YTSEJAM Digest 1463
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/22/96 - 03:57:37" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1459
by ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
3) DT experience
by Space Dye Vest <jc309@columbia.edu>
4) Hmmmm....
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
5) echolyn clarifaction
by Andrew Miller <andym@wicked.stigmata.org>
6) The Band that never met
by ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
7) Re: StB echolyn (little DT content)
by "Jonathan Byrne" <RRI02@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU>
8) Re: echolyn clarifaction
by "Jonathan Byrne" <RRI02@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU>
9) Clinics
by DytsejamT@aol.com
10) Re: My Kawaii GIJoe:)
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
11) Re: Review of PW show
by "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
12) DT sightings (well kinda sorta)
by curth@execpc.com
13) stuff
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
14) WARNING
by blane@nla.gov.au
15) My Dying Bride
by "Andrew Keith Garinger" <garinger@pilot.msu.edu>
16) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1453
by blane@nla.gov.au
17) asdf (WWW generated email)
by Gerardo Munoz <jmunoz@data.net.mx>
18) Label offers
by Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
19) Red Hot Chili Peppers
by babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
20) Alternative Bands
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
21) Tori Amos
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 22:56:20 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/22/96 - 03:57:37" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199604220255.TAA20844@mindcrime.ax.com>
The mail item that you sent at 02:56:13 GMT on 22 Apr 1996 has been delivered.
However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 23:24:47 -0400
From: ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1459
Message-ID: <19960422032445.AAA21748@mail.pananet.com>
>1. Bafu Vai 9 #1368, 1384, 1385, 1386, 1394, 1429, 1433, 1437,
> 1454
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>2. Mike Bahr 5 #1358, 1366, 1395, 1397, 1418
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>3. Ernesto Schnack 5 #1334, 1378, 1389, 1409, 1455
>
wow. At least I made it to 1 of the many top-tens on this list :)
>
>From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: What's sampled on I & W?
>The whole thing is one bug digital sample!
>
They sampled a bug? where? That must sound cool! ;)
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"No contaban con mi astucia!"
Ernie
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 23:39:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Space Dye Vest <jc309@columbia.edu>
To: BafuJam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: DT experience
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960421233616.12329A-100000@inibara.cc.columbia.edu>
Dear jammers,
Hey there! Just wanted to share a brief DT encounter I experienced
today. I was driving in my neighborhood (Glen Head, Long Island), and I
saw someone standing in front of Lickity Splits (I think it was there,
near the Glen HEad Post Office) and he was wearing one of Trey's black
Dream Theater t-shirts! Pretty cool, didn't know who the guy was but
it's cool that there are other ytsejammers in my neighborhood. TTYL!
Yours,
Jeff =)
<*> Jeff Chew <*> jc309@columbia.edu <*> jeffc@dreamt.org <*>
<*> Columbia University <*> (212) 853-6952 <*> Beeper (917) 712-4828 <*>
<*> http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309/dreamt.html <*>
"Aladdin! You just won the heart of the princess! What are
you gonna do next?" --- Genie, Disney's Aladdin
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 20:41:45 -0700
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hmmmm....
Message-ID: <199604220341.UAA24226@maple.enet.net>
>Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 12:57:52 -0400
>From: gehrig4@seacoast.com (Robert Rivers)
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: question
>Message-ID: <199604211657.MAA12082@worf.worx.net>
>
> How do you get a message posted on the digest? I would
>appreciate any help you could give me . thanks
Heeheeheeehahahaeheheheahhaehehahahehehaheheheheeheeeheehaahaaheehea. :-)
YNMF!!!!!!
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
Favorite Song(s) of the Week: My last name.
Mr. Cool of Lal
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 23:41:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Miller <andym@wicked.stigmata.org>
To: YTSEJAM digest <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: echolyn clarifaction
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960421233428.8951A-100000@wicked.stigmata.org>
I don't know if I was clear on this question so I am going to try again.
Does anyone find it funny at all that 'Suite for Everyman' seems to be
about never selling out, never 'selling for the sake of sales'. And
after they released StB, they signed with SONY. Given in context with
full grasp of the lyrics and song, does anyone else find this funny,
ironic, scary? Do get me wrong I am the biggest echolyn fan in Delaware
(tm), but I just thought that really was wierd.
Something just told me this was going to happen. I was thinking about it
early today, I'm so excited!!!
