YTSEJAM Digest 1492
Today's Topics:
1) DT poster (WWW generated email)
by Jason Word <jbw3377@tam2000.tamu.edu>
2) Mail Item Format Warning
by "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/27/96 - 22:08:18" <response@ibmmail.com>
3) The elite
by kozmas@Meena.CC.URegina.CA
4)
by
5) CUT THE CRAP!
by Rudy van IJzendoorn <rudy.van.ijzendoorn@tip.nl>
6) Damon
by subtlerage@gnn.com (Andrew Miller)
7) Bah!!!!
by Josh Sager <jsager@cygnus.rsabbs.com>
8) Magazines and idiots in general...
by Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
9) woah, nelly!@
by mike <syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
10) Re: Interesting Free Offer.......
by "James Wiseman (Mr Who?)" <ma5jw@bath.ac.uk>
11) Song list...
by jgreene@acs.bu.edu
12) Comparisons
by "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
13) Comparisons II
by "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
14) Van Halen - NDTC
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
15) dt screen saver
by ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero )
16) Petrucci clinic
by DreamNDay@aol.com
17) *IMPORTANT INFO!!*
by guitar@haven.ios.com (Rob Leifer)
18) Song list...
by sjensen@research.westlaw.com
19) PoStS aNd tHiNgS...
by keu@pointblank.com
20) Re: Van Halen - NDTC
by DigiKon5@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 16:52:45 -0400
From: Jason Word <jbw3377@tam2000.tamu.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT poster (WWW generated email)
Message-ID: <199604272052.QAA15021@nermal.catt.ncsu.edu>
Hi, I am a student at Texas A&M University and was looking for a poster of
DT. I cannot seem to find one. Does anyone know where I might be able to find
one in the College Station or Dallas areas? Thanks.
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 17:06:58 EDT
From: "RESPONSE at IBMMAIL 04/27/96 - 22:08:18" <response@ibmmail.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Mail Item Format Warning
Message-ID: <199604272106.OAA19350@mindcrime.ax.com>
The mail item that you sent at 21:06:53 GMT on 27 Apr 1996 has been delivered.
However, it has been necessary to convert this item into a
format that is acceptable to the recipient, FITIPMOL at IBMMAIL.
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 15:08:14 -0600 (CST)
From: kozmas@Meena.CC.URegina.CA
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The elite
Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.960427145701.541123178D-100000@Meena.CC.URegina.CA>
Woohoo!
I've only submitted a few jams and I have made it to the hallowed
end of the digest already, I feel so weepy-eyed. (sniff sniff)
DTC: I really like the idea of releasing two separate albums, but if JP
said that they are going to be able to bring down the material that THEY
want released to 70 minutes then that's what matters right? It would be
great to have two albums worth of material over one album and a bunch of
B-sides because I don't have an adequate outlet for Japanese imports.
The local independent record store (Records on Wheels) can get me
whatever I want from Europe (even though Gamma Ray's "Sigh No More" came
after their "Insanity and Genius" CD when I ordered them a year apart),
but the Japanese stuff is just too hard unless I go to Japan for a CD
buying trip once a year. (don't some Japanese businessmen come here once
a year for golf, well got to balance the economy, right? Ooops NDTC,
sorry).
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Stephen Kozma
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 23:17:17 +-200
From: Rudy van IJzendoorn <rudy.van.ijzendoorn@tip.nl>
To: "'ytsejam@ax.com'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: CUT THE CRAP!
Message-ID: <01BB348F.AFDEC300@utrecht08.pop.tip.nl>
First of all let me express what I think of these flame mails. I think anyone
who has the nerve to send those emails to the jam is a stupid fuck,
PERIOD!
This mailinglist is and always was intended for exchanging information
about our favourite band Dream Theater. Not some stupid piece of shit
from whereverland claiming he's better in this and that than the other.
I realize I'm now flaming myself, BUT I think I speak for the majority of
readers, and therefore it is justified! So stop this nonsense now, or
I'll stop reading this list. (okay this threat doesn't mean anything to you
all but what the heck, let's give it a try.)
To change the subject; anyone who still hasn't voted for a DT double CD
should go and do it right now! Skadz has a point in doing this when there
are 20 or more new songs. We want more. (Moore?) Just go to www.
dreamt.org and give him your vote!
Thazzalfowkz!
