YTSEJAM Digest 1466
Today's Topics:
1) Stuff / Samples
by Brian Anderson <bda109@psu.edu>
2) Re: Ozzy
by borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
3) stuff as always
by WildKoba@aol.com
4) Lallapoluza Question?
by Ryan J Benedict <rbenedic@gac.edu>
5) An Addition to the counter
by "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
6) Lie & UK Releases
by Ryan J Benedict <rbenedic@gac.edu>
7) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/22/96 - 22:35:14" <response@ibmmail.com>
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1465
by Spirit in a Material World <slowhand@wam.umd.edu>
9) itchys dog, ozzy, some other stuff
by ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
10) Re: spaelingg?
by Sean T Gill <stg@csd.uwm.edu>
11) WDATU and NetCentral
by m_washke@acad.lvc.edu
12) That Daugherty guy (fwd)
by "Scott R. Daugherty" <srdaugz2@homer.louisville.edu>
13) Re: YTSEJAMDT keyboard tab?
by randrews@post.cis.smu.edu (Robert Paul Andrews)
14) ALICE ON TOUR?!
by ahs110@psu.edu (Amit Shah)
15) Re: Congratulations James!!
by NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@freenet.tlh.fl.us>
16) Argh!
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
17) Echolyn- Selling out?
by Mike Backof <mbacko1@umbc.edu>
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 16:33:08 -0400
From: Brian Anderson <bda109@psu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Stuff / Samples
Message-ID: <199604222033.UAA73702@r05n01.cac.psu.edu>
Hello all,
Interesting story: We had an outdoors concert thingy here last
saturday. (Buffalo Toms headlined, with Jewel, and some other bands)
Anyway, the band that opened up was called Shadowlands. Anyone heard of
them? They're from Pennsylvania somewhere. They were allright. Nothing
special, they played mostly originals and Ozzy's Perry Mason. Anyways,
interesting part of the story: They decided to cut they're performance
short due to time constraints . . . after the show, my friend picked up one
of their flyers, and low and behold, they were going to end with Pull Me
Under. Needless to say, we were a little dissapointed. Also, the flyer
had the band members bios on it, and the rythm guittarist went to Berkeley .
. . forgot her name, but thought it was interesting.
On another note. Anyone know where the samples are from in the demo
version of ACOS on the wonderful Antiquities? I swear, the one where the
guy says, "Do you know what Carpe Diem is . . . " sounds like Steve
Martin. I don't know . . . any ideas?
That's all, goodbye
Brian Anderson
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 22:01:37 +0100
From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Ozzy
Message-ID: <9604222101.AA19136@barren.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
Someone wrote:
> Is Ozzy still up to his tricks live?
I saw him in November, and it was the best concert I've ever been to!!
Yes, I prefer DT's music over Ozzy's (just), but Ozzy's gig was just so
much damn fun!
You will piss yourself laughing at the video intro tape :-) The guy
is wonderful!
Graham B.
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 16:55:19 -0400
From: WildKoba@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: stuff as always
Message-ID: <960422165518_278098863@emout16.mail.aol.com>
yo kids. what up? just wanted to ask those who have received a copy of my wfs
transcription. what they think of it?
hope things are ffidh (funky fresh in da house). i'm out.
peace out.
dk
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david yoichi kobayashi
guitars, keyboards.
binghamton university. class of 97.
"me? i'm just the lawnmower- you can tell me by the way i walk."
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 17:20:22 -0500 (CDT)
From: Ryan J Benedict <rbenedic@gac.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Lallapoluza Question?
Message-ID: <199604222220.RAA27464@juno.gac.edu>
Does anyone know a place to check out Lallapoluza information on the Net?
Also, I had heard that Alice In Chains was going to be there. Is this
true, or did my source get AIC confused with Alice Copper (is he really
going to be there?)?
Thanks,
Ryan Benedict
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 17:32:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Ryan P. Skadberg" <skadberg@wicked.stigmata.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: An Addition to the counter
Message-ID: <199604222132.RAA04629@wicked.stigmata.org>
Hey Itchy ....
DO you think you can code this in:
Most replies in one jam to a stupid post posted in the jam before?
