YTSEJAM Digest 1741
Today's Topics:
1) Bad
by Randall Braun <RBraun@tlr.ameridata.com>
2) The new album/DT inst.
by Ryan_Rafaloff@tanagraphics.com (Ryan Rafaloff)
3) intellugence
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
4) moo, not I
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
5) Holy Mother of Spam
by Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov>
6) The FAQ
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
7) Ytsejam Problems?
by "Chris Ptacek" <someone@enteract.com>
8) Re: Ytsejam Problems?
by Ytse-Kain <kain@caribe.net>
9) Doug's Bass Sound
by KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
10) ohmigod
by "'THE HAND...' R. Ananda" <spod@u.washington.edu>
11) Re: Ytsejam degradation?
by brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken MacLeod)
12) Is Rush Tribute Album still on schedule???
by vestal@usa.net (DUSTY VESTAL)
13) Re: Ytsejam degradation?
by Ytse-Kain <kain@caribe.net>
14) Thinking and Wondering (NDTC)
by KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden)
15) cd's 4 sale
by gsrockr@en.com (George Sumschidt)
16) New Queen Album
by Richard Warren <rwarren@memphisonline.com>
17) Rush Tribute!!!
by "The F.B.I." <bwherry@acs.bu.edu>
18) cool song
by David Alderman <alde0004@gold.tc.umn.edu>
19) Steve Morse
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
20) Instrumental versions of your favorite bands
by Mike Backof <mbacko1@umbc.edu>
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Date: Mon, 05 Aug 96 12:32:00 PDT
From: Randall Braun <RBraun@tlr.ameridata.com>
To: "'Ytsejam'" <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Bad
Message-ID: <32064EC2@mailgate.ameridata.com>
>> 3. Pardon my pre-"Achtung Baby" ignorance, but that U2 song that wraps
up
>> Subcon-- what the hell is the title? Is it "Bad" or "Wide Awake In
>> America" or what? I hope Bono isn't on the Jam, otherwise I'm dogmeat...
>It's called BAD
Yes it is "Bad". Originally on U2's *Unforgetable Fire*, live version is on
*Wide Awake in America*, concert appearance also on U2's "Rattle & Hum", the
movie, not CD.
IHMO, U2's performance of *Bad *at *Live Aid* is one of the most moving live
performances of ANY band I've ever seen. Bono ,Edge, Larry & Adam really had
their heart & soul in this one!
James didn't do a bad job either; there's alot of emotion in that song
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Date: Mon, 5 Aug 96 13:46:09 -0500
From: Ryan_Rafaloff@tanagraphics.com (Ryan Rafaloff)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: The new album/DT inst.
Message-ID: <170021.ensmtp@tanagraphics.com>
There has been (was) a lot of talk about the song lists on the new album,
BUT.....
does anyone know what the title of the new album will be? Just a question
I've been asking for a long time.
Also,
Instumental DT? I relly think it's just a matter of personal taste. The
general maintstream fans of radio (who tend not to appreciate a band for their
technical tallents), would not go for it.
Me? Ohhh my would I love it. InstruMENTAL I & II are great..
Maybe in years to come, the band could do an instumental album with new and
old stuff. I don't know, probably not.
Rock On,
-Raf "dun nun nuh, dun nun nuh, dun nun nuh, dun nun nuh, dun nun nuh,
dun nun nuh, dun nun nuh,
du du dum, du du dum, du du dum, du du dum..." - Ytsejam
:)
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Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 13:53:15 -0500 From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: intellugence Message-ID: <3206431B.6800@dreamt.org>
hm.... they've said listening to classical music can make your smarter temporarily... just thinking, with all the charactaristics of DT do you think their music could possibly have the same effect? who knows =) ~Rip
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Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 13:59:55 -0500 From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org> To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: moo, not I Message-ID: <320644AB.3C34@dreamt.org>
>Ahhhhh...... Moo You!!!
mojo, dont make me sneak into your survailance office in the mall and fill your post with "BOW TO COWS!" messages again! i'll do it too! moouahahahaha!
hey, did someone repost a whole jam last time?? or was it just deja vu?
anyways, on a more serious note (f sharp) yeah i think it'd be very cool to see DT go instruMENTAL if labrie ever left. but if they wrote lyrics for everyone to invent melodies and such for imagine when the crowd tried to sing along at the concerts!
time to dig out Wayne's World =)
~Rip
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Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 19:24:36 +0000 From: Jon Parmet <jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Holy Mother of Spam Message-ID: <32064A74.167E@mailstorm.dot.gov>
> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:27:32 GMT > From: rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry) > Re: Wah!
