YTSEJAM Digest 1462
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/21/96 - 15:03:05" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1461
by John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
3) WDATU+Keybpoards
by "James Wiseman (Mr Who?)" <ma5jw@bath.ac.uk>
4) Itchy's Most Frequent Endings top-6
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
5) About those cool dreamt.org addresses
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
6) Florida Ytsejammers
by mawyatt@ix.netcom.com (Michael A. Wyatt )
7) The Concert
by FDDC08F@prodigy.com (MR FRANK A CLARK)
8) Funny Story
by FDDC08F@prodigy.com (MR FRANK A CLARK)
9) question
by gehrig4@seacoast.com (Robert Rivers)
10) rebellion (fight the war, fuck the norm)
by ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
11) My Kawaii GIJoe:)
by ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
12) Review of PW show
by FNGX01A@prodigy.com (MR JOHN CAHILLJR)
13) The places you'll meet jammers ....
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
14) a few notes of importance
by Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com>
15) Hello Again (Was YTSEJAM digest 1454)
by Alan Estrada <al766074@academ01.mty.itesm.mx>
16) Ya ma? Ha!
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
17) Dave Matthews Question
by rtgood@students.wisc.edu (Ryan T. Good)
18) Re: Dave Matthews Question (No DTC)
by Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu>
19) StB echolyn (little DT content)
by Andrew Miller <andym@wicked.stigmata.org>
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 10:01:47 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/21/96 - 15:03:05" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199604211401.HAA06434@mindcrime.ax.com>
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 11:00:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: John McCabe <caber1@cris.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1461
Message-ID: <199604211500.LAA12521@darius.cris.com>
>Date: Sat, 20 Apr 96 20:26:19 EDT
>From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1458
>Message-ID: <9604210026.AA17125@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
>
>Warren? My name was mentioned in your list of idiots and assholes. So, which
>one am I? An idiot or an asshole. I want you to clarify this for me, because
>it is very important. I want to know what I should put on my business cards.
Maybe Warren should make a new list for FREAKS WITH BUSINESS CARDS!
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 16:15:59 +0100 (BST)
From: "James Wiseman (Mr Who?)" <ma5jw@bath.ac.uk>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: WDATU+Keybpoards
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960421160958.8265C-100000@slc-10>
I was under the impression that WDATU was "Today" not "Time" and the
person who put that was wrong. If in doubt check it out on the Lifting
Shadows web page as Mike has his CD updates there.
Also, I noticed someone mentioning a YAMAHA PSR-150. I assume this
is a earlier version of the PSR-310 which I have got. They do have their
limitations but are really good.
Rudy, does yours have the silly sound effects?
Finally, I hope I didn't miss much these last 4 weeks as I had no
time to read through all the jams. Someone fill me in if there is
anything really worth knowing.
All the best
Jimbobaroony The Funky Beer Monster.
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 17:24:30 +-200
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'ItchySpam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Itchy's Most Frequent Endings top-6
Message-ID: <01BB2FA7.F81FD420@ppp131.GlobalXS.nl>
Hi Fellow-Jammers !
Now my program can also count endings! Here's the result from
digests 1165 - 1459 (nov. 24th '95 - now)...
MFE | MFP | Name | Ends | Posts
----+-----+--------------------------------+------+------
1 | 5 | Steve Borzilleri - Bafu Vai !! | 21 | 95
2 | 4 | Ben Laussade | 11 | 113
3 | 12 | Mike Bahr | 8 | 49
4 | 20 | Marc Respass | 6 | 36
| 2 | DreamNDay | 6 | 178
5 | 38 | Marcel Berkhout | 5 | 16
| 9 | Ernesto Schnack | 5 | 56
| 26 | Mark Smeets | 5 | 30
6 | 11 | Chris Oates | 4 | 50
| 15 | Zack Gemmill | 4 | 45
| 36 | Scotch | 4 | 18
| 16 | Gilbert Jack Thetgyi | 4 | 43
| 3 | Damon M. Fibraio | 4 | 135
| 7 | The Digital Man | 4 | 67
| 18 | RipZero | 4 | 41
| 34 | Jonathan Byrne | 4 | 20
| 21 | Dave / Buster | 4 | 35
Congratulations Bafu ! You must be the luckiest sonavabitch
on the Jam... 95 posts -> 21 endings. Two out of every nine
Bafu-posts end up at the end of the Jam... How do U do that?