>Andrew Miller Real people get mail from my other account,
>andym@dreamt.org only there will you see the true signatures
> --or-- of Andy Miller. Thanks go out to Ryan, for
>ytsejam@Udel.Edu without him this .sig would not be possible.
>
>
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Anyway, the addresses and the .sig is above later..... andy
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 23:46:56 -0400
From: ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The Band that never met
Message-ID: <19960422034654.AAA22274@mail.pananet.com>
:
>
> "The Really Good Band That Has Never Met In Person"
>
> Could be interesting. Was going to be "Four Guys and Charone <grin>
>Writing Metropolis Pt. 2 Over the Internet", but the guitarist (ERNIE, you
>bastard! :-) is leaving for Germany.
Damn Ben! You're already kickin' me out? Waddup w/ that? I'm still gonna be
here for 2 months... at least let me in on the creative process ;)
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"No contaban con mi astucia!"
Ernie
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 00:11:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Jonathan Byrne" <RRI02@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU>
To: "YtseJam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: StB echolyn (little DT content)
Message-ID: <wvmail32.1996apr22.000839.rri02@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
On 04/21/96 at 19:31:51 Andrew Miller said:
>I was think about the cd itself. And I know most of you don't care but
>it is a cd by a band who has very little money, as opposed to DT who
>lives comfortably without having to work other jobs. I was thinking,
>"Hey echolyn is getting no money from this cd and this guy is selling a
>ton of them". But I kind of put my thoughts to ease when I relzied
>echolyn would want the cd to be out there and that there is nothing they
>can do to get it out there because SONY (the assholes) have the rights to
>the cd (as well as 'debut'). So I guess I can look at it in the way that
>SONY isn't making any money off of this either, so that may be a good
>thing.
I don't know about this. A little while ago, the band was selling a limited
edition of StB itself. It was just a plain black CD in a cardboard sleeve.
It came with The Gardener's Guide, with all the lyrics and stuff, but no
art or anything. I sent my money to Bridge (their management-not Sony
affiliated). It was kinda cool, like a bootleg direct from the band to
fuck the record company. So maybe they're making some money on this deal,
too.
Later
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"Why do you want to go back with them? Jonathan Byrne
To listen to music with your pocketbook West Virginia University
instead of your glands?" rri02@wvnvm.wvnet.edu
-Ray Bradbury, _The Martian Chronicles_
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 00:14:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Jonathan Byrne" <RRI02@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU>
To: "YtseJam" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: echolyn clarifaction
Message-ID: <wvmail32.1996apr22.001206.rri02@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
On 04/21/96 at 20:41:38 Andrew Miller said:
>I don't know if I was clear on this question so I am going to try again.
>Does anyone find it funny at all that 'Suite for Everyman' seems to be
>about never selling out, never 'selling for the sake of sales'. And
>after they released StB, they signed with SONY. Given in context with
>full grasp of the lyrics and song, does anyone else find this funny,
>ironic, scary? Do get me wrong I am the biggest echolyn fan in Delaware
>(tm), but I just thought that really was wierd.
It is a llittle wierd, but I think even with Sony being the huge pricks
they were, echolyn didn't really sell out. Just because you are on a major
label doesn't mean you have to compromise artistically. _as the world_ is
hardly a straight forward pop/rock album, after all.
Just a thought.
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"Why do you want to go back with them? Jonathan Byrne
To listen to music with your pocketbook West Virginia University
instead of your glands?" rri02@wvnvm.wvnet.edu
-Ray Bradbury, _The Martian Chronicles_
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 00:53:17 -0400
From: DytsejamT@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Clinics
Message-ID: <960422005316_277748903@emout09.mail.aol.com>
Can anyone tell me about these guitar clinics that John P. has been doing?
Are there any more scheduled? If so, what are the specifics? (how do I
sign up, etc...)
Thanks
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 96 0:58:24 EDT
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: My Kawaii GIJoe:)
Message-ID: <9604220458.AA28037@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
Well, ... if it works for you, that's fine. I cannot see myself ever going
back to cheaper synths, unless they are used analog synths. The low-end synth
market just doesn't offer me what I want. Yes, I look down on lower-enmd
synths, call me a snob, I don't care. But, if it's what you want, if it's all
you can afford, and it does the job you want it to do and it makes you
ahappy, then I am happy for you.
