YTSEJAM Digest 1477
Today's Topics:
1) Various Replies
by borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
2) Rhyme time.
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
3) Whoops.
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
4) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/25/96 - 01:02:54" <response@ibmmail.com>
5) Bootleg info
by "James D. Tolley" <jdt115@email.psu.edu>
6) Dt songs made into sentences
by kurt@fgallery.com
7) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1476
by Bogie34@aol.com
8) The longest post?
by Bogie34@aol.com
9) Alterna Crap
by bimmered@usa.pipeline.com (Raf)
10) WDADU on the net?
by kretschmer@bdt.com (Jon Kretschmer)
11) venues
by Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net>
12)
by
13) (Fwd) Subject (ndtc + some dtc)
by "D_TiCian" <s7700020@singnet.com.sg>
14) Pantera
by swanson@henge.com (Sheila Swanson)
15) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1476
by Bigman <martinah@csd.uwm.edu>
16) Re: The spring theory
by Sean T Gill <stg@csd.uwm.edu>
17) Composing, Ohms, Awake songs...
by zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill)
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 00:38:34 +0100
From: borlangw <borlangw@dcs.gla.ac.uk>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Various Replies
Message-ID: <9604242338.AA17621@saunders.dcs.gla.ac.uk>
Greg wrote:
> A great man once said "There is no best, just favourites". (Sorry
> for the Canadian/British spelling for those who get offended by that
> too!)
That's OK . . . everyone knows that to be a great man you have to be
Canadian or British :-)
Bafu wrote:
> "Look, back UP!! BACK!! BACDAFUCUP!!" -- Big Security Guard, said to the
> Birch Hill audience at the request of James LaBrie.
Why was James so worried? He was perfectly safe on the stage! And as for the
crowd . . . well . . . everyone knows that a concert ain't a concert unless
you emerge suffering from dehydration, 3 broken ribs, and a gruesome
hairstyle.
DMC wrote:
> how about one (or some) of the L.I. area Jammers offer DT to help get them
> set up on the Net?
Don't DT have better things to do, like, um, Record an Album, and Tour the
World?
If I was cool, and in a cool band, I'd be spending all my time playing
sell-out gigs and misbehaving with the groupies. I would NOT be sitting here
staring at a computer screen . . . :-)
Graham B.
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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 16:39:00 -0700
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rhyme time.
Message-ID: <199604242339.QAA11061@maple.enet.net>
>But still... I don't like Hootie so you can chill :)
>
>Hey that rhymed:)
Not really....only if you say the second part real fast. Like:
But still...IdonliehoosoyucaCHILL.
>Whatever, Pat. Just remember this:
>"99% of alternative bands have no talent whatsoever."
>"OK, I do admit that I like some alternative bands."
>
I dunno Chris....there *are* about a million copycat alternative bands out
there, so if he only likes 1% and the rest is crap, that's still quite a
few. :-)
>For God's sake, even if it means being an asshole, take a stand one way
>or the other.
Yeah, Pat....I mean, shut up Chris...I mean, screw you Pat...er...I'll rip
your throat out Chris...I mean...AGH! I'm so confused.
>Nice try, Pat - er, pat.
>
Heeheeheehee.
>"Dear God, please not that. ANYTHING but that." -- Paul Vanyel, at Birch
>Hill, said as James LaBrie ominously said the word "webbage" while
>introducing the next song as the entire lot of us were struggling for air
>and getting crushed.
>
Bafu, before you quote somebody, learn their last name. ;-)
"But Ben, it says Vanyel in his E-Mail adress, so I put that."
Yeah right. :-)
>>>BTW...Does the lead singer of Green Day have a bigger dick than Labrie?
>>>
>>
>>Gee..thanks for THAT image.
>>
>
>What image, ben? The lead singer of GD's penis, KJL's penis, or the two of
>them comparing sizes?
I think the fact that you really want to know says a lot about you, Mr.
Oates. :-) SICK, I tell you SICK SICK SICK!!! :-)
>Oh, and congrats on being a double-bldie.
>
Nah....I let my anus hair grow out. ;-)
And, you're welcome for THAT image.
>Be a man, merlo and give it a rest.
EVERYBODY SHUT UP!!!! This isn't your freakin' kindergarten class. Sheesh!
>YESTERDAY IN QUEBEC CITY THERE WERE THE SPECIAL "DREAM THEATER" SHOW ON RADIO
>
>SPECIAL 1 HOUR OF "DT" AT CHOI-FM 98.1
Gee....thanks for telling us AFTER it happened.
Remember, Mr. Merlo and Mr. (pat) Daugherty....Love is the dance of
Maternity...er....Eternity. :-)
YNMF!!!!!!
