YTSEJAM Digest 1751
Today's Topics:
1) king's x, the guy with the ytsejam shirt, and other offerings
by WildKoba@aol.com
2) sorry
by Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
3) cows and eggs
by RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
4) NY-area Ytseconners please read
by "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
5) James Murphy.
by cdgroves@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Chris Groves)
6) An open letter to #ytsejammers
by The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu>
7) Re: Rush and James Murphey
by Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net>
8) Bay Area Jammers!! (Es Muy Importante !)
by Scott Cook <skooc@earthlink.net>
9) German jammers / Rush Tribute / James LaBrie
by "Joerg Baesner" <baesner@ccigate.cci.de>
10) Take The Time solo
by petnrond@rad.net.id
11) JP on IOR radio show
by <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng)
12) attn: rick pierpoint (and other new jammers)
by Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu>
13) King's X recommendations
by rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry)
14) king's x/brooklin boot
by Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com>
15) Re: who's james murphy?
by dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld)
16) Peart vs. Portnoy, Lifeson vs. Petrucci, etc., etc.
by Ryan_Rafaloff@tanagraphics.com (Ryan Rafaloff)
17) Dave Weckyl among other things
by Jonathan Case <jcase@ROSSBY.METR.uoknor.edu>
18) James Murphy
by "Peter Pignatelli Jr." <74243.363@CompuServe.COM>
19) Bass Players
by Scott Holthausen <smh@ldg.com>
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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 02:28:18 -0400
From: WildKoba@aol.com
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: king's x, the guy with the ytsejam shirt, and other offerings
Message-ID: <960809022816_255612226@emout16.mail.aol.com>
just got back from the kx show in nyc. jeez. what a show.......
but i must say that i was the least bit impressed by the galactic cowboys
(except that the bassist kinda looks like steve vai). nothing really
impressed me. there was that one song ("don't you belive..." or something
like that) that had cool harmonies, but i didn't care a lot for them.
there was a guy there with a ytsejam shirt (he happened to be with a quite
attractice lady), and when i asked him who he was, he said that he didn't
post on the jam, but he borrowed the shirt from a yammer. (?!??!)
king's x was great....for a long time i could not understand for the life of
me why they were considered a "christian rock band". i think i began to
understand when everyone poured onto the stage at the end, and in the song
"over my head." i ran into doug on stage and thanked him, and he just grabbed
me and hugged me for a few seconds, which i thought was weird but way
cool.....
to rick terry (i think)......mad phat props (or mad phat tanks, how you
prefer) for the bday wishes a few days back....ffidh!!
now that i had a chance to catch up on jams, someone wondered about excellent
drumming works......here's a list of what i think would go there...
zappa, you can't do that on stage anymore, vol.2 (chester thompson), anything
featuring manu katche (late peter gabriel, new tori amos and satch, for
starters)- he's got the best sense of groove right now. king crimson with
bill bruford (someone PLKEASE agree that him and tony levin make up an insane
rhythm section. thank you). some of the more recent living colour works, and
if you get a chance go to blockbuster and rent prince's "sign o the times."
and watch prince and shiela e. (yes, prince plays drums) do some funky shit.
i mention funky cause too many drummers when they try to funk end up sounding
so white it ain't funny.
so that's a start.
well, later punks, and as always, peace out.
signed, fictitious
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david kobayashi
the wild and magical koba
"i'm using the chicken to measure it." -some freak on "uncle meat".
"for 20 long years, i could not read music. but now, thanks to 'hooked on
funk'...."- dean, screaming headless torsos.
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Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 01:47:36 -0600
From: Monty Newberry <mjnewb@mo.net>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: sorry
Message-ID: <320AED18.457E@mo.net>
>Anybody "wasn" a peanut?
Oh man, I'm sorry (to whoever it was that originally wrote this). I
probably typed this part of the message out myself to respond to, and
was just typing too fast or something. Really, it did say "want." Man,
it's late and I'm tired. I need to catch some ZZZs. G'Night.
Dale R. Newberry
"Mmm... Soylent Green." -Homer Simpson
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Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 01:52:28 -0500
From: RipZero <ripzero@dreamt.org>
To: Heavy Metal Computer Nerds <ytsejam@ax.com>
Subject: cows and eggs
Message-ID: <320AE02A.FC3@dreamt.org>
ok, heres another one to rack your brains on... how would you feel if on
one track on the next album, DT went rap? bwahahaha.
~Rip
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Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 23:43:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Paul W. Cashman" <vanyel@crl.com>
To: ytsejam@ax.com
Subject: NY-area Ytseconners please read
Message-ID: <199608090643.AA27673@crl5.crl.com>
The Jammer who was originally going to help out with traveling north
to NY with me has had to cancel, so I'm wondering if any kind souls up
there can help me out....
