YTSEJAM Digest 1460
Today's Topics:
1) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1458
by WarrenDW@aol.com
2) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/20/96 - 18:10:13" <response@ibmmail.com>
3) Re: Overkill (NDTC)
by KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
4) YtseDouble Entendres and such
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
5) Re: Idiots and such...
by Adam Pye <alpine@negia.net>
6) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1459
by subtlerage@gnn.com (Andrew Miller)
7) Doom
by swanson@henge.com (Sheila Swanson)
8) DutchJammer top-7 & other NDTC-crap, Sorry
by Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl>
9) blah
by al682@osfn.rhilinet.gov (Dan Abosso)
10) I know! I know!
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1458
by Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu>
12) Friday was one of the shittiest days of my life..
by John Hough <srvrip@qualcomm.com>
13) Some people/
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 12:48:52 -0400
From: WarrenDW@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1458
Message-ID: <960420124852_379129937@emout10.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 96-04-20 12:38:17 EDT, you write:
<< Subj: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1458
Date: 96-04-20 12:38:17 EDT
From: WarrenDW
To: ytsejam@ax.com
In a message dated 96-04-19 18:42:49 EDT, you write:
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>Ah, well, everybody _ELSE_ on this list seems friendly (thanks, folks!)
>
>
Jeff....eat shit!! :)> we are not friendly...especially the fucking idiots
and assholes. Hi Ben, Damon, Mark M, BABS, mom........... >>
I did not mean to imply that the people I said hi to were part of the
aforementioned group. Note that I included mom.
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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 13:08:56 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/20/96 - 18:10:13" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 17:17:05 GMT
From: KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Overkill (NDTC)
Message-ID: <199604201717.RAA06482@pipe14.h1.usa.pipeline.com>
On Apr 20, 1996 09:47:40, 'Rudy' wrote:
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>Hey guys,
>
>In one of the last digests there was a guy summing up all Overkill albums.
>Now I have an album called Taking Over, which has classics on it like
>Electro-Violence and In Union We Stand. Is that album named differently
>in the U.S.? Cos I didn't find that title in that guy's list (sorry man,
lost
>your
>name ...what is this mailing list all about???)
I didn't mention the first two (Taking Over and Feel the Fire) because
I don't have them. I wouldn't want to offer an opinion on something I
have never heard. As for what this mailing list is about...that's a good
question.
I think it's supposed to be about Dream Theater but usually (ok, half the
time)
ends up being about related or unrelated musical (or philosophical) topics.
That is a good thing.
-- Kevin (kwmadden@usa.pipeline.com) GO WINGS!!! 2 Down...14 to go. Jets run out of fuel...Sunday------------------------------
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 13:38:50 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: YtseDouble Entendres and such Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9604201347.B5788-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
> From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Top Ten End-Of-Ytsejam > > This was kind of strange. I'm not going to put people as "tied for third,"
Especially since it was the *first* post of a Jam!
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> From: "'THE HAND...' R. Ananda" <spod@u.washington.edu> > Subject: Blueberry Muffins vs. AWAKE > > When Awake came out, I had no idea that it (or this forum) existed. > All I owned was Images. While out smoking with my housemates a > girl walks by our house and starts talking to us. She had > just gotten off of work at Wherehouse and was carrying a CD and > mentioned that she was hungry. She showed me the CD and it was > one of those "For Promotional Use Only: Must Be Returned on > Demand of the Record Company" CD's. She didn't like the disc > at all, having heard it in the store while working and offered > to _GIVE_ it to me in return for two of my blueberry muffins. > > I am certain that I got the better deal. But they were DAMN good > muffins...
Yeah, but how were the blueberry muffins? ;)
"A dirty mind is a terrible thing to waste." -D-Man
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 14:08:10 -0400 From: Adam Pye <alpine@negia.net> To: D-Man <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Re: Idiots and such... Message-ID: <199604201807.OAA05382@peach.negia.net>
>> 99% of Alternative bands have no talent whatsoever. The above bands do have >> talent and it will be great to see them in concert. > >Oh, for God's sake, stop this already. If you have so much more talent >than these alternative bands, how come no one's shelling out $16 for >*your* cd's?