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 96 1:00:08 EDT
From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Review of PW show
Message-ID: <9604220500.AA03270@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
All right. I now this is the Dream Theater list and not the Power Windows
list, but if anybody sees PW playing in Jersey and they don't mind dragginan
obnoxious blind guy along with them, email me asap. I am going through PW
withdrawal.. I want to see them again. They're soooooooo good.
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 00:13:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: curth@execpc.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT sightings (well kinda sorta)
Message-ID: <199604220513.AAA02345@earth.execpc.com>
Hi all,
Well I just got back from opening day of Six Flags Great America. Anyway,
while there, I wore my Awake T-shirt (band photo with Majesty symbol over it
on the front). During lunch (in the parking lot - we brought our own food)
some guy drove by and asked me where I got the shirt; I didn't get a chance to
say much, but it was cool to run into another DT fan. No less than 10 minutes
later, some other guy walks by wearing an I&W shirt that had the band photo on
the front - I told the guy that he's got good taste in music, as I pointed to
my shirt and I got the thumbs up from him.
Okay, so maybe this post is a waste of bandwidth, but I thought it was cool
and figured that you all could appreciate it. BTW, if any of you *were* at
Great America on April 21, I'd be curious to know if it was you that I spoke
to briefly.
Scott Hansen
curth@execpc.com
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 01:17:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: stuff
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9604220118.D26333-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
> Subject: Itchy's Most Frequent Endings top-6
>
> Any suggestions for other lists ? :-)
How about the most frequently posted most-frequent lists? ;)
----> From: gehrig4@seacoast.com (Robert Rivers) > Subject: question > > How do you get a message posted on the digest? I would > appreciate any help you could give me . thanks
Again?? Seriously, now, where do people get the wrong address? Everyone check your links.
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> From: FNGX01A@prodigy.com (MR JOHN CAHILLJR) > Subject: Review of PW show > > Wow!!!!!! What a show. Mojoman, Its, and me went to see them with > a bunch of other friends and they did not disappoint. They played > tunes like yes just for you D-Man " the digital man" Natural science,
Man, you're just too cool. Beer's on me next time I'm home. :)
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> From: Alan Estrada <al766074@academ01.mty.itesm.mx> > Subject: Hello Again (Was YTSEJAM digest 1454) > > Does anyone of you know if Kevin Moore is going to sell his material soon?
Yes, someone does.
> Does anyone of you know what relation has Kevin Moore with Tori Amos?
Yes.
> Does anyone of you know when DT is going to release the New album?
Yup.
> Does anyone of you know if DT is coming to Mexico?
No.
> Does anyone of you know if there are DT screensavers?
Sure, someone knows.
> When are the chat evenings?
When *aren't* they? Every night, man!
> I know there is an IRC channel called #dream is that the channel of Dream > Theater?
No.
> PLease tell me all about IRC, because I'm new in the IRC world
/server irc.dreamt.org 2112 /join #ytsejam
> and one last thing, who has the UUdecode program?, please send it to me via > email, ok?
Sure. I'll UUencode it and send it along. :)
------------------------------------------------------------------------ \|/ ____ \|/ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ "@'/ ,. \`@" cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" /_| \__/ |_\ d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ \__U_/ http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 15:55:12 +0000 From: blane@nla.gov.au To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: WARNING Message-ID: <199604220602.QAA23770@email.nla.gov.au>
Jammers be warned.
FYI ----------
To all those who use the PK compression/decompression tools:
*** DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY FILE NAMED PKZIP300 REGARDLESS OF THE EXTENSION!!!
WARNING!!!!! Read the following and take note for those of you who access the web and ftp sites. . . BEWARE!!! Notify your friends and family!!! You don't want to deal with anything like this what-so-ever!!!
A NEW Trojan Horse Virus has emerged on the internet with the name PKZIP300.ZIP, so named as to give the impression that this file is a new version of the PKZIP software used to "ZIP" (compress) files.
DO NOT DOWNLOAD this file under any circumstances!!! If you install or expand this file, the virus WILL wipe your hard disk clean and affect modems at 14.4 and higher. This is an extremely destructive virus and there is NOT yet a way of cleaning up this one.
Brett: ytse-oz.
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 02:34:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "Andrew Keith Garinger" <garinger@pilot.msu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: My Dying Bride Message-ID: <199604220634.CAA52666@pilot14.cl.msu.edu>
I saw MDB mentioned awhile ago on the 'Jam and read a good review of them, so I picked up Angel and the Dark River. I just want to know how that might compare with Trinity from anyone who has heard both.