The most grievous loss is not having a car available to us any more.
I'm currently exploring a few avenues based on price. I can probably
afford Amtrak from here to NY (Penn Station I think), but....what
then? The con's near LaGuardia....
I'm also looking at the possibility of flying up, but I've noticed
that few discount airlines seem to fly to LaGuardia, at least not from
here.
So, what I'm looking for is someone to act as a chauffeur, or if not,
then someone to help out with directions, etc. (I'm not afraid of
taking connecting trains and subways to the vicinity of the hotel, but
I -am- afraid of taking a wrong turn and ending up in a scene from
ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK. :))
E-mail to the address below if you can help out a fellow Jammer.
Benefits include: my witty conversation, and uh....well, I'll bring
along some CDs and tapes. :)
Someone mentioned Devin T. "going over the top" on "Natural Science."
Hey, if he's between bands, he might have -wanted- to make a bit of a
splash on the tribute, like a living, breathing vocalist's resume. :)
Why aren't the guys from Cynic credited on the back cover?
-- Paul W. Cashman, vanyel@crl.com Rush Dream Theater Korn Bonedance --- www.crl.com/~vanyel ------ Metallica Hawkwind Enya Superior Mutha's Day Out Sisters of Mercy Dead Can Dance Blue Oyster Cult "You can find all you need in your mind / If you take the time.." -DT------------------------------
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 17:16:23 +1000 (EST) From: cdgroves@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Chris Groves) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: James Murphy. Message-ID: <v01530500ae31245d4d54@DialupEudora>
All those jammers interested in James Murphy's new solo album will be pleased to hear who (so I'm told) is doing the vocals on two tracks from James' solo album: the one and only Devin Townshend!! WOO-HOO!
Chris Groves. cdgroves@postoffice.sandybay.utas.edu.au
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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 03:25:01 -0400 (EDT) From: The Digital Man <cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu> To: Ytse Jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: An open letter to #ytsejammers Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9608090340.H27826-0100000@griffin.emba.uvm.edu>
If you're not a regular on the IRC channel #ytsejam, you can skip this message.
Folks, we have a problem.
There's been a lot of bickering and infighting recently, and it has to stop. Recently, a few people have decided that #ytsejam is a forum for scripts and bots and abuses of power, rather than for talking about music. I'm getting a feeling that the owner of the server is getting tired of it. You all read about the maintainer of the Kissarmy. I don't know, but things might be headed down that road.
One of the coolest things about our channel to me was that everyone was granted operator status, that we were all equals. Lately, though, people have been abusing these privileges. Also, a great deal of ignorance and hatred has cropped up, for which there simply is no place.
Let's keep our channel a place to chat, not a place to play with IRC tools, flood the channel with useless script information, tell each other that our favorite music "sucks", kick and ban each other, or any of the other childish nonsense. You all know what I mean. It's gotten to the point that I don't want to log on till well after midnight, when I hope things have died down. Let's be civil to each other, and have a good time.
Until next time, D-Man
------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Digital Man \|/ ____ \|/ Secretary cmerlo@cs.uvm.edu "@'/ ,. \`@" UVM Comp Sci Student Assn d-man@dreamt.org /_| \__/ |_\ "He won't need a bed http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo \__U_/ He's a digital man" - Peart ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maintainer of the Official Dream Theater Frequently Asked Questions List http://www.emba.uvm.edu/~cmerlo/dtfaq.html
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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 00:27:22 PST From: Mark Smeets <msmeets@ibm.net> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: Rush and James Murphey Message-ID: <199608090727.HAA72927@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net>
** Reply to note from ytsejam@ax.com 08/08/96 10:43am -0700
Canadian Jammers:
Luckily, I might live in BC but I was born back east in TO :) hehe, I guess that means I kick the US jammers twice cause BC rulz over back east :)
About the Rush Tribute:
Whats the QR and FW tracks like?
James Murphy, incredible guitarist, he was the replacement for Alex Skolnic of Testament (now that HAS to tell you how good he is), he's impressive, LOW is a great cd as well, extremely heavy. Guitarists should check it out. Bassists should check out the bass solo on LOW, fuck, I'd love to see Myung attempt that :)
About the DT and Savatage double Bill:
How many times have I said that so far? Are you people ignorning me? :) Come on irc and I'll give you something to ignore :) hhe j/k QR FW DT and Savatage, quadrouple bill for ya :) Hey, one can dream and have it come true but fantasizing is better.