I'd agree that his "99%" statement was a bit overboard, but if you're implying that the most talented bands sell the most records than by far the most talented band in the past 2 years is Hootie and the Blowfish <cringe>. Though I doubt you're implying that so I'll go away now. :)
Adam alpine@negia.net
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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 13:23:50 From: subtlerage@gnn.com (Andrew Miller) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1459 Message-ID: <199604201820.OAA26492@mail-e2b-service.gnn.com>
>Date: Fri, 19 Apr 96 21:55:24 EDT >From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1456 >Message-ID: <9604200155.AA19689@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> > > But leave my Roland alone. You > cannot pick >on my Roland. I used to be a Roland basher because I heard their > cheaper >synths. Then, I heard the XP50 and it's Hammond B3 sounds and I cou >ldn't
yeah, yeah, it's all in fun. you know that..,.
>in the company yet, but, I have heard the PC88, and to me, it's > just a piano that you can move a little bit easier that happens to > double up as > a controller for other synths. Wow.
actually, i've got the mx model which has a general midi bank installed. it's got all the cool sounds of your standard workstation and it works killer with my Korg 01/Wfd.
>I got a sequencer, thousands of great sounds, and ... well, ... >effects to go with them. I don't know what else you use in your >setup, but ... I only have tow keyboards, love them,
ditto. well, actually i have two analog synths, but i don't use 'em much.
>They are definitely not toys, for $2000 each, they'd better not be.
the only thing that matters is what YOU think of them.
>Oh, well, to each his own. I know you were kidding, so don't email > me back saying, "I'm sorry, I was only kidding, lighten up, you >asshole."
me? sorry? HAHAHAHA! i really don't know ya well enough to determine if you're an asshole or not. you just seem to be a hard headed keyboardist, like myself. :)
>Am I an obnoxious fuck? >You bet your ass I am.
:):):):) i like my ass right where it's at. and i'm not much of a betting man.........
seeya Andrew ============================================= Andrew Miller/SubtleRage SubtleRage@gnn.com millera@chop.isca.uiowa.edu http://members.gnn.com/subtlerage/index.html =============================================
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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 12:36:03 -0600 From: swanson@henge.com (Sheila Swanson) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Doom Message-ID: <199604201836.MAA24709@henge.com>
I just got done reading 250,000,000 jams. I am such a slaker.
I am on my way to check out the doom dt level. Here are some ideas for other levels.
1. Portnoy chases Prater through the dark halls of hell. You must kill him and his invincible army of drum triggers. 2. Find the real Petrucci. Imposters are running free. Detect slight flaws in the solos and kill the imposters. 3. 5 words. Kevin Moore wants back in. 4. Wade your way through a hellish sea of unread ytsejams and try to come out without eye fatigue. 5. Convert your worst enemies into loyal and brainwashed ytsejammers.
later, Cory
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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 14:06:53 +-200 From: Mark Bredius <bredius@globalxs.nl> To: "'ItchySpam'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: DutchJammer top-7 & other NDTC-crap, Sorry Message-ID: <01BB2EF8.EA69F400@ppp158.GlobalXS.nl>
Hi guys,
sorry to bother you with NDTC-crap. If you expect any DTC, please skip to the next message...or the next one...or... Well... you get the point :-)
A couple of digests ago I managed to actually sneak in some DTC (samples on 'The Mirror') but no one replied, confirmed, or said anything about it. I'm not bitter, though... just a bit disappointed... :-| Maybe people were shocked to actually read about a DT-song on this list...
Rudy van IJzendoorn said: > I was wondering if I'm the first Dutch guy ever to write in this newslist.
