YTSEJAM Digest 1747
Today's Topics:
1) DT DEMO CD'S IN STOCK READY TO SHIP *NOW*!
by Tim <axe@usa.nai.net>
2) Men At Work... er, Working Man.
by Scotch <anthem@virginia.edu>
3) Stupid Dirty Joke (ndtc)
by Scotch <anthem@virginia.edu>
4) Magellan and Aqualung
by ichhi@matrix.mdn.com (Patrick Taylor)
5) Re: Syrinx's here. Woop-De-Doo!
by brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken MacLeod)
6) Rush tribute
by zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
7) problems
by Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
8) Rush Tribute
by W_RICK_PIERPONT@BDHQ.BD.COM
9) [Fwd: Re: Kissarmy is over]
by Scott Cook <skooc@earthlink.net>
10) Onthe limo/ kevin
by kurt@fgallery.com
11) Interesting Idea...?
by Dale Gantz <dgantz@nacs.org>
12) JAimz Leavin
by kurt@fgallery.com
13) Rush/Tull tribute
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
14) I'd say MIke Bahr's got a fan
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
15) Angra
by Eduardo.Oliveira@mail.sky.com.br
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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 22:42:16 -0400
From: Tim <axe@usa.nai.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: DT DEMO CD'S IN STOCK READY TO SHIP *NOW*!
Message-ID: <199608080242.WAA07161@usa.nai.net>
To Everyone who has ordered the new "NO SLEEP TILL BROOKLYN / INSTRUMENTAL 3"
and other cd's, the first half were shipped on Wednesday, and the rest are
being shipped on Friday and Saturday. Please DO post reviews of what you
think about the discs!!
Also, I now have the following CD's in the following amounts IN STOCK
and ready to ship IMMEDIATELY UPON ORDER!!:
DT: NO SLEEP SINCE BROOKLYN / INSTRUMENTAL III. $23.99 [20 LEFT]
DT: as MAJESTY: The Official 1986 Demo. $21.99 [5 LEFT]
DT: INSTRUMENTAL: The 1987 Recordings! $21.99 [4 LEFT]
RISING POWER: POWER TO THE PEOPLE $12.99 [2 LEFT]
PLEASE VISIT : http://w3.nai.net/~axe for COMPLETE Set-Lists and Info!
For ORDERING info, please send me email (to axe@nai.net) with the subject
"send CD Info"...
Thanks!!!
Tim
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"The Faithful live AWAKE, The Rest remain Misled." - Dream Theater
"Innocence Faded".
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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 23:42:16 -0400
From: Scotch <anthem@virginia.edu>
To: The National Midnight Star <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Men At Work... er, Working Man.
Message-ID: <v01540b01ae2ec059e3e1@5.liv1.arl.why.net>
Well, after calls to about 10 record stores in the DFW area (and about 10
salespeople saying "Uh, sure don't"), I finally found a place that had
Working Man. So I'd like to thank the Jammer who, the other day, said that
he found it at Borders Bookstore, because otherwise I would never have
called them.
They held a copy for me at the desk and I drove for an hour into freakin'
Fort Worth to get it. My brother wanted to buy it too, but they'd sold the
other copy that day. (Yes, The Other Copy... only 2 were ordered. Sad,
huh?) I guess it was somewhat appropriate that I had to drive both ways
through RUSH hour traffic.
It is an awesome album. Poor Lerxt gets his ass kicked on every song.
Although I think I blinked and missed Petrucci's solo. Did he phone that
thing in?
(Heh, the name of the next Rush instrumental: "Phone That Thing In".)
I really dig how they throw little sly winks of other Rush tunes into some
of the songs... I won't spoil it for you folks who don't have it yet.
You people are right. Devin Townsend is one big mistake. Somebody go step
on his nads for me.
Maybe it's the latent psychosis acting up again, but in Red Barchetta, I
keep hearing James (who is even more The Man than ever) sing "I strip away
the old Labrie..."