My program can now generate:
* Most frequent posters lists
* Most frequent endings lists
* Domainlists with the # of people in it + total # of posts
(either sorted on # of people or # of posts)
Any suggestions for other lists ? :-)
Hasta Luego... Pasta & Legos,
Itchy (NOT Bitchy)
Mark Bredius, Bredius@GlobalXS.nl - Itchy@dreamt.org
_________________________________________________________________/\_____
I think I have become one of the hollow men / \
As I shine on the outside more these days MARILLION / \
I can feel the outside feeding on my inside THE HOLLOW MAN C" D \
'Leaves a growing darkness in its place BRAVE ()-( ) \
____________________________________________________________/ ~ \
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 17:25:19 +-200
From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
To: "'ItchySpam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: About those cool dreamt.org addresses
Message-ID: <01BB2FA8.07C542C0@ppp131.GlobalXS.nl>
I too got a cool dreamt.org address, recently (Thanks Skadz!)...
Now I'd like to send messages from it, but I don't know how.
Does anyone know how to go about that, using Microsoft Exchange
(Windows '95) ? I won't be using it to post the jam, however,
'cause that'll ruin my chances of ever making it to the MFP top-10 ;-)
(I'm nr. 49 with 5 posts, hehe!)
Hasta Luego... Pasta & Legos,
Itchy (NOT Bitchy)
Mark Bredius, Bredius@GlobalXS.nl - Itchy@dreamt.org
__________________________________________________________________/\____
When you list all the qualities that you despise / \
And you realise... You're describing yourself C" D\
(Marillion - The Rakes Progress, Holidays In Eden) ()-( )\
______________________________________________________________/ ~ \
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 09:15:46 -0700
From: mawyatt@ix.netcom.com (Michael A. Wyatt )
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Florida Ytsejammers
Message-ID: <199604211615.JAA13179@dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com>
Well - I am a reader of the jam in Florida, I post rarely though. Where
in Florida are you from? Ok later, JG.
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 12:56:45 EDT
From: FDDC08F@prodigy.com (MR FRANK A CLARK)
To: YTSEJAM@ax.com
Subject: The Concert
Message-ID: <097.06502738.FDDC08F@prodigy.com>
-- [ From: Frank Clark * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --
Hey jammers, have you heard who got back together and are going on
tour. Styxs and Kansas have gotten back together. Can you Fuckin'
believe it. I can't. I would love to go to one of these concerts.
Not as much as a DT concert of course. But I would love it. . .
Later dudes,
and Dudettes,
The Joker. . .
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 12:56:37 EDT
From: FDDC08F@prodigy.com (MR FRANK A CLARK)
To: YTSEJAM@ax.com
Subject: Funny Story
Message-ID: <097.06502742.FDDC08F@prodigy.com>
-- [ From: Frank Clark * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --
Anna,
People like that should just be shot. Putting down a great band
like Rush and turning it into a piece of shit by adding the name
Limbaugh. They really should all be shot. . .
The Joker
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 12:57:52 -0400
From: gehrig4@seacoast.com (Robert Rivers)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: question
Message-ID: <199604211657.MAA12082@worf.worx.net>
How do you get a message posted on the digest? I would
appreciate any help you could give me . thanks
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 14:04:33 -0400
From: ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: rebellion (fight the war, fuck the norm)
Message-ID: <19960421180431.AAA11423@mail.pananet.com>
>As I see it, an underlying problem people have with DT (and prog in
>general, but let's not go there) is that there's no element of rebellion.
Here's an example of rebellion coming from DT: "I understand mine's a risky
plan and your system can't miss, but is security after all a cause or
symptom of happiness?"