Nope, I've been here since november '95 and have posted a couple of times. I'm also on the #Ytsenet about every night, around 12am CET (for most US-jammers that's 6pm). I'm that 'Most Frequent Poster'-dude, Itchy !!!
Ok, here's another list. This time it's the DutchJammer top-7 ! (This 1's 4 U, Rudy!). The 'ALL' column indicates where 'we' (Dutchies) are on the big MFP-list... Again, I used all the digests I have, to compile this list: 1165-1457 (= 4 1/2 months). 58 messages were sent from The Netherlands by 12 people.
ALL E-mail address Posts ---------------------------------------------- 1. (37) v932407@si.hhs.nl (16) 2. (41) r.c.karsmakers@stud.let.ruu.nl (12) 3. (48) aurora@wirehub.nl (5) (48) bredius@globalxs.nl (5) (48) part@dutccia.tudelft.nl (5) 4. (49) xanadu@nik.publishnet.nl (4) 5. (50) CTIRABAS@estec.esa.nl (3) (50) wbg@GESASDSC.NT.GETRONICS.NL (3) 6. (51) WBG@suppcent.ges.getronics.nl (2) 7. (52) H.B.Hulsegge@rcondw.RUG.NL (1) (52) decherin@xs4all.nl (1) (52) rudy.van.ijzendoorn@tip.nl (1)
Those 'getronics' guys are probably just one & the same. So he should be at nr. 3 (just like me) with 5 posts. Of course, this is already my 6th post !
BTW, 'Response@ibmmail.com' is at nr. 1 with 196 posts. DreamNDay@aol.com is stuck at nr 2. with 'just' 178 messages. s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu is the third runner up with 130 messages... Maybe you could make it to nr. 2 if you post 48 messages before Brian returns to the Jam...
Personally, I hope you won't pull a "Cleary" on us...
BTW, Corey (E. Cleary), you're at 32 with 22 messages... I don't want to rain on your parade, but you're not gonna make it to the top of the list ! Please, don't even try... don't even reply to this message, at least not on the Jam... (mail me priv. if you have to)
/Nick BItchy BItchy> hehe!
The main reason I posted my little top-10 in the first place, was to let the people on that list know that *maybe* they post too often. Maybe they could combine those messages or JUST SAY NO TO NDTC. (that reminds me, I'll have to come up with some DTC for this post...damn...oh well...). I hate to think that people are actually trying to get on my MFP-list on purpose. It's NO FUCKING contest. Just like 'Berkeley is NO FUCKING GUARANTEE' ! (with Elizabeth Berkeley, OTOH, fucking *IS* guaranteed, hehe!)
Itchy> Yeah, Rip, that's my 1-track mind acting up again...
OK, back to Rudy > why does everyone always use these non-understandable > abbreviations for bands and albums?
Ppl use abbrev. 'cause they don't 1-2 type D whole darn thing !
/Nick Itchy * Itchy is kidding (not bitching)
> yeh, yeh, I know all those DT abbreviations
So what's the prob. ? Isn't DT the only thing we talk about here? Or was it the only thing we didn't talk about...don't remember...
/nick BItchy ;-)
> ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB2D8D.3878CC60 > Content-Type: application/ms-tnef > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > > ...cut...the...crap......cut...the...crap > ......cut...the.....crap....cut...the....
What's that all about ? I've seen that before... What's it doing in those messages... More important, how can we get rid of it...?
Ok, now for some DT content... damn...don't have any... Sorry guys... Now I feel real bad... But, then again... I always feel bad... and *Itchy*... oh well...
