YTSEJAM Digest 1734
Today's Topics:
1) TTT Italian sample
by wots@freenet.hut.fi (not x)
2) LiT and other blabla...
by Rajkai Piter <intcred@.ibm.net>
3) My name :)
by Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
4) Rush & more
by tq0139@mail.doshisha.ac.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
5) King's X (MDTC)
by "J. Christian Jens" <jjens@cais.com>
6) Tori Amos
by btomko@main.glasscity.net
7) Pronunciation, Jam etiquette (please read)
by rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
8) DT,King D, Fates, blah, blah....
by W_RICK_PIERPONT@BDHQ.BD.COM
9) Okay, okay....
by "Chris Ptacek" <someone@enteract.com>
10) addressbook
by Alan E Adler <al766074@mail.mty.itesm.mx>
11) Re: YTSEJAM digest 1732
by "Chris Ptacek" <someone@enteract.com>
12) Ytse-profile RESULTS
by swanson@henge.com (Sheila Swanson)
13) Rush Tribute/GC-KX concert (NDTC)
by Steven Jacobsen <jacobssa@hqamc.safb.af.mil>
14) A sad day for all PRIMUS fans...
by Dave Peterson <glyde@scc.net>
15) Re: Subject: Re: the Dave King jam
by Olaf Bode <100734.3240@CompuServe.COM>
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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 12:51:13 +0300 (EET DST)
From: wots@freenet.hut.fi (not x)
To: ytsejam@ax.com, mrkizer@ccgate.hac.com
Subject: TTT Italian sample
Message-ID: <199608010951.MAA14467@learnet.freenet.hut.fi>
For those few (I hope) who still don't have the official fanzine
The correct Italian words of the sample in Take The Time are:
"ORA CHE HO PERSO LA VISTA CI VEDO DI PIU'"
which means:now that I have lost my sight, I can see clearer.Those that appear
on the video and on the (otherwise perfect) songbook have the same meaning,but
they are not the right words.
The sample comes from the 92 oscar winner movie "Nuovo Cinema Paradiso" (new
heaven movie house) by G. Tornatore. The character who pronunciates those
words is Philippe Noiret,but I don't know the name of his Italian voice.
I just cannot guess the origin of the mistake but I am sure of what I said,
and any other Italian ytsejammer (are there any?) could swear I'm right,because
the words are pronounced clearly. So I would like Michael Kizer (thanks for
your job!) to correct the songbook.
Thanx
Matteo Gagliolo
Italy
wots@freenet.hut.fi
Any Italian,contact me.
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Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 11:53:07 +0200
From: Rajkai Piter <intcred@.ibm.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: LiT and other blabla...
Message-ID: <32007E83.136D@.ibm.net>
Bogie wrote:
> I haven't watched the video in about 2 months (Shame on me!) but if I recall
> correctly, they were talking about who produced the album, "Images and
> Words". They also talked about Jay Bernstein (or some name to that effect)
> who played some wonderful impromptu solos for the end of "Another Day".
Did they talk about something about how much time they spent in the studio?
Well, I've heard (from somewhere I can't remember) that in the beginning
they played together 8 hours a day.. is it true? Do you know something
about their practice time?
And any comment about their Marquee album? I mean I think James did his job
later in a studio..? Just my opinion. Yes, maybe I'm doubting Thomas but I
can't believe he can sing live in that way it's on the CD.
Anyway, thanks for the answers and sorry if these questions have been
talked out in the past but I read the digest for a week or so...
> I haven't heard of a tab for the PL album and I'm a pretty die-hard QR fan.
> (Sadly enough, I know the ASCII code for "". [That's ALT-152 to the rest
> of you!])
Sadly enough, I prefer spending my time with my CDs than my computer. :)
> Anyways, your best bet would be to join the Queensrche newsgroup
> at:
> rec.music.artists.queensryche.
> I'm on that newsgroup and even though they whine and moan a lot about who's
> better, DT or QR
Yeah, that subject were the main reason that now I prefer reading this
digest than alt.music.dream-theater. I hope that meaningless and dull
topic won't appear here.
Anyway, let me ask you who is better and why Oasis ripped off DT.. ;)))
Just kidding. Bye!
Peter
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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 12:42:41 +0200
From: Bernd Basmer <basmer@med-rz.uni-sb.de>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: My name :)
Message-ID: <9608011042.AA09382@krzsun.med-rz.uni-sb.de>
Hi!
BABS wrote:
>I just recently got back from CA and a few 'jammers and I got
>together and listed to Superior - excellent stuff I must say.
