YTSEJAM Digest 1447
Today's Topics:
1) Enough!
by Jeffrey Cline <jcline@quapaw.astate.edu>
2) stuff
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
3) WTF...
by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
4) Re: Progressive Vocalists...
by schew@tis.com
5) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1445
by Zamster <zamster@apple.com>
6) Derek and Fostex
by bflynn@sps.edu (Ben Flynn)
7) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/17/96 - 18:29:11" <response@ibmmail.com>
8) Re: No DT??
by aar1@cornell.edu (Alexis A. Ramos)
9) dt on radio
by richard@capitale.qc.ca (Richard James)
10) Shades of dream consciousness...
by rkasper@cclink.aus.etn.com
11) Fwd: KISS USA TOUR DATES (fwd)
by skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook)
12) YtseCon III Attendees List
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
13) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1445
by Andrew Costa <acos0206@uriacc.uri.edu>
14) Majesty mouse pointer
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 10:42:39 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jeffrey Cline <jcline@quapaw.astate.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Enough!
Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.960417103904.17672A-100000@quapaw.astate.edu>
What's the deal with the people who put up several posts on one Ytsejam?
Why not just say all you need to at once instead of mailing in several
times. It get's annoying after a while.
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 12:22:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: stuff
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9604171218.I27998-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E. Cleary)
> Subject: No DT??
>
> >Contents of the Disk bag for the car;
> >1) The dance of Eternity
>
> Yet another person not carrying DREAM THEATER every where. WHAT'S WRONG
> WITH YOU?????????? Are you sacreligious???
Dude, chill. 1) TDoE is a DT boot. 2) There's nothing wrong with not
listening to DT every waking moment of the day. They're a BAND.
(Although I noticed that Gandalf didn't have any Rush with him. But I
digress. :) 3) What are you, DreamNDay's cousin or something?
----> From: FDDC08F@prodigy.com (MR FRANK A CLARK) > Subject: ASDF > > Subscribe YTSEJAM Frank Clark
Someone is still taking care of these, right?
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> From: Elliott Kim <ekim01@fiu.edu> > Subject: A Narrow Mind Is A Wonderful Thing To Waste > > Someone's musical taste has nothing to do with how much they know about > music. People who like DT, Qeensryche, Yes, Rush, etc don't have to know > anything about music either. Your friend likes country and slams DT. > You like DT and you slam country music. Who's the narrowminded idiot now?
Couldn't have said it any better, E-Man.
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> From: FNGX01A@prodigy.com (MR JOHN CAHILLJR) > Subject: Power Windows Rush cover band > > Hey boys and girls! > This Saturday night on Long Island the Rush tribute band 'Power > Windows " will be performing at New York avenue in Huntington Long
Ugh. Once again, I ask myself why the hell I came to Vermont, this cold-ass pit of culturelessness. Hey, I hear that RJ's is once again going to serve warm, overpriced beer and play house music tonight! Any takers? :(
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> From: Andrew Miller <andym@wicked.stigmata.org> > Subject: Test! > > This is a test. But did I also mention it's my first ever post on the > JAM. Thanks, Skadz. You really do admire your work. Later.
It's about time! :)
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> From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/17/96 - 08:20:05" <response@ibmmail.com> > Subject: Mail Item Format Warning > > The mail item that you sent at 07:18:43 GMT on 17 Apr 1996 has been delivered. > > However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a > format that is acceptable to the recipient, FITIPMOL at IBMMAIL. > Information beyond column 79 in the mail item will have been wrapped. > > ------------------------------ > > End of YTSEJAM Digest 1445 > **************************
Oh, the irony!
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 11:48:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu> To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: WTF... Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960417114317.1530A-100000@indy17.gclab.missouri.edu>
Corey E. Cleary babbled: >Yet another person not carrying DREAM THEATER every where. WHAT'S WRONG >WITH YOU?????????? Are you sacreligious???
and then in his next post said:
[snip] >there are still those individuals that will believe one kind of music to >be superior... Their loss.