I hope *anyone* liked reading this message. /kick #Ytsejam Itchy "Sorry 'bout wasting 2 much bandwith"
Hasta Luego... Pasta & Lego
Mark Bredius Itchy (sometimes BItchy) Bredius@GlobalXS.nl Itchy@dreamt.org Rotterdam, The Netherlands Itchy & Scratchy land ------------------------------------------------------------------ *Itchy is pissed no one replied to his 'The Mirror' message... *Itchy loves his 3 new Tori cd-singles (Winter, God & Cornflake..) *Itchy seems to like dots... a bit 2 much... hehe! *Itchy is very happy with his Itchy.dreamt.org address *Itchy thanks SKADZ from the heart of his bottom for that ! :-)
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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 14:42:51 -0400 From: al682@osfn.rhilinet.gov (Dan Abosso) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: blah Message-ID: <199604201842.AA17854@osfn.rhilinet.gov>
Hello, Again, I am posting this message just for the purpose of getting no god damn replies! Figures.. I post a message with some DT content, and NEVER get a reply... But if I post something lame or not relating to DT, I'd get a slew of messages.. So, enlighten me with your wisdom about petty crap, like what keyboards are "real" and what keyboards aren't.. (my personal opinion - anything that can make some sort of pleasing sound.. cheap or expensive, is an instrument.. be it a Roland or a Casio..) -- For the second time, let me waste time by posting this message... <insert message here> -- Message #18 (18 is last): Date: Sat Apr 20 13:18:56 1996 From: an577@osfn.rhilinet.gov (Jake Carter) Subject: Accounts,/etc/passwd file and Everything To: al682@osfn.rhilinet.gov Reply-To: an577@osfn.rhilinet.gov Okay. You won't give me the file but can you un lock its most desirable secrets such as the passwords to the freenet? Lock them out? If you wanted ever i could arange a little Computer Password Protection System... The freenet can;t log in from any port including port -0+ which in anycase (if you are a dummy is the main port mainframe) but since you don't want to give it to me the easy way i will just have to do it on my own and when i uncode it(using my OWN program which does it online called EPdecode.exe) i will change your password and fuck up your account real bad. anyway, all i want is the hacker crackdown and the passwd file Shown 85%, press <SPACE> for more, 'q' to quit, or 'h' for help if you perfer mailing it to me (e-mail) just do it or upload it. By the way you get me the file you are going to be very powerful or very weak. As I continue to ramble on.. I know I always ask about Dominici.. but I am intrigued by this man.. (gee, that sounded good..) I find that more often than not, I always have WDADU in the disc changer.. (btw - got my "One Way" copy of WDADU today.. cheap bastards didn't even put the lyrics in)... Anyways, does anyone know if there other recordings with him on it? I mean, other albums by other bands with him as the vocalist? Fellow Ytsejammers, enlighten me with your knowledge! (heh) Well.. now that I have wasted your time, I will end it here... The YtseLamer, Dan (btw - what's the status of IRC.DREAMT.ORG? I get ping timeouts all the time..) -- Also, what imports (if any) is C.D. on? .. Now, am I WORTHY enough to be in the YtseJam Hall of Idiots? heh heh heh
-- I'm witness to redemption heard you speak but never listened Can you rid me of my secrets? Deliver us from Darkness? - DT
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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 13:04:21 -0700 From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: I know! I know! Message-ID: <199604202004.NAA18082@maple.enet.net>
>Oh, for God's sake, stop this already. If you have so much more talent >than these alternative bands, how come no one's shelling out $16 for >*your* cd's?
Because if you have talent, that doesn't mean that you don't write shitty music. Alternative is catchy...32nd note scales are not.
>Hello, > > I was just wondering (please excuse the irrelevance of this post) >if anyone else thinks that when James comes to the part where he supposedly >says "Though disorder", it sounds more like "Fuck this whore"? Maybe >it's my own perverse mind.. heh.. Tell me if any of you think it sounds like >that..
Only a YtseJammer. Er...YtseJammers. Somebody should start a count of how many different times the same topic comes up.
>I am going to tell something about Portnoy.It also interests DT too. >I red an argument about Portnoy and his style of drums.IMHO the >important thing is how to figure out what he did on drums.Everyone >even I can play all of DT songs but as a musician DT makes the songs >as if they came like a message from God or something.It is not >important how Portnoy plays cymbals, snare drum or bass drums,or his >ability on drums,imagine who can make a song like him.I wanna know >any comments and ideas 'bout it.