Later, Andrew
-- garinger@pilot.msu.edu Zeta Beta Tau-Beta Epsilon Chapter "Ynos" 1996 Greek Week 2nd Place overall (ZBT, Sigma Delta Tau, and Phi Sigma Phi) --- Have boots. Will dub. Subcon, AD, WDATU, (coming soon) Ant., SFAM, & PT!
"The problem with most peoples musical taste isn't that the music sucks. It's that most people don't have their OWN musical taste. They allow it to be dictated to them by the media and pop culture. Make your favorite band one that noone has ever heard of and let everyone know how cool they are. That's the only way to improve the flaccid music industry." --- Me
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 16:38:11 +0000 From: blane@nla.gov.au To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1453 Message-ID: <199604220645.QAA16352@email.nla.gov.au>
>Just wondering how many other CIS majors are out there? Or at least people >taking programming classes. It would be cool (if we all had time) to do a >better DT multimedia prmo program than the one that EastWest did. We >probably have the talent. As for me, I was up all last night working on my >Operating Systems class, implementing locks and condition variables to >protect shared resources between multiple threads. Not too hard, all in all.
I have a CS major and and IS major but I hate the crap and would much prefer to play bass until doomsday *sigh*. Sorry, f#$@ing bad day at work, been on a weeks study leave and now I'm back in hell. Kewl idea tho Chris as long as its maintained and kept up to date. People won't use if its out-dated in 6 months.
Brett: ytse-oz, where beer and babes unite.
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 02:47:12 -0400 From: Gerardo Munoz <jmunoz@data.net.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: asdf (WWW generated email) Message-ID: <199604220647.CAA06685@nermal.catt.ncsu.edu>
SUSCRIBE YTSEJAM (Gerardo Munoz)
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 12:23:32 +0200 From: Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Label offers Message-ID: <9604221023.AA11346@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
Hi jammys!
I have heard some BIG, freakin' news from our production management!!
We (SUPERIOR) have some first offers from record labels in Germany and Japan (!) who are VERY interested in distributing our CD 'Behind'!
YEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
This Monday is a good one. :)
Sorry. Just wanted you to have fun with me. :)
Bye.
Bernd.
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 08:43:39 -0500 (EST) From: babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Red Hot Chili Peppers Message-ID: <v01510102ada0f629e47a@[137.238.26.12]>
>..I'm watching MTV last night (ytse-sin), and their airing some RHCP >(Red Hot Pschilley Peppers--that's how you spell it, right?) backstage >concert thing. So I'm like tuning in and out, and there was this part >where they were showing the fans and the vendors and stuff, and standing >on line for a hot dog is none other than Mike Portnoy.
Hello everyone, it's BABS. I saw this too and wondered the same thing , but I didn't follow it to closely - I was too busy checking out Dave Navarro and hoping to sneak a peak at his nipple rings. I could also kick myself for not taping it. If it's any consulation MTV has a bad habit of reruning things a hundred times, so chances are we'll eventually get an answer...
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 09:40:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Alternative Bands Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960422093359.18277E-100000@bdmserver>
That Merlo guy posted that the more cds you sell, the better musicians you must be.
I guess that means he thinks DT sucks and have no talent since they will never come close to outselling the likes of Green Day (all songs sound the same) and others...
The main jist of my post was that since most people on the Jam are into progressive/close to progressive music, then they need to go out and support these bands. So go see Kansas/Styx and Boston/Cheap Trick.
Metal/hard rock groups also need to be supported. If there is no support then mainstream alternative will be the only thing left.
Think about it, how many metal/hard rock bands are touring this summer? KISS, is about all I can think of...
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | |=======================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| |The Baltimore Orioles-The team to beat in 1996!!!!!!! | Go DC United! | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 09:47:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Tori Amos Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960422094426.18277F-100000@bdmserver>
Have any jammers seen Tori Amos on her current tour?
I am just wondering what to expect. I've never seen her. I am not sure how much of a fan I am of her. (My fiancee is taking me).
Will any jammers be at the DC show (2nd of 3) on Saturday the 27th?
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | |=======================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| |The Baltimore Orioles-The team to beat in 1996!!!!!!! | Go DC United! | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
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