;)
Skadz
-- +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ | Ryan P Skadberg skadz@mindstorm.com | | s y s t e m . a d m i n i s t r a t o r / w e b . d e v e l o p e r | | http://www.bluesky.net/skadz/ http://www.dreamt.org/ | +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ \ "And every prayer we pray at night has somehow lost its meaning" / \ "Dead Winter Dead" - Savatage / +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+------------------------------
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 17:30:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Ryan J Benedict <rbenedic@gac.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Lie & UK Releases Message-ID: <199604222230.RAA27519@juno.gac.edu>
Jammers,
>>Why does the actual Lie single CD say that the CD was made in Germany, yet the CD inlay says that it is the first ever UK release? I don't know if this has been asked or answered yet, but I noticed it and was curious.<<
I had asked this question before, but got no answer, so I thought I would ask it again. The place on the Lie single that says Germany is on the "music" printed (sorry for lack of terminology) side; it is the numbers that are around the "hole" of the CD? I was told this by someone who KNOWS what those numbers mean. Was he right?
Thanks, Ryan Benedict
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 17:39:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Spirit in a Material World <slowhand@wam.umd.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1465 Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960422173736.25247E-100000@exp3.wam.umd.edu>
>Hi all. > >I recieveed the first digest, 1460. >I wanted to know if it is about DT, because I have subscribed into it >when I was on the official DT page 2 dayz ago. >I would really appreciate it if anyone tells me where I can find Dream >Theater TABS. >I really need them, and it would be great! >10x all, and c'ya. > > Asi Louzon > alouzon@aquanet.co.il
official dt page? who's! there are two books published by warner music which have the complete tab for dt's albums Awake and Images & Words. Ihave both, and i'd say they are (for the most part) accurate. There are some glaring errors in the I&W book, but if you are able to play DT music, then i figure you'll also be smart enough to realize which parts are wrong. ;)
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 14:58:38 -0700 From: ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero ) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: itchys dog, ozzy, some other stuff Message-ID: <199604222158.OAA06323@dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com>
>Man, you're just too cool. Beer's on me next time I'm home. :)
itchy's dog is on you? itchy control that thing will ya, if its not humping someones leg its laying on a damn birthday cake!
ooooooooooooooooooh!!! i left my cds playing and satch just came on! yippie! i'm going to see him in 8 days!
>Brett: ytse-oz, where beer and babes unite.
itchy how'd your dog get so popular all o the sudden?
>WDATU-What the hell is this? Last time I checked the name of the CD is >"When Dream and Day Unite". I don't see a T in the title of that disc.
must we go thru this AGAIN? The T comes from TOday which was a cd made by mike bahr, early DT songs from WDADU with James L doing vocals, plus a few extras. there.
>There's a place that has ACOS t-shirts for sale. I've never ordered >from them, but the URL is http://members.aol.com/rocktoys/index.html.
yyyyees!!!!!!! I'm there!
> Well, Ozzy, if you count him in the above catagories. He certainly > isn't mainstream alternative. :) I had to search for someone to go > with me to the damn show, and I have 4th row tickets. Bummer...
Ozzy rocks, i saw him last oct. ggggreat show! The only show that kicked more ass then ozzy was Ted Nuge, hes one crazy motherfucker live!!! wow, he cranks it higher than anyone, if you think you've heard ted by hearing cat scratch fever, then ha! my personal favorite live was Kiss My Ass, what a great song "hey courtney love i got your hole right here" haha! Ted's the man!
>A Question: Does anyone know if there are MIDI files of DT songs to be >found on the net? I collect midi-songs and some DT material would be >the crown to my collection.
i saw UAGM mid somewhere i think and you could probably mail buster (dave) he may hook you up with the caught in a web one he used on the DT doom level.
>I honestly don't give two flying shits
hahaa! that's one for the quotebook
>>>>>>I was just told that when the most recent Cinderalla and Dokken albums came out and they inquired into the possibility of air play on MTV they were told by MTV's execs not to even bother to make the video 'cuz they would not play it. Can you believe this shit? MTV is taking exposure and money away from established, talented bands and giving it to often talentless acts that wont' be around in 5 years, much less be anything one might call a "classic." The bands that aren't getting airplay have so much to offer. The popular "music" might have sometihng to offer, but they all offer the same thing, repeatedly, in MTV's rotation. I've heard Much Music is a bit better, but jeeze, what a shame. Ok, off the box, I'm going back to sulk now. :)<<<<<<<
damn, that pisses me off, i've heard about that though, but ya know what, those stupid fans of theirs wont even care about those bands either in a few years because they're so closed minded. as yngwie put it - "the mcdonalds mtv generation" or something of that matter. DT and other bands fans will stick with em, because we know what we like. Winger used to do so much shit for mtv its not funny, and mtv just goes behined their back and rips the shit out of them. hell, winger even went to mtv and said "why are you doing this?!" but its no matter to mtv, and whatever beavis and butthead say is what everyone will say, do you think without them there to tear up old 80s metal it would be so despised? ugh.
