YTSEJAM Digest 1454
Today's Topics:
1) DT Shirts - Last of t he Lot
by Jason Giles <jgiles@crl.com>
2) The Mirror, Shadow Gallery, and Superior
by "Devil's Plaything" <papined@pr.erau.edu>
3) Hey, someone got the joke!
by clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E. Cleary)
4) Re: dreamt.org accounts
by borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
5) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/18/96 - 23:06:20" <response@ibmmail.com>
6) Degrading CD thread
by BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM>
7) Oedipus, Damon, Ytsecon
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
8) Re: Majytse
by Mason Pokladnik <fmp8157@tam2000.tamu.edu>
9) The "Sound"
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
10) AW: YTSEJAM digest 1452
by Rudy van IJzendoorn <rudy.van.ijzendoorn@tip.nl>
11) Thoughts
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 14:28:26 -0700
From: Jason Giles <jgiles@crl.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT Shirts - Last of t he Lot
Message-ID: <199604182128.AA00584@crl.crl.com>
Hello everyone, just wanted to post all of the remaing shirts I have from
the last order that I did. I don't know when I am doing another order,
so you just might want to get one while they are around. Here's what I have left:
1 XXL Navy
6 XL Black
2 XL BLack Tanktops
2 Lg Black Tanktops
1 XXL Forest Green
And that is it! If you want something, email me at: jgiles@crl.com. Make
sure you specify and alternate in case what you want is gone. Attached
at the end of this file are shipping info, cost, etc. Thanks!
jason
jgiles@crl.com
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OK Shirt fans! It seems there is enough interest to test the waters
more for another shirt order. After speaking with the shirt company
about minimum orders, it looks like we need 50+ orders to make it
worthwhile. So, here's the info, please send in your requests for
shirts now, and if I see we're going to make the 50 mark, then I'll
then instruct everyone where to send the money, etc.
For news on Tank Tops, see below!
Design ( front ):
Majesty symbol in white ink, with "Ytsejam" on top in script font,
and "INTERNET MAILING LIST" in small block letters beneath.
Design ( back ):
Large white DREAM THEATER logo in white across the top, with
Let the Light Surround You across the bottom in greyish GLOW IN THE
DARK ink.
This shirt is now being offered in FOREST GREEN, BLACK, MAROON, and
DARK NAVY. I cannot guarantee that this design will look good on
any color but black! (of course, "good" is completely subjective).
Sizes Available: M, Large, XL, XXL (+$1.50), XXXL (+$2.00).
Dark shirts tend to shrink more than light colors, so if you are on the
edge of a size, order accordingly!
Fill out this form and return it to jgiles@crl.com:
Name:
E-Mail Address:
Mailing Address:
Qty Size Color
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2 XL DK Navy
LEAVE NOTHING BLANK!!! All info is needed for me to properly take care
of everyone! Be sure to specify what color goes with what size, etc. if you
are ordering more than one shirt.
Shirt design can be previewed on a black shirt at:
www.crl.com/~jgiles/shirts.html
Shirts at $14.00 each, which includes shippin the US and Canada. Add $4.00
for orders outside the US, such as Germany, UK, etc.
Let the fun begin!!! Questions, comments, orders, etc: jgiles@crl.com
MORE NEWS-- TANK TOPS! I will now offer Tank Tops for the coming summer
months! Black will be the only color available, and the
and the design will be the same, except that the
majesty logo and other left breast artwork will be in the center of the chest of the tank top. They will be $14.00 as well, and the same sizes will be
available.
SHIRT ORDER DEADLINE IS FEBRUARY 28th!!!
"Listen! Do you smell something?"
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 14:46:00 -0700 (MST)
From: "Devil's Plaything" <papined@pr.erau.edu>
To: Ytsejam List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: The Mirror, Shadow Gallery, and Superior
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960418144052.19903A-100000@moon.pr.erau.edu>
HEY JAMMERS!!!! I'm in a generally good mood because I just turned in
the big 'ol project for CS317!!! YESS!
Four finals to go!
Anyway, I've been reading a whole lot recently about Shadow Gallery, and
this other band Superior. I've seen talk on them for several months
now...never heard a bad thing! I'm really interested in getting a piece
of the action here!
Can somebody point me in the right direction to get ahold of some
material by either of these bands?
Also, IMO, the part that makes "The Mirror" for me is the very end, when
its just the drums, the keys, and the bass, and then Petrucci comes
roaring in....AHHH...I love it!!! To bad it only lasts about 10 seconds
before Lie comes on...
Life, liberty and Rychness...