> There are a few people who can use it properly (JP, Alex > Lifeson, Frank Marino, Steve Vai)
I always liked the way Jeff Beck used it too. (I believe the song I'm thinking of is Cause We've Ended as Lovers).
> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 1996 15:41:55 -0400 > From: jestok@interlog.com (Mike Estok) > Subject: The YtseSpam??
> There is a time to analyze music and there is a time to relax. > IMO, school is the place to analyze.
Damn! I thought something was bass-ackwards when I was in college relaxing :)
> Date: Sun, 4 Aug 1996 18:48:39 PST > From: j_m_b@juno.com (Jason Bell) > Subject: Re: No vocals...
> I guess I'll have to give my opinion on the subject of a new vocalist > to actually become a member of the "Jam" family... . . . > Does any one know if any of the members of Dream Theater read these > postings???
Yeah, James LaBrie :) And he's got a few words for you :):)
Regards,
*------------*------------------------*--------------* | Jon Parmet | jonp@mailstorm.dot.gov | 617-494-2851 | *------------*------------------------*--------------*
Murphy's Law #90125:
"A $300.00 picture tube will protect a $.10 fuse by blowing first."
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Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 15:44:43 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: The FAQ Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9608051503.B28276-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
Hey, gang. Just thought I'd let you all know that a text-only version of the faq is now available. It's at http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.txt. If you need a copy and can't get to a browser, mail me and I'll send you one. The txt file should also be available soon by e-mail from ytsejam-request; I just have to set it up with Skadz. The html file is still in the same place, and should be available for mirror on Lifting Shadows and some other places as well.
If you want to mirror the faq, let me know by e-mail. -Chris
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Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 15:11:47 +0000 From: "Chris Ptacek" <someone@enteract.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Ytsejam Problems? Message-ID: <199608052011.PAA03298@enteract.com>
Okay,
When I got my subscription switched from AOL (Yuk) to EnterAct (#1, baby) I got a letter explaining how to unsubscribe, and explaining what is a legal topic and what is not. Since all conversations, flaming or not, have been in some way related to music and most of those have been prog related, I don't see the problem. If it's that much of a hassle for you to skim the Jam, maybe you don't really belong on the mailing list. I don't mean that as in you aren't a Jammer, I mean rather that the Jam has been this way for at least a year... and most of us are fine with it. If Dream Theater isn't doing anything, why should the Jam suddenly shut down? Maybe that's more extreme than you meant. I apologize. But this list is here for discussion. Topics change. If anything really important is going on, most people put it in the title of their post... you can scan just those. I just don't see any problem with the way the jam has been going (Outside of the flames, which we are all trying to hold back on these days). Majority rules... if most of us want to just relax and talk, that's the way it will be. If the majority take issue with the way the jam has been running, why not write whoever runs the jam?
Does anyone else get amused when people post to the jam saying "Get me off this list NOW" Like we who read that are going to call up ax.com and say "Hurry! Bob is not happy! Get him off this computer run mailing list which he himself subscribed to!"
Just a pondering...
Chris Ptacek (312) 248-8511 EnterAct, L.L.C. Check www.cnet.com someone@enteract.com for *YOUR* ISP Ratings! -------------------------------------------------------- "I was so happy with the service, I decided to ask for a JOB!" - Me
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Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 16:32:22 -0400 From: Ytse-Kain <kain@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Ytsejam Problems? Message-ID: <32065A56.7C79@caribe.net>
Chris Ptacek wrote: > > Does anyone else get amused when people post to the jam saying > "Get me off this list NOW" Like we who read that are going to call > up ax.com and say "Hurry! Bob is not happy! Get him off this > computer run mailing list which he himself subscribed to!" > > Just a pondering... >
couldn't have said it better Chris. BTW, anybody know if Kev has an instructional tape or anything like it out there? -- /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ | "Best way to love anything, is keeping in mind you might lose it." | | "Spread before me is my soul, I'm learning to live." Dream Theater | | | | Visit the official page of the world's best band, Dream Theater at | | http://www.rsabbs.com/dt | \---------------------------------------------------------------------/
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Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 21:03:12 GMT From: KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Doug's Bass Sound Message-ID: <199608052103.VAA09982@pipe14.h1.usa.pipeline.com>
Mr. Jens wrote: >>yes, but what we really want to know is if Dougs sound was any better the
>>2nd nite? i too was at the DC show (barely) and his sound was absolutely >>CRAP. im pretty sure it was the Bayou's sound rig; they buried him in >>bass so when hed slide up to play higher, the sound was almost >>non-existant. argh. can you tell im a bassist? >>other than that, the show rokd. Over My Head was really kool and the band
>>seemed really appreciative of the crowd. now if only those drunk girls >>would have stopped grabbing my ass... >>-john 12 days til Tori >>j o h n s a v e u r @ c a i s . c o m Well, I know Doug was complaining to the sound guy night 2 and sometimes it was hard to hear him, but I was so close to him I could hear his strings popping. Night one I was center stage front row, and night two I was right in front of him. I was on top of his monitor so I could hear him well. Wally's sound (Stage right, like Doug) was much better night two. As for the chick, what did she look like? There was a girl who pushed up front in DC who was drunk and rubbing on everyone. My wife was about to put up the dukes when she "rested" herself on me. I wonder if it's the same one... -- Kevin (kwmadden@usa.pipeline.com) GO PACKERS...GO WINGS!!!