I'm not used to hearing Portnoy's cymbals mixed that loudly. He does so
much cymbalwork, it really takes over the songs. Nothing wrong with that,
though. And I dig his trademark "Can You Guess The Time Signature: 4/4
Over 6/8 Or Vice Versa?" trick that he chucks in there.
Sheehan is also The Man. That "Trees" intro... I think he's the 6-Fingered Man.
Who is James Murphy? He kicks ass on every tune!
Mike Portnoy is credited as "Creative Consultant". Anyone know why?
FW's Closer To The Heart sounds almost identical to the Rush version, and
Bob van der Loo or whatever his damn name is sounds almost exactly like
Geddy on Freewill. But I guess those are no small feats. (And you know
what they say about guys with small feets)
So in all, I was wondering if all the Tribute tunes would be better than
the Rush originals. Guitar-wise, yes, all of them are better. They're
heavier, mixed better, played more tightly, and the solos rip Alex a new
orifice.
Bass-wise, only Sheehan & Hamm (the famous law firm) really kick. Oh, and
the guy from Cynic too. They all do a little more showboating than Geddy
does, but then, Geddy has to worry about singing. I'd say it's about even,
maybe tilted a little in favor of the young'uns.
Drum-wise... only Neil can be Neil. Portnoy is the best drummer on the
album, and the only one I'd say that outdoes Peart's versions. I mean,
Portnoy plays Peart's La Villa solo note-for-note, and one of the drum
breaks in By-Tor strongly hints at Peart's live YYZ solo. Although, to be
fair, Peart these days could probably make short work of Portnoy in a Drum
Duel-- which, if they ever tour together, might just happen... and make the
shit FLY out of everyone's asses.
So in all, the Tribute absolutely kicks ass. But the originals still stand
on their own. If you can find Working Man, buy it. If you can't find it,
get someone to order it at every place you call.
All from me.
Scott.
Catch The Spit
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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 23:51:14 -0400
From: Scotch <anthem@virginia.edu>
To: The Terrordome <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Stupid Dirty Joke (ndtc)
Message-ID: <v01540b04ae2ecf356168@22.liv3.arl.why.net>
> I haven't listened to it yet (TheJob) but, judging by the glowing
>reviews, it's
> probably worth the money.
>
> Rahul Ananda -- the ubiquitous HAND
Hand Job?
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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 23:37:00 -0500 (GMT-0500)
From: ichhi@matrix.mdn.com (Patrick Taylor)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Magellan and Aqualung
Message-ID: <199608080437.XAA18295@decker.mdn.com>
Thought I'd give those who don't know a brief description of Magellan
(there's even some DT content).
They'rrrrrr Grrrreat!
Magellan the band is comprised of two brothers, Trent and Wayne Gardner.
Trent does most all of the writing and plays all keys. Wayne plays
guitars. They are augmented sometimes by a bassist and sometimes by a real
drummer. (That's right, they use a drum machine. Don't hold it against
them. How many Pearts and Portnoys do you think there are in the world?)
As far as I know, Magellan is a studio-prog band only, probably will never
tour. I think Trent is a policeman somewhere in California.
Magellan has 2 albums out: Hour of Restoration (still available as a very
hard to find import) and Impending Ascension. Both are on the Magna Carta
label.
Hour of Restoration is a good first album, highlighted by a fabulous first
track which is about the history of the Magna Carta document. Fascinating
subject matter!
Impending Ascension is much better, perhaps even landmark. It includes the
epic Estadium Nationale (about the "disappearances" in Argentina in the
70s), Waterfront Wierdos (all too realistic tale of homelessness w/Jethro
Tull drummer Doane Perry), and Storms and Mutiny, a tribute to their
namesake, explorer Ferdinand Magellan. (It also clocks in around 11 mins
or so.)
They've also done tracks for 3 Magna Carta Tribute albums:
Yes: Don't Kill The Whale (waaaay better than Yes' version!)
Genesis: Mama (pretty close to the original)
Tull: Aqualung (The way I see it is this: I really like it, but at
the same time I am glad Tull did it the way they did.)
I'd describe Magellan as:
Rabin-style Yes (vocally), but with Rick Wakeman on keys.