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
Favorite Song(s) of the Week: Natural Science
Mr. Cool of Lal in a Spiral Array
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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 16:42:16 -0700
From: Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Whoops.
Message-ID: <199604242342.QAA11132@maple.enet.net>
yo:
Forgot to tell you...I'll be gone till Sunday in California for the
band trip. If anyone knows where El Dorado High School in Placentia, CA is,
come see me! Be there around....uh....11:00 or so.
Yeah right. :-)
Even though I'll be gone, I will live on.
YNMF!!!!!!
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
Favorite Song(s) of the Week: Natural Science
Mr. Cool of Lal in a Spiral Array
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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 20:01:38 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/25/96 - 01:02:54" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 20:00:19 +0000
From: "James D. Tolley" <jdt115@email.psu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Bootleg info
Message-ID: <199604250004.AAA04470@r02n05.cac.psu.edu>
Hey there, this is the first time I've ever posted, although I've
been reading for 6 months now. My girlfriend picked up a bootleg for
me in Florence, Italy. Titled "Consciously Unreal" it's a 2 cd set
with songs from USA concerts, but it doesn't say where. If anyone has
this and more info than the sleeve gives, could you email me at
jdt115@psu.edu. Thanks.
One other question, someone said that in the Mind Control set, the
band sings happy birthday to John Myung. No such act on my copy, did
I get hosed or something?
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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 20:05:30 -0400
From: kurt@fgallery.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Dt songs made into sentences
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.4.24.-12.5.30.2916992174.278892@bbs.fgallery.com>
Hi..
The silent man is learning to live under a glass moon with the ones who
help to set the sun ,in only a matter of time he will be surrounded and
caught in a web.
hehe
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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 21:09:02 -0400
From: Bogie34@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1476
Message-ID: <960424210901_279952012@emout19.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 96-04-24 20:02:32 EDT, you write:
<< The ONLY problem I had with WDADU, besides Charlie's voice, was the
production. I really wanted to head JP's guitar work.. but it's really
buried. I haven't heard the re-release, so maybe someone could fill me in
there.. One thing though.. of the live tracks from WDADU that I've
heard.. I think I like Charlie's phrasing a little better.. maybe it's
because it's what I'm used to..
I agree that the production was rather poor on WDADU. I do have to admit
though that I first heard I&W and Awake, so in comparison with those, WDADU
is really bad. On I&W and Awake especially, the tracks are so clear and
distinct. The sound seems right in your face, not repressed. Maybe one day
when they are basking in their glory and have some spare time on their hands,
DT can remaster this great album.
Bogie
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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 21:09:12 -0400
From: Bogie34@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The longest post?
Message-ID: <960424210910_279952118@emout15.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 96-04-24 01:35:47 EDT, you write:
<< 17) Me no blonde.
by Ben Laussade <laussade@enet.net
I'll spare everyone's life by not quoting Ben's post in Jam #1472, but, man!,
that post was LONG! And then to top it all off, it ended the jam!
To whoever is gathering all the stats about the jam (frequent posters, etc.),
can you find out the longest post of the jam, and who on average posts the
longest? I think it would be kind of interesting. Make sure you leave out
the idiots who accidentally quote the entire jam...
Bogie
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 01:27:40 GMT
From: bimmered@usa.pipeline.com (Raf)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>, ytsejam@ax.com,
Subject: Alterna Crap
Message-ID: <199604250127.BAA20439@pipe6.t2.usa.pipeline.com>
A few of the fellow 'jammers have been talking about the alterna-crap
thing. All I have to say, is that America's youth and musically ignorant
people have to wake up and smell the Theater!!
How can the Presidents of the USA be good, and proud of themselves if they
recorded that SHIT CD with three guitar strings and two bass
strings.......WOW you guys are so COOL........spare me......DT is the best
thing that has happened to rock (progressive mind you!!) in 10
years..........and I still want Kevin back just look at Ytsejam....what a
peice of ART!!!!
Rock On people!!
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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 18:01:33 +0800 From: kretschmer@bdt.com (Jon Kretschmer) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: WDADU on the net? Message-ID: <v01510101ada3ac2e6ac3@[206.14.103.54]>
I figure I should get WDADU now that it has been reissued, just in case my current copy gets fucked...Anyone have a good Internet supplier of CDs that has this puppy in stock that wont charge me a kidney to get?
Thanks.
Jon
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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 22:00:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Sullivan <psull@ici.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: venues Message-ID: <199604250200.WAA28847@kirk.ici.net>
> As far as the thread on Dt playing at small venues. I can't agree more >with the jammers that think that DT and other great bands will be in trouble >with the record companies if they don't start playing at some bigger venues.
