YTSEJAM Digest 1449
Today's Topics:
1) Eric Johnson (NDTC) (fwd)
by Scott Daugherty <SRDAUGZ2@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
2) Yup...
by Adam Pye <alpine@negia.net>
3) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/18/96 - 03:22:59" <response@ibmmail.com>
4)
by blim <syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
5) Re: Braindance
by William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
6) No DT open your EYES!!!!!!!
by FNGX01A@prodigy.com (MR JOHN CAHILLJR)
7) Chill... I was kidding.
by clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E Cleary)
8) Is the overkill album "Horrorscope" any good???
by vestal@usa.net (DUSTY VESTAL)
9) Once again, just kidding.
by clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E Cleary)
10) Thoughts on Fates
by FNGX01A@prodigy.com (MR JOHN CAHILLJR)
11) Hello...
by clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E Cleary)
12) DOOM and DT...................
by market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
13) I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T KNOW.
by clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E Cleary)
14) True Thoughts...
by clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E Cleary)
15) cds
by John Shaft <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
16) You know what sucks
by Andrew Miller <andym@wicked.stigmata.org>
17) dreams, CD's
by ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
18) ASDF
by FDDC08F@prodigy.com (MR FRANK A CLARK)
19) DT=integrity, Satch and Eric Johnson
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 96 22:09:09 EDT
From: Scott Daugherty <SRDAUGZ2@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
To: majestY <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Eric Johnson (NDTC) (fwd)
Message-ID: <960417.221100.EDT.SRDAUGZ2@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Well, I too was one of the unlucky ones whose message didn't get through. So
here it is again (I think some of you will be glad I reposted it).
Ok, Ok. I have to give in. With all this talk about Eric Johnson lately, I
must tell all of you fans that I have two concerts of his on videotape. They
are both kinda old and are broadcasts of a show called "Austin City Limits."
The first was before Ah Via Musicom and the second was after, so that gives you
an idea of what's on them. Oh, by the way, they both rock.
I am willing to make dubs for people, but for some reason I am anticipating the
interest to be rather high. If the interest _is_ too high, I might come up
with a mini-dubbing tree a la Brian Cox. I also may wait to do the dubbing
until I can get better copies from a friend (mine are in the C+ range).
So anyway, just e-mail me (srdaugz2@ulkyvm.louisville.edu) if you're interested
and we'll work something out.
See ya,
Scott Daugherty
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:22:14 -0400
From: Adam Pye <alpine@negia.net>
To: ripzero <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Yup...
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960418022214.006a72e4@negia.net>
>>Someone's musical taste has nothing to do with how much they know about
>>music. People who like DT, Qeensryche, Yes, Rush, etc don't have to know
>>anything about music either. Your friend likes country and slams DT.
>>You like DT and you slam country music. Who's the narrowminded idiot now?
>>
>This has to be one of the most intelligent comments made yet. I listent to
>classical, contry, pop, rap, r&b, soft rock, hard rock, alternative, metal,
>progressive metal, thrash metal, techno, speed metal, and the list still
>continues. Is this saying that I'm some psychomusicmaniac??
Yes, it's very valid, but it didn't pertain to the original poster's
(me) message. I was speaking of two specific people and not making
generalizations. Apparently neither of you actually read my message...
Also, these statements only apply if the person has little
experience with different genres and refuses to try them out - ie, closed
mindedness. I grew up in Georgia, a major nesting place for country and now
a haven for rap and alternative. I was just introduced to DT about 2 years
ago but before then had been bombarded with country, rap and pop. I've
tried these kinds of music and have given them years of listening, and have
decided that the kind of music we discuss here is vastly superior to the MTV
type music that's so popular now. It's assinine to call me closed minded
w/o knowing me. I can call my friends, and those are the only people I'm
talking about, closed minded b/c I know they've 1) never listened to the
music and thus have no experience and 2) refuse to try the music. You guys
need to think before you write slams at someone... Sheesh...
Adam Pye
- alpine@negia.net
- http://www.negia.net/~alpine
- IZZC #1426
- Ask for the bootlist!
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:21:43 EDT
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:22:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: blim <syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
To: Yitz-see-jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.960417221859.26321A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
hey, all. syrinx here once again!@
well, for you echolyn freaks, let me tell you that CDCONNECTION
is alive and well. they _ARE_ shipping "Suffocating The Bloom", and in
fact i got my copy this evening. I am quite impressed by the sound
quality, and i reccommend it to EVERY SINGLE ECHOLYN FAN.
there. got that out of my system.
now, on alt.music.rush., me and this guy "dan" are going back and
forth between rush and dream theater. (i'm the ytsejam@op.net d00d), so
any worthwhile critism that i can give this guy (this means that you guys
have to read the newsgroup (shudder) and be up with the info) stuff to
this guy.
as for me and the sleeping at the crib, i have 2 confirmations as
of right now, and i'm not accepting any more. D-Man, please take my name
off the "sleep" list (and fucker, why don't you email me about THOSE
GODDAMN TAPES YOU WANTED!?@!?@?!@?!).
maybe one day skadz will send me my own birch hill tapes he owes
me. nah.
well, i'm outte. rememeber to "say it proud, and say it LOUD!@"
-------------------------------------
Michael B. Ostrich
musical advisor/consultant
ytsejam@op.net
syrinx@dreamt.org
syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu
..and a partriage in a pear tree.