24-7 Spyz
They're great, been around for ages, Guitarist is really good. They got some cool songs :)
Mark Stranger on IRC #YtseBen is a cow
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\| "To each his own and his own be damned" msmeets@ibm.net or msmeets@smartt.com http://www.smartt.com/~jsmeets/stranger/stranger.htm
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Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 00:24:14 -0700 From: Scott Cook <skooc@earthlink.net> To: Rush Tribute Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Bay Area Jammers!! (Es Muy Importante !) Message-ID: <320AE79E.6DCA@earthlink.net>
Hola amigos y amigas,
The king of NDTC again :)
I just returned from a gig at The Edge in Palo Alto, CA where a 80's new wave band called Berlin (anyone remember them?) played tonight. GREAT SHOW!!!!
Whilst I was there, I saw a sign for (drum roll, please!)
KING'S X!
Yes, that's right, King's X will be delivering a sermon on Sept. 13. There was no opening act listed, but let's all pray really hard that it's the Galactic Cowboys. Tickets are either $12 or $13 (my memory fails me) and are available at The Edge or through BassTARD tickets.
As Freddie Mercury once said :And there you have it."
till next time.
Grinder
*****************************************************************************"Wherever you go, there you are." - Mike Brady *****************************************************************************
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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 11:18:40 MEZ From: "Joerg Baesner" <baesner@ccigate.cci.de> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: German jammers / Rush Tribute / James LaBrie Message-ID: <18FA271E88@lucky.cci.de>
Hi There!
Are there any else German jammers out there. I'm new in this mailing list an want to know if the RUSH TRIBUTE is available in Germany yet. What's about the Replacement of JAMES LABRIE?
Bye Joerg
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Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 19:18:50 cdt From: petnrond@rad.net.id To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Take The Time solo Message-ID: <320BD56E-00000001@petnrond.rad.net.id>
I have Take The Time solo in my homepage. U can download it at music section. Maybe U can use that when U close your window, or U can reverse it (with wave studio), that sounds funny. Or for other purpose. I hope that might be useful !!
* / \ | | | | | | | | | | | | ___ | | ___ |___ 0 ___| | | | | === The Shinobu RONALD SIDHARTA - You Gonna Find All Your Need In Your Mind, if U TAKE THE TIME (Dream Theater) Petnrond@rad.net.id Shinobu@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/6654
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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 96 8:01:24 EDT From: <CNG@tcco.com> (Chung Ng) To: <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: JP on IOR radio show Message-ID: <vines.3hH8+9Tm0mA@tcx.tcco.com>
I just saw an ad in Guitar magazine for "IOR - Instrumentals of Rock". It's supposedly a radio show dedicated to instrumental guitarists. They had a poll and Joe Satriani, Carlos Santana and Eric Johnson were the top vote-getters.
Anyway, it lists under future shows - John Petrucci discussing "A Change of Seasons". Does anyone get this show? I'm going to call them up to see which cities get it and will post them if anyone is interested.
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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 08:36:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Partha Mukhopadhyay <ahtrap@umich.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: attn: rick pierpoint (and other new jammers) Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960809082517.9964A-100000@choplifter.rs.itd.umich.edu>
> Also, another reason I didn't like WDADU at first (I love it now) was > because of Charlie Dominici's voice. JLB has so more strength, balls, > and range. LaTM really shows how much better WDADU would've been with > JLB and JP's new sound. > See ya, > Rick Pierpont
hey Rick, et al, about the above, have you ever heard of WDATU? the last post i did was someone else's parody praising a dude named Mike Bahr, and if you don't know who I'm talking about, you'd better check out the following page, assuming you have net access..... http://www.columbia.edu/~jc309/archives/ginfo/mikebahr.txt
(Hi Mike)
About the working man tribute: who sez you can find it anywhere? lemme go through sir Ptacek's list of stores.... Tower (check) Discount (Check) Borders (Check) Coconut(What the hell is that?) Best Buy(check) Musicland(check)...... The best I got was, "we might have some saturday" ohwell partha
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Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 12:47:52 GMT From: rterry@inforamp.net (Rick Terry) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: King's X recommendations Message-ID: <320b2f2d.305328@mail.inforamp.net>
Good morning!
>Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 21:31:21 -0400 >From: ai292@freenet.carleton.ca (Gordon McFee)
> Could you elaborate? As someone who's thought about getting some >of their stuff I was wondering what you meant about a "sermon".
Many of KX's tracks have spiritual themes to them. Some have references to God, but you won't find a gospel record here. This is good driving hard rock with a melodic, blues/gospel influence, strong vocals and a guitar sound that just won't quit. The vocal harmonies remind me a little of Boston at times. I know you are a big Rush fan, as am I. The music has great appeal to me and you might also enjoy it. I would suggest starting with Gretchen Goes to Nebraska. Alternates would be Out of the Silent Planet and Faith, Hope, Love. The self-titles record is also very good. Hope this is helpful.
Cheers,
Rick Toronto
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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 08:54:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Pat Daugherty <pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com> To: Dream Theater Mailing List <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: king's x/brooklin boot Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960809084844.15687B-100000@bdmserver>
I don't get how that one guy can have bought all 6 King's X cds then go to a show and then totally hate the band. There is something wrong there. That is like if DT played at a crappy club and the sound sytem sucked big time and it turns out to have not been a good time. Would you hate the band?