Peart quality lyrics with a historical bent.
Best keyboarding since Wakeman.
Drum machine can be overlooked. It's not that bad.
Proggy!
Hope that helps.
Patrick Taylor
BTW, Magellan is supposed to have another album out this year, but I think
it's gone the way of the new DT album...
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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 22:41:18 -0600 (MDT)
From: brax@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Bracken MacLeod)
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Re: Syrinx's here. Woop-De-Doo!
Message-ID: <9608080441.AA39746@lamar.ColoState.EDU>
> Then King's X came on. I'm sorry, did i pay $11.50 for a concert
>or for a sermen? It was beyond horrible. It was _SO_ bad that I sold all
>6 King's X albums for $8 dollars. I'm happy i got that much. :) I'm now
>on a Kings-X-Sucks mode, so you're just gonna have to deal with it.
Did you forget that King's X is a band with a definate Christian
overtone ("Faith Hope Love," "Out of the Silent Planet [a religious sci
fi book by Christian author C.S. Lewis]" "KING'S X" for Christ's sake
[pun intended])? I wouldn't have been surprised by a sermon. (Not a
flame. Just an observation. If you didn't expect it, that's fine. But
why are you so hurt-offended-put-off-disillusioned [take your pick, I
don't know your feelings] by that?)
I haven't gotten a chance to see KX this tour, so was
there something else beyond their religious beliefs that got under your
skin? Bad tone? Was Pinnick hoarse? What? What is it about it that
suddenly made you hate albums you liked enough before to collect on CD?
>Syrinx has spoken, and so it shall be law.
Did I miss something?
Just curious,
Bracken
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* Shall I use the fire God gave me to burn incense all day long? *
* No thank you! *
* Jose' Ferrer *
* Cyrrano De Bergerac *
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 01:00:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: zebrowski steven <szebro1@gl.umbc.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rush tribute
Message-ID: <199608080500.BAA06873@umbc10.umbc.edu>
This would have fared much better if it had been "A Dream Theater Tribute to
Rush." John Petrucci is the only guitarist worth anything on this CD. All
guitarists on this CD other than him suck shit on these songs. I got really
sick of hearing the first four notes of a Lifeson guitar solo only to lead
into a mindless shred-fest. JP had the decency to play accurate Lifeson-esque
solos. Is not the beauty of Alex's playing the fact that he can shred like
anyone, but he knows when NOT to? That aspect of his playing has always been
what does it for me. It makes the times when he does shred that much more
special <ie, Cut to the Chase, The Analog Kid, The Camera Eye>. I do not like
Strangiato on this thing at all. Too much palm-muting. I couldn't believe
when I heard Steve Morse play the rhythms wrongly, either. The guitarists
and drummers ALL way overplay. Bas just sucks. Whomever taught him classical
vocal technique probably hides his/her head in shame when this man sings. Mark
Slaughter--woah. :) That was genuinely scary. Someone already said that Devin
goes way too far overboard on this song, and I agree. If he toned it down a
few notches, it would be good. Stu's performance on YYZ leaves me cold. Ged's
fills had actual contour and melody, not mindless 32nd notes. I must say I
absolutely fucking hate the production. What the hell is that?
Freewill is actually pretty good. Jack Russell did not annoy me half as much
as i expected him too, although I would have picked a different song for him.
Who is playing The Trees? They bite it big time. Eric Martin fucking RULES on
Mission. Surprise of the CD. Ray Alder, you bring a tear to my eye. Great,
emotive performance. Best track on the disc after Red Barchetta. Go James!
Wow, this was harsh. Please ignore this. I know nothing...
Steve Z
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Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 00:35:22 -0600
From: Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: problems
Message-ID: <32098AAA.214A@mo.net>
Don't worry, this isn't going to be one of the posts bitching about the
state of the jam or any given band. We ran into some SERIOUS problems
with our system here and I lost ALL of my mail (including all the
important stuff I had been keeping around for some time). If anybody
sent me anything within the past day or so, please send it again as I
probably missed it. Thanks a bunch. Have a day.