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:23:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: William T Bajzek <wb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Braindance
Message-ID: <0lROSu200YUg0SVZw0@andrew.cmu.edu>
that was the wrong band... the good one has 2 independant releases,
"shadows" and "fear itself"... you probably can't find them for 99
cents anywhere.
we'll steal your dreams ----william bajzek---- the realm of the freaks
control your minds ------------http://--------- is to solve the demise
persecute the fools ----phoebe.dws.acs.cmu.edu---- ravage the lifeless
left behind -------------------/~wb2a/---------------- blinded by lies
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:48:47 EDT
From: FNGX01A@prodigy.com (MR JOHN CAHILLJR)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: No DT open your EYES!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <096.06257235.FNGX01A@prodigy.com>
Ah Cory, I hate to break this to you but T Dance of Eternity is
DREAM THEATER live at The Limelight in NYC,hence the name " Love is
the dance of eternityyyyy "
Elen sila lumenn omentilmo, Gandalf
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:34:26 -0500
From: clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E Cleary)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Chill... I was kidding.
Message-ID: <199604180334.WAA28229@tuvok.marian.edu>
>Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 12:22:28 -0400 (EDT)
>From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
>To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
>Subject: stuff
>Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9604171218.I27998-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
>
>> From: clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E. Cleary)
>> Subject: No DT??
>>
>> >Contents of the Disk bag for the car;
>> >1) The dance of Eternity
>>
>> Yet another person not carrying DREAM THEATER every where. WHAT'S WRONG
>> WITH YOU?????????? Are you sacreligious???
>
>Dude, chill. 1) TDoE is a DT boot. 2) There's nothing wrong with not
>listening to DT every waking moment of the day. They're a BAND.
>(Although I noticed that Gandalf didn't have any Rush with him. But I
>digress. :) 3) What are you, DreamNDay's cousin or something?
>
Chill guys, I was just kidding. It's okay not to listen to DT... But be
really proud of it:)
Corey E. Cleary
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 21:12:46 -0600
From: vestal@usa.net (DUSTY VESTAL)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Is the overkill album "Horrorscope" any good???
Message-ID: <199604180312.VAA25058@mail.usa.net>
I was wondering what some of the jammers opinion of Overkill is?
Is it me or does W.F.O. have some of the best, crunchiest guitar
riffs ever, ESPECIALLY W.F.O The question I have is, is the album
"Horrorscope" worth getting?? Does it have some of the intense riffing? as
W.F.O.? I just think they are underrated as a band. They just seem different
compared to most speed metal these days...
TAKE CARE.....DUSTY
|__________________________________________________________|
|"Likely or not, it's a dream that we keep and at odds with|
| our senses we'll climb. But if faith is the answer, we've|
| already reached it, and if spirit's a sign, then it's |
| only a matter of time" ---- DREAM THEATER |
| |
| ( : |
|__________________________________________________________|
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:45:50 -0500
From: clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E Cleary)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Once again, just kidding.
Message-ID: <199604180345.WAA28271@tuvok.marian.edu>
>>Yet another person not carrying DREAM THEATER every where. WHAT'S WRONG
>>WITH YOU?????????? Are you sacreligious???
>
Reposting for your convience.... I WAS JUST
KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(ha ha) you can take a joke, I hope.
Corey E. Cleary
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 23:21:02 EDT
From: FNGX01A@prodigy.com (MR JOHN CAHILLJR)
To: Ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Thoughts on Fates
Message-ID: <096.06261115.FNGX01A@prodigy.com>
I was wondering the pattern that Fates warning has used when
replacing members.
1) Victor Arduini leaves and is replaced by Frank Aresti
2) John Arch leaves and is replaced by Ray Alder
3) Steve Zimmerman leaves and is replaced by Mark Zonder
A-Z they covered the Gamut
Inside Out made me realize that Fates Warning was out standing in
their field, get it
Elen sila lumenn omentilmo, Gandalf
P.S. Digital man, I listened to Hold your fire before I left for work
so just relax.
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:49:26 -0500
From: clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E Cleary)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hello...
