YTSEJAM Digest 1491
Today's Topics:
1) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/27/96 - 15:55:45" <response@ibmmail.com>
2) YTSEJAM digest 1489
by mojoman@pointblank.com
3) SH*T!
by subtlerage@gnn.com (Andrew Miller)
4) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1489
by Josh Sager <jsager@cygnus.rsabbs.com>
5) Bass tab
by btomko@main.glasscity.net
6) If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem
by BigDTFan@aol.com
7) Jerky Boys!
by Bogie34@aol.com
8) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1488
by Bogie34@aol.com
9) Thoughts and Replies
by Daniel McCormack <dmc@dreamt.org>
10) Re: Damon, Morten, Mike
by "C.S. Frankel" <96sp211@dvc.edu>
11) Interesting Free Offer........
by SElli97635@aol.com
12) flames and weakness
by kozmas@Meena.CC.URegina.CA
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 10:54:26 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/27/96 - 15:55:45" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199604271453.HAA14685@mindcrime.ax.com>
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 11:47:26 -0500
From: mojoman@pointblank.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1489
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.4.27.11.47.26.2377490627.1295491@pointblank.com>
If you love DT but Hate QR you're missing the point???
What the **** is that!!?!?????
I think QR's Promised Land blew dog...The group is
talented...I've liked some of their stuff....but I HAVE to love
QR and DT to be getting the point of progressive music..?????
Buster, Dave, or whatever the useless phrase they call you...
Listen to me and listen good.....DONT make blanket statements
like that!
People are proud of the music they like and proud of the music
they dislike, and you can not tell them they are missing the point!
What is a real kick in the ***, is that you are probably a
sophmore or so in high school, and you are trying to explain 'what it's
all about' to people you don't know about.
Most likely, I've been listening to music for several years
longer than you, and I think I know what its about...I dont need your
pomposity to shine through and try to explain your **** stinking
reason...
M O J O M A N S P E A K S
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 11:18:30
From: subtlerage@gnn.com (Andrew Miller)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: SH*T!
Message-ID: <199604271615.MAA02615@mail-e2b-service.gnn.com>
talk about thinking before you post......
sorry about that folks. i think i just re-sent half of the damn digest in
that last post of mine. apparently i've got an itchy trigger finger this
morning, and sent the damn thing before i realized what i did.
i apologize if that's the case.
Andrew
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Andrew Miller - SubtleRage (progressive rock)
- Interum (new age/prog instrumental)
SubtleRage@gnn.com -or- millera@chop.isca.uiowa.edu
http://members.gnn.com/subtlerage/index.html
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 11:30:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Josh Sager <jsager@cygnus.rsabbs.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1489
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960427112416.312B-100000@cygnus.rsabbs.com>
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* Josh Sager *
* -=> A.K.A Lapu <=- *
* E-Mail: jsager@rsabbs.com *
* WWW: http://www.rsabbs.com/~jsager/ *
* Snowcrash cyberchat: syrinx.rsabbs.com 2112 *
***********************************************
> I wrote to this cocksucker privately, but since he had the balls to post this
> to the Jam, I figured I'd write him a public message. You, sir, are
> completely fucking wrong. If I wanted shit from you, buddy I'd squeeze your
> empty fucking head. You know music about as much as I know driving. Who the
> fuck do you think you are, anyway? I didn't ask for your advice, and
> especially in that tone, young man. I have a good ear, I can hear this shit
blah blah blah blah blah ......
Well I guess this is my turn to interject. I'm new to this list, but a
fan of DT since WDaDU.
Um, dude, Damon I guess your name is... What does this have to do with
DT? If I recall correctly, this is a DT mailing list, not a Damon mailing
list. Have I subscribed to the wrong thing? If you can play all these
songs and stuff, cool. I've been playing for 17 years and I have trouble
playing some of John's albeit "easier" sounding stuff. But I came on this
list to hear about DT. There is no difference between F sharp and F#,
being as good as you are you should know that.
Anyway, I'll shut up now. BTW, I don't know if anyone has put this in
yet, but three titles for the new album are:
1 - Where Are You Now
2 - Take Away My Pain
3 - Raise The Knife
Some working titles for the new album are:
1 - Carnival of Clams
2 - Cat's Tail
3 - AnnaLee
4 - "Completely Untitled" (ok, I made this one up, but they have a song,
it just doesn't have a title).
Look for the release in early fall..
Later!
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 13:00:57 -0400
From: btomko@main.glasscity.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Bass tab
Message-ID: <B0000010769@home.glasscity.net>
I found a whole load of bass music on the internet. (Thanks, Brett!)
It's great, and pretty accurate. Does anyone else know other places to look
for more of this?
Mark Tomko
aka
Feyd
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 13:17:45 -0400
From: BigDTFan@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem
Message-ID: <960427131745_384267820@emout10.mail.aol.com>
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From: keu@pointblank.com
Subject: YTSEJAM digest 1485
[re-post of almost an entire jam deleted]
***IS IT ME OR ARE THESE JAMS GETTING TO LONG!?!?!?!
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ACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He's BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--Elliott Kim, The Ytsejammer Formerly Known As ekim01@fiu.edu
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 14:08:56 -0400
From: Bogie34@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Jerky Boys!
Message-ID: <960427140855_101651928@emout14.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 96-04-26 19:38:10 EDT, you write:
<< Or did he mean, "Open ya fuckin' EARS, jackass!" Any Jerkies in the house?
Can you hear me in the back?
Yeah, we're in here, liverlips! And if you didn't notice me the first time,
I'll come over there with a ratchet and break your fuckin' head wide open!
Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, tough guy!
Yeth, my name ith Bafu Vai and I'd like to make an appointment for thumb
glatheth?
(Okay, if you couldn't tell, I'm trying to type out a gay lithp. :P)
Yeth, I wath wondering if I should bring my shoes, tho I have them?
I love the Jerky Boys!!!
Bogie
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 14:08:53 -0400
From: Bogie34@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1488
Message-ID: <960427140852_101651899@emout12.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 96-04-26 19:38:10 EDT, you write:
<< I (try to) frequent the QR newsgroup, but anymore it has been overrun
by "Mindcrimer" and his Tate vs LaBrie, DT vs QR, etc. He is EXTREMELY
closed minded. After reading some of his posts, you would almost beleive
that one of the members of DT killed a close family member of his, or
something. Needless to say I skip over EVERYTHING he writes.
Isn't it disgusting? I used to like having discussions in that newsgroup.
Until I found the 'Jam! It's like one big happy family! (With an
occasional tiff once in a blue moon!)
Bogie
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 14:42:06 -0300
From: Daniel McCormack <dmc@dreamt.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Thoughts and Replies
Message-ID: <31825C6E.2B32@dreamt.org>
Hey, what's up. Just a few thoughts and replies:
> From: Doug Cronkhite <dougc@cerf.net>
> Subject: Re: Read,Read,Read. Very important!!!
>
> Change the petition to say we'd like them to release 2 separate CDs..
> that should get around the double disc set problem... :)
That sounds like a good idea. anyone know of any reason why it wouldn't work? I'm not really clear on
this (I have/had both Illusions but I bought them a year or so after they were released); if they
released 2 CDs, a la GNR Illusions, are the 2 CD's released at the same time? That would be ideal... we
can get the equivalent of a double-cd but other people aren't forced to.
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> From: Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
> Subject: Ouch!
>
> > Well sir, this part is NOT hard to play unless you are a complete piece
> > of shit.
>
> Obligatory Semi-Buddhist comment: Worry not, Damon. For it is far better
> to be a complete piece of shit than a partial, wavering, uncertain mound
> of feces. Celebrate your wholeness. Embrace it. And above all, do not seek
> vengeance upon he who chastizes you for having attained this level of
> oneness. He too will one day know the bliss you have achieved, and if this
> moment can only occur through death, then so be it. But you, Damon, above
> all else, should be aware of your complete shitiness, and quake not at the
> insults of lesser excrement.
ROFL! Bafu is da man! Hey, can I be a piece of shit too? How do I convert?
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15) Ouch!
by Steve Borzilleri <magellan@u.washington.edu>
16) I&W vs. Awake
by Charles D Harrison <cdh191@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
/sound #ytsejam cutoff.wav "That sonofabitch cut me off!!" (from Top Gun) :)
Later,
-DMC-
--Daniel McCormack dmc@dreamt.org or emc@caribe.net http://premium.caribe.net/~emc/dan.html
"They couldn't hit an elephant at this dist-" - General John Sedgewick, Union Commander in the Civil War, speaking his last words.
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 12:06:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "C.S. Frankel" <96sp211@dvc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Damon, Morten, Mike Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960427115440.28247A-100000@viking.dvc.edu>
Hi
I know this is probably a dead issue by now, but I just finished catching up on the last 20 Jams. here's what I have to say (if you don't care, then skip down to the next episode of Ytse and the Jam):
Morten, you are, like, such an asshole.
Geez, man. take a chillpill. I was talking to Daomn last night, and i couldn't understand why he was so upset over a stupid post. i thought he might have just been over-reacting, but then I actually read what you wrote, and i couldn't believe you could be so mean. I don't play keyboards, but Ieven I could see that what you were saying about LtL didn't make any sense whatsoever. I mean, F# and F sharp? WTF?
Instead of congratulating Damon for writing a post with actual Dream Theater content, you flamed the shit out of him for no reason. What did he do to you? It didn't sound to me like he was trying to be arrogant or anything when he wrote that.
And Mike: You know I love you, but I think what you said to Damon was way out of line. In my opinion he had every right to be mad. If someone had posted something like that about me, I probably would have filled up three jams venting my wrath. Would you have hit me too?
Well, I didn't mean to take up so much space with this. Sorry, guys. If anyone wants to flame me, take your best shot. Morten? Go ahead...make my day :)
@ .. @ /\_/\ (----)^{Alllrrighty then!} ( o.o ) ( >__< ) > - < Charone Frankel <96sp211@dvc.edu> "Death is the first dancing turrtellle!!- James LaBrie "Hey man, where's your sense of humor?" -Bart Simpson "Viva El Salvador!"- Jim Carrey <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 14:14:19 -0400 From: SElli97635@aol.com Subject: Interesting Free Offer........ Message-ID: <960427141418_282096731@emout07.mail.aol.com>
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 14:38:15 -0600 (CST) From: kozmas@Meena.CC.URegina.CA To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: flames and weakness Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.960427143301.541123178A-100000@Meena.CC.URegina.CA>
Hey all!! I know I'm the 50 000 000 000th guy to respond to the jerk from Norway who weakly flamed Damon, but I wanted to add my 2 cents (I guess that comes to about a little over a penny in Canada). If this guy professed to be such an amazing keyboardist, then why didn't he replace Kevin in DT when he left rather than Derek. Mr. High-and-Mighty is so great but where is his top selling album? Where is his stadium-packing tour? May Thor smite your ignorant ass you bastard!
Stephen Kozma
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