What?
>Sorry, I don't want to be with your mailing list. Please unsubscribe me, >because I haven't time to check your stuff!
Go on...sniff...say it....you...you just don't love me anymore! WAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Jeff....eat shit!! :)> we are not friendly...especially the fucking idiots >and assholes. Hi Ben, Damon, Mark M, BABS, mom...........
*mom* Heeheeheehee. Hey Warren, fuck yoU!
Buhbye.
YNMF!!!!!! :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) Favorite Song(s) of the Week: My last name. Mr. Cool of Lal
Oh yes, now I too have a dreamt.org account. ytse-ben@dreamt.org :-)
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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 13:42:13 -0700 From: Chris Oates <aspect@cats.ucsc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1458 Message-ID: <199604202042.NAA21712@cats.ucsc.edu>
>Ok, while we're on the topic of keyboards, what do you guys think >a good 'pre-professional' keyboard would be? I've been thinking >of getting a nice quality keyboard I can use with my Roland SCC-1 >to try some composing/sequencing. Although it would be used >primarily for play, I would like to enjoy playing it for a long >time. I was thinking of a Roland A-30 keyboard controller for >~$500, as the 76 keys and GS support appeal to me. However I'd >be willing to go up to $1,000 for a keyboard with sounds that >complement the Sound Canvas. Any suggestions?
I'd stay away from the Roland A-30. Last time I checked, it did not have aftertouch! That's how Roland makes a $500 76 key board. You'd be much better off with a 61-key board for $1000 that had aftertouch. I'd say, as far as sound quality, key quality and controller quality, go for either a Roland or a Korg, because pitch/mod sticks are the thing! :) I feel that Korg had better hardware, but I prefer Roland sounds.
If you can afford $1500, go for the Roland JV-90. It's the cheapest 76-key fully-featured board I could find. (If you don't need a sequencer) I own one and love it. You can prolly get it for close to $1200 these days.
I assume that your SCC-1 is a Sound Canvas of some sort? (Sorry, not hip on all the General-MIDI stuff) Then, I'd recommend a Roland GM compatable keyboard to go with it, perhaps one of the GM boards (or for the cheap) the A-30 if you don't want aftertouch (but you do, trust me!) Roland has their own , proprietary extension to General MIDI, GX (?) (or maybe that's the GS you mention?) and so a Roland GM keyboard would interface most seamlessly. The JV-90 is not a GM keyboard (you can get a plug-in board that is, tho) -- another feature I like. ;) but it should interface as a controller well. My manual has flown the coop or I'd give you better specifics on the JV-90.
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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 14:30:09 -0700 From: John Hough <srvrip@qualcomm.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Friday was one of the shittiest days of my life.. Message-ID: <199604202130.OAA09182@tyler.qualcomm.com>
Why?
Some punk ass gang banging motherfuckers broke into my car and stole my cd deck and 32 of my cd's that were in a case under my seat!!!!!!!!!!!!! I normally take it out every night , but of course the one night I forget.....
And to top off the whole fucking thing, one of the discs in my case was my copy of "When Dream and Today Unite". Hopefully Mike has some more, and hopefully they catch those mfer's so I can break their fucking skulls in half. I am having a very bad day.
Sorry for wasting precious bandwidth, I just had to bitch to my fellow jammers.
John Hough - srvrip@qualcomm.com G O P A D R E S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! **************************************************** Record: W - 10 L - 6 1st Place
Tony Gwynn watch for 7th batting title: .472 avg (4-17-96) 1st place
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Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 15:34:38 -0700 From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Some people/ Message-ID: <199604202234.PAA21165@maple.enet.net>
>stop sending things to me... >how do i do it?
Well son.....it's like the birds and the bees....
YNMF!!!!!! :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) Favorite Song(s) of the Week: My last name. Mr. Cool of Lal
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