YTSEJAM Digest 1446
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/17/96 - 08:45:32" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) GALAXY 500
by fitipmol@ibmmail.com
3) cd connection/Internet cd shopping
by "Siegfried Hanisch" <siegfried.hanisch@ibm.net>
4) Sorry everyone!
by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
5) Hey
by kurt@fgallery.com
6) Re: Progressive Vocalists..
by borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
7) Lower vocal range...
by jgreene@acs.bu.edu
8) Superior Newsletter
by Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
9) Satch! (NDTC)
by rmwestbr@aec1.apgea.army.mil
10) No DT? Look again!
by psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan)
11) Re: Narrow Minded Idiot..
by Adam Pye <alpine@negia.net>
12) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1445
by subtlerage@gnn.com (Andrew Miller)
13) When Dream And Day Unite web site
by Michael Jones <felix@maui.netwave.net>
14) I am me...
by clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E. Cleary)
15) blah..
by al682@osfn.rhilinet.gov (Dan Abosso)
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1445
by Ed Reed <ereed@comp.uark.edu>
17) Re: Gene Simmons...
by Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu>
18) Ytse Beach Week.../6:00/ Mike Bahr
by clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E. Cleary)
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 03:44:17 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/17/96 - 08:45:32" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199604170743.AAA15277@mindcrime.ax.com>
The mail item that you sent at 07:44:09 GMT on 17 Apr 1996 has been delivered.
However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a
format that is acceptable to the recipient, FITIPMOL at IBMMAIL.
Information beyond column 79 in the mail item will have been wrapped.
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 04:49:04 EDT
From: fitipmol@ibmmail.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: GALAXY 500
Message-ID: <199604170848.BAA18370@mindcrime.ax.com>
--- Saapunut 03.MAPE 90-4694432 17-04-96 11.50
-> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBM IMX
Yo folks.
The recent trivia has progressed to the sweepstakes stage.
I received four correct answers to my question, which was:
WHAT'S THE DT CONNECTION IN A SONG CALLED "GALAXY 500" ?
..and the four qualified ones were:
Sean T.Gill, Kevin Madden, Steve Lehrfeld and Jeff Hayes.
...and the winner is.....(randomizing.......) my computer says
the winner is....Sean T. Gill!
Congrats, man! Email me your smail add, and you'll get the
prize!
The right answer is that GALAXY 500 is an instrumental by
Brad Gillis. Derek Sherinian has co-written the song and
plays the keyboards in it. The song can be found on "Guitar
for Practicing Musicians" vol 2.
_Mape_
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 96 11:00:46 +0100
From: "Siegfried Hanisch" <siegfried.hanisch@ibm.net>
To: "ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: cd connection/Internet cd shopping
Message-ID: <199604170906.JAA120652@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net>
>To the guy asking about CD CONNECTION...
>
>I used the American version of it. "Telnet cdconnection.com" I got my cd's
>very quickly and was very impressed with the service. They even let you check
>the status of your order while it's being shipped to you, all on-line!
>
>I guess the Germany outlet of that company deals with the harder to find
>imports. I haven't dealt with that aspect of them, but I assume the company's
>standards probably would be worldwide, yes/no?
Is there really a German outlet of cdconnection.com? I always use the US
version, although I live in Europe (Vienna, Austria). Does anyone know
of Internet CD shops in Europe?
Greetings # They shoot without shame
Siegfried Hanisch # In the name of a piece of dirt
=====================================# For a change of accent
siegfried.hanisch@ibm.net # Or the colour of your shirt
ssaver@ibm.net (ScreenSaver support) # Better the pride that resides
=====================================# In a citizen of the world
http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e8925811/ # Than the pride that divides
PGP public key available # Team OS/2 # When a colourful rag is unfurled RUSH
Support the Blue Ribbon Campaign for Online Free Speech! http://www.eff.org/blueribbon.html
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 03:00:13 -0700 (MST)
From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Sorry everyone!
Message-ID: <199604171000.DAA13271@bud.indirect.com>
I went and let my mailbox get ahead of me again, and there's tons
of messages I still have to get to. I'll try and answer you ASAP, sorry
for the delay. Take care everyone.... there's a new CD update on Jeff's page.