Why does he concider it wrong to think one band is superior (hi Bernd :), and say that it's sacreligious not to carry DT everywhere?
The next sentance it true. Think The previous sentance was false. about it.
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 13:46:26 -0400 (EDT) From: schew@tis.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: alpine@negia.net Subject: Re: Progressive Vocalists... Message-ID: <2089.9604171746@ragnarok.tis.com>
>Subject: Progressive Vocalists.. > > Are there any progressive type bands featuring vocalists with lower >voices? I'm not looking for growling thrash stuff, just talented guys with >a lower range. I'm fond of the sopranos like LeBrie and the others, but am >looking for a change of place... Thanks... > I'm also interested in learning of prog bands with talented vocalists who have a range in the lower octaves. Going through my list of CDs, here are some of the bands who's vocalists have relatively low voices.
Ancient Vision -- I really like the vocalist for this band. He's got a very strong voice and he uses it well. Get "The Vision", not their newer album which is rather boring.
Asia -- John Wetton has a pretty low voice and I like his style. He also sang for U.K. and King Crimson.
Braindance -- The vocalist has a low voice, but he sings in a more atmospheric way rather than lyrical. "Fear Itself" is a good prog album.
Circus -- One of my favorite prog bands. The vocalist is superb with a strong vocal presence.
Leonard Cohen -- He's not prog at all, but he's got an extremely low voice. :)
Echolyn -- The guys from Echolyn sing in a large range. A lot of the harmonies are higher pitched, but the solo singing tends to be lower.
Golden Earring -- The main singer on "Moontan" tends to sing in a lower voice. A superb, often overlooked, prog album. Their other albums are less prog.
Peter Hammill and Van Der Graaf Generator -- This guy has a very strong voice and sings in a low pitch. His vocals and music can be pretty strange. I tend to like his music with Van Der Graaf Generator better than his solo music.
Jethro Tull -- Ian Anderson is one of my favorite singers and he's got a low voice. I especially love his style on their older albums. Check out "Aqualung", "Thick as a Brick", "Minstrel in the Gallery" or perhaps "Warchild". Great music and great vocals.
Greg Lake -- Sang for King Crimson (the early years) and ELP.
Marillion -- Fish's vocals can often be pretty low. I just really enjoy his style and feel he has a very powerful voice. Check out "Misplaced Childhood" or "Clutching at Straws". The new Marillion singer has a much higher pitched voice.
Metamorfosi -- This guy's voice is great. The vocals are all in Italian. I wasn't sure I would like Italian vocals, but I've come to love them. Many of the Italian vocalists seem to have very powerful voices. "Inferno" is a great album.
Museo Rosembach -- Another great Italian singer with low vocals. "Zarathustra" is a great prog album.
The Noisy Room -- The singer from TNR has a voice reminiscent of Peter Hammill, quite low and sometimes aggressive. "The Chessboard" is a good album.
Superior -- The vocalist for this band has a gruff, low voice and uses it very well. Their "Behind" album is superb, with heavy music and aggressive vocals. It seems that the weakness of a lot of new prog bands is the vocalist, but Superior has overcome that entirely.
Il Trono Dei Ricordi -- This band has English vocals and good music. The vocalist has a smooth, strong voice.
Yes -- Jon Anderson... (just kidding!) ;-)
Frank Zappa -- He has a low voice but some pretty weird music.
If anyone is having trouble finding these CDs, let me know and I can make a compilation tape or something and arrange a tape trade. Does anyone else have suggestions for prog bands with low vocals?
Steve
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 96 10:24:09 -0700 From: Zamster <zamster@apple.com> To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1445 Message-ID: <199604171722.KAA10414@federal-excess.apple.com>
>From: FDDC08F@prodigy.com (MR FRANK A CLARK) >To: YTSEJAM@ax.com >Subject: ASDF >Message-ID: <097.06179935.FDDC08F@prodigy.com> > >-- [ From: Frank Clark * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- > >Subscribe YTSEJAM Frank Clark
Frank - try sending this message to /ytsejam-request@ax.com/ rather than to /ytsejam@ax.com/ - what you've done is post your request on the list, not subscribe to the list!