Not I.
I got the Brooklyn boot from Tim Lodge. I haven't had time to listen to much. I've listend to some of the live Chris Collins concert. It is not bad quality but there is at least one dropout that I heard. My main gripe was the cd case was all messed up. One of the hinges was broken and the little circle that holds the cd in was broken so when I opened the cd case the cd fell out...
The cd times out at about 47 minutes.
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Pat Daugherty pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com | |=======================================================================| | "Every breath leaves me one less to my last" --Dream Theater | | "That is not an option, Mr. Mulder" --X-Files | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Hail to the Redskins, Hail Victory!!!!!!!! 1-0 (preseason) | |-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 09:13:08 -0400 From: dantemm@erinet.com (Dan Temmesfeld) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Re: who's james murphy? Message-ID: <v01520d00ae30a2a1e878@[199.171.22.43]>
didn't he also play on Testament's "Low" album...
Dan
---+ Dan Temmesfeld --- email: dantemm@erinet.com http://www.cedarville.edu/student/s1133627/gcowboys.htm "Home of the Unofficial GALACTIC COWBOYS Page" ---+
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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 96 09:15:02 -0500 From: Ryan_Rafaloff@tanagraphics.com (Ryan Rafaloff) To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Peart vs. Portnoy, Lifeson vs. Petrucci, etc., etc. Message-ID: <173486.ensmtp@tanagraphics.com>
Hey All,
Try this one on for size.
Peart vs. Portnoy,
Lifeson vs. Petrucci,
Geddy vs. Bach. --->LaBrie wins that one. Man does he sound good on the Tribute!!! By-Tor..........SNOW DOG!!!!
Anyone know why Derek didn't play on the disk?
Rock On,
-Raf "Everytime I close the door, someone put in metaphors. Life was so much cleaner On The Page" - Kevin Moore
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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 1996 09:05:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Jonathan Case <jcase@ROSSBY.METR.uoknor.edu> To: ytsejam@ax.com Cc: Multiple recipients of list <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: Dave Weckyl among other things Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.90.960809085240.9090A-100000@rossby>
Hey everyone,
We certainly do get a hell of a lot of mail on this list, but I like the grouping of many e-mails together, making things more compact, not getting out of hand! Anyhow, (sorry about no personal responses), but to the person replying about Dave Weckyl: Yes, it's spelled WECKYL, and he is an awesome newer style jazz artist. I played, or at least attempted to play to many of his songs while taking lessons in high school. He has lots of organ riffs, soprano sax, and electric guitar. I think his best release is the MASTER PLAN, which has the "deuling drummers" each in his own speaker! That's Dave on one side and the famous Steve Gadd in the other. The title track which has this drumming (and also Chick Corea on piano) is a great latin tune, for those of you who like modern latin music. Of course, I like heavy stuff, too, like Rush, Queensryche, Savatage (just got the CD though, so haven't heard it much yet), extreme, etc. Nobody comments on EXTREME. I mean, the stuff that doesn't get radio play is awesome, especially on pornagraffiti. Their newest release is rather dissappointing, except that they obtained a new good double bass drummer! I think though that Nuno is right up there with Petrucci on guitars. Anyone interested check out the instrumental track on extreme's newest release - incredible guitar piece. (crap - can't remember title - midnight something?) How about the STEVE MORSE BAND'S newest release. I think Morse gets better as he gets older, unlike RUSH. Will RUSH ever do odd times again in any of their songs, like their older stuff? Also, speaking of RUSH, how can I get this tribute CD that I see mixed reactions about? One more question: Is it worth getting the silent man single release for the song "EVE"?
Jon
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Date: 09 Aug 96 10:18:20 EDT From: "Peter Pignatelli Jr." <74243.363@CompuServe.COM> To: ytse jam <ytsejam@ax.com> Subject: James Murphy Message-ID: <960809141819_74243.363_BHR56-1@CompuServe.COM>
James Murphy was also on CANCER-Death Shall Rise He was kicked out of many of his death metal bands because he was "to melodic" and because he didn't use his "whammy bar enough". Its a strange world!!
Chris Pignatelli Clockwork
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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 96 14:16:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Holthausen <smh@ldg.com> To: ytsejam@ax.com Subject: Bass Players Message-ID: <199608091424.HAA22559@mindcrime.ax.com>
> I mean....GOD!!!!! ....The Sheehan stuff is more interesting that the >originals!!!! >(Not surprising....Billy can play circles around anyone....(including Lee, >Hamm, and Myung)) >
For some real bass playing check out Michael Manring's "THONK". A real eye opener.
-smh
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