MTFBWY! Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com/mikebahr@dreamt.org
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 06:54:20 -0400
From: kurt@fgallery.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hey
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.4.17.6.54.20.2916992174.275129@bbs.fgallery.com>
Hey anyone willing to tape me a demo version of acos..im dying to hear
it and i havent been able to order any of those cd's that have it..so if
anyone is willing to tape me a copy of the demo version of ACOS ill be
really greatful..ill even pay a little money... thanc
email me--> kurt@fgallery.com
kurt@dreamt.org
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 12:55:09 +0100
From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Progressive Vocalists..
Message-ID: <9604171155.AA03892@lively.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
Adam wrote:
> Are there any progressive type bands featuring vocalists with lower
> voices? I'm not looking for growling thrash stuff, just talented guys with
> a lower range.
Paradise Lost.
Not exactly prog, but you'll like 'em.
Graham B.
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 07:59:30 -0400
From: jgreene@acs.bu.edu
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Lower vocal range...
Message-ID: <199604171159.HAA105044@acs2.bu.edu>
ummm... The Savatage lead is pretty low, at least lower than JL. They have
some awsome cd's too.
jg
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 14:22:05 +0200
From: Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
To: ytsejam@ax.com, metropolis@arastar.com
Subject: Superior Newsletter
Message-ID: <9604171222.AA17857@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
Hi my ytsejamming friends!
Today I'd like to ask you a simple question:
Mike Backof brought me to the idea to build up a SUPERIOR-Newsletter.
I'd like to know now, if there are any persons who would be
interested in such a thing.
I'd send a newsletter to the persons who want it every month or
so (depending on the number of news that are around).
In there will be the latest things that happened with the
band SUPERIOR and our music. At first,
there won't be BIG things in it but maybe, when the deals are
signed, there will be more.
So, is there any interest??
Please email me privately at basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de
Sorry for NDTC.
LONG LIVE IRC!!! :)
Bye.
Bernd.
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Date: 17 Apr 96 08:44 EST
From: rmwestbr@aec1.apgea.army.mil
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Satch! (NDTC)
Message-ID: <9604170844.aa15410@aec1.apgea.army.mil>
Greetings fellow 'jammers!
If anyone gets the chance to see Joe Satriani on this tour, DO IT!!!
I was at Hammerjack's here in Baltimore last night. The show was
incredible! Even with Joe's shaved head! I don't think I need to extol
Joe's virtuosity to many here, but he's amazing live. Not to mention
Jonathan Mover and Stu Hamm (whose bass solo completely blew me away--and
I'm a guitar player!)
R.W
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 09:54:15 -0400
From: psull@ici.net (Pat Sullivan)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: No DT? Look again!
Message-ID: <199604171353.JAA07586@kirk.ici.net>
>Yet another person not carrying DREAM THEATER every where. WHAT'S WRONG
>WITH YOU?????????? Are you sacreligious???
>>Contents of the Disk bag for the car;
>>1) The dance of Eternity
Err...Dance of Eternity is a DT bootleg, so I guess there's NOTHING wrong
with him.
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> Are there any progressive type bands featuring vocalists with lower
>voices? I'm not looking for growling thrash stuff, just talented guys with
>a lower range. I'm fond of the sopranos like LeBrie and the others, but am
>looking for a change of place... Thanks...
Ya mean like Type O Negative? I think that would qualify, although that may
be lower than you were looking to go. :)
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___<psull@ici.net>__________________________________________________________
__________
"You could probably chop off a man's head three times a day for twenty years
and he'd
grow used to it, and cry like a baby if you stopped"
________________________ Robert Sheckley/"Immortality,
Inc."__________________________
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 10:53:23 -0400
From: Adam Pye <alpine@negia.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Narrow Minded Idiot..
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960417145323.0069baa0@negia.net>
>And this is what I'm saying:
>
>Okay. Fine. People are unfair to DT. Is it worth getting pissed
>about? Sometimes, yeah. I don't like narrowmindedness either.
>
>What is this statement about country and rap? Is this person implying
>that people who like country and/or rap don't know anything about music?
>Steve Morse likes country and Mike Portnoy likes rap. They must not know
>anything about music!
>
>Someone's musical taste has nothing to do with how much they know about
>music. People who like DT, Qeensryche, Yes, Rush, etc don't have to know
>anything about music either. Your friend likes country and slams DT.
>You like DT and you slam country music. Who's the narrowminded idiot now?