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Once lost but I was found
When I heard the stained glass shatter all around me
I sent the spirits tumbling down the hill
But I will hold this one on high above me still
She whispers words to clear my mind
I once could see but now at last I'M BLIND
---------------> Kevin Moore <----------> Surrounded <---------------------
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The Devil's Plaything
--- papined@pr.erau.edu ---
David Papineau
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 17:23:57 -0500
From: clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E. Cleary)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Hey, someone got the joke!
Message-ID: <199604182223.RAA31011@tuvok.marian.edu>
>Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 15:37:32 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
>To: ytsejam@ax.com
>Subject: A bunch of leaps
>Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960418152451.5642F-100000@gorf.rs.itd.umich.edu>
>
>To begin, a horrendous joke
>
> clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu
> ~~~~~
>what the hell? The Star Trek Voyager Institute of Higher Learning?
>(sorry, Corey, no offense meant, I just couldn't resist it)
>(The black Vulcan, i think that's his name)
>
First, I would like to start with the fact that I'm suprised that it took so
long for someone to see this. The Assistant of Computer Services at the
college I attend is a Star Trek freak! He thought it would be different to
name the server Tuvok. Yes, he's the black Vulcan on Voyager. Send your
address and I'll pay for a new DT boot just for you. I figure that's a
great prize.
Please forgive me for my insanity- John Scelotizin
Corey E. Cleary
Somewhere in the promises,
I've fallen...
Deep beneath the light.
- C. E. Cleary
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 23:11:02 +0100
From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: dreamt.org accounts
Message-ID: <9604182211.AA05904@barren.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
DMC wrote:
> > Guess what? I won't be asking for a dreamt.org account.
>
> That's true, but if you meet some hot babe on the street (OK, or a friend)
> and she asks you for your e-mail address (haven't you heard? Phone #'s are
> out! E-mail is in! :)
Actually, I traded email addresses with a German babe I met at a party a
few weeks ago. We were both drunk.
We write regularly :-)
Graham B.
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 18:05:04 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/18/96 - 23:06:20" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199604182204.PAA16546@mindcrime.ax.com>
The mail item that you sent at 22:04:57 GMT on 18 Apr 1996 has been delivered.
However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a
format that is acceptable to the recipient, FITIPMOL at IBMMAIL.
Information beyond column 79 in the mail item will have been wrapped.
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 16:09:07 -0600
From: BILL HUSTON <HUSTON@IOMEGA.COM>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Degrading CD thread
Message-ID: <s176695c.002@IOMEGA.COM>
The theory behind using gold as the data layer in a CD is the fact
that it has a brighter reflection of the laser beam than that of
aluminum. Whether this actually affects what you hear is debatable. I
don't know if stronger luminence has any bearing on reproduction. If
the lens receives the signal back, I think it's more important that
it is aligned properly as opposed to intensity. However, alignment
does affect intensity. This alignment is what is decoded and
interpreted. Poor alignment will cause the correction circuitry to go
into effect and the data is then interpolated. Extreme mistracking
results in lots of noise, ie a crackling noise similar to an LP or
skipping. The noise is due to the constant interpolation of the data
and naturally there will be mistakes in it, hence the noise. There
has been documented proof that if a CD is manufactured improperly,
specifically, there is no seal between the substrate and the
polycarbonate, then the air will oxidize the aluminum at a quicker
pace than normal depending on it's ambience. The same will happen to
a gold disc, but slower. In short, a regular CD theoretically should
last indefinitely if manufactured properly and then handled properly
throughout its life. Those of you who have gold CD's may have other
opinions/facts to share on this subject. Gold Master CD's (mfg) claim
their signal is stronger than a regular CD. I believe this but
whether or not it makes any difference again, is debatable. I
personally have not heard one of these to be able to make any
opinion.
At work, it is my job to run tests of this nature on several
things and we have done this test in environmental chambers on CD
roms with varying substrates and known defects. The chambers are used
to accelerate ambient conditions thus simulating many years in
shorter periods of time. Results showed little differences in
performance across all types of substrates used. All showed
degradation, however, when the plastic allows air in to affect the
metals. But in accelerated time, one would not notice this
degradation for 25 years real time! Again, this test is with CD rom
not audio CD. The manufacturing methods are identical but you don't
listen to CD roms per se. So exactly how this affects sound is
unclear.
To the person who enquired about this in the first place: I think
you are noticing a difference between the Japan release and the
domestic release and not a degradation in your CD. The correct
comparison is how it was when you first got it vs. how it is now. And
that would be impossible without expensive scopes and stuff and
documenting it when you first opened it up.
This is long enough hope it helps
Wilmo
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 15:23:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Oedipus, Damon, Ytsecon
Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.92a.960418152238.54013A-100000@homer19.u.washington.edu>
> From: napkins@clandjop.com (Seth Hatlelid)
> Subject: Oedipus Rex's Majesty
Cool interpretation. I would suggest committing it to memory so you can
ask Petrucci about it in person, should you ever meet him. That's what I
did with "Under A Glass Moon," and he wasn't as secretive as one might
think.
