message-ID: <199604151117.HAA16185@kirk.ici.net>
For those of you in the Boston Area.
The Galactic Cowboys are playing at The Rat on April 20th.
Joe joecr@ici.net
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 10:08:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Kevin Rios <krios@suffolk.lib.ny.us> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Stuff.... Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.92.960415095936.28693A-100000@scls1>
Hey, I don't know if the first post I made went through so here it goes again. I was looking through the local rag (Good Times, all you LI jammers know this worthless piece of trash!) and in the classifieds section under "Instruction" found this:
Dream Theater Keyboardist Sherinian accepting limited keyboard and guitar students. Call Derek at .......
Pretty cool huh! Just thought I'd share that with you.
Later, Kevin
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 10:11:05 -0500 From: clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E. Cleary) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Thank God! Message-ID: <199604151511.KAA15645@tuvok.marian.edu>
>>Sorry, Bafu. O.K. I am the only obnoxious sarcastic person on the jam. The >>undisputed heavyweight champion. Any challengers?
>Me : ) I reek of cynisism and sarcasm, I just dont post much.
>I dont get inspired much actually...Thats what I should say. Ho hum, the >life of a bored, uninspired jammer. Go take a long walk off a short pier.
>Jon
Aren't we all glad about that! Corey E. Cleary
"It can only take place when the struggle between our children has ended" -- DT
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 10:20:27 -0500 From: clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E. Cleary) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Superior??? Message-ID: <199604151520.KAA15710@tuvok.marian.edu>
I just read that there is a Superior leg... answers about this would be helpful. Thanks, Corey E. Cleary
"It can only take place when the struggle between our children has ended" -- DT
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 10:28:13 -0500 From: clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E. Cleary) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: 2112 Message-ID: <199604151528.KAA15759@tuvok.marian.edu>
>Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 22:26:44 -0500 >From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: I saw Rush lookalike band/and Doors lookalike b >Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.4.11.-10.26.44.4462.1968@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
>Hey
> Last night here in Kansas City, I saw a double header of two >bands called:
> 2112 and The Back Doors.
> These bands look and sound like the bands they represent. 2112 >Did a very nice job on the Rush covers. The Back Doors looked and acted >alot like "The Doors". Anyone seen these bands? A good time!
> Todd > market@clubmet.com
I've seen 2112, they are really great! (I'm still behind on jams.:)) Corey E. Cleary
"It can only take place when the struggle between our children has ended" -- DT
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 10:34:02 -0500 From: clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E. Cleary) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: I'm out to get you... Message-ID: <199604151534.KAA15774@tuvok.marian.edu>
>Date: Fri, 12 Apr 96 0:10:30 EDT >From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: Re: 'Most Frequent Poster'-recount... (NDTC) >Message-ID: <9604120410.AA13640@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
>Wow. I am number 3? Well, look out response@ipmail, or whatever your mail >address is. You are going down. Down, I tell you. You only get one per jam. I >can post five, or six times. Fuck off. You are done. Slip down to number 3, >you bastard!!!!!!!!! Damon is coming for ya.
I'm out to get all of you!!!!! (This is getting way out of hand!:) Corey E. Cleary
"It can only take place when the struggle between our children has ended" -- DT
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Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 10:55:44 -0500 From: clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E. Cleary) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Re: Green Manalishi Message-ID: <199604151555.KAA15854@tuvok.marian.edu>
>Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 12:28:37 -0700 >From: skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook) >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: Re: Green Manalishi >Message-ID: <199604101928.MAA12751@dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com> > >"Green Manilishi (spelling?) I think that James could do a fantastic >job >singing it. As for Derek - well, I heard a rumor a long time ago that >Fleetwood Mac originally did Green Manilishi, so there has to be room >for >keyboards in some capacity..." > >>>>Well, FM did a song of the same name, but, it is not the same song. > >Greg.<<< > >Yes it is. Green Manalishi was written by Peter Green when he was in >Fleetwood Mac. If you listen to the FM's Green Manalishi you will hear >that it is the same song. > >Scott Cook
>Cool. (See, I know my stuff - giggle) Now doesn't everyone agree with me >that James would do a fantastic job singing it????????????????????
>-BABS
BABA, I think your right, but I think that he would do a better job on Victim of Changes. Just a thought.:) Corey E. Cleary
"It can only take place when the struggle between our children has ended" -- DT
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