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Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 14:50:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "'THE HAND...' R. Ananda" <spod@u.washington.edu> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: ohmigod Message-ID: <Pine.PTX.3.92a.960804161306.3169A-100000@carson.u.washington.edu>
Two things, one has DTC the other....
1) I went to Lollapalooza at the Gorge. Devo was the mystery band and they played in their yellow suits and pointy hats. They were really odd. I'd never seen them live. The first song they did was "Whip It." I thought Primus was weird in concert but these guys are FUCKED UP. Check em out if you have the chance.
I got hit in the head by Chris Cornell. Not literally, but he kicked a water bottle that had been thrown on stage and it FLEW! I was pretty far back and the fucker nailed me in the head. Metallica was amazing. Great showmen and they played a lot of their older stuff. A LOT.
2) Now this is what shocked the shit out of me the other day. It'll take a while to relate so bear with me. I went to a bar the other night to shoot some pool and I was wearing my Dream Theater shirt. I meet my two friends and one notices the shirt and says: "Dream Theater? My roommate last year either knew those guys really well or was in the band at some point." Needless to say I freaked out. I mentioned all the band members, past and present, and everyone that I knew of who auditioned for the vocalist spot. No luck. He couldn't even remember his old roommate's name. I vaguely remembered the guy as I had met him once. But I was drunk at the time and couldn't quite put my finger on the guy's name. Then all of a sudden I remembered: Rich! His name was Rich! Then my friend says: "Oh yeah! Rich Kern! He lived in Long Island before he moved up here."
The name Rich Kern meant nothing to me. So I forgot about it. Yesterday, I was thumbing through the new FAQ (thanks D-man) when I read the question involving how the Wanted: Dead or Alive cover came to be. It says that Kevin Moore and one RICH KERN got a hold of John Petrucci's tape and fucked with it. SO, it turns out that I have this guy recorded on my Subconscious CD. I wish I was sober and wearing my DT shirt when I first met this guy. Ah...opportunity had passed me by.
The clincher of this little tale (sorry about the length) is that my current housemate runs into this guy all the time. Three times in the last month to be precise. I'm gonna take a day off and comb the city and find this guy,
That is all.
--Rahul Ananda the ubiquitous HAND
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Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 16:35:42 -0600 (MDT) From: brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken MacLeod) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Ytsejam degradation? Message-ID: <9608052235.AA103212@lamar.ColoState.EDU>
>>was no DT info, people just didn't post, and I personally liked it much >>better >>that way. > >then join the damn moderated list!
The moderated list isn't mailing apparently. I've signed up for it, and have yet to recieve one. Any more bright ideas, Mr. Angry?
Slainte, Bracken
******************************************************************* * Shall I use the fire God gave me to burn incense all day long? * * No thank you! * * Jose' Ferrer * * Cyrrano De Bergerac * *******************************************************************
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Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 17:34:36 -0600 (MDT) From: vestal@usa.net (DUSTY VESTAL) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Is Rush Tribute Album still on schedule??? Message-ID: <199608052334.RAA09051@mail.usa.net>
I was wondering if any jammers out there know if the Rush Tribute album will be for sure released tomorrow... I called up all the record stores here in Colorado Springs and either they have no idea what I'm talking about, or they have it listed as a new release, but have no idea when it's going to come in??... Just wondering if someone might know if it will even be worth it for me to run out to the stores and try to find it tomorrow.... Take Care and Thanx in advance.....DUSTY
|__________________________________________________________| |"Likely or not, it's a dream that we keep and at odds with| | our senses we'll climb. But if faith is the answer, we've| | already reached it, and if spirit's a sign, then it's | | only a matter of time" ---- DREAM THEATER | | | | ( : | |__________________________________________________________|
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Date: Mon, 05 Aug 1996 20:28:48 -0400 From: Ytse-Kain <kain@caribe.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Ytsejam degradation? Message-ID: <320691C0.2288@caribe.net>
> The moderated list isn't mailing apparently. I've signed up for it, and > have yet to recieve one. Any more bright ideas, Mr. Angry?