>While on the subject of DOOM...my roomate and I put together a sound >wad based on the Princess Bride movie....it's totally awesome (air >guitar!) If anyone wants a copy, let me know and we can work it out...
i remember that flick! what a great movie! true classic man.
>Is Ozzy still up to his tricks live?
bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!
>Jimbo the funky beer monster.
itchy whats with that dog of yours?
>I would really appreciate it if anyone tells me where I can find Dream >Theater TABS.
ftp site mirrors.aol.com
that be it for now, enjoy the rest of your jam ~Rip
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 17:30:55 -0500 (CDT) From: Sean T Gill <stg@csd.uwm.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: spaelingg? Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960422172454.29026A-100000@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu>
> Dream Theatre-Come on people it seems if you were dedicated fans you > would be courteous enough to at least spell the bands name correctly.
If you think that's bad, one of the nearby Musicland stores spells Yngwie Malmsteen as Yngvie Malmstein ^^^ ^^^^^ I mean, come on, his name is on the damn cd, you could at look at what you put on the rack. At least theatre is a viable spelling
By the way, I found a concert video store that has a DT tape of a 1993 Boston show. Does anybody know what this is?
TTFN- Sean
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 15:34:34 -0700 (PDT) From: m_washke@acad.lvc.edu To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: WDATU and NetCentral Message-ID: <199604222234.PAA00770@mindcrime.ax.com>
Jeffrey Cline, I'm probably the eighteith person to post this, but the acronym refers to a Mike Bahr CD by the name of When Dream and Today Unite, in which James performs all of the songs from WDADU live. (I think.) Anyway, if you want anymore details, talk to Mike.
Everyone, In addition, someone posted about a NetCentral room set up for jammers. I've been there for every damn day for weeks and I haven't found anyone there! If anyone wants to talk to me, write me a time to be on, and I'll meet you there. If you don't know what I am talking about, its a chat room you can access through the internet. Unlike the IRC, there is no software to download, and no ridiculous problems to deal with getting into it. (As you can see, I still haven't gotten the damn thing to work.) I don't know the address off the top of my head, but just do a search for NetCentral, and enter the live chat, then a private room by the name of Dream Theater. If there is no one there, check out the music hall. I've met a bunch of really cool people there. Anyway, as long as you have net software, you are in. If you can't find it (which shouldn't be a problem), e-mail me and I'll write you with the address.
oh yeah, Mike Bahr- Thank you for Antiquities. It was a very impressive job. I recommend it.
Mike Washkevich m_washke@acad.lvc.edu
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:41:40 -0500 (EDT) From: "Scott R. Daugherty" <srdaugz2@homer.louisville.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: That Daugherty guy (fwd) Message-ID: <9604222241.AA27893@homer.louisville.edu>
> From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> > Subject: That Daugherty guy > > Other Jammers, am I way off base here? Have I missed something? Did the > Pentagon or the CDC recently release a report to back up Mr. Daugherty's > claims?
Hey D-Man, make sure you specify who you're flaming when there are multiples of the same name!
See ya, SCOTT Daugherty
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 17:46:56 -0600 (CDT) From: randrews@post.cis.smu.edu (Robert Paul Andrews) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAMDT keyboard tab? Message-ID: <m0uBUNk-000FrWC@post.cis.smu.edu>
Does anyone know, if at all possible, where I can get the keyboard parts for any or all DT songs? I'd be willing to pay $$! Please e-mail me privately. Thanks. Rob randrews@post.smu.edu
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 18:55:47 -0400 From: ahs110@psu.edu (Amit Shah) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: ALICE ON TOUR?! Message-ID: <199604222256.WAA24982@r05n01.cac.psu.edu>
>Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 11:16:17 -0400 (EDT) >From: "Ytse' Jim" <jlutz@hartford.edu> >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1463 >Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960422111444.10365A-100000@jabba> > > > >> Think about it, how many metal/hard rock bands are touring this summer? >> KISS, is about all I can think of... > >Metallica >Soundgarden >Alice Cooper >Scorpions > wow, is Alice Cooper really touring this summer? it's about time! anyone know where/if the dates are posted?
Quotes from last weekend:
"Get back in the window bitch!" (at a party when some girl climbed out) -- Jason Snyder jrs275@psu.edu
"Freshness is the key." -- The Joker
"We have so much fucking tuperware!" -- some girl in east halls
"Let's get STOOPID." - me
"We don't wan't any trouble! We were just watching!" (CrazyJohn wimping out after 3 big & ugly assholes came up to our room) -- John Almquist jfa113@psu.edu
"I'm gonna go jump over those people laying in the grass." --a drunk Scott Singer sas271@psu.edu
"C'mon in. There's beer in the 'fridge, and honeys on the floor." -- some dude at a Latino party that we crashed.