Dale R. Newberry
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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 1996 15:38:51 -0400
From: W_RICK_PIERPONT@BDHQ.BD.COM
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Rush Tribute
Message-ID: <9607078394.AA839475248@BDHQ.BD.COM>
The Rush Tribute CD really jams! Attention all Baltimore area
jammers!!!!! Go to Record and Tape Traders. Of course, they had it
($14.99) (4 copies until I got there -- And Then There Were Three :)).
The Towson store also had "Live At THe Marquee" UK ($20) and Japan
($32) release (Japan's has Another Day instead of Surrounded). They
also had The Silent Man CD single with Eve for $9.99. Anyhow, I'm in
the process of listening to it right now. About Natural Science, I
haven't had such a good laugh in a while! Musically, it was
excellent. Vocally, however, wow that guy really takes artistic
freedom to the limits. What the hell were all those howls and
growls?? Every once in awhile, he would actually sound like he knew
what he was doing then, I'm speechless... Was good for a laugh
though. Gotta go now, see y'all later.
Rick Pierpont
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Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 00:55:58 -0700
From: Scott Cook <skooc@earthlink.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: [Fwd: Re: Kissarmy is over]
Message-ID: <32099D8E.B34@earthlink.net>
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Hi Jammers!
I know this isn't the KISS list, but I want everybody to see this! This is a
post to Kissarmy by the list owner:
>That's it. I've had it. I've asked you guys time and time again to
>be nice.
>Enjoy it today because it all ends tomarrow.
Anyone who wants it can have it.
>Chris Desing
>Kissarmy Mailing List Owner
The reason I'm posting this is because if SOME people don't quit whining to
Skadz about how bad the jam is and 'Blah, Blah, Blah...' then we might see
one of these posts on the ytsejam. We've already had one list owner give it
up, next time we may not be so lucky as to find someone to run the jam. I for
one love the ytsejam and would just hae to see it come to an end.
Peace!
Scott Cook
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In a message dated 96-08-08 00:47:58 EDT, you write:
<< Once upon a time, tsmith@3rdplanet.com, wrote these famous words in
Re: Kissarmy is over:
>
> >That's it. I've had it. I've asked you guys time and time again to
> >be nice.
> >
> >Enjoy it today because it all ends tomarrow.
> >
> >Anyone who wants it can have it.
> >
> >
> >Chris Desing
> >Kissarmy Mailing List Owner
> >
>
If you think it's time to shut it down for good, Do it :)
I agree with you , cause I've seen many a strage post here on this
list compared to other lists I'm on.....
Go ahead and shut it down.........
>>
What's up with this? Is Chris shutting the list down tommorrow, or it is a
post from a while back that when way over my head?
Meka
Kissarmy Mailing List information - http://www.buffnet.net/~toefer
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 08:40:32 -0400
From: kurt@fgallery.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Onthe limo/ kevin
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.8.8.8.40.32.2916992174.320855@bbs.fgallery.com>
Nooope.. Kevin was talking about the video For Pull Me under.. they were
joking about the Napalm Death Shirt james is wearing in the video..cuz
TTT was a real video shoot,..PMU was some live footage mixed with some
dude dying:), he talking about how one night their manager says that
they had some deal with the company and they were gonna shoot
some footage that night so put on your best shirts,and then James says
"yeah right"..
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Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 08:43:37 -0400
From: Dale Gantz <dgantz@nacs.org>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Interesting Idea...?
Message-ID: <2.2.32.19960808124337.0068c260@mail.nacs.org>
I'm new to the list so I don't know if this has ever been suggested before,
but I'll suggest it now...
Is there anyone out there who would see a twin bill of DT and Savatage? I'm
just wondering.
Thanks
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 08:51:56 -0400
From: kurt@fgallery.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: JAimz Leavin
Message-ID: <TCPSMTP.16.8.8.8.51.56.2916992174.320856@bbs.fgallery.com>
Well ..i agree also that Geoff would do a cool job.. but i think that if
that would ever happen (labrie leaving) they would choose an equally
trained,gifted unknown singer..