Message-ID: <199604180349.WAA28292@tuvok.marian.edu>
>Date: Wed, 17 Apr 96 10:24:09 -0700
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>To: <ytsejam@ax.com>
>Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1445
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>
>>From: FDDC08F@prodigy.com (MR FRANK A CLARK)
>>To: YTSEJAM@ax.com
>>Subject: ASDF
>>Message-ID: <097.06179935.FDDC08F@prodigy.com>
>>
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>
Jeff, you are a good hearted sole, it's just too bad that Frank can't hear you.
Corey E. Cleary
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:26:08 -0500
From: market@clubmet.metrobbs.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DOOM and DT...................
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.4.17.-10.26.8.15783.13773@clubmet.metrobbs.com>
I would like to get a copy of the DT doom game. Anyone can help?
Todd s
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:58:26 -0500
From: clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E Cleary)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T KNOW.
Message-ID: <199604180358.WAA28329@tuvok.marian.edu>
>>1) The dance of Eternity
I didn't know that this was a DT dub. I've tried to get to know DT dubs,
but I've been unsuccessfull.
Corey E. Cleary
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 23:13:54 -0500
From: clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E Cleary)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: True Thoughts...
Message-ID: <199604180413.XAA28360@tuvok.marian.edu>
Okay, I do think that DT is the greatest band, but there are other
great bands too. I love Huey Lewis and the News. I've listened to them for
a long time. I also love Beethoven, Bach, Brahms, Roosmerof, and many other
composer. I also thing that Sepultera is pretty awsome. I'm sorry if I
really confuzzed anyone... I was really just playing around.
Deepest Apologies...
Corey E. Cleary
Somewhere in the promises
I've fallen...
Deep beneath the light. --ME.
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:52:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: John Shaft <polzin@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: cds
Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960417224442.15620B-100000@eehpx7.cen.uiuc.edu>
I have a question about cd quality. I know that analog tapes diminish in
sound quality the more you listen to the and the older they are. Does
the same thing happen to cds? Originally, it wasnt supposed to happen
but i've that is does lately. I noticed that my origianl Awake cd doesnt
sound as good as the Japanese version that i just bought about a month
ago. The Japanese version sounds much clearer. I dont think it could be
the result of manufacturing. Or could it be?
This is just what i heard recently. Someone was argueing that gold cds
retain their sound quality better than normal cds. They argued the
reason being, the iron or aluminum that is the reflective surface of the
cd gets oxidized as the cd ages. The gold cds were said to last longer
becuase it take gold a longer amount of time to "rust" than the other
materials.
I dont understand how this is possible since the reflextive surface is
coated with plastic and other stuff. Can someone please clarify this for
me? And can someone PLEASE give me the URL to Magna Carta? I've done
web searches and cannot find it. I had a bookmark to it but recently
reformatted my hard drive and lost it. Anyone?
Ed
[31m WWW: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~polzin/
[34m DT: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/polzin/dt/dt.htm
[35mBOOTLEGS: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/polzin/boots/boots.htm
[35m------------------------------------------------------------
[31m- Who's the black private dick that's a sex machine with -
[31m- all the chicks? -
[35m------------------------------------------------------------
[34m- Duct Tape is like The Force: It has a Dark Side, it -
[34m- has a light side, and it holds the Universe together. -
[35m------------------------------------------------------------
[37m- You walk into a room to find only a -
[37m- dead man, shot through the head, a -
[37m- table, and fifty-three bicycles on -
[37m- the floor. What happened? -
[35m------------------------------------------------------------
[35m- finger polzin@students.uiuc.edu -
[35m- for the answer -
[35m------------------------------------------------------------
[37m
[0m
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 23:56:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Miller <andym@wicked.stigmata.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: You know what sucks
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960417235412.14525A-100000@wicked.stigmata.org>
A night without IRC :(
-more bandwith killed
BTW, I'm listening to Crash Test Dummies, anybody know when there new album
comes out?
Andrew Miller Real people get mail from my other account,
andym@dreamt.org only there will you see the true signatures
--or-- of Andy Miller. Thanks go out to Ryan, for
ytsejam@Udel.Edu without him this .sig would not be possible.
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 00:32:17 -0400
From: ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: dreams, CD's
Message-ID: <19960418043215.AAA19608@mail.pananet.com>
I had this really weird dream which had dreamt a while ago and forgot about
it, but after reading the most recent dream post I remembered it. I was
hearing 'Voices' and when it got the part where Prix-mo talks, JL spoke
intstead w/ this really annoying voice... I wonder why everytime i dream
about DT, JL always ends up looking bad, when I think he's one of the most
awesome singers in the world. Oh well, it goes to show you.. ooops, that's
Ben's line:)
I checked CD's from the library, and for some odd reason I thought I should
share what I think abot them w/ you all:
Tori Amos- Little Earthquakes: I finally got around to listening to her, and
when can I say? It's great music, nothing more, nothing less, just great music.