You're exactly right about someone's musical tastes not having
anything to do with their musical knowledge. However, if you'd go back and
actually read the message you'd realize that I'm talking about two specific
people. And I used the phrase "two particular friends." No generalizations
appeared in that message except for the statement that many people consider
what's on MTV to be the be-all-end-all of music and anything that differs
from the MTV formula isn't worth listening to. That's IMO, as everything we
type is as I'm sure you know, but I'd think it's fairly close to a fact. I
do think, however, that rap has extrodinarily little to offer to those that
don't like repetitive, boomy bass and abrasive, repetitive lyrics. I also
agree that those who like QR, DT, etc dont' _have_ to know anything about
music, but I'd wager that the great majority knows the difference between a
riff and a lick, a tom and a snare, etc. Also, thanks for implying I'm a
"narrow minded idiot." Name calling is so mature. Jeeze... Try not to do
that; it makes you look like a fool. Take care...
Adam Pye
- alpine@negia.net
- http://www.negia.net/~alpine
- IZZC #1426
- Ask for the bootlist!
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 09:56:25
From: subtlerage@gnn.com (Andrew Miller)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1445
Message-ID: <199604171453.KAA05861@mail-e2b-service.gnn.com>
> Are there any progressive type bands featuring vocalists with
lower
>voices? I'm not looking for growling thrash stuff, just talented guys
with
>a lower range. I'm fond of the sopranos like LeBrie and the others, but
am
>looking for a change of place... Thanks...
>
check out Braindance. their 'fear itself' cd is excellent. the singer has
a deep voice; not growling, just real deep. but he's got a hell of a
range because he can sing high as well. check them out.
>Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 02:54:14 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Andrew Miller <andym@wicked.stigmata.org>
jeez, just how many of us are there???????
Andrew Miller----------------------------------------------SubtleRage
SubtleRage@gnn.com---------millera@chop.isca.uiowa.edu
http://members.gnn.com/subtlerage/index.html
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 07:56:18 -0500 (CDT)
From: Michael Jones <felix@maui.netwave.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: When Dream And Day Unite web site
Message-ID: <199604171256.HAA22097@maui.netwave.net>
Hello! It's been awhile since I've been on this list. I've switced
jobs twice and moved to a different state since I was last on this list
almost a year ago...
But anyways, I have finally found a new site to bring When Dream And
Web Unite back up (my Dream Theater web pages). The new site is
http://www.netwave.net/~felix/dt/dt.html. For those with pointers to
my old one (I noticed there are still many out there), please update
them to this new address. The web pages hadn't been updated for the
past year, so some of the information is lacking the new material (like
the discography), but I will be updating all of that in the next couple
weeks.
Dream on!
-- Mike Jones felix@maui.netwave.net------------------------------
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 10:25:20 -0500 From: clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E. Cleary) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: I am me... Message-ID: <199604171525.KAA24619@tuvok.marian.edu>
>Are Corey E. Cleary and RipZero the same person? What was with that one >email? It was Rip's message from the previous Jam, but with Corey's >address. Hmm...
bzzzzzt. Times up. The answer you've given is incorrect, Corey E Cleary is a seperate person that was reposting for those who had not seen... Corey E. Cleary
Somewhere in the promises, I've fallen... Deep beneath the light.
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 11:17:10 -0400 From: al682@osfn.rhilinet.gov (Dan Abosso) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: blah.. Message-ID: <199604171517.AA08627@osfn.rhilinet.gov>
Well, it seems like my post was lost... luckily, I saved my post to disk.. heh.. now suffer... <inserting post> -- Hello, With regards to certain threads pertaining to "has listening to DT soured our taste for less 'sophisticated' music?" ... My personal response to that question is "yes"... Prior to becoming a DT fan, I would listen to such groups as GN'R and RATM (how's that for mainstream? heh).. However, when I started getting into DT, such simpler groups.. even Pink Floyd (!), that I had listened to for years.. simply just didn't have as much.. "energy".. as it seemed they did before DT.. When I forced myself to put on those non-DT albums I have, I noticed I began looking for the technical intracacies that DT is known for.. and I found very little, if any, satisfying qualities of the bands when I compared them to DT.. I now find myself spending the little money I get (I'm 15 and have no job.. heh) on DT stuff and other "heavy" groups like Marillion.. Finally, I have found a genre of music that satisfies me... As I continue to ramble on.. I know I always ask about Dominici.. but I am intrigued by this man.. (gee, that sounded good..) I find that more often than not, I always have WDADU in the disc changer.. (btw - got my "One Way" copy of WDADU today.. cheap bastards didn't even put the lyrics in)... Anyways, does anyone know if there other recordings with him on it? I mean, other albums by other bands with him as the vocalist? Fellow Ytsejammers, enlighten me with your knowledge! (heh) Well.. now that I have wasted your time, I will end it here... The YtseLamer, Dan (btw - what's the status of IRC.DREAMT.ORG? I get ping timeouts all the time..) --
-- I'm witness to redemption heard you speak but never listened Can you rid me of my secrets? Deliver us from Darkness? - DT
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 10:16:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Ed Reed <ereed@comp.uark.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1445 Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960417095731.7905A-100000@comp.uark.edu>
> From: Elliott Kim <ekim01@fiu.edu> > > Okay. Fine. People are unfair to DT. Is it worth getting pissed > about? Sometimes, yeah. I don't like narrowmindedness either.