Good luck, and welcome aboard in advance!
-- Jeff Silverstein -- zamster@apple.com
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 12:34:30 -0500 From: bflynn@sps.edu (Ben Flynn) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Derek and Fostex Message-ID: <v01530500ad9adb47f32b@[199.95.40.23]>
Hi all, I have to things to report here. One, I was reading the thank you list on the inside of Widowmaker's first album, "Blood and Bullets", and noticed that in addition to Steve Vai, Vinnie Moore and other big names that Dee Snider and Al Pitrelli would know the name Derek Shrennian (spelling?-I don't have the album in front of me) shows up. I know that this band is from Long Island, but this album was released in '92. What band was Derek with at this time? I just wanted to share this little discovery with you. By the way, if you haven't checked Widowmaker out its definately worth it. Visit Dee's web page for info on how to get "Blood and Bullets" sice the label that released it went under. Their last album, "Standby for Pain" is in stores, though. Next thing. I am looking into buying a Fostex E-8 reel to reel 8-track used from someone and the specs that he sent me seem pretty good. I would like to know more about it, though. If anyone has any info at all about this unit or opinions on it your input would be greatly appreciated. If anyone has a picture of it from a magazine or their own studio possibly I would be extremely grateful to you if you scanned it and e-mailed it to me. Thanks a lot, Ben Flynn bflynn@sps.edu
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 13:27:58 EDT From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/17/96 - 18:29:11" <response@ibmmail.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Mail Item Format Warning Message-ID: <199604171727.KAA07129@mindcrime.ax.com>
The mail item that you sent at 17:25:56 GMT on 17 Apr 1996 has been delivered.
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 13:32:06 -0400 From: aar1@cornell.edu (Alexis A. Ramos) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: No DT?? Message-ID: <v02120000ad9ad9f7ca4c@[132.236.144.20]>
>Contents of the Disk bag for the car; >1) The dance of Eternity >2) Chasing time (Fates Warning) >3) Powerslave ( Iron Maiden) >4) Hanging in the balance ( Metal Church) >Not that anyone cares!!!!!! > > Elen sila lumenn omentilmo, Gandalf > >
>>Yet another person not carrying DREAM THEATER every where. WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?????????? Are you sacreligious???
Corey E. Cleary<<
Hello?? What do you think The Dance of Eternity is?? Maybe you're the one being sacreligious for not knowing what the DoE is. No DT?? Are you sure? Maybe you need some Spanish lessons or something :) Bye!
Alexis
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 13:30:11 +0500 From: richard@capitale.qc.ca (Richard James) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: dt on radio Message-ID: <9604171730.AA07743@jason.qc.ca>
next week at 12:00am tuesday there a special "dream theater" for you
if you are in QUEBEC area at CHOIM-FM 98.1 . the program is call "RONDE DE NUIT"
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 96 13:12:14 CST From: rkasper@cclink.aus.etn.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Shades of dream consciousness... Message-ID: <9603178297.AA829772123@cclink.aus.etn.com>
I had the wierdest, and coolest dream last night that I've had in many a month. (This could be due to the fact that I've quit smoking weed this last two weeks...) Nevertheless, I am grateful. I live in Austin, TX - The Live Music Capital of The World - and to my knowledge DT has only played here once. (DT members, if you're reading this, COME BACK TO AUSTIN SOON!) Anyway, the dream was like this: I was sitting in the Cactus Cafe, enjoying a 'rita and chips and salsa, when JP, JM, and MP just walked in! It was sooo vivid, like I was really _there_. Cactus Cafe being one of hundreds of live music venues in Austin, and me being such a DT fan, I immediately approached their table and suggested that these three GODS OF ROCK would have my undying gratitude if they'd play a song or two. As if by magic, they produced instruments (Hey, it was a dream...) and began to JAM! Improvisational Utopia! They played for hours! (Hey, it was MY dream!) I awoke feeling drained but ecstatic. A big thank-you to my subconscious mind (and it's constructs of JP, JM, and MP) for an incredible set! Incredibly, I didn't forget any of this dream, again probably due to the decrease of short-term-memory-affecting substances in my system. Just thought you 'Jammers might like to hear about this incredible Astral Concert. Asta luego... -Rob Petruccianity will save the lost! Convert! Be baptized into the New Order of music! All hail Petrucci! Bless us, oh Masterful Muse!