Rudy 'U-dAZ' van IJzendoorn
(footnote/quote is under construction)
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 16:21:02
From: subtlerage@gnn.com (Andrew Miller)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Damon
Message-ID: <199604272117.RAA09551@mail-e2b-service.gnn.com>
(i don't think this got sent the first time, so i'm resending it. if i
did, i'm sorry for the repeat)
>It's different than the studio material. The box set you purchased is
>actually called Operation: Livecrime and is the live version of Operation:
>Mindcrime.
that is SOOOO cool! i picked it up a couple years ago at Best Buy, of all
places.
>Both times I've seen DT, I've been within sucking distance of James' cock
>(unless it really IS smaller than Green Day's). Thankfully, I have never
good god that was was a mental image i could've done without. yeeesh.
>For the record, Andy, I would've said exactly what I posted about Mort to
>his
>face and not felt a bit scared. I highly doubt he would've taken a swing
>at
>me. And even if he did, it would only be his ass that would've been
>wasted.
>If somebody is going to come out and flame me like that, I am going to
>retalliate and retalliate harsh. Especially when it concerns somethng I
>love
>and put hours upon hours a day into.
Damon: i was defending you good buddy., notice that i quote Mr. Mort and
not you. he made a personal attack on you which certainly justified the
response you gave him. i was referring to people like him that flame for
no reason.
hey, i tell you what, i love music with a passion and it's something i work
on hours upon hours each day as well. i know EXACTLY where you're coming
from when you say you retalliate harsh against people that flame you on a
subject that means so much to you. i've had the same damn thing happen to
me, and i just can't figure it out. (you know who you are)
and for the record, it's ANDREW.
talktoyalater
Andrew
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 16:25:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: Josh Sager <jsager@cygnus.rsabbs.com>
To: ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Bah!!!!
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960427162457.3268A-100000@cygnus.rsabbs.com>
Sorry folks. When I mentioned the "titles for the album" in my last post,
I meant SONG titles, not album title. (I really need to pay attention to
what I'm writing).
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* Josh Sager *
* -=> A.K.A Lapu <=- *
* E-Mail: jsager@rsabbs.com *
* WWW: http://www.rsabbs.com/~jsager/ *
* Snowcrash cyberchat: syrinx.rsabbs.com 2112 *
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 16:58:19 -0500 (CDT)
From: Pat Griffin <c675311@everest.cclabs.missouri.edu>
To: ThE NuGgeTjAm <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Magazines and idiots in general...
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.91.960427164415.19216B-100000@indy17.gclab.missouri.edu>
Skadz: Anyway you can add *@*.aol.com to the .ignore file? I hate to do
that to all the AOHellers that are on the list, but I would be more than
happy to forward any legitimate AOL post to the 'jam personally if it
will get rid of those damn Magazine adds and spam (if I'm not mistaken,
every one of those (in the last 6 mos. anyway) came from and AOL address.)
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I have decided that people today have no musical taste whatsoever. There
isn't a single good radio station here. Besides that, I played some DT
in my Bio Lab yesterday, and reaction were:
"This isn't progressive rock. This is glam rock." (That was my
damn TA! And he didn't even see the WDaDU pictures! :)
"This sounds like Black Sabbath."
"What is this crap? Warrant?" (!?)
"Is this Kiss?"
I guess we just can't win. I'm not saying prog is "it." I'm not one of
the fanatics that won't listen unless its in 12/2000 (I think that's
Damon's vision if I'm not mistaken) or has keys in it. But I really
don't like the music that is getting airplay today. IMHO, there are 3
types of music:
That which is good. (I don't think I need to elaborate)
That which I can listen to. (This is the music that I would never
actually spend my own money one, but if it's on, I won't
change the station/channel)
That which sucks. (Country, Rap, "light," etc...)
Rememer, this is *not* a blanket statment about music. This it a
blanket statement about the music that *I* like/dislike. I'm not going
to hate people who listen to country music. I'm just not going to go to
any parties they throw. :)
------
I sat down in front of the scanner on Thurs. The IRC page should be up
soon.
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| Pat Griffin Reality2 Design |
| c675311@showme.missouri.edu c675311@cclabs.missouri.edu |
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 18:30:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: mike <syrinx@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
To: Yitz-see-jam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: woah, nelly!@
Message-ID: <Pine.BSD.3.91.960427182823.7774A-100000@astro.ocis.temple.edu>
hey, all.
what's up with that ytsejam cd? are we doing it? if so, mojoman and i are
doing "the silent man", featuring mojoman on gee_tar and me on
vocals...which we _WILL_ be doing at Ytsecon.
to all of those who didn't like the ytse/jam stuff re-posted, i'm
sorry. i was reading it, and it was funny, and i thought i'd post it.
i've been bafu_ized, and i will no longer do such evil things.
syrinx has spoken.