"Ummn.. this is Jenny BOOB..." -- (Tumbleweed's intoduction of Jenny BUBB) -- a VERY drunk Mike Friedman mrf131@psu.edu
"Fuck you Matt. She was giving head to Creedence and you know it!" (response to matt saying although this woman he dated was alive during Woodstock, she didn't go)-- a sober Scott Singer
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 19:07:32 -0400 (EDT) From: NuGgeTMaN <emoeglin@freenet.tlh.fl.us> To: Michael Bahr <durnik@indirect.com> Subject: Re: Congratulations James!! Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9604221920.A1403-0100000@fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us>
Congrats James!!!!!
---------------------------------------------------------------------- According to the circle of fifths, and the order of sharps and flats: If the alphabet continued as notes progressed (Using Major Key Sigs) (i.e. A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, etc.) eventually the key of Z Major would have 4 sharps. StatisticZ show that if a person is born with Perfect Pitch, chances are they will grow up to be a famous...Baseball Player!!! :)
"Just Lighten up and listen to the Music" -Kevin Moore (inside joke)
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 16:11:13 -0700 From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Argh! Message-ID: <199604222311.QAA27744@maple.enet.net>
>Damn Ben! You're already kickin' me out? Waddup w/ that? I'm still gonna be >here for 2 months... at least let me in on the creative process ;) >
I give up, dammit. Too many lies and complaints. ;-)
>Hello. > > I'm a Hungarian fan of Dream Theater and especially of Mike Portnoy. >Me and some of my friends are big fans too, and we like your style of >playing your instruments. I would have a question to Mike: > Do you relly feel your playing (I mean globally) in some parts of your >songs, e.g. Under A Glass Moon (during the guitar solo, especially at the >beginning), or you just memorize each movement of your arms and legs? The >parts like this seem very extreme to me because I have a little experience >in playing drums. Otherwise, I can't imagine playing these things just by >memory. Judging by your drum themes (like in Metropolis, at the end of the >big solos - it's really great! -), your IQ must be rather high, far above >the average. > > best wishes, > Szilard
Szilard: Heeheehee...that was funny. Sorry, but the members of Dream Theater don't read the jam. We all think it would kick major ass if they did, but they aren't really computer literate. Until they are, we just have to entertain ourselves. ;-)
>Okay, I just read Bafu is not going to Ytsecon III. Why? Bafu, if its >money or a ride, e-mail me.
Man. How come nobody offers to pay for my trip to the Con from Las Vegas? :-)
>A Question: Does anyone know if there are MIDI files of DT songs to be found >on the net? I collect midi-songs and some DT material would be the crown to >my collection. >
I have files of CiaW, 3T, Lie and PMU. They do exist....but, I forgot where I found them. ;-)
>Current playlist: > >DT- WDADU >DT- LatM >DT- I&W >DT- Awake >DT- ACOS
See, now THERE'S a real fan. :-)
>The "T" in WDATU comes from the Bahr CD that seemingly everyone but >YOU knows about. As for "Theatre" well, just get over it.
Christ guys, take it easy. There's no way to know what WDaTU is if you just came on the Jam. Nobody flamed me when I asked what AD was last year.
Peace out yall. Tomorrow I'll be blonde. :-)
YNMF!!!!!! :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) Favorite Song(s) of the Week: Lifting Shadows off a Dream Mr. Cool of Lal
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Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 19:06:41 -0700 From: Mike Backof <mbacko1@umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Echolyn- Selling out? Message-ID: <317C3B31.3383@umbc.edu>
Hello Jammers,
Andrew Miller posted part of the lyrics to "Those That Want to Buy":
In The Gardiner's Guide (includes lyrics and comments by the band) (note that the comments were before they got signed, if you read them all, Chris and Tom seem to be the ones most adament about "not selling out")
Tom: "Our promise to echolyn fans... we have never and will never compromise a song. We will never put out a song that we ourselves are not totally into, regardless of current musical trends. (Remember when Kiss put out their disco hit "I Was Made For Lovin' You")"
That is from the horses mouth. I remember right after they got the record deal, I talked to Chris and he was psyched that Sony had told them initially not to change what they were doing musically, record the album you want to play, and "as the world" is the result. I don't know if this was a ploy on the record company's part, or when the record company got the album, they didn't see $$$$$$. Who knows, I don't think that echolyn sold out, as the world would sound similar if it was made on the Bridge Records label like Suffocating and the S/T album, the production would just be weaker due to budget constraints.
Later,
Mike
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