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I know DT can deliver the goods in a club. Even the first El 'n Gees show at Xmas last year (which was *not* fun :)) still ranks as one of the best club shows I've seen. It remains to be seen if they can make the jump to larger arenas and still maintain the connection with the crowd.
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>I attented the first of two shows at the El-N-Gee club in Groton (sic) >Connecticut, and I must say..I was rather pissed off. I arrived at 7:30, >expecting to enter the building at 8:00, as stated on my ticket. While >waiting, a guy came out and said there is asmall delay and irt would be >another 45 minutes. I tought, ok...no prob. 2.5 hours later, having no >feeling in my body, hoping my feet were not frost bitten, we were let in. >It got so bad, people started throwing snowballs at the club and using >the wooden fence as fire wood.
Ah, someone who can attest to my opinion of the New London show.
I went back to my car at about 8:30 to leave my coat there, figuring it wouldn't be much longer. If I could have felt anything when they finally let us in, I would have felt rather foolish. :)
>Oh yeah...who was that guy walking by the line of people every ten >minutes repeating "Mike Bahr" over and over.
Damn.. I forget his name, but I met him at the get-together before the show. he had Mike's ticket for the show. Apparently, Mr. Bahr had the good sense not to bother going to that particular show. :)
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Pat Sullivan_________http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/psull/psull.html________ "The wide corridor up the center of E Block was floored with linoleum the color of tired old limes, and so what was called the Last Mile at other prisons was called the Green Mile (here) at Cold Mountain" ____________Stephen King - "The Green Mile part 1 - The Two Dead Girls"____
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Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1996 10:07:07 +0800 From: "D_TiCian" <s7700020@singnet.com.sg> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: (Fwd) Subject (ndtc + some dtc) Message-ID: <199604250205.KAA02870@sunflower.singnet.com.sg>
So I mail this again. Cause I didn't see me own mail.
From: Self <Single-user mode> To: majestY Subject: Subject (ndtc + some dtc) Reply-to: s7700020@singnet.com.sg Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 20:09:11 +0800
unsubscribe response@ibmmail.com
_______________ndtc____________________ I'm looking for this guy who replied my mail really, really, really long ago. I asked you about some King's X stuff and you gave me some reviews on their albums. I lost your mail account so...
These are the bunch of jammers I have met on dreamt 2112. -Augie -BafuVai -Bernd -D-Man -E-Man -Irene/ytsejam-DT(?) -JG -Skadz -Ytse-Ben -Damon Q, JamesBond?? ......
This is the 3rd time I'm asking this. Are there any other Singaporean Jammers?
So to add to this thread. I listen to Pearl jam, Dream Theater, Rage againest the machine, echobelly, weezer, skid row, sting, Jamiroquai, Dave Matthews Band/Van (Ben!!), Dream Theater, Extreme, smashing pumpkins, King's X, Live, The Cure, Dream Theater, Sacred Reich, White Zombie, Descent/Descent ][ (No wait tt's play), Dream Theater.
____________dtc__________________ Any1 notice how 'Only a matter of time' rulez? Isn't there a boot somewhere, tt Labrie sings on?
DT YOU HAVE FRIGGING FANS IN SINGAPORE, + I WANT TO MEET YOU GUYS PERSONNALLY!!!! There.
me = JackieCha/dtc
Love, (Fuck I make me sick) dtcontent, NOT!
-dtc
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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 20:07:42 -0600 From: swanson@henge.com (Sheila Swanson) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Pantera Message-ID: <199604250207.UAA09927@henge.com>
Well, guess what. May 7th is the release date for Pantera's new album. I'm stoked about this for a number of reasons. First, they have been one of my favorite bands for a long time. Second, the title is The Great Southern Trendkillers. This is the greatest name for my attitude right now. I figure if we take all the Bush shirts and change the B's to R's and make them say Rush then at least all these "I love alternative, I hate my life," hipsters would at least look cool. In Dimebag's article/interview in the latest Guitar World ends with Dime saying something like "Don't be a follower, Trendlill broes." Words of wisdom from a highly respected man.
When it comes down to ripping it up, Pantera is the best of them all. Except, of course, DT.
DTC: Whyt didn't To Live Forever make it on I&W? It obviously rules.
Speaking of trendkilling, check out Sixteen Horsepower if you want a breath of fresh air. The first time I heard it it almost made my head split open and bleed. Just be prepared for a major shock.
Later, Cory Swanson (not Clearey, just wanted to make that even clearer than it already was. Why must I always clarify my name?)