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 11:20:26 -0700 From: skooc@ix.netcom.com (Scott Cook) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Fwd: KISS USA TOUR DATES (fwd) Message-ID: <199604171820.LAA19283@dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com>
For the anyone who's interested, here's the dates so far for the KISS reunion. Prices range from $25-$85 (golden circle seats).
Scott Cook ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 17:25:08 -0400 From: Arthur Mills <deuce355@skylands.net> To: kissarmy@buffnet4.buffnet.net Subject: USA TOUR DATES
AS PER THE KISS "PRESS KIT" THAT WAS GIVEN OUT, THESE ARE THE US DATES:
6/28 TIGER STADIUM DETROIT 6/30 FREEDOM HALL LOUSIVILLE,KY 7/2 KEIL ST.LOUIS,MO 7/3 KEMPER AREA KC, MO 7/5 REUNION AREA DALLAS,TX 7/6 HOUSTON SUMMIT HOUSTON,TX 7/7 FREEMAN COL. SAN ANTONIO, TX 7/9 UNO LAKEFRONT NEW ORLEANS, LA 7/10 THE PYRAMID MEMPHIS,TN 7/12 ROSEMONT CHICAGO, IL 7/13 CIVIC CTR ST. PAUL, MN 7/14 MARK MOLINE, IL 7/16 MARKET SQ. AREA INDIANAPOLIS, IN 7/17 NUTTER CTR DAYTON, OH 7/19 GUND AREA CLEVELAND, OH 7/20 CIVIC AREA PITTSBURG, PA 7/21 AUD BUFFALO, NY 7/23 CAP CTR WASHINGTON DC 7/25, 26 MSG NY, NY 7/27 SPECTRUM PHILA, PA 7/28 CIVIC CTR HARTFORD, CT 7/30 CIVIC CTR PROVID. RI 7/31 FLEEY CTR BOSTON, MA
(ADDITIONAL DATES TO BE ADDED) *** ALL DATES SUBJECT TO CHANGE
FOR FURTHER INFO E-MAIL ME: DEUCE355@SKYLANDS.NET
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 14:19:12 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: YtseCon III Attendees List Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9604171458.H5728-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
I think this was probably one of the 15 posts that got lost, so here goes again...
YtseCon III Attendees List Name <e-mail address> D/P + x D/P = I'm definite/possible and my x friends are definite/possible. Please check your name, address, and number of people attending for accuracy. Report problems to me, Chris Merlo, at d-man@dreamt.org or cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu.
I will NOT assume that you are or are not going, depending on where you live, or how long you have known me. If you plan to attend YtseCon III, and your name is not on this list, e-mail me and tell me explicitly that you plan to attend.
Also, please remember that I'm not in charge of the Ytsecon. I'm just collecting names. Jeff Chew (jc309@columbia.edu) is the man to ask administrative stuff (like, "When is the Con? Where will it be held?"). As it seems, the Con will be held in New Jersey on Columbus Day weekend, either that Saturday (10/12/96) or Sunday (10/13/96).