I can't think of any other examples, if there are any, but I think that if
DT is gonna portray rebellion, they'll do it in a more sophisticated way.
can you imagine JLB singing "knee-down in the system's shit" :)
Then again, don't you think DT and prog bands are the truly rebellious ones
since they are going against the alternative trends by being skilled at
their instruments and writing long complex songs? Just a thought. As Scott
Ian says, MTV is giving today's kids a 'packaged rebellion' w/ this whole
alternative thing.
Just a thought:)
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"No contaban con mi astucia!"
Ernie
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 14:04:26 -0400
From: ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: My Kawaii GIJoe:)
Message-ID: <19960421180425.AAA11418@mail.pananet.com>
>From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1450
>Message-ID: <9604190705.AA27529@hawkmail.monmouth.edu>
>
>I hate to say this, but if a keyboard has a demo button, it's a toy. If it
>has built in speakers as opposed to outputs only for an amplifier, it's a
>toy. If it only has a pitch wheel and not anything else, like a mod wheel,
>.. well, ... if it is not velocity sensitive, minus analog synths, ... toy.
>If it costs less than $500, it is most definitely a toy. And if it sounds
>like crap, it doesn't belong in thesame category as a Roland.
>
I didn't say it *was* in the same category as Roland. I just said that for
the price I was rather impressed. Whenever I have a couple thousand bucks
lying around I will be glad (VERY glad) to buy a 'real' synthesizer. But
for now that's all I can afford, and as long as I can make music w/ it, I'm
content.
Oh, and BTW, it *is* velocity sensitive...
>This brings me to a good question. why do some cheap toys called Casio
>keyboards actually have the gall to put MIDI ports on the back of their cheap
>plastic boxes?
I got mine simply to use it w/ my computer. Again, I couldn't afford
anything better, so that's what I'm stuck w/. I mean if those 'toys' just
came w/ there shitty sounds, and lame drum beats, I wouldn't even bother w/
them.
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"No contaban con mi astucia!"
Ernie
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 14:18:05 EDT
From: FNGX01A@prodigy.com (MR JOHN CAHILLJR)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Review of PW show
Message-ID: <096.06507162.FNGX01A@prodigy.com>
This one is for all interested who mailed me.
Wow!!!!!! What a show. Mojoman, Its, and me went to see them with
a bunch of other friends and they did not disappoint. They played
tunes like yes just for you D-Man " the digital man" Natural science,
Afterimage, Fly by night, By tor, The Camera eye and other classics.
They played two long sets and one hell of a drum solo. Sorry you
couldn't make it Wedge, and Damon. If you live in NYC, L.I. or N.J.
and you like Rush, keep your eyes and ears peeled for upcoming dates.
Mojoman,and Its, what do you think that guy was on?
Elen sila lumenn omentilmo, Gandalf
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 14:28:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The places you'll meet jammers ....
Message-ID: <199604211828.OAA04991@wicked.stigmata.org>
Hey all ....
Was at a party last night with my Goth/Industrial Friends
and I'm sitting on the floor by the door and in walks a guy with
a ytsejam shirt :) Very very wierd :)
Just wanted to mention that
Skadz
-- +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ | Ryan P Skadberg skadz@bluesky.net | | System Administrator / Web Developer Blue Sky, Inc. | | http://www.bluesky.net/skadz/ http://www.dreamt.org/ | +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ | "'Seize the Day', I heard him say, Life will not always be this way" | +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+------------------------------
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 13:49:34 -0700 (MST) From: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: durnik@indirect.com Subject: a few notes of importance Message-ID: <199604212049.NAA17948@bud.indirect.com>
OK, just a few pieces of news to share with all of you.
I just got confirmation on DT's album producer: there is none. Yet. This is just in the effort of "rumour control". They have indeed contacted Peter Collins, nothing solid on whether he'll produce is known yet, even to them. They're just cutting demos. Those Jammers in Europe who go to Mike and John's drum and guitar clinics have already heard Raise the Knife and Carnival of Clams (working title) and they're pretty interesting so far.
Once again, just to re-iterate in case anyone missed the last Jam, James and Karen LaBrie have a 6lb, 10oz baby girl named Chloe Nadia keeping them busy these days. She was both 4/10/96... hmmm, April 10th, just 20 days before my own birthday. She's in good company. :) Many congrats from the Jam.