Just look at it this way: Right now DT fans are a sorta elite, really cool bunch of people. If all these narrowminded people suddenly converted, you might just find yourself with people like in the Queensryche Usenet group... the kind of person that can respect Queensryche as one of the greatest bands of all time, yet incessantly bash DT for things like their lyrics and self-indulgence. Do we really want every schmuck on the street wearing a DT shirt?
> What is this statement about country and rap? Is this person implying > that people who like country and/or rap don't know anything about music? > Steve Morse likes country and Mike Portnoy likes rap. They must not know > anything about music! > > Someone's musical taste has nothing to do with how much they know about > music. People who like DT, Qeensryche, Yes, Rush, etc don't have to know > anything about music either. Your friend likes country and slams DT. > You like DT and you slam country music. Who's the narrowminded idiot now?
Well said, E-man... very valid points. I still think *you* are a goober for liking country, but you'd probably make fun of some of my musical tastes. As long as we're all willing to admit that music is a personal thing, and what inspires one person to greatness may make another hurl his praises to the porcelain goddess.
> From: Chad <cak6981@omega.uta.edu> > > To X: You rock. > Ray
*Woo-hoo!* I rock...
I'll rock even more if we can get some details sorted out and make it to da Con, huh Ray? :)
DrX -- aka Death
/-------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | You've come to see the Doctor, cause I'll show you the cure. | | I'm gonna take away the questions, yeah I'm gonna make you sure. | I========Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime===============================I | | ereed@comp.uark.edu | | I'm the new messiah, Death Angel with a gun. | drx@reich.uark.edu | | Dangerous in my silence, deadly to my cause. | ehr@engr.uark.edu | \-------------------------------------------------------------------------/
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 08:31:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Younis Youssef Hilal <yhilal@uclink.berkeley.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Gene Simmons... Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9604170830.B2564-0100000@uclink.berkeley.edu>
> To all Ytsejammers that knew who said the Bump on my ass joke... I COMMEND YOU! > You have once again proven to me that you are the most diverse individuals > I've ever known. I LOVE YOU MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 > Forget it, man!! You're not getting my Bud Light!!!!
(Sorry , couldn't resist:))
Younis Hilal
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 11:28:37 -0500 From: clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E. Cleary) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ytse Beach Week.../6:00/ Mike Bahr Message-ID: <199604171628.LAA24938@tuvok.marian.edu>
>I have 3 words: Ytse Beach Week. Who's up for it? >
This sounds way too cool.
As for 6:00, I've listened to the song more times than humanity will allow me to count, and I've found the sound to be the voice of a being that is hinted to be God, but not said to be. I could be way off, but I've read all the lyrics from the album... All of them do this hinting about "God" which really surprizes me. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
If Mike Bahr is reading, I have a question to ask. Please e-mail me.
> >Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 13:09:02 -0700 >From: ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero ) >To: Ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: uhh, a post >Message-ID: <199604162009.NAA25813@dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com> > >uhhhh... >skadz said a jam would come out in few hours but we needed more posts so i am >posting this to help bring a jam. > ok. > ~Rip >
Your way was awesome, but my way is readable.
>Someone's musical taste has nothing to do with how much they know about >music. People who like DT, Qeensryche, Yes, Rush, etc don't have to know >anything about music either. Your friend likes country and slams DT. >You like DT and you slam country music. Who's the narrowminded idiot now? >
This has to be one of the most intelligent comments made yet. I listent to classical, contry, pop, rap, r&b, soft rock, hard rock, alternative, metal, progressive metal, thrash metal, techno, speed metal, and the list still continues. Is this saying that I'm some psychomusicmaniac??
I NEED A dreamt.org ACCOUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (he begins to loose breath as he falls to the ground dying of lack of dreamt.org account). Corey E. Cleary
Somewhere in the promises, I've fallen... Deep beneath the light. - C. E. Cleary
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