Thank you *bow to Babs* :)
>Then came the fun part of discussing w/ everyone on how your name is
>pronouned. I say that it sounds like "Burn id" others say that it is like
>"Bare nid" Could you please straighten us all out on this?
HARHARHARHARHAR, I almost fell off the chair when I read this! :)
So let's clear this up... I think it's pretty hard for you Americans
to imagine how to say this. I guess, most of you would say it like
'burned' (what is cool somehow :) but the right way would be if
you just put an 'nd' after the word 'bear'. So 'bearnd' would
be quite ok. :)
Bye.
Burned. :)
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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 96 19:42:53 +0900
From: tq0139@mail.doshisha.ac.jp (Keiji Nishihara)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rush & more
Message-ID: <9608011042.AA29900@mail.doshisha.ac.jp>
Hi! I've heard new RUSH song this Tuesday. It was title track of their
forthcoming album,and it's nice. I've never been a big fan of them,but I
like it.
Well, JOURNEY's new album 'Trial By Fire' ---release date :2nd Sep.
Re-united TNT recorded 3 or 4 tracks demo,and dealt with JVC-Victor.
Thanks.
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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 06:55:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: "J. Christian Jens" <jjens@cais.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: King's X (MDTC)
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.93.960801065309.10056D-100000@cais.cais.com>
hey Jammers,
those of you lucky enough to have caught the King's X show already: about
what time have they been hittin the stage? i get off (huhuh) work at
midnight so i'll be at the Bayou round 12:30.
so, is it worth trying to make it?
tia,
-john
j o h n s a v e u r @ c a i s . c o m
e
n
s h t t p : / / w w w . s i t e . g m u . e d u / ~ j j e n s /
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Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 08:53:07 -0400
From: btomko@main.glasscity.net
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Tori Amos
Message-ID: <B0000277214@home.glasscity.net>
Hey everyone! I went to see Tori Amos last night; she puts on a
great show. I'd never heard her before, so I don't know what songs she
played. The audience was really rude, and that pissed me off;here she is
pouring her soul out and the audience (probably having gotten stoned or
drunk between acts) is yelling at her.
Speaking of opening acts, it was awesome. It was a guy named Willy
Porter (?), an acoustic guitarist. He played with this wild percussive
style. It was a great show.
I'm going on vacation, so I won't be replying to anyone for a week
or so. bye.
Mark Tomko
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Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 15:19:59 GMT
From: rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Pronunciation, Jam etiquette (please read)
Message-ID: <3200b7a0.78268@mail.inforamp.net>
Good morning Jammers,
>Date: Wed, 31 Jul 1996 10:57:52 -0500 (EST)
>From: babs@sgenva.cc.geneseo.edu (Barb Battaglia)
>the fun part of discussing w/ everyone on how your name is
>pronouned. I say that it sounds like "Burn id" others say that it is like
>"Bare nid" Could you please straighten us all out on this?
If I remember "meine Deutsch" correctly, it should be
pronounced "Barent" as a single syllable. :)
On a totally unrelated note, let's all take a couple of deep
breaths and settle down a bit here.
The solution to all of the whining about the tribute is
simple.
If you have opinions regarding this project, then post
constructive, intelligent messages. Any information on personal
availability, studios and rates in your area and accommodations for
commuters will be very helpful.
On the other hand, if you have nothing helpful to say, THEN
DON'T SAY ANYTHING!!!
Being a pessimist will not help this situation at all. It will
increase the amount of arguing by coming across as a taunt. "This will
never happen because.........."
Whenever anyone takes this tone with me, it immediately gets
my back up. No one has the right to shoot down anyone's aspirations or
personal goals, unless they involve hurting others. Don't tell someone
that he can't do something and expect him to give up without a fight.
This thing might succeed and it might fail. Either way, I
suggest that we get behind those who are interested in doing it. The
bickering that has been going on here is very childish and is miles
away from the spirit of good humor and chemistry that makes up DT, to
say nothing of its distance from the normal family atmosphere that
exists on this list.
If any of the band have been reading recent Jams, I'm certain
that they are thoroughly disgusted with us. All of the bitching that
is being posted here should be done PRIVATELY!! There are NO EXCUSES
for making this public. "He said this about me on the Jam, so I felt
it was my right to respond in the same manner here...." WRONG! This is
not a WWF event. If someone is immature enough to attack you publicly,
show the world that you are a cut above him and take it to e-mail if
you HAVE to respond. The rest of us will thank you for it, as it will
save us from having to read through miles of inflammatory garbage. No
one wants to read these moronic name calling sessions. They are off
topic and should be done offline as far as this list is concerned.