Mr. Anthony Ferrari, please try to contact me voice if you can, at 602-777-0501. All my e-mail replies to you bounce undelivered, and I'm tired of getting repeated mails from you insisting that I'm refusing to reply!!
WDADU vs. WDATU. I've been watching this thread, sort of wondering where I ought to jump in, and I 'd better do that now, to stave off confusion. WDADU was DT's first album, with Charlie on vocals. WDATU is a special CD I put together last winter that features the same songs performed live with James LaBrie at the helm. Check out the Lifting Shadows website or e-mail me personally for a CD update on what's on all of them and how to get 'em. WDATU is still available in limited quantities.
Final note: I've sold three "cases" of special limited edition CDs, and I'm going to break down the remaining cases into tens, so that people who just want to buy for a few friends can do so. Again, there is a discount on each CD worked into the price here. I can help you if you'd like to re-sell my CD in your local area with these cases that discount the buying price. Here's what I have:
Case assortment "D" - 2 Available - $200
When Dream And Today Unite x 3 Antiquities x 2 Cygnus x 4 Acoustic Dreams x 1
Case assortment "E" - 2 Available - $175
When Dream And Today Unite x 4 Antiquities x 2 Cygnus x 4
Sorry, but the Subconscious case, one of the AD cases, and one of the regular ones from before have been sold. I bought another AD to include within the second AD case here. So what I have available is what you see above.
Oh yes, a clarification: the members of the list will ALWAYS have the first opportunity to buy my released CDs, over the course of a few months, before I put together cases. I can barely sell any cases with AQ in them, because of the limited quantity remaining.
Take care all!
MTFBWY! Mike Bahr, durnik@indirect.com/mikebahr@dreamt.org
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 16:28:25 -0600 From: Alan Estrada <al766074@academ01.mty.itesm.mx> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Hello Again (Was YTSEJAM digest 1454) Message-ID: <199604212228.QAA160369@academ01.mty.itesm.mx>
Hi, I'm on final exams, I haven't read a lot of issues, so if you're going to answer to something I'm gonna write please Email me personally... Well, here are my questions... Does anyone of you know if Kevin Moore is going to sell his material soon? I read some of his lyrics and I liked them a lot, I think they're going to kick ass... Does anyone of you know what relation has Kevin Moore with Tori Amos? I think I read about a song from Kevin to Tori and another version from Tori to Kevin... Does anyone of you know when DT is going to release the New album? Does anyone of you know if DT is coming to Mexico? Does anyone of you know if there are DT screensavers? When are the chat evenings? I know there is an IRC channel called #dream is that the channel of Dream Theater? PLease tell me all about IRC, because I'm new in the IRC world I have the program they did to promote the "Awake" album...
Please reply, if you want send it to the list but I need a Personal email because I don't have to read the issue always...I will apreciatte that...
and one last thing, who has the UUdecode program?, please send it to me via email, ok?
Thanks a lot.
Stay cool... at least somebody's cool as you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ___ _ ! Alan Estrada Adler ! / | | | ! ! | | | | __ _ _ !al766074@academ01.mty.itesm.mx! | | |/ / | / |/ | ! ! \__/\_/|__/\_/|_/ | |_/ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 16:30:36 -0700 From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ya ma? Ha! Message-ID: <199604212330.QAA18724@maple.enet.net>
>Oh yeah, there is this discussion about keyboards and stuff. Throw away >your Korg's your Casio's and your whatever's. Try this: The YAMAHA = >PSR-150 >which is the absomuthafknlutely greatest keyboard of 'em all. Absolutely = >NO >volume sliding, static samples and well .... -20- demosongs and also >(I haven't seen features like this anywhere else) ..... -20- JAM tracks = >.. hahaha >you can actually 'jam' with this thing. I bet Derek makes use of this = >baby!