well, UNSUBSCRIBE. -- /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ | "Best way to love anything, is keeping in mind you might lose it." | | "Spread before me is my soul, I'm learning to live." Dream Theater | | | | Visit the official page of the world's best band, Dream Theater at | | http://www.rsabbs.com/dt | \---------------------------------------------------------------------/
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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 00:59:47 GMT From: KWMadden@usa.pipeline.com (Kevin Madden) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Thinking and Wondering (NDTC) Message-ID: <199608060059.AAA17587@pipe12.h1.usa.pipeline.com>
Hello again. I was wondering (and thinking, if you can believe subject headers) if anyone knew of an internet site where one could find out album sales figures? Not just top 40, etc. but, say I wanted to know how many copies of a given album have been sold. Where would I look? I am listening to Jim Matheos' "First Impressions" right now. This is a beautiful record. My opinion, but, hey, what else is there? -- Kevin (kwmadden@usa.pipeline.com) GO PACKERS...GO WINGS!!!
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Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 21:47:31 -0400 (EDT) From: gsrockr@en.com (George Sumschidt) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: cd's 4 sale Message-ID: <199608060147.VAA22258@en.com>
Tunes for the Neon have gotten VERY expensive. Now I have to cut my losses and sell a few cd's. Damn... E-mail me privately if interested. Savatage: DWD and Streets. (I can't let Edge go. It means just a little too much <sniff>) $7.00 U.S. each. FW: Inside Out and Parallels. $7.00 U.S. each.
I hate to sell these, but they have to go. If you are looking for something else I might have, ask me privately. Thanks. **************************************************************
Who I am: George H. Sumschidt IRC nick: YtseNeon or TheRock E-mail: gsrockr@en.com Quote1: Never drive faster than your guardian angel can fly!!! Quote2: If you see me driving sideways........wave.
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Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 22:30:20 -0500 From: Richard Warren <rwarren@memphisonline.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: New Queen Album Message-ID: <199608060330.WAA13509@ford.socomm.net>
Has anyone heard about a new Queen album in August?
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Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 01:19:37 -0400 From: "The F.B.I." <bwherry@acs.bu.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Rush Tribute!!! Message-ID: <3206D5E9.267E@acs.bu.edu>
"Working Man" is the best CD purchase I've made in quite a while. I realized this after the first five songs. But there are thirteen. Life is good. All of you go out and buy it -- Mike Portnoy alone will kick your ass into oblivion. Enjoy.
Brian --
Brian Wherry Boston University Computer Engineering '98 bwherry@acs.bu.edu http://acs.bu.edu:8001/~bwherry/home.html
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Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 01:58:25 -0500 From: David Alderman <alde0004@gold.tc.umn.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: cool song Message-ID: <3206ED11.4E5@gold.tc.umn.edu>
I just watched Star Wars for the umpteenth time and I realized that Dream Theater could do a really neat version of the cantina song. Geez they could probably do any song off of that soundtrack and it would be cool. Darth Vader's theme would be so cool. Oh well, let me dream...
David
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Date: Tue, 6 Aug 1996 12:07:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Steve Morse Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960806120513.19590C-100000@bdmserver>
For anyone who doesn't know, Steve Morse who once was in the Dixie Dregs (an infuence of DT) is now in Deep Purple and is on their latest album Pupendicular. This cd is excellent and I highly recommend it!
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Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 11:56:30 -0700 From: Mike Backof <mbacko1@umbc.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Instrumental versions of your favorite bands Message-ID: <3207955E.4D60@umbc.edu>
re: Rick mentioned something about the lyrics being very important to the likability of a band...
I have to disagree, some bands strive on instrumental ability, IMO it is what makes them great. I would rather see Rush forgo Geddy's vocals on an album and rely on the killer bass/percussion drive that defines the band. I think Neil needs an album off lyrically, personally I thought that the lyrics on Counterparts were way below his work on Presto and Power Windows (two of my favorite Rush lyrical albums).
Some bands are defined in my mind by their instrumental ability:
King Crimson: The opening bars of Schizoid Man and THRAK Boud Deun: The main theme of Boud Deun (the song) which they use in improvisation Miriodor: Instrumental theme from Funambule (Tightrope Walker)-Circus sound Ozric Tentacles: Guitar riff from Kick Muck and the part where the bass groove kicks in. Eric Johnson: Cliffs of Dover - a radio hit even the non-attentive listener can hum. All instrumental.
Later,
Mike
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