R. Fripp & The League of Crafty Guitarists- Show of Hands: It's Fripp. what
more can you say?
Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe: Yes - Squire= New Age:) actually I haven't
really listened to this one yet, so my opinion doesn't count.
John Scofield/Pat Matheney- I can see your House From Here: great stuff.
Miles Davis- Bitches Brew: Didn't like it at all... is all his stuff like this?
I noticed somebody mentioned Marillion being heavy... well I guess they
changed their style quite drastically... I got Brave and it's lack of
heaviness is what hasn't let me listen to this CD completely...BTW... is
their greatest hits cd any good?
Hey Ben, doesn't the creative process suck when you don't have any
creativity in you? That's the point where I'm at...
You guys want a serious adrenaline rush? Read 'Anthem' by Ayn Rand and then
listen to "I Am I" by QR... dAAAAAAAAAAMNNNN!! what a rush:)
"I AM THE KILL UHH HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
----------------------------------
"No contaban con mi astucia!"
Ernie
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 00:35:04 EDT
From: FDDC08F@prodigy.com (MR FRANK A CLARK)
To: YTSEJAM@ax.com
Subject: ASDF
Message-ID: <097.06268114.FDDC08F@prodigy.com>
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Date: Wed, 17 Apr 96 21:41:10 PDT
From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT=integrity, Satch and Eric Johnson
Message-ID: <9604180441.AA00521@tengs1>
>
> From: Adam Pye <alpine@negia.net>
> Subject: Re: d'oh!
>
> >I just want to know if I'm not alone here. Does anyone else on the jam find
> >themselves with a group of narrow-minded people who all think DT "sucks"?
> >It's impossible to explain how good they are to people who can't except
> >something if it's just a little off beat or little different from MTV kind
> >of stuff. It's so frustrating! There's nothing I can say to these people
> >because they have no musical knowledge and if it doesn't sound like pearl
> >jam or oasis then it sucks. Does anyone else have musically narrow-minded
> >friends? It's okay if you don't like them, but don't say they suck. At
> >least respect them for their talent.
>
> Oh yeah! You're not alone my friend. I've got two particular
> friends in mind. They know nothing of music. One likes country and the
> other rap, which explains alot right off the bat. Neither could discern DT
> from Queensryche or Yes, and one thought Led Zep was DT. Talk about bad
> listening skills. Wait! I'm wrong. All of those bands use guitars, drums,
> keyboards, and vocals, so they must sound the same! Everything with those
> instruments on MTV sounds the same, so all music must too! Stupid... My
> favorite argument that, for some reason, they continually use to explain why
> Dream Theater is bad is that rap artists and generic alternative sells more
> records and tickets. It must be better music b/c more people like them.
> Well, I might reason, that means that Hootie and the Blowfish is the best
> band ever to walk the face of the earth. They've sold many more records
> than anyone else in the last year, so they must make the best music. Ummm,
> I don't think so. Another good one is that they can't be good because they
> wear, according to my friends, "tight leather pants" in their LiT video,
> which they don't. They're black jeans.
You know, this brings up an interesting point (hopefully). Most of the
music that is liked by teenagers, present company excluded, is composed
and played by dudes ten, fifteen years older than them. These kids
(I use the term to describe attitude, more than anything) are snared
hook, line, and sinker by the image/attitude/music of people that don't
even belong to the same generation. The relationship is reflexive; the
artists adopt what is perceived to be the dress/attitudes of the younger
generation, which *reinforces* the false assumption of the masses that
their ideas are original (does that make sense?). People put down DT
because they think that they perpetuate the dress and attitudes of the
80s. The thing is, DT really doesn't (and so what if they do? they grew
up during that time) to the extent of which they are accused (most
of those idiots were sucking Enfamil during that time anyway). Dream
Theater transcends the trend to which I refer. That is integrity.
> From: bfgrabo@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Benjamin F. Grabowski)
> Subject: Re: JP clinics/Satch/Rush
>
>
> Hey!:
>
> Joe Satriani is going to be in Raleigh, NC on Friday May 3, and Charleston NC
> on Saturday May 4. Someone out there wanted to know, so I thought I'd tell
> ya. I'm gonna see him in Chicago on April 26. I haven't seen him in
> concert since 1990! It'll be awesome!!
I think that was the time I saw him before last month (Flying in a Blue
Dream tour?). Interestingly, Eric Johnson opened for him! He was the only
opening act I've seen where the *whole crowd* gave a standing ovation at
the end of the set. He blew Satch off the stage. It dissapointed me so
much that I refused to go see him on The Extremist tour (and because
Mover and Hamm weren't backing him). Having seen Satch put on an outstanding
show last month, I now conclude that he was having a bad night in '90.
Zach
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