When ACOS was released and DT credited us in the liner notes,
it was a true compliment. However, since they have identified us as an
influence on them, we now have a responsibility to live up to as well.
We must act in a way that reflects positively on the band. Remember,
anyone who has purchased ACOS may be subscribing to this list as a
result of reading about it in the liner notes. Do we really want DT to
be seen as people who make decisions partially based on the wishes of
people who constantly insult each other and can't carry on a civil
discussion in a public forum? That certainly will not help their
career.
Just something to think about.
Cheers,
Rick
Toronto
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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 11:04:07 -0400
From: W_RICK_PIERPONT@BDHQ.BD.COM
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT,King D, Fates, blah, blah....
Message-ID: <9607018389.AA838921708@BDHQ.BD.COM>
Hey all,
I've been sitting back for about a 100 jams or so waiting to chime in
(and find the time to do so), and it took the mention of King Diamond
to finally get my ass into gear. Mercyful Fate and King Diamond were
once my favorites without a doubt until DT came along. I've been a
long time prog. metal fan and it was MF/KD that started it all for me.
I remember the first time I heard FW "Awaken the Guardian" and
thought it similar to MF/KD. So to me it was just a natural
progression. BTW, I seen a lot of people ask about FW and the albums
to get. I think that all of them are great (with the exception of
"Night on Brocken" -- a little to Iron Maiden for me). "Awaken..." is
my John Arch favorite and "Perfect Symmetry" is my Ray Alder favorite.
When I first heard WDADU on the advice of Jim Pitulski himself, I
thought the playing was great but I didn't really like Charlie and,
being a guitar player of 19 years now, didn't like JP's tone. Boy was
I happy when I&W came out!! That downright kicked my ass. I already
owned a Mesa Boogie Mark IV, so I automatically fell in love with JP's
new tone. "Awake" was also stuck in my car (and my wife's car, too!)
for months. So, to ask me which one I like better? They both kick
ass!! ACOS goes without saying and "Live at the Marqee" which I found
by chance when I lived in Belgium for three months. Holy Shit!! These
guys are even PERFECT in concert. I have seen them twice at
Hammerjack's (Hey, MD/PA jammers) and thought they were excellent -
LATM just verified that for me. Wow, a 100 jams worth of thoughts
really gets long, doesn't it?? I guess to end this all up, someone
mentioned Mercury Rising, is that the Baltimore based on or is there
actually another band with the same name? I played a New Year's Eve
gig with them and Mystic Force back in 92/93 in a band called Vortex.
Definitely check Mystic Force out, they have a shitload of CD's out
and are worth listening to. In fact, they often open for FW when
they're in town! I've also heard from them that the guys in DT are as
cool as everyone keeps saying they are on the jam. Wow, musical
genius and cool personalities all rolled into one! Well I really
better get going. I don't want to hog up the whole jam.
Keep Jammin',
Rick Pierpont
P.S. We are all in this together and should stick together.
Sometimes people say things that we don't agree with but patience and
tolerance really are virtues. Keep the peace!!
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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 11:51:14 +0000
From: "Chris Ptacek" <someone@enteract.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Okay, okay....
Message-ID: <199608011650.LAA26579@enteract.com>
>So, stop bitching at each other (davechrisbenpatalanetc...) and enjoy
>the music.
Yeah... I guess that's all I wanted to do in the first place. That
shit got way out of control. I'm not perfect, so I can't say I won't
get into any more arguements of this nature, but I'll try to think
twice before I post my disagreement on the jam.
Chris Ptacek
EnterAct, L.L.C.
someone@enteract.com
K Elf Amon@Aol.Com (Emergency Use Only)
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"True Syncophants know how to spell 'syncophancy'...
otherwise they can't get into the meetings."
-Mike Keneally
~Buy Perspectives, by Jason Becker. Support ALS~
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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 12:10:26 -0600 (CST)
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To: Dream Theater mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com>
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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 12:18:02 +0000
From: "Chris Ptacek" <someone@enteract.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: YTSEJAM digest 1732
Message-ID: <199608011717.MAA28011@enteract.com>
> >Chris, get a fuckin clue will ya? We're taking our chances at this. If it
> >works ok if not ok but we'll have tried.
Thanks. I've got one. Will you relax? This is and has been a dead
issue on the jam.
>>DT don't either have the right to indulge with Mike Bahr, right?
Um... sure... what he said.
Chris Ptacek
EnterAct, L.L.C.
someone@enteract.com
K Elf Amon@Aol.Com (Emergency Use Only)
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"True Syncophants know how to spell 'syncophancy'...
otherwise they can't get into the meetings."