---- > From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> > Subject: Re: YtseCon III Attendees List > > All right, jammers. Here's your chance to do your good deed for your > lifetime."Drive me to Ytsecon III. I'll give you my eyes if you do." At this time I'd like to suggest an activity for YC^3. Auction off Damon's eyes. You can get the Majesty symbol tattood around the irises, then wear it on your Lie shirt, with one with the big purple eye in the center. Except your shirt will have a REAL, LIVE, MAJESTY-ENGRAVED EYE STARING BACK AT JAMES WHEN HE SCREAMS AT YOU FROM THE STAGE...
---- > From: btomko@home.glasscity.net > Subject: Blah, Blah, Blah... > > As far as Ytsecon, please tell me I'm not the only one who's either > too broke or too young to go on his own. Enjoy yourselves, guys, 'cause > you're all GOING STRAIGHT TO HELL!!!! (I'd love to go with you).
Don't worry, Feyd. You and I can hop on an IRC channel and chat while everyone else has a grand old time in New Jersey...*sniff*... :(
Bafu Vai
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 17:30:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Mason Pokladnik <fmp8157@tam2000.tamu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Majytse Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960418171430.25839C-100000@tam2000.tamu.edu>
well on the unabomb thread. I just have to say I think it's really DreamNDay. Am I the only one who noticed the coincedence his leaving the list and the bomber getting caught? So how many people think I'll get email from the FBI wondering why the word Unabomber was in my transmission! Big brother is watching.
Majytse- the ancient chinese art of signiture file
now playing in my dual cassette deck: Surreality - SYL nifty!
ps I too am a CIS sort of but no multimedia experience
------------------------------------ -Mason Pokladnik - -fmp8157@tam2000.tamu.edu - -http://http.tamu.edu:8000/~fmp8157- ------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 15:41:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: The "Sound" Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.92a.960418153427.173541A-100000@homer30.u.washington.edu>
> From: clearyce@tuvok.marian.edu (Corey E. Cleary) > Subject: Crap... > > I have one thing to say to this IDIOT, READ THE WHOLE SONG!!!!!!!! > > BTW, does anyone know what the "sound" is in the song?? :)
If you read the lyrics, the lines with that reference in them go like this:
1. "The siren kicks him from a dream, tries to shake it off but it just won't stop."
2. "He lights a cigarette and turns the music down, but just can't seem to shake that sound."
3. "Can't hear what he's saying when he's talking in his sleep, he finally found the sound, but he's in too deep."
4. "And answer a call while you still hear at all, 'cause nobody will if you won't."
The "sound" to my mind represents a nagging feeling that one has when a deeper part of their conscience knows that they're in the wrong situation. Some people have trouble admitting to themselves that they aren't happy. As far as I can tell, the person in "6:00" is trapped in a situation/life they'd rather not be in, but doesn't wake up (no pun intended, though that might shed some light on the meaning of the album-title) to that fact until it's too late.
The first line above, with the siren, could mean that something is bugging him and he can't figure out what it is. My guess is that he's feeling some kind of discomfort and can't locate its source, so he chooses to ignore it, shakes his head, tells himself "it's nothing," and goes on with life. But it just won't stop.
The second line involves him, well, lighting a cigarette to comfort himself, and turning down the music, possibly to help him think more clearly. He's trying to work things out in his own mind, but he just can't seem to shake that sound.
The third line is about his subconscious screaming at him to get out of his present unhappiness and make a change, hence the reference to "talking in his sleep," which is supposedly when people blab the complete truth about what's really on their mind. Even if he were to hide his discomfort from himself (what's that called, repression? denial?), somewhere in the depths of his brain he knows he's unhappy. And when he finally wakes up to this fact, it's too late for him to change things, 'cause he's in too deep.
(this is some ominous stuff, Kevin)
The fourth line is about answering a call, (the call of opportunity or change perhaps) which is a lesson this person who has wasted his life has learned. He can no longer even hear "a call" because his time has ended. He's supressed his own desires for so long that he can't even recognize them anymore. No one can just push the "inspiration" button on you to make you alive and passionate if you're sick of living and just plain exhausted. Answer a call while you still hear at all, 'cause nobody will if you won't.
"Nobody knows what they want, 'till they've finally let it all go."
He figures out what "the sound" is when it dawns on him that his life has become something he doesn't want, but as the rest of the lyrics state, he's so horribly trapped within the present state of things that his discovery is futile. It's so late in the game and he's so drained of energy that any attempt at starting a new life would be hopeless. The rest of the song's lyrics seem to fit with this idea...