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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 21:24:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Bigman <martinah@csd.uwm.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1476 Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960424210507.8480A-100000@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu>
> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 17:44:39 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Scott L. Vanek" <svanek@gnu.uvm.edu> > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1475 > > Greetings... > > I think ive only posted once here so ill introduce myself. Im a junior at > at the University of Vermont. I listen to DT, QR, Marillion Live, and > various other stuff.
Cool! Do you know The Digital Man? :^)
[stuff about waiting in the cold removed--yeah, it did suck... oh well]
> Oh yeah...who was that guy walking by the line of people every ten > minutes repeating "Mike Bahr" over and over.
*DaBigman focuses his magical powers Mike Bahr, Mike Bahr... :^) Seriously, I dunno. Could it be Trey? hmmm... Was he selling a crapload of stickers?
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> Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 19:32:02 -0400 (EDT) > From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> > Subject: Coincidences > > Funny how things work out. I was reading the last Jam and listening to > Rush's "Moving Pictures." While reading a certain post, one particular > line from "Witch Hunt" caught my ear: > > "Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand" > > Maybe it's just me, or my uncanny luck with Rush relating to life so > damned well. I dunno.
Hmmm... "All the world's indeed a stage and we are merely players; performers and portrayers..." You know the rest of it... :^)
> Oh, by the way - Hey, E-Man! Please Don't Go! :(
nononononononono, thats (cue music):
du-du-du-du-du-du-du-duh PLEASE DON'T GO!!!!
oh nevermind. In all seriousness, I'm gonna miss E-man. :( no more "EEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Hurry up and get a server, man! Hey Skadz, anything you can do?
yuck. no more mushy stuff.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > \|/ ____ \|/ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ > "@'/ ,. \`@" cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" > /_| \__/ |_\ d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ > \__U_/ http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > End of YTSEJAM Digest 1476 > **************************
*DaBigman chalks one up for The Digital Dude... :^)
I've been posting too much lately... Later from LoserLand, DaBigL-man :^)
P-sub-S: Hey Corey, do I still get my 5 grand? Oh, and while your at it, throw in 4 plane tickets and hotel fees for YtseCon III. :^) :^)
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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 1996 21:33:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Sean T Gill <stg@csd.uwm.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: The spring theory Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.960424213001.17980C@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu>
> > The Spring Theory: > 95% of all female college co-eds look better in shorts. > The remaining 5% are fat. :) > Transfer to Wisconsin, those % will even out!
DTC I want to hear a wailin' bass solo on the next DT album. Ytsejam and Metropolis just arent enough.
TTFN- Sean
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Date: Wed, 24 Apr 96 19:18:34 PDT From: zack@lsil.com (Zack Gemmill) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Composing, Ohms, Awake songs... Message-ID: <9604250218.AA05178@tengs1>
> From: ytsejammer <belhai@drew.edu> > Subject: composed VS written > > A while ago I was reading some post from alt.music.rush and someone said > the reason why Rush is a great band is because they *compose* their music > rather than *write* it. A few days later, I asked my music teacher if > there was a difference between the two words and he said no. So now I'm > confused and I ask the help of my fellow ytsejammers: is there a > difference between "composing music" and "writing music?"
Composing is to writing as a rectangle is to a square.
> From: Jonathan Goad <jgoad@quapaw.astate.edu> > Subject: Another question from Jon Goad > > > While I'm at it, could someone explain the watts/ohms relationship to > me? I've been looking at catalogs for amps and it'll say, like, "400 > watts into 4 ohms." Could someone clear this one up for me? > > Thanks again, > > Jon Goad
If I remember Ohms law correctly,
IR=V
that is, current (amps) times resistance (ohms) equals volts
watts (measure of energy per unit time (power))= IV
substituting, we get:
watts=V^2/R
I hope I did that right. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. The other permutations are workable from the above info.
> From: ernie@mail.pananet.com (Ernesto Schnack) > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1468 > > > >And someone said "Awake" isn't a "cohesive" album. Bullshit. > > > > This reminded me of something I was thinking. Am I the only one who thinks > that CiaW and LSoaD should trade places on "Awake"?
I think IF and LSoaD could trade places with UAGM, if that were possible.
> From: "Damon M. Fibraio" <s0067977@hawkmail.monmouth.edu> > Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1468 > > I have followed your Awake list so far about the guy and switching LSOAD and > CIA and stuff like that, but where does Innocence Faded fit into the story? > Maybe I missed something?
Innocence Faded, if I remember correctly, is the band's take on Kev's departure. Isn't this in the FAQ? |>)> (blind smiley) :>)>
Zach
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