-Mike Keneally
~Buy Perspectives, by Jason Becker. Support ALS~
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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 12:09:36 -0600
From: swanson@henge.com (Sheila Swanson)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Ytse-profile RESULTS
Message-ID: <199608011809.MAA03864@henge.com>
How's it going you crazy people?
Well, the time has come. Weather you like it or not, here's the results of
the profile poll. Sorry, I couldn't get the survey on any other lists.
Tough luck for all of us:)
The Average Jammer:
Well, they have a grade point average of 3.55. Suprisingly, not one of the
responses contained a gpa of under 3.0. Good work jammers!
The average jammer is also a guitarist who meddles in one or more other
instruments. 77% of us are in fact musicians.
The average jammer is involved in either baseball or softball. Very few of
us are not athletes of any sort.
And, last but not least, the average jammer has an income of $52,619 a year.
Remember, no one is really an "average jammer." You are all special.
(sniff...I...I think I just got a warm fuzzy:):)
Later,
Cory
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Date: Thu, 01 Aug 1996 13:26:48 -0500
From: Steven Jacobsen <jacobssa@hqamc.safb.af.mil>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rush Tribute/GC-KX concert (NDTC)
Message-ID: <s200b07f.041@hqamc.safb.af.mil>
My fellow jammerz
Read in the paper today that "Working Man: A
Tribute to Rush" will be in stores next week. This
was reported to the paper by Best Buy so I can
only assume that they will be carrying this
release for us!!:^) They didn't put a date by the
release, just said next week. I will be going out
there this evening to pick up my pictures and the
new ALice in Chains, so if I see the date it will
be released I will post it here later.
Also in the same paper was a concert date for the
King's X show with the Galactic Cowboys opening
for them. The show will be August 28 at
Mississippi Nights in St. Louis. Any St. Louis
area jammers interested in going to this show,
please e-mail me as I would like but am not big on
going to the show by myself. I would only do that
for DT. (had to get the DTC in here somehow)
Steve
jacobssa@hqamc.safb.af.mil
"Remember, the word cornhole is a verb..."
Bob & Tom, Aug 1, 1996
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Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 13:43:57 -0500 (CDT)
From: Dave Peterson <glyde@scc.net>
To: DT Mailing list <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: A sad day for all PRIMUS fans...
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960801132929.6435A-100000@scc.net>
First, my apologies if this has already been covered on the 'Jam, but I
think this deserves some attention.
Get your hankies ready...
Directly off of The Primus Cheesy Homepage...
"A Friendly Departure"
Primus and drummer Tim Alexander have parted ways. "It's something
the three of us have discussed for a while." said bassist/vocalist
Les Claypool. "We all want to take the music in different
directions. Unfortunately for Tim, Larry (Lalonde) and I tend to want
similar things creatively." Claypool added, "This difference in
opinion I think left everyone less than satisfied. Over time this
developed into a rift that was eating away at the stability of the
band. After the last touring season it was evident to all of us that
something needed to change. "
"As we all know, Tim is an excellent drummer and I'm sure we'll see
great things from him in future projects," Claypool continued. "As for
Primus, Larry and I are extrenely excited to move forward and will
announce our new drummer soon. We are now writing and plan to start
recording in December. I would like to see Primus continue well on
into the next century - our new drummer will reflect that same
attitude. "
-
There you have it. There are rumors floating around that the Chili
Peppers are breaking up and Primus is considering getting Chad Smith (of
RHCP) but that's just a stupid rumor.
On to lighter things: Can ANYONE tell me how to get ahold of Sieges
Even's "Sophisticated"??? I've SCOURED the net for them and I only find
one site that has them (CDEurope) and they only have their old, crappy
stuff! Anybody know of a source that has that album? Otherwise I'll
have to start making long distance calls to places that don't have web
pages and that can get expensive!!! =(
I think that's about it. Hasta!
- Dr. Teeth
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Date: 01 Aug 96 15:14:29 EDT
From: Olaf Bode <100734.3240@CompuServe.COM>
To: "INTERNET:ytsejam@ax.com" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Re: Subject: Re: the Dave King jam
Message-ID: <960801191428_100734.3240_EHV104-1@CompuServe.COM>
Scott Cook you wrote :
<<<<
You know Dave, even at Dream N Day's peak time here on the jam, he
NEVER posted that much in one jam. Why don't you back off a little bit.
40% of the last jam was just yourself. You may be impressing the hell
out of yourself; but myself, I'm getting a little tired of it.
Scott Cook>>>><
Scott, thank you very much for this! Be careful, it's Dave (the) KING!
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