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 23:52:34 +0100 (BST)
From: "James Wiseman (Mr Who?)" <ma5jw@bath.ac.uk>
To: Ytsejam <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Interesting Free Offer.......
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960427234625.2908A-100000@slc-23>
Right, who do I write to? I think we should all petition against this
in some respect. I've seen this "offer" 7/8 times now, and I theink we're
all getting mightily pissed off. I'm on 2 other band mailing lists and they've
0both been spammed. Ken/Skadz is it not possible to remove his person from
the mailing list forcefully?
Jimbo the funky beer monster.
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 18:54:48 -0400
From: jgreene@acs.bu.edu
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Song list...
Message-ID: <199604272254.SAA126278@acs5.bu.edu>
The bartender at the club I work at was checking out the CD's I had
brought. Ummm, he saw that I had 12 DT cd's, and wanted to borrow
them to check 'em out.
I compromised and told him that I would make a tape of the best DT
songs... and now I have a problem. What songs do you include on
a 90 min. tape? I am now taking suggestions...
songs already on there:
ACOS
PMU
YTSEJAM
LTL
BOMBAY VINDALOO
thanx in advance -
jeffrey g.
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 19:15:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com (Explore The Boundries)
Subject: Comparisons
Message-ID: <199604272315.TAA08903@grex.cyberspace.org>
Hey,
Any of you ytsejam lifers see any similarities between between
this Damon guy and that Frank guy from about a year ago?
-John
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 19:24:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Kotzian" <koggie@cyberspace.org> To: ytsejam@ax.com (Explore The Boundries) Subject: Comparisons II Message-ID: <199604272324.TAA09340@grex.cyberspace.org>
........or maybe instead of this Damon guy, I was thinking of the other guy? Oh, well maybe not. I'm all mixed up. -- -.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----.. J O H N K O T Z I A N : koggie@cyberspace.org -.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..-.---.----..
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 19:26:50 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Van Halen - NDTC Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9604271944.C29445-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
Just thought I'd let you all know that there's a new VH song out there. No, they aren't releasing a new album - they did this song for a movie soundtrack. The name of the movie escapes me right now, but the song is called "Humans Being." At first listen, it sounded like someone doing a really convincing imitation of VH, but it's them. I guess the song'll grow on me.
We now return you to your regularly-scheduled hatemongering and Jammerbashing.
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 16:27:01 -0700 From: ripzero@ix.netcom.com (RipZero ) To: Ytsejam@ax.com Subject: dt screen saver Message-ID: <199604272327.QAA13511@dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com>
hey guys!, i'm making a dt screen saver, i need some help, anyone who has any full screen dt .gifs .jpgs or .bmps send them to me! its gonna be like a slideshow of dt images with some cool transitions n stuff, cant wait to see whatchya guys have in store. later ~Rip
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 19:32:11 -0400 From: DreamNDay@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Petrucci clinic Message-ID: <960427193211_523345660@emout18.mail.aol.com>
I just got back from the Petrucci clinic in Schenectady, and it kicks serious ass. I got there 2 hours early and got to hear some of the soundcheck. I was also the 3rs person on line, so when the doors finally opened, I gor a nice little seat in the front. I got my ACOS and my Rock Discipline video signed, and I won and Ibanez shirt for knowing how many kds he had. Then he said "Does anyone know what our little symbols means?" And I said "Majesty!" and John said "Stop shouting! You already won a shirt!". One quick question. He asked if anyone knows what Erotomania means, and someone knew, and John said "You're probably an internet guy", and he said "I am!". Who was this? was this a jammer? If you are out there, e-mail me privately. Also, He said what I always thought, "Yit-Say-Jam" later--------------Brian
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 19:37:44 -0400 From: guitar@haven.ios.com (Rob Leifer) To: Ytsejam@ax.com Cc: (jc309@columbia.edu) Subject: *IMPORTANT INFO!!* Message-ID: <v01530500ada856e64600@[169.132.97.9]>
Hey Jammers,
I was walking along today when I suddenly ran into Derek on the street! He told me that he was going to eat lunch at a restaurant neer by, so I asked him if I could join him and he said yes! He wanted me to tell you guys that he is playing a gig MAY 10th at THE PEOPLE'S BAR & GRILL in ELMONT, LONG ISLAND. He's playing with his "side project" band called "ETHYL MERTZ." Other people who he will be playing with include Al Pitrelli (Savatage, widdowmaker) on guitar, Greg Smith (Rainbow, Alice Cooper) on Bass, plus a number of other special guest stars!