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 09:14:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: Rush/Tull tribute
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960808090736.27148B-100000@bdmserver>
Merlo wrote:
>I have it and it's good. I forget what it sounds like now, since I've
>been listening to the Rush tribute for the past 24 hours <g>, but
>there's some real quality stuff on it. Derek plays on two really good
>tracks, and there are a slew of other high points - Echolyn/Still does
>total justice to "One Brown Mouse" - my favorite track on the disc.
>Just avoid Magellan's "Aqualung" - I used to like that song. :)
>
>Anyone have any info on Magellan, by the way? I had heard good things
>about them, and then heard them butcher "Aqualung," and now I'm not too
>sure I want their album.
Actually I lke Magellan's version of Aqualung. It's their interpretation
anyway. But everyone is entitled to their opinions...
Magellan is a pretty good band. They've got 2 albums: Hour of Restoration
and Impending Ascension. HOR is probably no longer available. Both are
pretty good albums. I would say if you like the magna carta label you
will like Magellan. They've got a lot of keys but less then Cairo does.
Speaking of Sebastian Bach on the Rush Tribute, Skid Row does a Rush song
whose title I can't remember on their tribute EP Bsides themselves. Also
on this are Priest and Kiss tunes plus 2 others.
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| Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com |
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| "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater |
| "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files |
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|The Baltimore Orioles-The team to beat in 1996!!!!!!! | Go DC United! |
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 10:05:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: I'd say MIke Bahr's got a fan
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960808100105.18544A-100000@galaxian.rs.itd.umich.edu>
the following is not mine, but rather a rush parody posted to the NMS
(rush list, for those that don't know).....no apology for ndtc, this is
hilarious.....
_________________________
from : azt@umich.edu
Greetings all,
My copy of Critical Mass just arrived today and, to put it mildly, it is
FUCKING INCREDIBLE! Rather than give a review, though (e.g. "The 5th
bass twang in "Cold Fire was just so full and rounded " and all that
stuff. We know it rocks), I have chosen to thank Mr. Bahr in the best
way I know how: through a parody. So if Neil Peart is reading this, I'm
really sorry for slaughtering your song to praise the distributor of a,
um, recording of questionable legality, but it had to be done. And now,
I give you
A TRIBUTE TO MICHAEL BAHR (sung to the tune of "Nobody's Hero")
I knew this was different from a regular C.D.,
I sent in my money to a strange anomoly,
It didn't seem a threat to my credit history,
It only seemed a small price for a live piece of harmony,
After weeks went by, it arrived in a cart (*give me a break, it rhymes!*)
When I heard the first few songs, I felt excitement cross my heart...
Michael Bahr is my hero!
Taped an awesome concert,
Close to my home town,
HERO
Love the bitchin' artwork
The coolest pic around,
HERO
Could have got arrested
Got your ass kicked out,
HERO
So you broke a few laws,
Who will ever know?
C.M. is what I'm buying
>From Mike Bahr, my hero...
I didn't see the show, but my friend was there with glee,
His eardrums were shattered in a cloud of music ecstacy,
I tried to carry on, tried to kill my jealousy,
Now with CM I can be there as often as I wanna be,
After weeks went by, it arrived in a cart,
When I heard the first few songs, I felt excitement cross my heart...
Michael Bahr is my hero!
Didn't let the music
Get drowned by the howling mob,
HERO
How'd you hide your soundboard?
What a great mystery...
HERO
Love the jokes and wisecracks
And the country song ;)
HERO
Got my favorite tunes there,
Can't ask for that much more,
Thanks for Critical Mass,
Mike Bahr's my hero!
Peace,
Andrea
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Date: 8 Aug 1996 11:17:34 EDT
From: Eduardo.Oliveira@mail.sky.com.br
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: Angra
Message-ID: <199608081427.HAA07248@mindcrime.ax.com>
Hi!
I have just subscribed ytsejam and it is the first mail I send.
Does anyone Know Angra? It is a brazilian band.
See ya!
(Where are the brazilian jammers?)
Eduardo Oliveira.
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