/me has a PSR-300. According to Damon it's crap. I guess you and me are in the "Owns a crappy keyboard but doesn't care" club. :-)
Hm....wanna try something neat? A nifty little project...I call it:
"The Really Good Band That Has Never Met In Person"
Could be interesting. Was going to be "Four Guys and Charone <grin> Writing Metropolis Pt. 2 Over the Internet", but the guitarist (ERNIE, you bastard! :-) is leaving for Germany. So, Mr. Bahr? Mr. Barker? Ms. Frankel? Mr. Nonexistent Keyboard Player (hint hint clue clue)? Wanna have some FUN?! :-)
Dave Matthews Band is absolutely amazing. I'm not talking about the music...I mean, have you SEEN that cool thing that Dave does with his feet while he's singing and playing guitar? Wow. ;-)
YNMF!!!!!! :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) Favorite Song(s) of the Week: My last name. Mr. Cool of Lal
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 18:36:41 -0500 From: rtgood@students.wisc.edu (Ryan T. Good) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Dave Matthews Question Message-ID: <199604212336.SAA32671@audumla.students.wisc.edu>
Hey all fans of all music from all over- Who knows when Dave Matthews Band's new disc, "Crash" comes out? Is it this Tuesday, or next Tuesday? Thanks in advance. If you wish, go ahead and e-mail me privately!
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 20:07:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Gilbert Jack Thetgyi <thetgyi@bgnet.bgsu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Dave Matthews Question (No DTC) Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9604211931.A6439-0100000@bgnet1.bgsu.edu>
On Sun, 21 Apr 1996, Ryan T. Good wrote:
> Hey all fans of all music from all over- > Who knows when Dave Matthews Band's new disc, "Crash" comes out? Is it > this Tuesday, or next Tuesday? Thanks in advance. If you wish, go ahead > and e-mail me privately!
"Crash" is scheduled for an April 30 release. There is a concert/release party on Tuesday, April 30th in Richmond, VA at The Classic Amphitheatre: however, tickets went on sale Saturday, April 6th.
Sincerely,
G. Jack Thetgyi ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "From the bottom of my heart, I say, 'God Bless David Letterman'" -Mujibur Rahman "Any movie with wakka-cha-wakka in it is okay by me." -Tom Servo, Mystery Science Theater 3000 #512: "Mitchell" -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 22:23:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Miller <andym@wicked.stigmata.org> To: YTSEJAM digest <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: StB echolyn (little DT content) Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960421220958.8592A-100000@wicked.stigmata.org>
I got my StB from CdTreasures when I went home over the weekend. At first I was like I don't know about this, but when I put it in the disc player my mind was set to ease. That cd is soooooo good, it's great to have finally updated that tape Brett gave me last summer (I can't say that enough I love it when you interact with neat people).
I was think about the cd itself. And I know most of you don't care but it is a cd by a band who has very little money, as opposed to DT who lives comfortably without having to work other jobs. I was thinking, "Hey echolyn is getting no money from this cd and this guy is selling a ton of them". But I kind of put my thoughts to ease when I relzied echolyn would want the cd to be out there and that there is nothing they can do to get it out there because SONY (the assholes) have the rights to the cd (as well as 'debut'). So I guess I can look at it in the way that SONY isn't making any money off of this either, so that may be a good thing.
The kicker in this thig with me getting my StB cd this weekend is that I have the case here at school with me now, and I left this cd at home in my sister's cd player, talk about sucking. :(
**DT Content** The RHCP thing, I know Mike didn't say in that video anything about them being this major influence. He did admire the grafitti, as well as the band. But if your looking at that part of the tape he was talking about the Beatles being this major part of his life. And of course if you watch more of the tape you get to seea huge influence of his ALAN WHITE!! Sorry. :)
**Yes Content** Jon Anderson will be on QVC on Monday, when I don't know, for what, to promote some enivormental cd. Check it out.
later... thought welcome on the echolyn thing...
oh yeah,
Anybody every fine it really strange about 'Suite' being about selling out,'selling just for the sake of sales', 'selling to those who want to buy', and in a way condeming all of this, but in effect when echolyn singed to SONY thats what they did. It kind of spooked me out, thoughts?
later -- ANDY
Andrew Miller Real people get mail from my other account, andym@dreamt.org only there will you see the true signatures --or-- of Andy Miller. Thanks go out to Ryan, for ytsejam@Udel.Edu without him this .sig would not be possible.
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