Derek specifically told me that this place is turning into "The new hip underground jam place!" The good news is that there is absolutely no cover charge!! Derek said that it is very important that all you guys wear either a Ytsejam shirt or some other type of DT shit, and that you come up and say hi to him. He told me that the gig starts around 11:00, but I would call to make sure. The number of this place is 516-499-2708. You can call for directions! All I know is that it's in Elwood, LI on Jerico turnpike and Cuba Hill rd.
Well, that's basically the extent of my knowledge. If you have any questions you can e-mail me and I'll do my best. I know Derek's number now so I could ask him any of your questions! I think we should have a small informal Ytsejam get together before the show. I'll talk to Derek and see if he'd dig that! Well, that's all for now!! See ya'll later!
Later, Robb
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 18:53:48 -0500 From: sjensen@research.westlaw.com To: jgreen@acs.bu.edu Cc: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Song list... Message-ID: <9604272353.AA13725@research.westlaw.com>
>>I compromised and told him that I would make a tape of the best DT >>songs... and now I have a problem. What songs do you include on >>a 90 min. tape? I am now taking suggestions...
>>songs already on there:
>> ACOS >> PMU >> YTSEJAM >> LTL >> BOMBAY VINDALOO
I would have to include Take The Time, Metropolis and Scarred
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 21:04:10 -0500 From: keu@pointblank.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: PoStS aNd tHiNgS... Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.4.27.-11.4.10.2377490627.1295980@pointblank.com>
**MOJOMAN@POINTBLANK.COM SAYS** If you love DT but Hate QR you're missing the point??? What the **** is that!!?!????? I think QR's Promised Land blew dog...The group is talented...I've liked some of their stuff....but I HAVE to love QR and DT to be getting the point of progressive music..????? ****
**KEU REPLIES** I totaly agree with you. Hell i dont listen nor know as much as you do yet I fe el I think i an opinion of what Progressive Music is.
Also Ill bring in QR-Empire in on monday. :)
**
** Josh Sager <jsager@cygnus.rsabbs.com WRITES
Well I guess this is my turn to interject. I'm new to this list, but a fan of DT since WDaDU.
**
**KEU REPLIES ya know I saw this CD at the wall today and EVEN THEY dont know what type of mu sic it is. THE WALL HAS A STICKER ON IT THAT SAYS "CLASSIC ROCK" I couldnt beleive they have This (witch was made in 1989) As Classic Rock Does this mean Alternitive is here to stay???????? I HOPE NOT!
2 - Take Away My Pain
I like that title
***BigDTFan@aol.com WRITES
ACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He's BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--Elliott Kim, The Ytsejammer Formerly Known As ekim01@fiu.edu
**KEU Replies
What do you mean i was never gone!
**Daniel McCormack <dmc@dreamt.org> Writes
That sounds like a good idea. anyone know of any reason why it wouldn't work? I'm not really clear on this (I have/had both Illusions but I bought them a year or so after they were released); if they released 2 CDs, a la GNR Illusions, are the 2 CD's released at the same time? That would be ideal... we can get the equivalent of a double-cd but other people aren't forced to.
**KEU REPLIES
The only thing wrong with that is the fact that ALOT of people and Critics will think DT is Calling it Quits. Look at GnR. Havent made a new GOOD CD since illusions Smash Pumpinkins... Released a 2 cd Thinngy. and thats all they are doing No more. I would rather See DT hold out on a CD and wait till Progressive Music is Back (witch it will be) then waste their creativeness now in the "Alternitive era"..
**From: SElli97635@aol.com WRITES
Subject: Interesting Free Offer........
I am not goign to quote it all.
KEU RESPONDS
WHY THE FUCK WOULD WE CARE ABOUT SOME STUPID ASS FAX THING? GET A LIFE LADY AND GO BOTHER THE SEX WITH SHEEP NEWSGROUP.
----------K E U -----H A S -----B E L L O W E D ----------
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Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 22:03:09 -0400 From: DigiKon5@aol.com To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Van Halen - NDTC Message-ID: <960427220309_479759048@emout19.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 96-04-27 19:34:09 EDT, you write:
>Just thought I'd let you all know that there's a new VH song out there. >No, they aren't releasing a new album - they did this song for a movie >soundtrack. The name of the movie escapes me right now, but the song is >called "Humans Being." At first listen, it sounded like someone doing a >really convincing imitation of VH, but it's them. I guess the song'll >grow on me.
The soundtrack is for 'Twisters'....
--DK5
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