Abosso, Dan <al682@osfn.rhilinet.gov> D + 2D Allen, Trey <tallen@junix.ju.edu> D + 1P Augustover, Heath <augie@unix.asb.com> D + 4P Backof, Michael <mbacko1@gl.umbc.edu> D + 0 Bahr, Mike <durnik@indirect.com> D + 1D Stuff Barker, Rob <rbarker@epix.net> D + 0 Benenati, Frank <mojoman@pointblank.com> D + 0 Bogie <bogie34@aol.com> P + 0 Breitweg, Jason <jbreitwe@lobelia.physics.wisc.edu> P + 0 Cashman, Paul <vanyel@crl.com> P + 0 Chew, Greg <grc8@columbia.edu> D + 0 Chew, Jeff <jc309@columbia.edu> D + ?? Cleary, Corey <clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu> D + 1D Rides Cook, Chad <ccook@bbn.com> P + 0 Fibraio, Damon <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> D + 0 Goldenberg, Rachel <wisha@li.net> P + 1P Griffin, Pat <c675311@showme.missouri.edu> P + 1P Rides? Herman, Scott <anthem@virginia.edu> D + 0 Inverso, Ryan <rinverso@cosi.stockton.edu> D + 6P Karger, Allen <akarger@bu.edu> P + 0 Kirk, Brian <bkirk@blkbox.com> D + 0 Kita Woo <kitawoo@aol.com> P + 1P Kizer, Mike <mrkizer@ccgate.hac.com> P + 0 Klunck, Chad <raytheon@dreamt.org> P + 0 Leifer, Rob <guitar@haven.ios.com> D + 3P Lutz, James <jlutz@hartford.edu> P + 4P Martin, Andrew <martinah@csd.uwm.edu> D + 0 Merlo, Chris <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> D + 2P Rides Miller, Andrew (DE) <ytsejam@udel.edu> P + 4P Miller, Andrew (IA) <millera@chop.isca.uiowa.edu> P + 0 MoeGLinG, eRiC <freenet.scri.fsu.edu> P + 2P Moury, Jon <jmoury@wam.umd.edu> P + 0 Neff, David <dneff@maaco.com> P + 0 Olson, Jeffrey <sinista@netexpress.net> D + 3P Ostrich, Mike <syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu> D + 0 Rides Sleep Plotkin, David <dhplotki@students.wisc.edu> D + 1D Reed, Ed <ereed@comp.uark.edu> P + 0 Rios, Kevin <krios@suffolk.lib.ny.us> D + 0 Rivera, Richie <rrivera@moose.uvm.edu> D + 0 Skadberg, Ryan <skadz@bluesky.net> D + 2P Slang, Greg <slang@internexus.net> D + 2D Steele, Jason <jts129@psu.edu> D + 1D Thetgyi, Jack <thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu> P + 2P Tritt, Dori <tritt@eden.rutgers.edu> D + 4P Washkevich, Mike <m_washke@acad.lvc.edu> D + 0 YoSammity <yosammity@aol.com> P + 1P
TOTALS: 35 Definite 61 Possible
Rides: Volunteers for rides. Sleep: Volunteers for places for Jammers to crash. Stuff: You know :) Contact these people separately.
Last updated April 16th
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 11:22:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Costa <acos0206@uriacc.uri.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1445 Message-ID: <199604171822.LAA10943@mindcrime.ax.com>
>>Contents of the Disk bag for the car; >>1) The dance of Eternity >>2) Chasing time (Fates Warning) >>3) Powerslave ( Iron Maiden) >>4) Hanging in the balance ( Metal Church) >>Not that anyone cares!!!!!! >> >> Elen sila lumenn omentilmo, Gandalf >> >> At 12:33 AM 4/17/96 -0700, you so eloquently stated: >Yet another person not carrying DREAM THEATER every where. WHAT'S WRONG >WITH YOU?????????? Are you sacreligious??? > >Corey E. Cleary > You shouldn't be so quick to judge. The Dance of Eternity IS DT. :)
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@ @@ @@ -I bash my head against your wall everyday. @@ @@ You'd bash your head against a wall anyway.- @@ @@ -Anthrax- @@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
-Iznogoud-
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 14:24:43 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Majesty mouse pointer Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9604171447.I5728-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
Who was it that turned the Majesty logo into a mouse pointer for Unix? I can't remember. Could you e-mail me? Thanks. -D
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