Anyway, that's MY take on the "sound."
What do YOU think?
---- > To G. Jack Thetgyi: How's this for MST3K? "Looking very relaxed, Adolf > itler on vibes..." > > Feyd
Was this from that beatnik episode? Didn't you just want to leap into that circle and scream, "STOP!! STOP IT!! DAMN YOU AND YOUR MUSIC!!" I know I sure did...
Bafu Vai
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Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 01:11:48 +-200 From: Rudy van IJzendoorn <rudy.van.ijzendoorn@tip.nl> To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: AW: YTSEJAM digest 1452 Message-ID: <01BB2D8D.385EDBC0@utrecht08.pop.tip.nl>
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Hi Jammers,
I was wondering if I'm the first Dutch guy ever to write in this = newslist. And I have a couple of questions.
First of all, why does everyone always use these non-understandable abbreviations for bands and albums? Not everyone is familiar with all the bands and albums you all write about! (yeh, yeh, I know all those DT abbreviations)
Secondly, what the #%^$^ is Ytsecon 3? Could someone please explain? I probably won't show up there (unless someone's nice enough to shell out some cash and send me a return ticket, hehehehe), but I'm still very curious about it.
Number 3:
>Date: Thu, 18 Apr 96 12:54:38 EDT >From: 21640Fortin%Elofs%CFSJ@banyangate.cmr.ca >To: ytsejam@ax.com >Subject: DT Doom game... >Message-ID: <199604181810.LAA02657@ax.com>
>HI jammers! > I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the DT Doom = game=20 >really is? If possible, could somebody tell me where I could find it, = I'd be=20 >really interested playing this game if there is anything about DT in = it!
>>------------------------------------< >> It's time I make my amend, < =20 >> Look in the mirror my friend... < =20 >> < >> Dream Theatre < =20 >>------------------------------------<
>Stef =20 > Le Dragon
Dream Theatre, mais mon ami, how on earth can you spell that wrong?
#4:
Overkill. I agree that Bobby Blitz has a very irritating voice, but = their first album 'Taking Over' (see? no abbreviations) is great though. And I think = that his voice really mixes well with Overkill's music.
-5-:
Crimson Glory is also a great band, but I think that 'Crimson Glory' is = much better than 'Transcendence'
Seeya,
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'Outside the soundness of your mind' 'Bathing your soul in silver tears' 'Beneath a blackened summer sky' 'Praying for time to disappear' (Dream Theater)
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 16:16:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu> To: Dream Thespians <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Thoughts Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.92a.960418161554.117560A-100000@homer13.u.washington.edu>
I'm really bored, so I thought I'd list the random thoughts of my mind:
Current thoughts in my 100-thought mind:
1. Acoustic Dreams will probably arrive this week. 2. I wonder if the choice between capitalizing or expensing costs is what originally led to companies front-ending their revenues? 3. When is some clear-cola company gonna do some ads targeting Coke and Pepsi based on how much tooth-decaying acid the dark-syrup sodas carry in their formulas? 4. Haikiba! WHOOOAAH WE GOT MOVIE SIGN!!! 5. Boy that Paul Gilbert is fast... 6. I'm hungry. 7. I wonder if I should ask her out? 8. Too bad I won't be able to make Ytsecon in October. 9. Whatever happened to the Iron Sheik? 10. Whatever happened to Lady IceFire? 11. Would the Iron Sheik stand a chance against Lady IceFire? 12. Would I stand a chance against Lady IceFire? 13. Is Scotch gonna make fun of me for posting all this? 14. Damn Paul Gilbert is awful speedy... 15. I wonder if I could have finger-digit implants? 16. Strawberry-flavored stamp-glue. Yeah. 17. Is "simplicity" really the shortest distance between two points? 18. If this doesn't go away in about a week, I'll probably have to see a doctor. 19. I wonder who would win in a fight between Mike Tyson and lead singer of Type O Negative? 20. How many fuckin' times am I gonna have to profess my adoration of Dream Theater before people stop complaining about the lack of DT-content in my posts? 21. Only two more months until I can legally dance in public places and listen to live music in clubs! 22. I wonder if they give classes on how to listen to live music, since it's obviously too special and complicated for me to enjoy for the first 20 years of my life? 23. Dammit, I am never gonna be able to nail this solo... Fuckin' Paul Gilbert... 24. I wonder who would win in a fight between Bob Dole and a stop sign? 25. No torches allowed on concrete balconies? What, is this the new combustible type of concrete, officer?
Whoops. Out of thoughts. (Oh come on, you didn't think I'd carry a joke THAT far, did you?!)
Dream Theater.
Bafu Vai
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